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Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:39pm On Jun 17, 2015
truthislight:
@OBENEDICTUS

JESUS AND APOSTLE PAUL SAID THAT FALES CHRISTIANS WILL ARISE ON THEIR LEAVING THE EARTH.

TO YOU. THAT IS NOT TRUE, ALL THE MEN THAT CAME AFTER THEM ARE SAINTS.

HOW CAN THEY ALL BE SAINT ?

WHO DECIDES WHO IS A SAINT ? HUMANS ? NO.

HUMANS WERE ASK TO ALLOW THEM TRUE CHRISTIANS AND FALSE CHRISTIANS TO GROW TOGETHER TILL THE TIME OF THE END.

IT IS ANGELS THAT WILL SEPERATE WHO IS WHO, TRUE FOLLOWERS FROM THE FALSE ONES.

THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE IN TIME PAST DECIDED TO BURN THERE FOLLOW HUMANS IN TIME PAST, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU THAT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NO REGARD FOR JESUS EXPRESSED INSTRUCTIONS STATED ABOVE.

IT IS HIGH TIME YOU START SHINING YOUR EYES. LEAVE TRADITION ALONE SO THAT TRADITION WILL LEAVE YOU.

@OBENEDICTUS.


hahaha,

moses was sinning in that passage right?

Weldone!

After you play your mental gymnastic you simply tell me if my example was a sin or was a ceremonial law that was abolished or it was one of those scriptures written for our instruction?

My take is that it wasn't a sin! Certainly wasn't part of the old testament ceremonial laws which were abolished, so it certainly was written or our instruction, that is why it was practice by the early Christians.

What is your take?
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by paulGrundy(m): 4:22pm On Jun 17, 2015
sportsmaster:


what of "they dint practise door to door preaching".?
Oya explain that one na.

Yes they didn't they preached in market squares and public places, but not door to door.
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jun 17, 2015
paulGrundy:


Yes they didn't they preached in market squares and public places, but not door to door.

What is this one saying *frowns*..
It was recorded that "they went everywhere preaching the word"
see acts8:1-4.

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Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by paulGrundy(m): 4:32pm On Jun 17, 2015
sportsmaster:


What is this one saying *frowns*..
It was recorded that "they went everywhere preaching the word"
see acts8:1-4.

Luke 10:1-7 "After these things the Lord designated seventy others and sent them forth by twos in advance of him into every city and place to which he himself was going to come. "Wherever YOU enter into a house say first, 'May this house have peace.' And if a friend of peace is there, YOUR peace will rest upon him. But if there is not, it will turn back to YOU. So stay in that house, eating and drinking the things they provide, for the worker is worthy of his wages. [size=22pt]Do not be transferring from house to house[/size]. (Ek oikia eis oikia)""
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jun 17, 2015
paulGrundy:


Luke 10:1-7 "After these things the Lord designated seventy others and sent them forth by twos in advance of him into every city and place to which he himself was going to come. "Wherever YOU enter into a house say first, 'May this house have peace.' And if a friend of peace is there, YOUR peace will rest upon him. But if there is not, it will turn back to YOU. So stay in that house, eating and drinking the things they provide, for the worker is worthy of his wages. [size=22pt]Do not be transferring from house to house[/size]. (Ek oikia eis oikia)""
I see,why should i be arguing again after seeing your signature
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by sonmvayina(m): 5:55pm On Jun 17, 2015
One way to tackle this is to look at it from a historical point of view. Which came first? The church or bible..there was never a ground zero for christainity..the church came first before they set out to collect and publish what they thought was inspired works by the apostles..after a serries of votes all done by men, they came up with the codex vaticanus..all these while they where guilded by the holy spitit in ddecisions concerning doctrines and traditions handed over by the early apastles..so to me. the church is more important than the bible...so whatever doctrine they define, we are obliged to believe it...
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by paulGrundy(m): 6:41pm On Jun 17, 2015
sportsmaster:

I see,why should i be arguing again after seeing your signature

Its not about my signature, its about what the bible says. Although Jesus commanded us to preach the gospel everywhere, he never stipulated door to door preaching as the ONLY ACCEPTABLE method of evangelism, as JW's would have you believe.
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by truthislight: 9:57pm On Jun 17, 2015
Ubenedictus:



i never said anything about human sacrifice. You are on your own? I won't argue against a stawman.



what! ?

Animal Sacrifice i did say. pretend as you like.

My advice to you is to let the Bible, the Bible alone be your guide.
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by truthislight: 10:14pm On Jun 17, 2015
sonmvayina:
One way to tackle this is to look at it from a historical point of view. Which came first? The church or bible..there was never a ground zero for christainity..the church came first before they set out to collect and publish what they thought was inspired works by the apostles..after a serries of votes all done by men, they came up with the codex vaticanus..all these while they where guilded by the holy spitit in ddecisions concerning doctrines and traditions handed over by the early apastles..so to me. the church is more important than the bible...so whatever doctrine they define, we are obliged to believe it...

Why are you complicating things for yourself ?

read what you wrote above, you wrote that the church published what the apostles of christ wrote as the Bible. fine!

So, what the apostles of christ wrote that was published and the SEATING OF NICEA and onward. which should set the TRUE standard for life for us to follow ?

Do you think it should be later tradition imposed by men ?

Note: the apostles of christ wrote what was published as the Bible.
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by sonmvayina(m): 10:43am On Jun 18, 2015
truthislight:


Why are you complicating things for yourself ?

read what you wrote above, you wrote that the church published what the apostles of christ wrote as the Bible. fine!

So, what the apostles of christ wrote that was published and the SEATING OF NICEA and onward. which should set the TRUE standard for life for us to follow ?

Do you think it should be later tradition imposed by men ?

Note: the apostles of christ wrote what was published as the Bible.



you have to understand that the church existed first..and these manuscripts where all scartered accross the roman empire..and more over, of the 13 pauline epistles that we have now, only 7 are authentic, the rest are forgeries..they practiced their religion without the bible as we have it today..it was to curb disunity that they decided to collect the manuscript which was more than 500..so by popular vote they decided which should be in the canon and which shoulod not...
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:00pm On Jun 19, 2015
truthislight:


Why are you complicating things for yourself ?

read what you wrote above, you wrote that the church published what the apostles of christ wrote as the Bible. fine!

So, what the apostles of christ wrote that was published and the SEATING OF NICEA and onward. which should set the TRUE standard for life for us to follow ?

Do you think it should be later tradition imposed by men ?

Note: the apostles of christ wrote what was published as the Bible.
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by truthislight: 10:53pm On Jun 19, 2015
sonmvayina:




you have to understand that the church existed first..and these manuscripts where all scartered accross the roman empire..and more over, of the 13 pauline epistles that we have now, only 7 are authentic, the rest are forgeries..they practiced their religion without the bible as we have it today..it was to curb disunity that they decided to collect the manuscript which was more than 500..so by popular vote they decided which should be in the canon and which shoulod not...

Na so. story for the gods.

RCC story. It must destroy the bible for it to remain relevant and in control.

After preventing it from circulation for 1000yrs that is.. In a dead Latin language that was. They will never stop or let go of destroying the bible.
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by truthislight: 10:57pm On Jun 19, 2015
When I say the apostle of Christ wrote what was published as the bible, I expect Obenedictus to know what I mean > NT.

NT teaching that is.

I said "teaching" less you run to history of NT.
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by sonmvayina(m): 8:00am On Jun 20, 2015
truthislight:


Na so. story for the gods.

RCC story. It must destroy the bible for it to remain relevant and in control.

After preventing it from circulation for 1000yrs that is.. In a dead Latin language that was. They will never stop or let go of destroying the bible.


for a good reason too..how many denominstions are in nigeria? You can not even count..and they are all using the same literature textbook..so whose interpretation is the best?..
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by truthislight: 4:23pm On Jun 20, 2015
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Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by truthislight: 4:24pm On Jun 20, 2015
sonmvayina:



for a good reason too..how many denominstions are in nigeria? You can not even count..and they are all using the same literature textbook..so whose interpretation is the best?..

Not a good reason to attack the bible.

The battle is God's not man's.

Taking up God's duty always leads to destruction by God.

Remember the fellow that attempted to stabilized the Ark of the covenant when it wanted to fall. He was kill. It was not his responsibility to touch/carry the Ark. solely the job of the Livites.

Fighting God's battle when he had said the Angels will do the reaping is presumptuousness.

God had said the wheat and the weed should grow together. QED.
Re: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by truthislight: 2:34pm On Jul 09, 2015
Talking about what this Catholic church that Obenedictus calls it pope's and priest saints did in the dark ages and what the Islamist are doing right now, which of the two did the worst ?

You will be surprised that Muslims are learners.

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