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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by JoeCutie(m): 1:38pm On Mar 08, 2015
Fallacy of 'Blasphemus Againstus Religionus' undecided

Many years ago when I was a learner, I offered to teach a choir because one girl I was chyking was a chorister in that choir. From there, I started going to Church almost every day, for either choir practice, fellowship or one reason or the other, but I made sure that the babe in question was involved in every of those engagements I made. I equally agreed to take her on a private Keyboard lesson. In fact, I was always seen in or around the church premises. Fast forward the story, when I finally got her, I took her home and the rest was...in fact, you know the drill. I got what I wanted, I moved ahead.

The inclusion of "automatic" in the statement has flawed the whole argument, making the logic invalid. If you say "potential", that's fine. "Every Church-goer is a potential child of God", that's okay. You can never be an automatic child of God just because you go to Church everyday, but you're at least, a potential child of God. Why? Because you could one day, encounter God in a special way and you'd be arrested by His presence just the same way Saul was. The closer you get to His house, the more you give yourself an opportunity, a chance to meeting with Him.

And for those people who argue that they mustn't go to Church to be called children of God, stop deceiving yourselves already. They claim to pray in their homes; fine. But if you need a favour from the President, and you have the chance of meeting him personally in his house, I'm sure you'd take that option, other than sitting at the comfort of your home, then trying to get across to him through a mediator or through Phone calls. God knows what we want even before we ask. He appreciates us when we kneel down in our rooms and pray to him, but I think He appreciates us even more when we could spare some of our time, come to Him in His house & pray to Him. God has feelings too. He also needs attention.
So stop being too lazy, and making unnecessary arguments, go to Church! undecided tongue grin

Chai! Today, I went to Church for the first time in months. Please, forgive me, Lord. embarassed

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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by organiser: 1:43pm On Mar 08, 2015
Being a member of one church or the other does not make one a christian or a child of God, but repentance, believing and acceptance of Jesus Christ into ones life and living a life according to the word of God and rejecting all manner of sinful lifestyle is what makes one a child of God, afterall most of these prostitutes, armed robbers, kidnappers, occult members, ritualists, homosexuals, lesbians etc goes to church, but that doesn't make them the children of God.1john 3 vs 8-10 says he that commits sin is of the devil, he that is born again does not commit sin. The difference is clear.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by organiser: 1:48pm On Mar 08, 2015
paxonel:


change this your orientation.
it is called the Nigerian orientation and it is invalid scripturally.
everybody who go to church are all from christian homes or do you see Muslims in church?
no.
accepting Jesus as your lord and Savior is the same thing as, you were once a Muslim or atheist or in another religion apart from Christianity. Then someone preached to you and you accepted to join Christianity. The moment you accepted to join Christianity (become a Christian ) you have accepted Jesus as your lord and personal saviour.
so, salvation is all about change of religion.
and if you have children ofcourse you will groom them to become christians like you, they will not be Muslims. By this. they are all saved.
this is how it apply to reality and how is in the Bible.
not what Nigerian pastors are teaching.
By the way, living your life according to God's word is not feasible assuming God's word says we should live our lives without commiting sin. because everybody commit sin.
therefore we are all saved by grace, that grace is simply becoming a Christian
organiser:
Being a member of one church or the other does not make one a christian or a child of God, but repentance, believing and acceptance of Jesus Christ into ones life and living a life according to the word of God and rejecting all manner of sinful lifestyle is what makes one a child of God, afterall most of these prostitutes, armed robbers, kidnappers, occult members, ritualists, homosexuals, lesbians etc goes to church, but that doesn't make them the children of God.1john 3 vs 8-10 says he that commits sin is of the devil, he that is born again does not commit sin. The difference is clear.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Nobody: 1:59pm On Mar 08, 2015
paxonel:


change this your orientation.
it is called the Nigerian orientation and it is invalid scripturally.
everybody who go to church are all from christian homes or do you see Muslims in church?
no.
accepting Jesus as your lord and Savior is the same thing as, you were once a Muslim or atheist or in another religion apart from Christianity. Then someone preached to you and you accepted to join Christianity. The moment you accepted to join Christianity (become a Christian ) you have accepted Jesus as your lord and personal saviour.
so, salvation is all about change of religion.
and if you have children ofcourse you will groom them to become christians like you, they will not be Muslims. By this. they are all saved.
this is how it apply to reality and how is in the Bible.
not what Nigerian pastors are teaching.
By the way, living your life according to God's word is not feasible assuming God's word says we should live our lives without commiting sin. because everybody commit sin.
therefore we are all saved by grace, that grace is simply becoming a Christian
pls read colosian2:6-7
… ..I pity u… .quote me after reading. peace.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Nobody: 2:00pm On Mar 08, 2015
paxonel:
No matter the church,if you were born into a christian home, whether you are a Catholic or Protestantor aladurah or whatever, Christ don't care.so long you believe in him whom God has sent, which is Jesus Jesus Christ.you are automatically saved.so, all these your religious activities in church is just vanity.just live your life, love everybody (non christians alike ) and enjoy yourself.this is your greatest calling
colosians2:6-7..pls read
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by egopersonified(f): 2:09pm On Mar 08, 2015
The one that pains me most is when people try to calculate your level of spirituality in direct proportion to your level of church attendance. I always wonder why church members who earn a living outside the church feel they should always be in church like the resident pastor who is paid to be in church always. Why be the judge of my Christian life, when we are promised there would be a judgement day? Why not wait till then and report me to God instead of trying to manipulate my psychic with guilt inducing words of encouragement. Abeg, make una free me.

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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Anietie1: 2:09pm On Mar 08, 2015
I strongly disagree with you here. Jesus said in Matthew 7:21 that not all those who call Him Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of God.

John 8:32. talks of knowing the truth dat set you free from religious ignorance n death.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Threemg: 2:20pm On Mar 08, 2015
paxonel:


change this your orientation.
it is called the Nigerian orientation and it is invalid scripturally.
everybody who go to church are all from christian homes or do you see Muslims in church?
no.
accepting Jesus as your lord and Savior is the same thing as, you were once a Muslim or atheist or in another religion apart from Christianity. Then someone preached to you and you accepted to join Christianity. The moment you accepted to join Christianity (become a Christian ) you have accepted Jesus as your lord and personal saviour.
so, salvation is all about change of religion.
and if you have children ofcourse you will groom them to become christians like you, they will not be Muslims. By this. they are all saved.
this is how it apply to reality and how is in the Bible.
not what Nigerian pastors are teaching.
By the way, living your life according to God's word is not feasible assuming God's word says we should live our lives without commiting sin. because everybody commit sin.
therefore we are all saved by grace, that grace is simply becoming a Christian

SMH..
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by worldy: 2:47pm On Mar 08, 2015
that doesnt qualify someone
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Juliesexy(f): 2:59pm On Mar 08, 2015
JoeCutie:
Fallacy of 'Blasphemus Againstus Religionus' undecided

Many years ago when I was a learner, I offered to teach a choir because one girl I was chyking was a chorister in that choir. From there, I started going to Church almost every day, for either choir practice, fellowship or one reason or the other, but I made sure that the babe in question was involved in every of those engagements I made. I equally agreed to take her on a private Keyboard lesson. In fact, I was always seen in or around the church premises. Fast forward the story, when I finally got her, I took her home and the rest was...in fact, you know the drill. I got what I wanted, I moved ahead.

The inclusion of "automatic" in the statement has flawed the whole argument, making the logic invalid. If you say "potential", that's fine. "Every Church-goer is a potential child of God", that's okay. You can never be an automatic child of God just because you go to Church everyday, but you're at least, a potential child of God. Why? Because you could one day, encounter God in a special way and you'd be arrested by His presence just the same way Saul was. The closer you get to His house, the more you give yourself an opportunity, a chance to meeting with Him.

And for those people who argue that they mustn't go to Church to be called children of God, stop deceiving yourselves already. They claim to pray in their homes; fine. But if you need a favour from the President, and you have the chance of meeting him personally in his house, I'm sure you'd take that option, other than sitting at the comfort of your home, then trying to get across to him through a mediator or through Phone calls. God knows what we want even before we ask. He appreciates us when we kneel down in our rooms and pray to him, but I think He appreciates us even more when we could spare some of our time, come to Him in His house & pray to Him. God has feelings too. He also needs attention.
So stop being too lazy, and making unnecessary arguments, go to Church! undecided tongue grin

Chai! Today, I went to Church for the first time in months. Please, forgive me, Lord. embarassed
Mr. Joseph, I know you're a philosophy student and you equally know Latin, but the above fallacy? Hehe... grin

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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by JoeCutie(m): 3:11pm On Mar 08, 2015
Juliesexy:
Mr. Joseph, I know you're a philosophy student and you equally know Latin, but the above fallacy? Hehe... grin
That's what is called innovation. I formed it myself. cheesy

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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by skyenitan04(m): 3:29pm On Mar 08, 2015
if u like buy rug or mat dey sleep wake inside church u don't look better dan anyone living under d bridge,...God doesn't live in churches or mosque..God lives in the heart of a man.going to church doesn't mean u re save..what of those going to church and stealing shoes at mosque nd church entrance ,are dose ones save too ? dats a shallow finking...I don't go to church I don't go to mosque but I get the Almighty God behind me...dnt ask me his name..i get God..
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Ayomivic(m): 3:45pm On Mar 08, 2015
paxonel:


change this your orientation.
it is called the Nigerian orientation and it is invalid scripturally.
everybody who go to church are all from christian homes or do you see Muslims in church?
no.
accepting Jesus as your lord and Savior is the same thing as, you were once a Muslim or atheist or in another religion apart from Christianity. Then someone preached to you and you accepted to join Christianity. The moment you accepted to join Christianity (become a Christian ) you have accepted Jesus as your lord and personal saviour.
so, salvation is all about change of religion.
and if you have children ofcourse you will groom them to become christians like you, they will not be Muslims. By this. they are all saved.
this is how it apply to reality and how is in the Bible.
not what Nigerian pastors are teaching.
By the way, living your life according to God's word is not feasible assuming God's word says we should live our lives without commiting sin. because everybody commit sin.
therefore we are all saved by grace, that grace is simply becoming a Christian

please don't mislead people with this preaching of yours.

Not every people that go to church are christians. Christianity is beyond going to church. Church merely stands as a foundation in christianity because you cannot believe what you dont have knowledge about,faith come true hearing. In church we were told about God and Christ, we pray and worship God. These were what we did in church but it does not make us real christian. Church is just a light that iluminate our heart to see the way of God. What make us a real Christian is to trust and obey the words of God that was written in the bible, when we hate what God hate and love what God love that is when we are christian.When we examine ourselve and we see the life of christ in us. What was the life of Christ? Christ was an holy man. We must make sure we are holy to the extence that when we look at ourself and find no fault in us, that is when we are Christian. Jesus said the "prince of this world came but did not find fault in me" and he also said "we should be perfect as our father in heaven is perfect"

God has given us grace to amend our way whenever we fall into sin. I think this is what bible is saying about grace. It does not mean we have priveledge to continue in sin sofar we are going to church. Remember the verse that say "we cannot continue in sin and say the blessing of God should abide. God forbid" so therefor, the main piority of us been a christian is ability to identify sin and run away for committing it. Tha is wha make us Christian.

We must also know that not all churces are preaching the true gosple of christ, not all Churces directed by the God's Spirit. In the world today we should trust the scripture and not the preacher. When someone is Preaching to us and did not use Bible verses to back his words as op did ,we should not buy his word and if someone is quoting Bible wrongfuly we must regect him and his words remember antichrist are in the world.

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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by uniqueren(f): 4:04pm On Mar 08, 2015
people wey go do direct entry from church to hell, na them plenty pass
cos with all the lack of moral, values and sincerity among Christians these days, a lot of people will be SPEWED out
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by otiigba1(m): 4:17pm On Mar 08, 2015
church is just a building and why have we forgoten that christianity originated from the middle east and brought to africa through the western white men?
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Nobody: 4:21pm On Mar 08, 2015
JoeCutie:
Fallacy of 'Blasphemus Againstus Religionus' undecided

Many years ago when I was a learner, I offered to teach a choir because one girl I was chyking was a chorister in that choir. From there, I started going to Church almost every day, for either choir practice, fellowship or one reason or the other, but I made sure that the babe in question was involved in every of those engagements I made. I equally agreed to take her on a private Keyboard lesson. In fact, I was always seen in or around the church premises. Fast forward the story, when I finally got her, I took her home and the rest was...in fact, you know the drill. I got what I wanted, I moved ahead.

The inclusion of "automatic" in the statement has flawed the whole argument, making the logic invalid. If you say "potential", that's fine. "Every Church-goer is a potential child of God", that's okay. You can never be an automatic child of God just because you go to Church everyday, but you're at least, a potential child of God. Why? Because you could one day, encounter God in a special way and you'd be arrested by His presence just the same way Saul was. The closer you get to His house, the more you give yourself an opportunity, a chance to meeting with Him.

And for those people who argue that they mustn't go to Church to be called children of God, stop deceiving yourselves already. They claim to pray in their homes; fine. But if you need a favour from the President, and you have the chance of meeting him personally in his house, I'm sure you'd take that option, other than sitting at the comfort of your home, then trying to get across to him through a mediator or through Phone calls. God knows what we want even before we ask. He appreciates us when we kneel down in our rooms and pray to him, but I think He appreciates us even more when we could spare some of our time, come to Him in His house & pray to Him. God has feelings too. He also needs attention.
So stop being too lazy, and making unnecessary arguments, go to Church! undecided tongue grin

Chai! Today, I went to Church for the first time in months. Please, forgive me, Lord. embarassed
the concluding statement u made is flawed. .the first and the most important place God wants to dwell in is in you, your body… .the temple of God….. the house not made with hands. romans12:1.I feel insecure going to some or most churches…. its among the brethren u will see envy.. hate…. backbite.. fornication.. lust…. indecency. Phil3..says beware of Dogs, evil doers and the concision. its about you… your growth first, getting rooted in christ…col2:6-7. I mean the first place jesus went before the display of the supernatural was the wilderness…… between him and God…… pls… don't preach church…preach growth….the holyghost has not seized being our perfect teacher......? church was meant for sharpening each other…but…. beware of dogs the bible says….if u want real growth ..its btw u and God in your personal alter where meditation… worship takes place. but church is only to sharpen…. to e courage… make intercession… etc…. acts4: for undestanding…if u r in a haste go to acts4:23-31.peace
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 4:23pm On Mar 08, 2015
ifeness:


Child of which of the Gods?
please ask me o,
lol.
actually, the original topic of this tread has been altered with the same OP.
this new topic has left a question in the OP's mind and that is the question you are asking.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 4:29pm On Mar 08, 2015
please, who ever changed the topic, what do you mean by child of God?
because, child of God can be seen in two different ways.
a christian who go to church can be seen as a child of God.
also, anybody who keep the law, loving people, caring for the poor can also be seen as a child of God.
which one out of these two?
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by ELEYINJUANU(m): 4:57pm On Mar 08, 2015
If everyone going to church are saved, means the devil also is saved. Going to church or been born into Christian religion did not guarantee the kingdom of God, if not Jesus will not talk on becoming born again. Before u can talk of the word Christian u must know the meaning and the event that happened before this name Christian was mention. Religion has be in existence before Christ came, so everyone go to church can be called believers, u believe in Jesus or other things but what make the difference is accepting Jesus as ur personal Lord and saviour. Satan also believed Jesus as the son of God but never save or repent. If u go to church without becoming new person heaven is not certain. Romans 8:1 say ' no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, to them who work not after the flesh but after the spirit' u can believe in Jesus but if you fail to turn a new life of holiness, sanctification you are not save.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by ELEYINJUANU(m): 5:09pm On Mar 08, 2015
paxonel:
No matter the church,if you were born into a christian home, whether you are a Catholic or Protestantor aladurah or whatever, Christ don't care.so long you believe in him whom God has sent, which is Jesus Jesus Christ.you are automatically saved.so, all these your religious activities in church is just vanity.just live your life, love everybody (non christians alike ) and enjoy yourself.this is your greatest calling
Bro. If what u're saying is true, it mean devil also is saved, because he believed Jesus is the son of God, but never repent. There is difference between believing and giving ur life to Christ. Everyone on planet earth are believers, but become born again, repentance from dead works, forsaking ur sinful ways is what it mean to be save.

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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 5:13pm On Mar 08, 2015
Ayomivic:


please don't mislead people with this preaching of yours.

Not every people that go to church are christians. Christianity is beyond going to church. Church merely stands as a foundation in christianity because you cannot believe what you dont have knowledge about,faith come true hearing. In church we were told about God and Christ, we pray and worship God. These were what we did in church but it does not make us real christian. Church is just a light that iluminate our heart to see the way of God. What make us a real Christian is to trust and obey the words of God that was written in the bible, when we hate what God hate and love what God love that is when we are christian.When we examine ourselve and we see the life of christ in us. What was the life of Christ? Christ was an holy man. We must make sure we are holy to the extence that when we look at ourself and find no fault in us, that is when we are Christian. Jesus said the "prince of this world came but did not find fault in me" and he also said "we should be perfect as our father in heaven is perfect"

God has given us grace to amend our way whenever we fall into sin. I think this is what bible is saying about grace. It does not mean we have priveledge to continue in sin sofar we are going to church. Remember the verse that say "we cannot continue in sin and say the blessing of God should abide. God forbid" so therefor, the main piority of us been a christian is ability to identify sin and run away for committing it. Tha is wha make us Christian.

We must also know that not all churces are preaching the true gosple of christ, not all Churces directed by the God's Spirit. In the world today we should trust the scripture and not the preacher. When someone is Preaching to us and did not use Bible verses to back his words as op did ,we should not buy his word and if someone is quoting Bible wrongfuly we must regect him and his words remember antichrist are in the world.

lol
sorry, the topic of this tread has been altered .
i don't know what he mean by child of God. the original topic was:
The truth is, everybody who go to church are saved. and not child of God.
being saved and the perception of being a child of God are two different thing.
Based on human perception,anybody who do good can be seen as child of God at that point. meaning, if you are not doing good you are not a child of God.
also, anybody who go to church can also be seen as a child of God.
But to be saved does not depend on whether we go to church or we do good like you rightly said
to be saved is strictly our believe in Christ only (being christians and not any other religion )
everybody in Christianity believe, therefore everybody in Christianity are saved.
All church goers are in Christianity (christians ) and are all saved.
no non christians (example, Muslims or atheists ) go to church.
so, salvation is strictly the Christian faith ( our religion )
without faith it is impossible to please God.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 5:18pm On Mar 08, 2015
JoeCutie:
Fallacy of 'Blasphemus Againstus Religionus' undecided

Many years ago when I was a learner, I offered to teach a choir because one girl I was chyking was a chorister in that choir. From there, I started going to Church almost every day, for either choir practice, fellowship or one reason or the other, but I made sure that the babe in question was involved in every of those engagements I made. I equally agreed to take her on a private Keyboard lesson. In fact, I was always seen in or around the church premises. Fast forward the story, when I finally got her, I took her home and the rest was...in fact, you know the drill. I got what I wanted, I moved ahead.

The inclusion of "automatic" in the statement has flawed the whole argument, making the logic invalid. If you say "potential", that's fine. "Every Church-goer is a potential child of God", that's okay. You can never be an automatic child of God just because you go to Church everyday, but you're at least, a potential child of God. Why? Because you could one day, encounter God in a special way and you'd be arrested by His presence just the same way Saul was. The closer you get to His house, the more you give yourself an opportunity, a chance to meeting with Him.

And for those people who argue that they mustn't go to Church to be called children of God, stop deceiving yourselves already. They claim to pray in their homes; fine. But if you need a favour from the President, and you have the chance of meeting him personally in his house, I'm sure you'd take that option, other than sitting at the comfort of your home, then trying to get across to him through a mediator or through Phone calls. God knows what we want even before we ask. He appreciates us when we kneel down in our rooms and pray to him, but I think He appreciates us even more when we could spare some of our time, come to Him in His house & pray to Him. God has feelings too. He also needs attention.
So stop being too lazy, and making unnecessary arguments, go to Church! undecided tongue grin

Chai! Today, I went to Church for the first time in months. Please, forgive me, Lord. embarassed

lol
sorry, the topic of this tread has been altered .
i don't know what he mean by child of God. the original topic was:
The truth is, everybody who go to church are saved. and not child of God.
being saved and the perception of being a child of God are two different thing.
Based on human perception,anybody who do good can be seen as child of God at that point. meaning, if you are not doing good you are not a child of God.
also, anybody who go to church can also be seen as a child of God.
But to be saved does not depend on whether we go to church or we do good.
to be saved is strictly our believe in Christ only (being christians and not any other religion )
everybody in Christianity believe, therefore everybody in Christianity are saved.
All church goers are in Christianity (christians ) and are all saved.
no non christians (example, Muslims or atheists ) go to church.
so, salvation is strictly the Christian faith.
without faith it is impossible to please God.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 5:22pm On Mar 08, 2015
free2ryhme:



Among my people are found the wicked ones

Many are called few are chosen
that's true.
But the gift of God (salvation ) is without repentance
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 5:24pm On Mar 08, 2015
iyke926:
Everybody that goes to the mechanic village is a mechanic, right?
it does not follow like that.
anybody can go to mechanic village, But Muslims are not found in church.
or do you see any?
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 5:27pm On Mar 08, 2015
softysparky:
I am a good Christian and not a church goer.
Just have a conscience and always try to do what is morally right.
God bless you for this
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by free2ryhme: 5:28pm On Mar 08, 2015
paxonel:

that's true.
But the gift of God (salvation ) is without repentance


Born again sef dey go hell fire ooo
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Okikiade(m): 5:33pm On Mar 08, 2015
There is a God somewhere! His existence goes beyond human perspectives, it's exactly why atheist will never believe! Judge not! Remain blessed!

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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 5:33pm On Mar 08, 2015
lamako:


so that means everyone is saved including pagans, atheist and christians alike.
no!
only christians are saved
only christians believe in Christ.
pagans, atheists Muslims etc are unbelievers.
no Christian is unbeliever.
nobody in church or church goer is unbeliever, not even christians who don't go to church
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 5:36pm On Mar 08, 2015
holyokoto:


Adam and Eve does not exist
that one na ya own be that
lol
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(m): 5:38pm On Mar 08, 2015
free2ryhme:



Born again sef dey go hell fire ooo
no born again
everybody commit sin
James says, if you break one law you have break it all.
so. it is not possible to be born again
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by free2ryhme: 5:42pm On Mar 08, 2015
paxonel:

no born again
everybody commit sin
James says, if you break one law you have break it all.
so. it is not possible to be born again


Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?'



Matt 7:22

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