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Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 5:01am On Mar 11, 2015
This challenge actually spring forth from another thread, i just felt the need to reach a larger audience. www.nairaland.com/2154348/atheists-agnostics-deists-liberals-freethinkers.

Here is the challenge point out one single fault in the life of Jesus Christ, either during his time on earth or in heaven, what i need is one fault or mistake, which could warrant you'all to develop this heavy disregard n punity with regards to Christianity.

SIMPLY JUST POINT OUT ONE SINGLE FAULT IN THE LIFE OF CHRIST, OR FOREVER SHUT YOUR TRAP.

Have come to realize you guys lack the real idea of what Christianity really is, all you hold to your heart are misconceptions.
- you'all think Christianity is about the pastor standing on the pulpit, deceiving the masses, using their faith against them.

-or your neighbors, your parents whose by there way of life your better than, just cause they dare find the faith to believe in God you expect that their humanity nature wouldn't take its troy on them.

-or your overly religious friend and colleagues with their double standard and lack of adequate deep rooted understanding of the bible they claim to read everyday.

Christianity is beyond one man, yet its a individual truth.

Quite pointing at the life of it followers and point hand at the every founder and originator of it, the master jesus himself.


You guys should understand something .
The word of God, the bible is the truth, but its not all the truth, neither the less it is the truth you as human need to make heaven.

No man no human on earth can comprehend all the truth, the truth is bigger than one man.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by fromnigeria(m): 5:12am On Mar 11, 2015
Jesus Christ was and is still spotless wink
The truth is: not everyone will subscribe christian.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by swisschris(m): 6:33am On Mar 11, 2015
Only a fool says there is no God
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by frank317: 6:45am On Mar 11, 2015
Who is Jesus Christ?... Is he a Nigerian?

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 6:47am On Mar 11, 2015
I actually like Jesus Christ. He would have been my perfect lover if i was still living during his time wink
Those disciples he had really must have had a nice time with him, especially John wink

At least Jesus never discriminated against gay people like me cool

For real though I like his teachings. SCRAP OUT all the stup.id books of Paul and all the war and crime that your God commanded in the old testament (even to the point of appealing to rapists) and leave out just the words of Jesus as teachings...then I may be a follower...not a worshipper...definitely not.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 6:51am On Mar 11, 2015
Meanwhile when an old testament verse is quoted talking about the ruthless God, Christians always say "It's the old testament"...

...but then I thought y'all say your God doesn't change from ages to ages? Apparently he does.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 10:01am On Mar 11, 2015
masonkz:
Meanwhile when an old testament verse is quoted talking about the ruthless God, Christians always say "It's the old testament"...

...but then I thought y'all say your God doesn't change from ages to ages? Apparently he does.
" I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT, NO ONE COMETH UNTO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME"quote by guru Jesus.
That the answer to your question.
The same old ill tempered God of old never and did not change, the bible clearly stated God is unchanging whether in old testament or in the new, but something change in the new testament, it wasnt God, but his motives did. Jesus is the new string of data that changed the equation, he now stood between us and the father by bis sacrifice on the cross our past and extreme futuristic sins has been paid for, now God no longer need exercise his judgements on us, instead takes it out on the suffering and sacrifice of christ on the cross " Gods very own punching bag ". God is still that same angry two faced loving father of old, this was the function of the sacrifice of old to sheld man from the anger of God. Following the bible itself to say GOD IS CHOLERIC, UNLESS YOUVE GOT A CHOLERIC FATHET DONT THINK YOULL GET THE ASSOCIATION.
This is where Christians miss it, God is not all loving unconditional love, thats JESUS's role, our personalized ozone layer. For christ sake God said i am a jealous God, yet in the new testament we r took love is not jealous.

Christ said i did not come to abolish the things of old, christ came to show a new perspective to what changed in the things of old.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by davien(m): 4:54pm On Mar 11, 2015
So if one can't point out any evil thing the mythology of "jesus" did, does that make it true?
If I can't point out one evil thing Santa claus does, does that make everything or anything about Santa true?

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 11:12am On Mar 12, 2015
davien:
So if one can't point out any evil thing the mythology of "jesus" did, does that make it true?
If I can't point out one evil thing Santa claus does, does that make everything or anything about Santa true?
the idea of pointing it out is to see if its disputable or not, forget the authenticity of the bible here, whether jesus is a fairy tale or not, non of ma bizz, whether his the Christian version of prince charming is not da point.

The point is since the Christians are followers of christ, as a guru, an enlightened one, a god blah blah blah.
I want you to point out where he went wrong, one imperfect, flaw in his sheld of doctrines that the Christians follow, cause Christians are suppose to be like him.
FYI-THE WORD CHRISTIAN MEANS CHRIST LIKE.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by davien(m): 11:20am On Mar 12, 2015
goshap:
the idea of pointing it out is to see if its disputable or not, forget the authenticity of the bible here, whether jesus is a fairy tale or not, non of ma bizz, whether his the Christian version of prince charming is not da point.
When nothing can be substantiated about a claim it's ignored because it's useless...

The point is since the Christians are followers of christ, as a guru, an enlightened one, a god blah blah blah.
I want you to point out where he went wrong, one imperfect, flaw in his sheld of doctrines that the Christians follow, cause Christians are suppose to be like him.
FYI-THE WORD CHRISTIAN MEANS CHRIST LIKE.
Again....not pointing out anything wrong about anything doesn't mean it's true either....
Not withstanding the character portrayed in the bible did throw tantrums over merchants in an alleged temple(similar to an extremist) plus the incessant need of the characters doctrine to instigate "judaism" and propagate anti-semitism..
And the word "christian" is and has been subjective(as in unique) to each denomination of "christianity"....And so as a likely protestant(correct me if you aren't) that's what "christian" means to you...

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 1:25pm On Mar 12, 2015
davien:
When nothing can be substantiated about a claim it's ignored because it's useless...
Again....not pointing out anything wrong about anything doesn't mean it's true either....
Not withstanding the character portrayed in the bible did throw tantrums over merchants in an alleged temple(similar to an extremist)
extremist, hmmm!, from a logic side may be a little too, but lets face it does people had it coming, how would your boss feel, if you turned his office into a market place, literally into a market witj goats, chickens and pigs running around with poops every, how would he respond or how should he respond, am pretty sure your gonna loss your job. You do know that anger is not a sin, and even christ been flesh n blood was subjected to anger n pain too [/quote]


plus the incessant need of the characters doctrine to instigate "judaism" and propagate anti-semitism..
How could he instigate judaism and yet be antisemitic at the same time, you just contradicted urself. Check how can he be racist against jews, yet intigate Judaism.
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And the word "christian" is and has been subjective(as in unique) to each denomination of "Christianity"....And so as a likely protestant(correct me if you aren't) that's what "christian" means to you...
the word Christian means the same thing in all denominations of Christianity, the variety of meaning you'll get depend on the mode of translation. Even in the Bible Christians were called christ like vias the name. The hebrew to english interpretation of the word Christian does not mean christ like,. Let me remind you that while converting an English word to hebrew, you first transcribe the said word to hebrew " this is usually where the meaning change and vary " then back to the Hebrew englisj equivalent of the said word.

For the record am not Christian, am theist.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by ooman(m): 4:14pm On Mar 12, 2015
Considering that records about Jesus life werent written until about 40 years after his death, and considering that Jesus has long been deified, I think any reprehensible behavior in his life would have been destroyed off record, so as to paint him as not just a saint, but a god.

However, some flaws in Jesus life escaped the editors.

Jesus both did and said some things that are

1. Incredibly racist/ Xenophobic.

2. Lies or miscalculations. However, its a fault - which is what you asked for.

3. Male chauvinistic.

4. Disobedient/ disregard for his mum.

Points to support claims.

1. A woman needed help, went to him (Jesus). He told her that food that belong to children shouldnt be given to dogs.

Fault-
He called a woman a dog, which is purely chauvinistic.
He clearly showed that he didnt care about others but the Jews by referring to others as dogs and the Jews as children.
He displayed racism/xenophobia through the above point.
Mat 15v26.

2. A miscaculation. Jesus was wrong when he said if he didnt leave, the holy spirit cant come. John 16v7. Apparently, however, the holy ghost was already around, doing the good work of impregnating virgins (what a way to live). Matt 1v18. Luke 1v41.

Fault.
He miscalculated the time of the coming of the holy ghost.

Fault 3 already supported in point 1.

4. Wedding at Canna- So there was a wedding and there was no wine and Jesus' mother told him that they had no wine and he rebuked her, saying "Woman, what have I to do with you". John 2v4.

Fault.
Perhaps his "hour" hadnt come for real but most of us know not to talk to our mother like that. In this, he showed a disregard for his mum.

This is all for now.

No offense intended

Op asked for just 1, but faults in Jesus' life are more than 1.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by onetrack(m): 4:25pm On Mar 12, 2015
Jesus also said that he came to turn family members against each other. Not a positive point of view.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 9:00pm On Mar 12, 2015
He said in his own words "I am sent only to the lost sheeps of the house of isreal matthew 15:24.." he made it very clear..

wonder why africans are killing themselves over it.. embarassed

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by 5minsmadness: 9:10pm On Mar 12, 2015
You atheist folks had better be right cos if you r wrong YOU ARE SO GOING TO BE ROYALLY bleeped!
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 9:28pm On Mar 12, 2015
5minsmadness:
You atheist folks had better be right cos if you r wrong YOU ARE SO GOING TO BE ROYALLY bleeped!

lobatan grin this one is afraid grin

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by 5minsmadness: 9:47pm On Mar 12, 2015
johnydon22:


lobatan grin this one is afraid grin
I swear I am not.
Well, wait a bit... Yeah a little. It is God you are talking about. You believe in your (whatever you believe in) so much that you are willing to ridicule and insult the MOST popular Immortal on earth... Just cos you learn to read and figured out the meaning of atheism or humanism from Google... You guys even carry it on your head more than the white folk, the same white people that preached Christ to your ancestors, the same white people teaching you atheism. You think you are now thinking freely but in reality even your thoughts on atheism are not originally yours. You are still following the same white folk. Even they are not as blasphemous in their write-ups but Nigerians being what they are will always want to outdo.

Darn. I hope you guys are right. Because then death would be the end of it and we will all have nothing to lose. But if you are wrong...

Royally Fvcked!
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by malvisguy212: 9:50pm On Mar 12, 2015
Jesus is called holy in the womb and at the age of 12 he speak with authority in front of some priest.

Peter was one of Jesus disciples,peter walk,ate and prayed with Jesus, he was amoung the disciples who is closer to christ, infacte it was peter who God first revealed the true nature of himself, peter wrote;

1 Peter 2:22
WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH;

Pilate look for fault in Jesus just to crucified him ,but;
John 19:4
Pilate came out again and said to them,
"Behold, I am bringing Him out to you so that you may know that I find NO GUILT IN HIM."

Isaiah say;
Isaiah 53:9
His grave was assigned with wicked men, Yet He was with a rich man in His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.

This is the character of Jesus;
Hebrews 1:9
"YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND
HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD,
YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH
THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR
COMPANIONS."
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by malvisguy212: 9:58pm On Mar 12, 2015
johnydon22:


lobatan grin this one is afraid grin
you are the one who is afraid here because the bros did not quote you, your insecurity makes you to quote him.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 10:07pm On Mar 12, 2015
malvisguy212:
you are the one who is afraid here because the bros did not quote you, your insecurity makes you to quote him.

**Rolls on the floor laughing**

so now quoting someone is now insecurity.. cheesy and to think that you just quoted me is so ironic cus i didnt quote you too.. oooh i get it your insecurities made you quote me.. lmAO..

Is this guy purposely acting dumb or are you like this really? grin

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 10:12pm On Mar 12, 2015
5minsmadness:

I swear I am not.
Well, wait a bit... Yeah a little. It is God you are talking about. You believe in your (whatever you believe in) so much that you are willing to ridicule and insult the MOST popular Immortal on earth... Just cos you learn to read and figured out the meaning of atheism or humanism from Google... You guys even carry it on your head more than the white folk, the same white people that preached Christ to your ancestors, the same white people teaching you atheism. You think you are now thinking freely but in reality even your thoughts on atheism are not originally yours. You are still following the same white folk. Even they are not as blasphemous in their write-ups but Nigerians being what they are will always want to outdo.

Darn. I hope you guys are right. Because then death would be the end of it and we will all have nothing to lose. But if you are wrong...

Royally Fvcked!

Lolzzz in every culture they have been skeptical people from the very beginning..

No one taught me anything like they are teaching you now..

I found religion to be implausible and that is it.. the label atheist is just a way people identify those who dont believe in fairy tales...

So please now which of the gods are you afraid of..

Amadioha?
zeus?
sango?
yahweh?
osiris?
allah?
horus?
mithras?
ikenga?
etc..

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by malvisguy212: 10:30pm On Mar 12, 2015
johnydon22:


**Rolls on the floor laughing**

so now quoting someone is now insecurity.. cheesy and to think that you just quoted me is so ironic cus i didnt quote you too.. oooh i get it your insecurities made you quote me.. lmAO..

Is this guy purposely acting dumb or are you like this really? grin
you can insults me,no problem. I assured you, very soon it will all end.
End mean, the world may end anytime or our life may end anytime and we will give account of our self.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by onetrack(m): 10:34pm On Mar 12, 2015
malvisguy212:
you can insults me,no problem. I assured you, very soon it will all end.
End mean, the world may end anytime or our life may end anytime and we will give account of our self.

And if this "god" sides with the atheists for using their brains instead of being mindless sheep what will you do?

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 10:36pm On Mar 12, 2015
malvisguy212:
you can insults me,no problem. I assured you, very soon it will all end.
End mean, the world may end anytime or our life may end anytime and we will give account of our self.

The world have been ending for more than 2000years now... grin

Dead people give accounts? with pen and paper i guess.. cheesy

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by malvisguy212: 10:36pm On Mar 12, 2015
onetrack:


And if this "god" sides with the atheists for using their brains instead of being mindless sheep what will you do?
I will pay the price...... Do you believe there is God?
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by 5minsmadness: 12:39am On Mar 13, 2015
johnydon22:


Lolzzz in every culture they have been skeptical people from the very beginning..

No one taught me anything like they are teaching you now..

I found religion to be implausible and that is it.. the label atheist is just a way people identify those who dont believe in fairy tales...

So please now which of the gods are you afraid of..

Amadioha?
zeus?
sango?
yahweh?
osiris?
allah?
horus?
mithras?
ikenga?
etc..
Have you ever noticed how 'atheism' is not anti-allah or anti-amadioha or anti-buddah. Read all the websites on atheism including the threads and posts here on naira land. Atheism is anti-God, specifically the Christian God. All the sarcasm and jokes and jibes are not directed at Allah or Buddha or Zeus, despite the former two boasting a very substantial followership. You guys are fighting in an army you don't even know you have been recruited in.

Atheism is supposed to mean Anti-theism but in reality it is anti-Jewish God.

Anti-Jewish God
Anti-Christian
Anti- Christ.

Use your so called liberated minds and think for yourselves.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 12:48am On Mar 13, 2015
5minsmadness:

Have you ever noticed how 'atheism' is not anti-allah or anti-amadioha or anti-buddah. Read all the websites on atheism including the threads and posts here on naira land. Atheism is anti-God, specifically the Christian God. All the sarcasm and jokes and jibes are not directed at Allah or Buddha or Zeus, despite the former two boasting a very substantial followership. You guys are fighting in an army you don't even know you have been recruited in.

Atheism is supposed to mean Anti-theism but in reality it is anti-Jewish God.

Anti-Jewish God
Anti-Christian
Anti- Christ.

Use your so called liberated minds and think for yourselves.

lmao i wonder which planet you are in... You have not seen atheists attacking Allah, lolzzz you really have not seen anything yet...

Most atheist you see here were once christians so they argue with you based on what they know.

i wonder how many atheist website you have visited ok let me just give you one example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIur6akd0YQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
and this too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEv3oRODkek&feature=youtube_gdata_player

and also check this website the-militant-atheist.org/quran-quotes.html

now get your facts straight and stop playing the victims card..

This desperate attempt of yours to say atheist dont ridicule muslims and their allah is so fallacious that i just fall flat and laugh at it...

btw atheism doesnt mean anti-theism it simply means non-theist..

please i ask again which God du fear.

Zeus,
Allah,
Horus,
yahweh,
osiris,
mithras,
sango,
amadioaha? grin

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 12:49am On Mar 13, 2015
By da grace of God i think am really gonna enjoy this
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 12:49am On Mar 13, 2015
By da grace of God i think am really gonna enjoy this.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 5:05am On Mar 13, 2015
I think your challenge is built on the false premise that atheism= an absolute disregard for jesus.In as much as i don't feel any particular need to worship him or anyone else,i still regard him as a good guy that had some serious issues with staying out of trouble.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by wiegraf: 6:58am On Mar 13, 2015
Op, patient atheists have been remarkably patient with you despite your comical stoopidity. Vomiting all over that 'let's meet' thread and now this farce. Their attitude puts mine to shame.

That asides, I thought jesus, the same person that's coming back for his people with a sword, was also god? Was he not the same person that tortured and crucified himself so he could save us from himself??

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by 5minsmadness: 8:17am On Mar 13, 2015
johnydon22:


lmao i wonder which planet you are in... You have not seen atheists attacking Allah, lolzzz you really have not seen anything yet...

Most atheist you see here were once christians so they argue with you based on what they know.

i wonder how many atheist website you have visited ok let me just give you one example

now get your facts straight and stop playing the victims card..

This desperate attempt of yours to say atheist dont ridicule muslims and their allah is so fallacious that i just fall flat and laugh at it...

btw atheism doesnt mean anti-theism it simply means non-theist..

please i ask again which God du fear.

Zeus,
Allah,
Horus,
yahweh,
osiris,
mithras,
sango,
amadioaha? grin


Oh yeah I forgot.
We are in the Google age where you can search anything even Atheism talking about ice-cream and it will pop up.


Of course my statement wasn't absolute. Definitely atheists have talked about Islam and other religions. But which belief do they primarily target?

Now kindly Google atheism and Christianity (12,900,000 results), compare atheism and Islam (8,550,000 results). Atheism and God (16,800,000 results), compare Atheism and Allah (665,000 results!), Atheism and Jesus(13,000,100), Atheism and Mohammed (438,000 grin),

And finally, just to show you can actually get all sorts of nonsense links off the internet;
Atheism and ICE-CREAM(318,000 grin).




Your Atheism is an army whose primary aim is to ridicule God, Jesus and the Bible.

Anti-God
Anti-Christianity
Anti-Christ.

You are fighting in an army you don't even know you have been recruited into.

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