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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 8:22am On Mar 13, 2015
5minsmadness:



Oh yeah I forgot.
We are in the Google age where you can search anything even Atheism talking about ice-cream and it will pop up.


Of course my statement wasn't absolute. Definitely atheists have talked about Islam and other religions. But which belief do they primarily target?

Now kindly Google atheism and Christianity (12,900,000 results), compare atheism and Islam (8,550,000 results). Atheism and God (16,800,000 results), compare Atheism and Allah (665,000 results!), Atheism and Jesus(13,000,100), Atheism and Mohammed (438,000 grin),

And finally, just to show you can actually get all sorts of nonsense links off the internet;
Atheism and ICE-CREAM(318,000).




Your Atheism is an army whose primary aim is to ridicule God, Jesus and the Bible.

You are fighting in an army you don't even know you have been recruited into.

Lmao... you just confirmed it boy... now say atheists don't redicule islam again grin

now back to the idea of God..

oya which of the God(s)
zeus?
horus?
osiris?
allah?
yahweh?
mithras?
sango?
amadioha?

which of them do you fear? smiley
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by 5minsmadness: 9:39am On Mar 13, 2015
johnydon22:


Lmao... you just confirmed it boy... now say atheists don't redicule islam again grin

now back to the idea of God..

oya which of the God(s)
zeus?
horus?
osiris?
allah?
yahweh?
mithras?
sango?
amadioha?

which of them do you fear? smiley
grin grin grin
It's amazing how you select what you want to read and totally ignore the point being made cheesy

Here. Let me help you:

Of course my statement wasn't absolute. Definitely atheists have talked about Islam and other religions. But which belief do they primarily target?

The difference in numbers is practically in the millions shocked

Anti-God
Anti-Christian
Anti-Christ.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 9:52am On Mar 13, 2015
5minsmadness:

grin grin grin
It's amazing how you select what you want to read and totally ignore the point being made cheesy

Here. Let me help you:


The difference in numbers is practically in the millions shocked

Anti-God
Anti-Christian
Anti-Christ.


First of all compare the number of christians that turn atheists to that of muslims, they greatly outnumber the later..

in my own words i told you
Most of the atheist you see here were once christians, so they argue with you based on what they know
so funny you ignored that and carried on with your anti-jewish deity crap..

Your early post stated that atheist dont attack other deities
5minsmadness:


Have you ever noticed how 'atheism' is not anti-Allah or anti-amadioha
or anti-buddah. Read all the websites on atheism including the threads
and posts here on naira land. Atheism is anti-God, specifically the
Christian God. All the sarcasm and jokes and jibes are not directed at
Allah or Buddha or Zeus, despite the former two boasting a very
substantial followership. You guys are fighting in an army you don't
even know you have been recruited in.
Atheism is supposed to mean Anti-theism but in reality it is anti-Jewish
God.
Anti-Jewish God
Anti-Christian
Anti- Christ.
Use your so called liberated minds and think for yourselves.

now when i proved you wrong, you resorted to comparing numbers... lolzz nice defence..
cheesy

Christians turned atheist greatly outnumber muslims that turn atheistic by millions, so they attack what they know .... grin

Can you now rest it and answer my question boy...

which God are you afraid of.. grin

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by onetrack(m): 10:07am On Mar 13, 2015
malvisguy212:
I will pay the price...... Do you believe there is God?

No I am atheist.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by 5minsmadness: 10:25am On Mar 13, 2015
johnydon22:


First of all compare the number of christians that turn atheists to that of muslims, they greatly outnumber the later..

in my own words i told you
so funny you ignored that and carried on with your anti-jewish deity crap..

Your early post stated that atheist dont attack other deities


now when i proved you wrong, you resorted to comparing numbers... lolzz nice defence..
cheesy

Christians turned atheist greatly outnumber muslims that turn atheistic by millions, so they attack what they know .... grin

Can you now rest it and answer my question boy...

which God are you afraid of.. grin

And I told you my statement wasn't absolute. Stop being so desperate for points.

And your question is a rethorical one, son.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by johnydon22(m): 10:32am On Mar 13, 2015
5minsmadness:


And I told you my statement wasn't absolute. Stop being so desperate for points.

And your question is a rethorical one, son.

lol not absolute.. grin

chai... !!!...smh
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by malvisguy212: 4:24pm On Mar 13, 2015
onetrack:


No I am atheist.
so there is no way this God will side with you because you don't believe in Him,infacte most of you guys blasphemy His name.

I don't condemned you for being an atheists,but the points is that you guys blasphemy his name forgotten the facts that you may be wrong.for me this is not ordinary,there is satanic manipulation going on some where, that is how satan urged rebellion against God, he used eve,first deny the statement made by God (God dint say anything caused He isn't there) then contradicts the supposed word of God and then claimed equality with God.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by ooman(m): 4:38pm On Mar 13, 2015
ooman:
Considering that records about Jesus life werent written until about 40 years after his death, and considering that Jesus has long been deified, I think any reprehensible behavior in his life would have been destroyed off record, so as to paint him as not just a saint, but a god.

However, some flaws in Jesus life escaped the editors.

Jesus both did and said some things that are

1. Incredibly racist/ Xenophobic.

2. Lies or miscalculations. However, its a fault - which is what you asked for.

3. Male chauvinistic.

4. Disobedient/ disregard for his mum.

Points to support claims.

1. A woman needed help, went to him (Jesus). He told her that food that belong to children shouldnt be given to dogs.

Fault-
He called a woman a dog, which is purely chauvinistic.
He clearly showed that he didnt care about others but the Jews by referring to others as dogs and the Jews as children.
He displayed racism/xenophobia through the above point.
Mat 15v26.

2. A miscaculation. Jesus was wrong when he said if he didnt leave, the holy spirit cant come. John 16v7. Apparently, however, the holy ghost was already around, doing the good work of impregnating virgins (what a way to live). Matt 1v18. Luke 1v41.

Fault.
He miscalculated the time of the coming of the holy ghost.

Fault 3 already supported in point 1.

4. Wedding at Canna- So there was a wedding and there was no wine and Jesus' mother told him that they had no wine and he rebuked her, saying "Woman, what have I to do with you". John 2v4.

Fault.
Perhaps his "hour" hadnt come for real but most of us know not to talk to our mother like that. In this, he showed a disregard for his mum.

This is all for now.

No offense intended

Op asked for just 1, but faults in Jesus' life are more than 1.

In addition, he displayed sociopathy when he disrupted peaceful business activities going on in the temple.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by onetrack(m): 5:14pm On Mar 13, 2015
malvisguy212:
so there is no way this God will side with you because you don't believe in Him,infacte most of you guys blasphemy His name.

I don't condemned you for being an atheists,but the points is that you guys blasphemy his name forgotten the facts that you may be wrong.for me this is not ordinary,there is satanic manipulation going on some where, that is how satan urged rebellion against God, he used eve,first deny the statement made by God (God dint say anything caused He isn't there) then contradicts the supposed word of God and then claimed equality with God.

Atheists do not believe in Satan either.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Brymo: 5:42pm On Mar 13, 2015
"The only atheism is the denial of truth."-
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Liveair: 5:48pm On Mar 13, 2015
Op, it is couter-intuitive to use the bible to disprove itself. However, you asked for just one, I'll oblige you with two.

1. Read John 7:8-10. Jesus lied to his siblings that he wasn't going for the trip as his time had not come, yet he sneaks out and goes after they leave him.

2. Read Mattew 16:28. He assured his listeners that some of them would still be alive when he comes as king. I guess they are still alive, waiting, after some 2000+ years.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 6:20pm On Mar 13, 2015
Lol goshap you no reply again?? grin

I was expecting to see your replies to every of the single posts here, albeit how stup.id...but none. Don't tell me you're trying to research more on your bible grin



Religion remains the biggest problem in the world cheesy
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 8:02pm On Mar 13, 2015
masonkz:
Lol goshap you no reply again?? grin

I was expecting to see your replies to every of the single posts here, albeit how stup.id...but none. Don't tell me you're trying to research more on your bible grin



Religion remains the biggest problem in the world cheesy
waig for it, promise its gonna b epic
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 8:36pm On Mar 13, 2015
goshap:
waig for it, promise its gonna b epic

Epic ko. Guinea pig ni grin
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 12:22am On Mar 14, 2015
masonkz:


Epic ko. Guinea pig ni grin
ronaldo do tongue
masonkz:


Epic ko. Guinea pig ni grin
ronaldo do
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by frank317: 8:28am On Mar 14, 2015
Jesus said: ask and it shall be given unto u, seek and ye shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you.


How true is the statement or promise above?

Christians have been asking for the release of chibok girls, they have been asking for a better Nigeria, all these for more that 3 years now... And they have received nothing.

In fact, they are rather bombed and roasted right their in their God's house while asking instead.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 6:50pm On Mar 14, 2015
ooman:
Considering that records about Jesus life weren't written until about 40 years after his death, and considering that Jesus has long been deified, I think any reprehensible behavior in his life would have been destroyed off record, so as to paint him as not just a saint, but a god.
you think,let assume so, what happened to verses like Mark11:1-14,where Jesus caused the fig tree, or mark 11:15'where he chased out the temple merchant with whips made from rope.[/quote]

However, some flaws in Jesus life escaped the editors.

Jesus both did and said some things that are

1. Incredibly racist/ Xenophobic.

2. Lies or miscalculations. However, its a fault - which is what you asked for.

3. Male chauvinistic.

4. Disobedient/ disregard for his mum.

Points to support claims.


1. A woman needed help, went to him (Jesus). He told her that food that belong to children shouldn't be given to dogs.

Fault-
He called a woman a dog, which is purely chauvinistic.
He clearly showed that he didn't care about others but the Jews by referring to others as dogs and the Jews as children.
He displayed racism/xenophobia through the above point.
Mat 15v26.
seriously romans 5:13
English Standard Version
for sin indeed was in the world before the
law was given, but sin is not counted where
there is no law.
your using a twenty first century imperative to compare and contract the bible.from genesis to revelation the iseralite has been referred too as Gods people ,chosen especially by other race,nation and ethnicity . read your a hand full of races consider themselves subordinates to the children of iseral, special treatment and a sense of repect has been allocated to the children of iseral,clearly. back then certain races where considered slave worthy and certain races referred to as the elite.would yoi then say christ commited a sin by going by the order of things,when there was no clear cut law rebuking it?. A MAN PUTTING ON SKIRT IN OUR SOCIETY IS CONSIDERED IN APPROPRIATE, A MAN PUTTING ON THAT SAME SKIRT IN GERMANY OR IRE LAND IS CHEERED, whats the difference here. now the word dog there might be a representative of anything, slave,subordinate,undeserving,out of place,immoral ,unclean, wild,untamed etc, context in , context out which every one, its clearly a disregard, but a health disregard as you could see by the verse, the woman adhered to the it, and Jesus was not rebuke, even the bible created a clear cut distinction between the woman and everyone present by calling her The Syrophoenician Woman ( Canaanite )


2. A miscaculation. Jesus was wrong when he said if he didnt leave, the holy spirit cant come. John 16v7. Apparently, however, the holy ghost was already around, doing the good work of impregnating virgins (what a way to live). Matt 1v18. Luke 1v41.

Fault.
He miscalculated the time of the coming of the holy ghost.
even befor the birth of christ the holy spirit has occasionally appeared in the mist of the children of iseral, the question is AS WHAT DID/IS HE APPEARING AS?. HOLY SPIRIT THE IMPREGNATOR OR HOLY SPIRIT THE TEACHER,INTERCESSOR AND PROMISE
john 14:26
New International Version
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach
you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. ) OR HOLY SPIRIT THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF GOD (as seen in genesis).
or as holy spirit the strength of God ,as seen in the life of SAMSON.
note:The holy spirit is Gods expression in the mist of mankind,how he chooses to relate or communicate.
[/quote]


Fault 3 already supported in point 1.


4. Wedding at Canna- So there was a wedding and there was no wine and Jesus' mother told him that they had no wine and he rebuked her, saying "Woman, what have I to do with you". John 2v4.

Fault.
Perhaps his "hour" hadnt come for real but most of us know not to talk to our mother like that. In this, he showed a disregard for his mum.
.
1.you said most of us , jesus is not most of us.. 2. you really should research the jewish custom with regards to women. if his regards to his mom at that time was dimmed wrong am pretty sure someone would have rebuked him, back then.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 6:42am On Mar 15, 2015
swisschris:
Only a fool says there is no God
hold up,lemme laugh at your gullibility,yep!!!.....Think about this,why would a perfect word of god in a goddamn bible use profanity in order to convince me of its legitimacy?
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by TheFilmmaker: 7:35am On Mar 15, 2015
Ponder over these quotes, delusional OP.



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_premise

The bible as the sole basis and evidence for your cock and bull fairy tale Jesus story is a failed pathetic line of argument. Since the premise itself (the bible) is faulty, why must I even believe your fabled dear Jesus is real? Savvy



You so definitelty know this to be true.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
I am 95% convinced that you are going through a fast torrent of cognitive dissonance, and that is the reason you keep bringing up these threads and all to justify your religious beliefs. Take your time. I was once in your shoes. The truth is, no matter how much you try to convince yourself, the heart knows what I wants. Its not a choice of rebellion, its the choice of being human. The truth shall, in the end, set you free.

Lastly, let me clear a popular misconception about atheists/freethinkers/et al

Oh, by the way Marcus was born on 26 April 121
Rome and Died on 17 March 180 (aged 58). So don't go believing atheism or whatever you people tend to label it these days just started.

And this one

Be nice to people irrespective of ther nationality, beliefs or creed. Do to others just what you would want them to do to you.

Peace and you can PM if you need help to battle your cognitive dissonance. The mind is a very expensive thing to lose.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 9:42am On Mar 15, 2015
TheFilmmaker:
Ponder over these quotes, delusional OP.



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_premise

The bible as the sole basis and evidence for your cock and bull fairy tale Jesus story is a failed pathetic line of argument. Since the premise itself (the bible) is faulty, why must I even believe your fabled dear Jesus is real? Savvy



You so definitelty know this to be true.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
I am 95% convinced that you are going through a fast torrent of cognitive dissonance, and that is the reason you keep bringing up these threads and all to justify your religious beliefs. Take your time. I was once in your shoes. The truth is, no matter how much you try to convince yourself, the heart knows what I wants. Its not a choice of rebellion, its the choice of being human. The truth shall, in the end, set you free.

Lastly, let me clear a popular misconception about atheists/freethinkers/et al

Oh, by the way Marcus was born on 26 April 121
Rome and Died on 17 March 180 (aged 58). So don't go believing atheism or whatever you people tend to label it these days just started.

And this one

Be nice to people irrespective of ther nationality, beliefs or creed. Do to others just what you would want them to do to you.

Peace and you can PM if you need help to battle your cognitive dissonance. The mind is a very expensive thing to lose.
now we going philosophical not biblically, jeez!. Please 95% of the evidence given by me, i dont believe in them, am theist not stupid, all this is cheap thrill, the bible is fool proof. Me knowing and understanding the bible makes me human, me human, me not adhering/believing in what's written between it makes me theist.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by TheFilmmaker: 9:56am On Mar 15, 2015
goshap:
now we going philosophical not biblically, jeez!. Please 95% of the evidence given by me, i dont believe in them, am theist not stupid, all this is cheap thrill, the bible is fool proof. Me knowing and understanding the bible makes me human, me human, me not adhering/believing in what's written between it makes me theist.


You still don't get it.



The world is moving forward, and so you are...Check yourself, the laws in Leviticus, and the New Testaments. Ask yourself if you're following them.

You're just adamant to stone age.

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by swisschris(m): 2:17pm On Mar 15, 2015
aaronson:
hold up,lemme laugh at your gullibility,yep!!!.....Think about this,why would a perfect word of god in a goddamn bible use profanity in order to convince me of its legitimacy?

Listen heaven is not meant for every body, we see what we see nd we believe what we believe,I 'll rather waste my lifetime in blindness than to face him nd hear him say "Son u didn't do it right"
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 2:39pm On Mar 15, 2015
swisschris:


Listen heaven is not meant for every body, we see what we see nd we believe what we believe,I 'll rather waste my lifetime in blindness than to face him nd hear him say "Son u didn't do it right"
You see what yall see because yall don't want your illusion destroyed,you believe what yall believe because all your life,you have been around people you agree with.yes,you wish to waste your time in blindness because that's the true meaning of FAITH!!!! #ImProudAtheist

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Ymodulus: 5:57pm On Mar 15, 2015
The one area were I have thought Jesus possibly made a "mistake" was the instance with the fig tree. Jesus was expecting to find figs but when he made it to the tree there were no figs. Of course there are the parallels that can be made concerning Israel. However, form the text it is possible to infer that Jesus "missed it."

18 In the morning, as he was returning to the city, he became hungry. 19 And seeing a fig tree by the wayside, he went to it and found nothing on it but only leaves. And he said to it, “May no fruit ever come from you again!” And the fig tree withered at once.

Now if Jesus never made a factual mistake and was fully walking in his omniscience here on earth we should assume he would have already known that the tree had no figs and therefore would not have approached it......right?

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Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Sibrah: 6:16pm On Mar 15, 2015
Ymodulus:
The one area were I have thought Jesus possibly made a "mistake" was the instance with the fig tree. Jesus was expecting to find figs but when he made it to the tree there were no figs. Of course there are the parallels that can be made concerning Israel. However, form the text it is possible to infer that Jesus "missed it."

18 In the morning, as he was returning to the city, he became hungry. 19 And seeing a fig tree by the wayside, he went to it and found nothing on it but only leaves. And he said to it, “May no fruit ever come from you again!” And the fig tree withered at once.

Now if Jesus never made a factual mistake and was fully walking in his omniscience here on earth we should assume he would have already known that the tree had no figs and therefore would not have approached it......right?
I believe he spotted the fig tree from a distance at first and then proceeded to inspect it as expected.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 6:52pm On Mar 15, 2015
TheFilmmaker:


You still don't get it.



The world is moving forward, and so you are...Check yourself, the laws in Leviticus, and the New Testaments. Ask yourself if you're following them.

You're just adamant to stone age.
OYO, on your own. All am interested in is for u to give me something i cant disprove ojari. Just here for the thrill of it.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by reaky(m): 10:02pm On Mar 15, 2015
Sibrah:
I believe he spotted the fig tree from a distance at first and then proceeded to inspect it as expected.


If so why would he say to d innocent tree
May no fruit ever come from you again


At times I don't understand the bible

I pray to understand
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Sibrah: 10:23pm On Mar 15, 2015
reaky:



If so why would he say to d innocent tree

At times I don't understand the bible

I pray to understand
Innocent tree. The tree was used as a reference to believer. Bible is filled with Parables and comparism so it is very easy to deduce the meaning of the part of the bible.
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by swisschris(m): 10:39pm On Mar 15, 2015
aaronson:
You see what yall see because yall don't want your illusion destroyed,you believe what yall believe because all your life,you have been around people you agree with.yes,you wish to waste your time in blindness because that's the true meaning of FAITH!!!! #ImProudAtheist

I see there is God nd I believe in HIS Supremacy, I know there are lots of principalities nd powers everywhere but one thing am certain is all creature will answer to one true God,who knows the date,time,nd year u 'll DIE! Nd will be waiting
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by reaky(m): 11:44pm On Mar 15, 2015
Sibrah:
Innocent tree. The tree was used as a reference to believer. Bible is filled with Parables and comparism so it is very easy to deduce the meaning of the part of the bible.

There are many things I still don't understand
About what d Bible says

God created heaven and earth
Created us in his own image
Knows our beginning and our end
Created adam and eve
Why did he allow satan to come and destroy them?
So he knows that day will come?

Why did he create heaven and earth with satan in it?


If I am a pharmaceutical company and my drugs made to heal starts killing people am I not responsible for it?
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by Nobody: 7:25am On Mar 16, 2015
swisschris:


I see there is God nd I believe in HIS Supremacy, I know there are lots of principalities nd powers everywhere but one thing am certain is all creature will answer to one true God,who knows the date,time,nd year u 'll DIE! Nd will be waiting
like I wrote earlier,these are the illusions you don't want destroyed!
Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by ooman(m): 8:56am On Mar 16, 2015
goshap:

you think,let assume so, what happened to verses like Mark11:1-14,where Jesus caused the fig tree, or mark 11:15'where he chased out the temple merchant with whips made from rope.

However, some flaws in Jesus life escaped the editors.

Jesus both did and said some things that are

1. Incredibly racist/ Xenophobic.

2. Lies or miscalculations. However, its a fault - which is what you asked for.

3. Male chauvinistic.

4. Disobedient/ disregard for his mum.

Points to support claims.


1. A woman needed help, went to him (Jesus). He told her that food that belong to children shouldn't be given to dogs.

Fault-
He called a woman a dog, which is purely chauvinistic.
He clearly showed that he didn't care about others but the Jews by referring to others as dogs and the Jews as children.
He displayed racism/xenophobia through the above point.
Mat 15v26.
seriously romans 5:13
English Standard Version
for sin indeed was in the world before the
law was given, but sin is not counted where
there is no law.
your using a twenty first century imperative to compare and contract the bible.from genesis to revelation the iseralite has been referred too as Gods people ,chosen especially by other race,nation and ethnicity . read your a hand full of races consider themselves subordinates to the children of iseral, special treatment and a sense of repect has been allocated to the children of iseral,clearly. back then certain races where considered slave worthy and certain races referred to as the elite.would yoi then say christ commited a sin by going by the order of things,when there was no clear cut law rebuking it?. A MAN PUTTING ON SKIRT IN OUR SOCIETY IS CONSIDERED IN APPROPRIATE, A MAN PUTTING ON THAT SAME SKIRT IN GERMANY OR IRE LAND IS CHEERED, whats the difference here. now the word dog there might be a representative of anything, slave,subordinate,undeserving,out of place,immoral ,unclean, wild,untamed etc, context in , context out which every one, its clearly a disregard, but a health disregard as you could see by the verse, the woman adhered to the it, and Jesus was not rebuke, even the bible created a clear cut distinction between the woman and everyone present by calling her The Syrophoenician Woman ( Canaanite )


2. A miscaculation. Jesus was wrong when he said if he didnt leave, the holy spirit cant come. John 16v7. Apparently, however, the holy ghost was already around, doing the good work of impregnating virgins (what a way to live). Matt 1v18. Luke 1v41.

Fault.
He miscalculated the time of the coming of the holy ghost.
even befor the birth of christ the holy spirit has occasionally appeared in the mist of the children of iseral, the question is AS WHAT DID/IS HE APPEARING AS?. HOLY SPIRIT THE IMPREGNATOR OR HOLY SPIRIT THE TEACHER,INTERCESSOR AND PROMISE
john 14:26
New International Version
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach
you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. ) OR HOLY SPIRIT THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF GOD (as seen in genesis).
or as holy spirit the strength of God ,as seen in the life of SAMSON.
note:The holy spirit is Gods expression in the mist of mankind,how he chooses to relate or communicate.



Fault 3 already supported in point 1.


4. Wedding at Canna- So there was a wedding and there was no wine and Jesus' mother told him that they had no wine and he rebuked her, saying "Woman, what have I to do with you". John 2v4.

Fault.
Perhaps his "hour" hadnt come for real but most of us know not to talk to our mother like that. In this, he showed a disregard for his mum.
.1.you said most of us , jesus is not most of us.. 2. you really should research the jewish custom with regards to women. if his regards to his mom at that time was dimmed wrong am pretty sure someone would have rebuked him, back then.

That something is not wrong in the culture one lives doesnt mean its not morally wrong.

Some cavemen have no problem with eating humans, does their culture justify the act?

That Jesus found no fault in the way things were is the greatest fault of his pathetic life.

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