what's the point hiding and playing the REGULAR brain hacking teraphy?
tell us simply: Your Jesus(the angel) was stakified and our Christ Crucified
You ever think of why people like me reject your teachings Its not cause something was preplanted in our heads by the catholic priests; thing trice

And by the way, I'll believe you on one condition:
Bonus; NWT allowed, PROVE TO ME FROM THE BIBLE THAT 1935 WAS THE YEAR 'ADMISSION' TO HEAVEN CEASED AS A RESULT OF BEING FILLED
if you cant you are worse than PAPAL

@Italo; « #15 on: October 11, 2011, 12:57 PM »
[Quote]@olabowale

Mohammed saw Jesus as a prophet of God, right? Let's assume for a moment that its true. So we are supposed to believe every word a prophet of God says, right?
So we believe everything Jesus told us, what's your problem with that?[/Quote]Including believing what Jesus didn't say but others say he said them? That is not believing what Jesus said. That is believing in farce.


@plappville « #16 on: October 11, 2011, 02:05 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: italo on October 11, 2011, 12:57 PM
@olabowale

Mohammed saw Jesus as a prophet of God, right? Let's assume for a moment that its true. So we are supposed to believe every word a prophet of God says, right?

So we believe everything Jesus told us, what's your problem with that?

I wonder ooo, he started by asking if God was trinity, now heading to critising and trying to condem a christian believe by persuading her to come to Islam. I am saying and will keep saying it.
Only a fool will backslide from christian and be converted to Muslim.[/Quote]And those who stick stubbornly to lies, what will you call them? is 3 not a lie when you say it is 1? What type of new math is that?


[Quote]Moha who they claim was announced by Jesus is now the one that even turn against Jesus.[/Quote]Plap, if the lies told against Jesus is rejected for and on behalf of Jesus, do you have problem in restoring Jesus to his rightful place? That restoration is what Muhammad [as] did.


[Quote]Is everythin not suposed to work out for good.? Muslims a jokers [/b]if they dont stop to deny Gods word.
[b]After Jesus no other prophet. Moha was a mere man like the @OP, sinner and always beg God for his commited sins and sins yet to commits by him. Jesus was perfect, [b]sinless [/b]despites all that he went through.[/Quote]You are truly a french woman. Sudenly jesus is a prophet and not God here. Can't we for once have stability in his identity? please dont make him a woman o. And in the Lord's prayer, Jesus said forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. A sinless asking for forgiveness? How perfect is that?


[Quote] Of course that was the reason why he came, to take away all our sins, if not he could insults or refused to die. He died willingly that we may have life.
Islam is not of God, they denies Gods command on human.[/Quote]And the eager to die Biblical Jesus turned around and blame God by complaining about how he was forsaken. What a person not refusing to die?


@Rich4god « #18 on: October 11, 2011, 08:16 PM »
[Quote]@op, We have only 1 God who revealed Himself to us in 3 different ways, thus TRINITY. In the old testament, He revealed Himself in a form we cannot see (ie thunder, fire, burning bush etc) we take that as God the father. In the new testament, He came in a human nature, as the son. And now, we all have the spirit of God working in us, thats God the Holy spirit. We do not have 3 God, bt rather we have 1 God who revealed Himself in 3 differnt ways.[/Quote]The changing God; is that what God is?


@chomynomy « #21 on: Yesterday at 09:48:46 AM »
[Quote] Smiley Of course, God is Trinity. God d Father, d Son & d Holy Spirit[/Quote]bro, give me 3 Billion Euros. I will pay you 1 Billion Euros, in combinations of check, bank draft and currency and that will be trinity style of payment.


@i.chuka « #22 on: Yesterday at 12:47:13 PM »
[Quote]For there are THREE that bear record in Heaven,the FATHER,the WORD,and the HOLY GHOST,and these THESE THREE ARE "ONE"-1jhn5:7.[/Quote]3 is 1? Wat kind of actuary is that? What do other gospel say about this important information? Nothing? I wonder if it ever was said by Jesus? Not.


@plappville « #24 on: Yesterday at 08:24
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sisi, did jesus say to you he came to take away your sins? remember you are from obodo 9ja.
Yes Jesus died for u and me so that we might be save, even if u re not ok with this, it still stands no modifying or changing it.
Wetin 9ja get to do with this? U self Grin Grin[/Quote]Remember that the miracle workers among you will be rejected. Then imagine the condition of the non miracle performers among you? Jesus didn't die for me. heck. I am certain that he didn't die.


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did jesus tell the guys that there is trinity, when he even prayed to one God?
So u dont know Grin Grin, see it below, no dey run away from the truth. Ok let me supply it to u.
The God of the christians is one God. The scripture gave a vivid prove of the TRINITY.
The [b]3 persons [/b]of the Godbody are noted in (Isaiah 48:16)“I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.” [b]The speaker of this verse is obviously GOD [/b]and yet he says, he has been sent (BOTH) by the lord God "the father" and by his spirit that is, "the holy spirit" One name (GOD) yet 3 names. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Much verses in the bible spoke of this Trinity.[/Quote]The speaker of this verse was Isiah! And obviously you didn't say isiah is God, but when Jesus spoke in the same manner of Isiah above, you say Jesus is God! You see how inconsistent you are? One rule for all, but a separate rule for Jesus.


[Quote]What an evident in (John 15:26) hear again where our Lord Jesus said: “But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father, He shall testify of me.” The son is talking, he will send to us a conforter own by his father(TRINITY) wht is confusing u about the GODHEAD trinity?[/Quote]Plappville, tell me you are are not so gullible that you didn't think that comforter that Jesus said he would sent was not part of the father, if there was a father? If Jesus was able to send the comforter, will you not at least ask if Jesus was actually capable of sending the comforter, the comforter can't be God and may actually be a prophet? But many have said that the comforter is Holy Ghost that got Mary pregnant being the father, instead of Yahweh on one hand and some argued that the comforter was Jesus trying to say that he has returned on the other hand, even though you are still waiting for his return to rapture you up [never will rapture happen. each of you shall grow old, old enough and die of]. The issue of comforter is so complex and confusing that christians have tried to compartmentalized it. They know they can't discuss all of it at a go without realizing how erroneous the argument really is. and in other gospels, Jesus was not the sender, but Jesus begged the father to send the comforter who was to finish what Jesus didn't [sisi, read the incomplete mission of Jesus and ask yourself; who completed everything?].


@lepasharon « #25 on: Yesterday at 08:36:47 PM »

the trinity has a pagan origin look it up, notice its nowhere in the bible?[quote][/Quote]Yah kno.


@plappville « #28 on: Yesterday at 10:23:34 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Jenwitemi on Yesterday at 08:57:24 PM
God is a family of three(Trinity); The Father, the mother whose name is Hollie Ghoste(she uses her maiden name because her husband does not have a surname, obviously), and the son. A daughter is on the way to make this bible God a family of four(Quartet) because Hollie Ghoste, the mother, is now pregnant with a baby girl. Wink Cheesy

Are u from this planet?? If yes[b] kindly eat that vomit of urs and beg him to 4give u for acting foolishly.[/b][/Quote]what a terribly way to seek recourse.


[Quote]« #31 on: Yesterday at 10:39:16 PM »
Even though, u still ve to eat that dirty vomit of urs, no offence to do that God will forgive u for this.[/Quote]This sisi is playing God, again. Its bad enough you are making Jesus to play God.

@Sweetnecta, She is God.

sweetnecta: the trinity has a pagan origin look it up, notice its nowhere in the bible?

If this is your believe, keep it to u!

what a terribly way to seek recourse.

He blasphemed against the holy spirit. I called him to eat back those words he vomited and asked God for forgiveness what is terrible here?

The speaker of this verse was Isiah! And obviously you didn't say isiah is God, but when Jesus spoke in the same manner of Isiah above, you say Jesus is God! You see how inconsistent you are? One rule for all, but a separate rule for Jesus.

God spoke through Isaiah. So it was God that spoke these words. Isaiah was a prophet, JESUS was and still the Messiah!!, Prophet Isaiah never compared himself with God or Jesus. He is not Mohamed, he spoke the truth prophecy about Jesus and it was accomplished.




One of his prophecy that answer your question is here,

(Isaiah 9:6)For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called[b]Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.[/b]

U read that??

The changing God; is that what God is?

I ve told u in the other thread i will no longer enlighten u on the TRINITY, u ve refused to accept it so let it be to like that.

You are truly a french woman. Sudenly jesus is a prophet and not God here. Can't we for once have stability in his identity? please dont make him a woman o. And in the Lord's prayer, Jesus said forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. A sinless asking for forgiveness? How perfect is that?

Jesus is not a prophet, if I said after JESUS no other prophet was to mean (no other one like him.) i ve never and will never call Jesus a prophet. He is the Messiah, that Mohamed included Jesus in his list of prophets is completely incorrect. Jesus wasn't a prophet. Peter recognized him as the Messiah, son of GOD.

(Matthew 16 :13-16) When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

   15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

Did Peter say he was a prophet? Sorry i am a Christian, If Jesus could Bless Peter for recongnizing his identity, then i should do the same to obtain his blessing. That Moha change Christ Identity in the Kuran, has nothing to do with Christ followers, instead, its the Muslims that gets burged to know that what they are taught about Jesus Christ is not what Jesus claim he is. Why on earth should u try to change some1 identity?

. And in the Lord's prayer, Jesus said forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. A sinless asking for forgiveness? How perfect is that?

When your child ask u, dad how do i do my home work? and u give him guard lines on how it should be done.
Does that means u are doing same homework as your son? OR does this make u be in same level with your son?

He taught his disciples how to pray, One of them came to him to teach them how to pray.
Read and understand, dont confuse urself.

Luke 11:1-13(KJV)

1And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.

2And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

3Give us day by day our daily bread.

4And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

(He is the bread of life) he will not ask himself for bread, (And forgive us our sins) he was not recorded with a sin, (But deliver us from evil)He is Holy and rightous, he do not need to be delivered from evil.
He taught them this prayer because he knew, he wont be with them all through. And they will pass through all the mentioned in the Prayer he had taught them.

Plap, if the lies told against Jesus is rejected for and on behalf of Jesus, do you have problem in restoring Jesus to his rightful place? That restoration is what Muhammad [as] did.

More grace to his elbows, 

And those who stick stubbornly to lies, what will you call them? is 3 not a lie when you say it is 1? What type of new math is that

Stuborn people are those, who can see the truth but still denies it.
Obviously, anyone who must know and understands how this MATHs operates, must be filled with the spirit of God. Because It is Gods Maths[b]TRINITY[/b]. I will not explain forther for this i ve told u earlier.

[Quote]
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The speaker of this verse was Isiah! And obviously you didn't say isiah is God, but when Jesus spoke in the same manner of Isiah above, you say Jesus is God! You see how inconsistent you are? One rule for all, but a separate rule for Jesus.
God spoke through Isaiah. So it was God that spoke these words. Isaiah was a prophet, JESUS was and still the Messiah!!, Prophet Isaiah never compared himself with God or Jesus. He is not Mohamed, he spoke the truth prophecy about Jesus and it was accomplished.[/Quote]And God also spoke through Jesus. Jesus was a prophet. A messiah is nothing but anointed. I hope you will your bible and if i am wrong, then call me out on anyone of them.


[Quote]One of his prophecy that answer your question is here,
(Isaiah 9:6)For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.[/Quote]no time was Jesus in his earthly life called any of these. It is after he was lifted up to heaven by his Lord that you guys began to call him whatever you call him. And he was never a governor or a head of any government. If Moses had lived after Isiah, he would have been perfect for it. So was David. So was Solomon. There was no government resting on the shoulders of Jesus in the presence of Herold. You know it and i know it. The shoulders were even too weak to carry the wooden posts, the reason they got Simon of Syrenne.


[Quote]U read that??[/Quote]I read that. But your are wrong. So the muslims will correct you because we are the followers of the another comforter with absolute truth to correct. Remember that the another comforter is charged with the ability to correct? Know that Jesus was a prophet from his own mouth and the mouths of the true disciples, not the fake one called Paul. And a prophet does not have honor in his home town. And son of man does not have a place to lay his head.


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The changing God; is that what God is?
I ve told u in the other thread i will no longer enlighten u on the TRINITY, u ve refused to accept it so let it be to like that.[/Quote] Alhamdulillah. I am wise enough not to accept your not telling me the truth.


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You are truly a french woman. Suddenly Jesus is a prophet and not God here. Can't we for once have stability in his identity? please dont make him a woman o. And in the Lord's prayer, Jesus said forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. A sinless asking for forgiveness? How perfect is that?
Jesus is not a prophe[/b]t, if I said after JESUS no other prophet was to mean (no other one like him.) i ve never and will never call Jesus a prophet. He is the Messiah, that Mohamed included Jesus in his list of prophets is completely incorrect. Jesus wasn't a prophet. Peter recognized him as the Messiah, son of GOD.[/Quote]It is either you or the disciples, a group is not telling the truth. Please leave Paul out if this, because you will open a can of worms that i do not want to talk about.


[Quote](Matthew 16 :13-16) When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one [b]of the prophets.”
15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.[/Quote]And where ever Jesus is called prophet in the Bible, we should now agree that whoever said it was a liar? Can you say Jesus and or his disciple[s] were lying when Jesus was called a prophet?


[Quote]Did Peter say he was a prophet? Sorry i am a Christian, If Jesus could Bless Peter for recongnizing his identity, then i should do the same to obtain his blessing. That Moha change Christ Identity in the Kuran, has nothing to do with Christ followers, instead, its the Muslims that gets burged to know that what they are taught about Jesus Christ is not what Jesus claim he is. Why on earth should u try to change some1 identity?[/Quote]Acts 3 verse 26 reads; New Living Translation (©2007)
When God raised up his servant, Jesus, [/b]he sent him first to you people of Israel, to bless you by turning each of you back from your sinful ways."
And who is the prophet of DEUT. 18:15, now that Jesus is said not to be a prophet, by you?
Matthew 13:57 [b]And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor."


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. And in the Lord's prayer, Jesus said forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. A sinless asking for forgiveness? How perfect is that?
When your child ask u, dad how do i do my home work? and u give him guard lines on how it should be done.
Does that means u are doing same homework as your son? OR does this make u be in same level with your son?
He taught his disciples how to pray, One of them came to him to teach them how to pray.
Read and understand, dont confuse urself.[/Quote]I guess I am not confused, but Jesus was also teaching people how to put their faces on the dirt to pray to God, when he was doing that all night long, crying and weeping and begging with it at gethsemane? You need to device a better way to not speak the truth.


[Quote]Luke 11:1-13(KJV)
1[b]And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place[/b], when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
2And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
3Give us day by day our daily bread.
4And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.[/Quote]Notice that he was praying on his own. I wonder what a God is praying for and to who? A bigger God? Then the small God is only a god, then. Or do you know the silent prayers [supplication] of Jesus other than what he taught his disciples? That tells you that apart from the salah that he demonstrated all nght long at gethsemane, he supplicated quietly, which he taught his disciples. We muslims supplicate in addition to making salah.


[Quote](He is the bread of life) he will not ask himself for bread, (And forgive us our sins) he was not recorded with a sin, (But deliver us from evil)He is Holy and rightous, he do not need to be delivered from evil.
He taught them this prayer because he knew, he wont be with them all through. And they will pass through all the mentioned in the Prayer he had taught them.[/Quote]But will ask The Real God for everything. You see those who pray in facial prostration and supplicate quietly are not God.

The Trinity is Pagan. LOOK .IT .UP!

Sweetnecta
And God also spoke through Jesus. Jesus was a prophet. A messiah is nothing but anointed. I hope you will your bible and if i am wrong, then call me out on anyone of them.

I am not in a do or die debate with u, a tipical kuran brain washed is in display. The socalled koran that cliamed the bible is currupted is yet the perfect book for the earth to believe.

no time was Jesus in his earthly life called any of these. It is after he was lifted up to heaven by his Lord that you guys began to call him whatever you call him. And he was never a governor or a head of any government. If Moses had lived after Isiah, he would have been perfect for it. So was David. So was Solomon. There was no government resting on the shoulders of Jesus in the presence of Herold. You know it and i know it. The shoulders were even too weak to carry the wooden posts, the reason they got Simon of Syrenne.

No time was he called? he was called these names before his birth, during his
days, after he died and even 600 yrs later when Mhammed was born, he was still called.
Mohamed came to correct this names as u said lols. I just laugh at how people play wit GOD.

I read that. But your are wrong. So the muslims will correct you because we are the followers of the another comforter with absolute truth to correct. Remember that the another comforter is charged with the ability to correct? Know that Jesus was a prophet from his own mouth and the mouths of the true disciples, not the fake one called Paul. And a prophet does not have honor in his home town. And son of man does not have a place to lay his head.

A son that could modify his father's identity falsely is a rebelion. He lacks wisdom. His father was befor him,
he did all kind of good and true works, only for him to come is to deny his fathers true identity.
This must make him an hero of course.
I know a conforter Jesus spoke about, is not Mohammed but the Holy spirit.
So many evidence in the bible explaining the relationship of the Holy Ghost, Mohammed didn't display or prove them.
A confroter shouldn't creat laws that order the killing of christians and pagan, how does this correct/confort?

Alhamdulillah. I am wise enough not to accept your not telling me the truth.

So be it with u as u said, no offence.

It is either you or the disciples, a group is not telling the truth. Please leave Paul out if this, because you will open a can of worms that i do not want to talk about.

U can open whatever, can it be worse than the Koran corrections etc.!!

And where ever Jesus is called prophet in the Bible, we should now agree that whoever said it was a liar? Can you say Jesus and or his disciple[s] were lying when Jesus was called a prophet?

U hold on to the (or one prophet) why not hold on to Jesus as "John the Baptist" or others that say "Elijah", or and still others, that say "Jeremiah"?? or one of the prophets.” if he was a prophet he would just say blessed to those that suggest prophet. instead, he persist to hear his identity from his disciples mouth,  u re the SON of God, the Messaiah. PETER spoke in the spirit while others where in flesh. Jesus knew his identity.

Acts 3 verse 26 reads; New Living Translation (©2007)
When God raised up his servant, Jesus, [/b]he sent him first to you people of Israel, to bless you by turning each of you back from your sinful ways."
And who is the prophet of DEUT. 18:15, now that Jesus is said not to be a prophet, by you?
Matthew 13:57 [b]And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor."

U see, u cant understand the bible if u read it in the flesh.
He was refaring to prophets in general. each time he speak of himself, he do say the son of man. U really want me to just accept that Jesus Identity is wrong? hahaha, this is unacceptable. U can keep debating on this like many Muslims out there.

I guess I am not confused, but Jesus was also teaching people how to put their faces on the dirt to pray to God, when he was doing that all night long, crying and weeping and begging with it at gethsemane? You need to device a better way to not speak the truth.

There are proofs of many prophets that sinned against God, they sins were seen and withnessed by men, but Jesus was not one of them, Again, he is not a prophet. He never sin nor begGed for forgiveness. even at his last breath, he still prayed to God to forgive them. This is a true divine love of God he has for humanity.

Notice that he was praying on his own. I wonder what a God is praying for and to who? A bigger God? Then the small God is only a god, then. Or do you know the silent prayers [supplication] of Jesus other than what he taught his disciples? That tells you that apart from the salah that he demonstrated all nght long at gethsemane, he supplicated quietly, which he taught his disciples. We muslims supplicate in addition to making salah.

He prayed to his FATHER OF COURSE and till now he is still praying for us.

But will ask The Real God for everything. You see those who pray in facial prostration and supplicate quietly are not God.

As an embodiment of God yes they do things in ways u cant understand. God's ways, is not our ways!.

@sweetness;THE BLIND ARE NOT DOES THAT DONT SEE,BUT,THOSE THAT DONT WISH TO SEE;JHN9:39

@I.Chuka ^^^; so the blind with eyes that do not see because of owner's bad focus or any other reason will say things that are inconsistent, so much so that they oppose the others;

examples; a time, Jesus will be God.
Another time, he will be Prophet.
Another time different from above, Jesus will be the another comforter, even though he said I will send him or beg God to send him.

Another time Jesus will be the Holy Spirit that he himself is greater than in the Trinity.
Another time, it is that very holy spirit that mounted and over shadowed Mary to produce Jesus.
Yet it is the father that is tagged with the baby, not the holy ghost who did the act of mounting and overshadowing.

Another time Jesus who is the God is crying begging God.
Yelling out in questioning God why He forsaken him.

The same Jesus some said set aside his Godship, while at the same time he is always God the maker.
And he said he can of his own power do nothing.


I see how blind can actually have eyes opened and see nothing.

Another time Jesus who is the God is crying begging God.
Yelling out in questioning God why He forsaken him.

The same Jesus some said set aside his Godship, while at the same time he is always God the maker.

And he said he can of his own power do nothing.

U believed he said these words ,yet u deny when he call himself SON OF GOD.?
Why didnt u say the contrary? (like, He didnt say these words, it was all Paul and christians that says it??)) u forbids Jesus claims as the saviour of the world, he didnt come to die for our sins etc. U ve to justify urself with the truth.

@sweetnecta,

Yes. You believe Jesus said "my God, my God, why have you forsaken me", but you don't believe that he said he was the Son of God. But both come from the Bible which you discredit. Isn't that hypocrisy?

Besides, you don't know what he meant by 'my God, my God, why have you forsaken me'. You can't understand the Bible because it wasn't addressed to you.

And when you don't know something, the sane thing to do is to swallow your misguided pride, admit you don't know and ask those who know, instead of spewing meaningless lines.

Human beings are definitely trinity beings, aren't they?
They consist of;
- The Spirit
- The Soul/Mind
- The Physical Body

@Italo; Is there any other meaning than the one you get when you literally read "my God, my God. . .why has Thou forsaken me?"?

No muslim have said that the Bible, though not revealed to any single Prophet, is 100% incorrect. We say that from it, we see parts of Tawrah, Psalm and Gospel revealed to their receiver prophets. Then we see addition that were added to these 3. And there are subtracted information [obviously not in the them [the Bible], or changed the words as to give other meanings].

We also know and it is obvious that it is false to accept that Jesus is son of God, even though you claim it for him. We see that in the times he should display his son relationship to God, he displayed his servant/prophet relationship to God [The Prayers at the Gethsemane and The My God, my God, . . . are two obvious examples]. It is not difficult to know that the statement that he is son of God is a forgery, a complete untrue statement.

Muslims say that it [The Bible] is corrupted because it is not 100% correct. We see Acts, and all after it as pure addition, adding to the initiate "Corruption" that we know within Tawrah of Moses, Psalm of David [at least with the declaration of Jeremiah accusing the Scribes/and the leadership of Israel of corrupting these two]. It is after these that Gospel was revealed to Jesus as he preached it just like Muhammad [as] preached The Quran.

But we see Jesus saying he was not Elijah but John was, which John denied. We see that neither John nor Jesus was "The That Prophet". Who was that Prophet if Muhammad [as] was not, the man Jesus prophesied to come as the another comforter to "Correct, guide, lead, tell and glorify" based on hearing from God?

You will agree that if the Gospel/New Testament is not corrupted, we will have to accept that on the day of Judgment, the 12 disciples judging the 12 tribes/nations of Israel will include Judas Iscariot. But the Christians say in the Bible that he committed suicide and I can't imagine a person who killed himself being a judge on the day of Judgment. {Or you already transfer his seat to another man?}.


I don't know why i need a teacher in something this clear to understand as untrue? Or do you think I am from the classification of what Jesus said about the disciples; people of little faith and lacking in understanding, seeking signs?

Italo wants me to play brain dead so that he can suck the false idea to me.

I can take care of myself, thank you. I don't need to be played like that.

@Italo, please watch what the Biblical Scholars are saying, below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ec0efQJMjg&NR=1

Sweetnecta:

@Italo, please watch what the Biblical Scholars are saying, below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ec0efQJMjg&NR=1

Who cares about Bible scholers? no time to read irrelevant links.
[size=14pt]JESUS IS THE LORD OF LORDS, THE PRINCE OF PEACE, THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. THIS IS THE TRUTH ![/size]

^^

Thank You Jo.

These false prophets, they need help !!

@Italo of course you have no time to read!!! Readers of plappville's post and posts by other Christians. Please note that sending links with complicated logical explanations to Christians is doing a great disfavor to you. Reading and discovering other "truths" is seriously discouraged. I would highly recommend breaking down your points into short verses and get right to the point.

Posted by: plappville
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Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 02:47:31 PM
@Italo, please watch what the Biblical Scholars are saying, below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ec0efQJMjg&NR=1

Who cares about Bible scholers? no time to read irrelevant links.
JESUS IS THE LORD OF LORDS, THE PRINCE OF PEACE, THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. THIS IS THE TRUTH !