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How Right Is Eternal Security?pts3(once Saved Always Saved?) by lanrezion01: 4:17pm On Apr 17, 2015
HOW RIGHt IS ETERNAL SECURITY?Pt3

The proponents of eternal security believe that a Christian cannot go to hell no matter what he/she does. They also advocate that once you're saved, you're forever saved and cannot lose your salvation. Below are some of their beliefs.

3- We cannot die If we have eternal life. John11:26.

Yes, we cannot die if we have eternal life and I believe it because the scripture say so but looking at other scriptures, we know that if you are not walking in love, the bible said such a fellow abideth in death. 1John3:14-15. To be balanced in doctrinal subjects, one must compare scriptures with scriptures and interprete a particular scripture in the light of another. You don't build doctrines on a verse and start a conference on it.

There are believers who claim that they are living in the reality of eternal life yet, they live in hatred. You must note that whatever the scripture has said about us as new creations MUST NOT be in contrast to our life style. The 'ES' teachings have played-down on the issue of Christian life style and doesn't have regard for holy living. I once heard a popular American preacher asking 'If God said without holiness no man shall see the Lord?'. Holy living is non-negotiable.

4-' The gifts of God Are without repentance. Rom11:29.

That implies that God can't take his gift from anyone he gives it. I've also said previously that we shouldn't base doctrinal beliefs on just a verse of the scripture because it is against the law of bible interpretation.

What did Jesus say in Luke 19:26? 'For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.'

So, when you read Rom11:29 in Isolation and you don't compare it with the scripture above, the truth remains hidden. I hope you know that Judas Iscariot would have been a part of the Apostolic council in the early church but because he voluntarily sold out to the devil, he lost his place amongst the twelve and he lost it. Remember, he was with Jesus during his earthly ministry but he made a choice to fall out.


To be continued...
Re: How Right Is Eternal Security?pts3(once Saved Always Saved?) by Scholar8200(m): 5:00pm On Apr 17, 2015
lanrezion01:
HOW RIGHt IS ETERNAL SECURITY?Pt3

The proponents of eternal security believe that a Christian cannot go to hell no matter what he/she does. They also advocate that once you're saved, you're forever saved and cannot lose your salvation. Below are some of their beliefs.

3- We cannot die If we have eternal life. John11:26.

Yes, we cannot die if we have eternal life and I believe it because the scripture say so but looking at other scriptures, we know that if you are not walking in love, the bible said such a fellow abideth in death. 1John3:14-15. To be balanced in doctrinal subjects, one must compare scriptures with scriptures and interprete a particular scripture in the light of another. You don't build doctrines on a verse and start a conference on it.

There are believers who claim that they are living in the reality of eternal life yet, they live in hatred. You must note that whatever the scripture has said about us as new creations MUST NOT be in contrast to our life style. The 'ES' teachings have played-down on the issue of Christian life style and doesn't have regard for holy living. I once heard a popular American preacher asking 'If God said without holiness no man shall see the Lord?'. Holy living is non-negotiable.

4-' The gifts of God Are without repentance. Rom11:29.

That implies that God can't take his gift from anyone he gives it. I've also said previously that we shouldn't base doctrinal beliefs on just a verse of the scripture because it is against the law of bible interpretation.

What did Jesus say in Luke 19:26? 'For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.'

So, when you read Rom11:29 in Isolation and you don't compare it with the scripture above, the truth remains hidden. I hope you know that Judas Iscariot would have been a part of the Apostolic council in the early church but because he voluntarily sold out to the devil, he lost his place amongst the twelve and he lost it. Remember, he was with Jesus during his earthly ministry but he made a choice to fall out.


To be continued...
@ op, you are right. Let me add: If there was eternal, unconditional security why:
1. did the Lord Jesus give the parable of the 10 virgins? five were wise and five foolish.
2. did the Lord Jesus constantly warn us to be watchful and to take heed to ourselves? was it an April fool stunt where no danger actually existed?
3. did the Holy Spirit inspire Paul to write of some believers who will rise up to teach damnable heresies? and Peter said their damnation slumbereth not, while Jude stated that the blackness of darkness is reserved for them. Since this is so why did these apostles say this if those believers-turned- false prophets had eternal,unconditional security? Is this, eternal sec, a selective privilege of some then?
4. did the Spirit declare that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith(of course while holding fast to religion- churchianism) giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils?
5. did Jesus say woe unto that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed, it were better for that man never to have been born?

These are days when most 'believers' are no different from antinomians - Christ has died for me so I can go on sinning and forgiveness unlimited is mine for the asking!Indeed they would be shocked to hear what Christ had to say in Revelations 2 and 3. These are the type Paul referred to when he was inspired to write," for many walk,of whom I have told you often and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ (i.e. they say self-denial is a gospel of works, when Christ taught and emphasized self-denial and bearing the cross daily!) whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly (fleshly desires) and whose glory is in their shame (ever heard people describing their unclothedness as glory of 'god' others claim we should glory in our sins which they call 'infirmities'?!!!) who mind earthly things (Phil. 3:18,19).

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