Bobbysworld28:

Thanks for twisting scripture so terribly. Shame!

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8vs32.

is there even a hell?

Etogist:




You are one of those that encourage evil in the church. How can you be defending what is so glaring?

If you have lost the joy of your salvation, and the enthusiasm that goes with the gathering of brethren together, I havent lost mine. I still have faith that the church is the last hope of humanity, and we must rise up to that challenge, and not destroying it on the social media. Be the change you want to see. Start from your local assembly, not on nairaland.

Truth be told, if you confess to being a Christian and you dont know God for yourself and the Bible and the Holy Spirit of God, some of what etcetera just wrote will lead you astray. In essence, know God for yourself and let the spirit reveal truth to you. Matthew 24:12, 2timothy3:13.

honourhim:


Yea. What u believe in cannot change anything. It cannot make God to stop existing and it cannot wipe away the lake of fire. U can only believe or disbelieve but u cant run away from the consequences of your belief/choice.

Neither can you bro.

This ectera guy should pls shut up for once. He is too desperate for publicity. Guy if u dnt have any meaningful thing to write abt pls shut d hell up

sukkot:
the funny part is that these people dont understand that satan is a word which simply means ' adversary to God ' and that in the later days a nation of people will emerge who will be SATAN. many people think satan is some invisible entity that is in the spirit world causing havoc. the greatest trick satan ever pulled is making people believe he does not exist. many people dont know that SATAN in the bible is talking about the white man and his reign on earth and how he will deceive many people and lead them to hell. he is doing a good job. now everyone is getting rich or dying trying. all a concoction of satan called capitalism. and people are getting rich or dying trying in these churches he has concocted. all these people have the mark of the beast in their foreheads ( they now think like the white man. its all about wealth, s-e-x, and debauchery and hedonism ) and their right hand ( their deeds ). so satan is doing an effective job as prophesied leading many to destruction.

I like ur tot process. Recently I rejected the church things ,what is ur view about life after death?

joseph1832:
That is if there is a Hell at all!.

I keep asking that!

Using the 3major religions islam, christianity and "hinduism"

If u don't believe in jesus; hell awaits u according to christians.

If u aint a moslem ; hell awaits u, also,

I suppose if u aint a hindu worshiper, hell also awaits u.

So which Is the true way; given the fact that if I was born in kano by northerners I'll be a moslem.

What is religion?

A way to control the masses ?

just here to read comments.....

einsteino:
hehe i just love this guy. he speaks his mind regardless of who it will hurt. today you may love his write up only to find out that his tomorrow write up is set up to nail u. what is important is that he speaks his mind and many times his analysis aren't wrong.

i was born in assemblies of God, later on i moved to church of God mission and finally became a catholic. back then catholic church never preached tithe giving, of course the rev fathers after spending over 15years in the seminary couldnt pretend to know it wasn't applicable to the church of christ. but as soon as the Pentecostals turned tithing into a huge fund raiser, the catholic priests copied it and till date pretend as though it has been the practice of the church since day 1. my advice to Christians is to read the bible yourselves, not in verses but as a book from generation down to revelation. only then would you find the truth for yourselves and you would realize how wrong we have all gone

Sorry to say but we do not copy in d catholic church. Tithing has been there since time immemorial but not pronounced until recently

Brotherman:




listen to the message not the messenger ." a gold remains a gold irrespective of whom holds it" even if he is a "mad" man what matters is the message. my own take no disrespect pls

Brotherman:




listen to the message not the messenger ." a gold remains a gold irrespective of whom holds it" even if he is a "mad" man what matters is the message. my own take no disrespect pls

Brotherman:




listen to the message not the messenger ." a gold remains a gold irrespective of whom holds it" even if he is a "mad" man what matters is the message. my own take no disrespect pls

SORRY I DIDNT EVEN READ BEFORE COMMENTING

Apina:

Sorry to say but we do not copy in d catholic church. Tithing has been there since time immemorial but not pronounced until recently

lol please lets be honest. i am catholic, in the 90s did you ever see any catholic church announce tithe during mass? there is no denying that the modern day nigerian catholic church is less of what it used to be. the rot in the church does not know denomination and covering it up is like taking part in it

JigsawKillah:
This is really great at least some else shares the same view as me but my question remains: what is the right way?


P.S I'm not an atheist

"ISLAM" IS THE WAY, THE ORIGINAL UN-POLLUTED VERSION OF CHRISTIANITY,

fyneboi79:
I like ur tot process. Recently I rejected the church things ,what is ur view about life after death?

yeah church is nonsense. well life after death is a topic covered extensively but COVERTLY in the bible. you need to have read the whole book to understand it. and this is how it goes. there are two components to a man. his flesh and his spirit. in actuality there is no such thing as dying. what you are doing is transforming. now the flesh dies but the spirit is energy and energy does not die and can neither be destroyed and in that energy is your consciousness and who you are. the flesh is simply a hard drive that the spirit projects your consciousness into. so your flesh is just meat and is useless. you are your spirit and not your flesh. so you when your flesh dies, your spirit returns to the spiritual realm to await the next deployment to earth. this is called reincarnation. you are born as a baby into a new body. so you return to earth again every 3rd or fourth generation.

In the beginning, satan came as a serpent to plant seeds of doubt in the mind of Eve. Now, the same satan comes as Etcetera to plant fruits of doubt. I can't remember where God said the deceived will not make heaven. I only know he said the deceiver will not. So how does it concern this failed musician if christians are deceived or not? Many christians will make heaven not by their good deeds, but by GRACE. The thief that was cruxified along with Christ, all he did was admit that Christ was d truly the son of God, and Christ, through GRACE, told him he'll surely sit beside him in heaven. This was a thief who had done all kinds of evil.
Etcetera, have you asked urslf where u'll end up? U're just a blind man telling others they'll end up blind.

I almost wanted to meet him at your points of argument....God bless you my broda

@OP I go to church not because of the pastor or the exquisite and trendous effect but it is for the WORD......

mentorandfriend:
Let me correct you sir, because it is articles like this that point fingers at the church in order to destroy us, but it profers no solution at the end of the tirade.


You lied. There were evidences of church meetings in the Acts of the Apostles. The 120 disciples were in the Upper room praying. It was not someone's house. Ananias and Saphira dressed up to go to church and lie to the Holy Spirit, and Peter was the minister that day. Ushers carried their dead bodies out. There was a large church in those days that the apostles appointed seven deacons.

About denominations, the persecution of the early church caused people like Stephen to run to Samaria. a new ministry was born there. I believe the persecution was a grand plan by God to scatter the church all over the world, beyond Jerusalem.


Well, John the beloved Apostle used it in III John vs 2. I wish you above all things that though mayest prosper.
Remember that John said that it was the same things they heard from Jesus that they were declaring. I John 1vs 1-4.

When has old testament ceased being a part of the scriptures?
Of course he is. That is why you are not dead already. John 10vs10. I have come that you may have life more abundantly.
Anything unscriptural you find today in a church means that the original still exists. There are still people getting it right. You know that too well. Stop generalising.
Just attend RCCG'S HolyGhost Congress any last friday of your choosing, or attend Shiloh in Canaanland. Thousands are still giving their lives to christ.

That you are not experiencing it in your assembly does not mean it does not happen again. Visit RCCG's redemption camp for HolyGhost congress. What you will see will shock you. We are in the last days and these are the days of massive outpouring of His Spirit. Its happening.

God meets us at the level of our expectation. May be you go to church as a routine. You will never experience that touch of God. I'm about to enter the bathroom and prepare for church, and I'm doing it with expectation of what new thing God will do in my life today. Church is not a routine for me.

Please next time, dont generalise things about the church of God. We are marching forward, and the gates of hell will never prevail against us.
Thank you.

Religion according to Karl Marx, is the opium of the society. I stopped reading your article after the third line due to the fact that u don't even hv a profound knowledge of what u intend to address. Ur points are not totally thrash but most of them are. I think u need to read the right books and speak to the right ppl cos ur fallacy of hasten generalization which is imminent all through ur write up leaves me guessing if u actually know the rubrics of Christianity holistically and not just perpetuating incessant innuendos thereby confusing the shallow minded who simply attend church. Lastly, never use ur experience as the foundation for judging others.

Religion according to Karl Marx, is the opium of the society. I stopped reading your article after the third line due to the fact that u don't even hv a profound knowledge of what u intend to address. Ur points are not totally thrash but most of them are. I think u need to read the right books and speak to the right ppl cos ur fallacy of hasten generalization which is imminent all through ur write up leaves me guessing if u actually know the rubrics of Christianity holistically and not just perpetuating incessant innuendos thereby confusing the shallow minded who simply attend church. Lastly, never use ur experience as the foundation for judging others. If u r a candidate for hell, y not go prepare for it.

*I didn't read all that,

*it is not "MIGHT".
*church is the "SUREST ROUTE" to HELL.
*i ve seen,seen seen and then I refused to keep seeing.
*the church we have today is not the type brought to us by the missionary.

einsteino:



lol please lets be honest. i am catholic, in the 90s did you ever see any catholic church announce tithe during mass? there is no denying that the modern day nigerian catholic church is less of what it used to be. the rot in the church does not know denomination and covering it up is like taking part in it

What do u know about d catholic church? Attending a catholic church doesn't make one a catholic as much as standing in a mechanic shop makes one a mechanic. And mind u, I haven't heard or seen a priest having to call u from ur seat to compulsively give tithe. Emphasis or not, d right to give lies with u.

AbuMikey:
Bar My Atheistic view about religion, The Church in all Honesty, is actually leading Millions to Hell!

Are you an atheist? How did you reach that status?

Apina:
Religion according to Karl Marx, is the opium of the society. I stopped reading your article after the third line due to the fact that u don't even hv a profound knowledge of what u intend to address. Ur points are not totally thrash but most of them are. I think u need to read the right books and speak to the right ppl cos ur fallacy of hasten generalization which is imminent all through ur write up leaves me guessing if u actually know the rubrics of Christianity holistically and not just perpetuating incessant innuendos thereby confusing the shallow minded who simply attend church. Lastly, never use ur experience as the foundation for judging others.

You just spoke my mind bro...

AbuMikey:
Bar My Atheistic view about religion, The Church in all Honesty, is actually leading Millions to Hell!

If there really is hell

What does the Holy Quran say about Jesus (peace be upon him)

Most of the following was gathered from the foot notes of the Holy Quran that I have. It is translated and documented by Minister Abdullah Yusuf Ali.

Muslims believe that Jesus peace be upon him according to the Holy Quran is a wonderful, humble, generous messenger of God who came down and revealed God's words to his people, the people of Israel. Muslims do not believe that Jesus is God, nor they believe that God ever chose to come down to earth in a form of a man to die for our sins to purify us and forgive us.

According to Islam, Jesus never died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was born to die on the cross. Muslims believe that Jesus was sentenced to death, and people thought that he got executed on the cross. The Holy Quran rejects this idea, and claims that it is a false one. Jesus never died on the cross, nor he ever died for anyone's sins. Let us look at what the Holy Quran (The Muslims Holy Scripture) says about this issue:

Let's look at verse 4:156-159 "That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge; That they said (in boast): 'We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.' But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjunction to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them." The false charge against Mary was that she was unchaste. Such a charge is bad enough to make against any woman, but to make it against Mary, the mother of Jesus, was to bring into redicule Allah's power itself. Islam is specially strong in guarding the reputation of women. Slanderers of women are bound to bring four witnesses in support of their accusation, and if they fail to produce four witnesses, they are be flogged with eighty stripes and debarred forever from being competent witnesses.

Let us look at verse 24:4 "And those who launch A charge against chaste women, And produce not four witnesses (To support their allegations) Flog them with eighty stripes; And reject their evidence Ever after: for such men Are wicked transgressors. Unless they repent thereafter And mend (their conduct); For Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful." Here we see in this Holy Verse how much Allah Almighty cares about not criticizing women unless we are absolutely sure about it and we can provide at least 4 witnesses to support our allegation.

Now in 4:156-159 above "......Nor crucified him,....."

The end of the life of Jesus on earth is as much involved in mystery as his birth, and indeed the greater part of his private life, except the three main years of his ministry. It is not profitable to discuss the many doubts and conjectures among the early Christians sects and among Muslims theologians. The Orthodox-Christian Churches make it a cardinal point of their doctrine that his life was taken on the Cross, that he died and was buried, that on the third day he rose in the body with his wounds intact, and walked about and conversed, and ate with his disciples, and was afterwards taken up bodily to heaven. This is necessary for the theological doctrine of blood sacrifice and vicarious atonement for sins, which is rejected by Islam. But some of the early Christian sects did not believe that Christ was killed on the cross. The Basilidans believed that someone else was substituted for him. The Docetate held that Christ never had a real physical or natural body, but only an apparent or phantom body, and that his crucifixion was only apparent, not real. The Marcionite Gospel (about A.C. 138) denied that Jesus was born, and merely said that he appeared in human form. The Gospel of St. Barnabas supported the theory of substitution on the Cross. The Quranic teaching is that Christ was not crucified nor killed by the Jews, not with standing certain apparent circumstances which produced that illusion in the minds of some of his enemies; that disputations, doubts, and conjectures on such matters are vain; and that he was taken up to Allah Almighty.

Let us look at verse 3:55 "Behold! Allah said: O Jesus! I will take thee And raise thee to Myself And clear thee (of the falsehoods) Of those who blaspheme; I will make those Who follow thee superior To those who reject faith, To the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, And I will judge Between you of the matters wherein ye dispute." Here we see that Allah Almighty promised Jesus peace be upon him to raise him to heaven. Jesus was charged by the Jews with blasphemy as claiming to be God or the son of God. The Christians (except a few early sects which were annihilated by persecution, and the modern sect of Unitarians), adopted the substance of the claim, and made it the cornerstone of their faith. Allah Almighty clears Jesus of such a charge or claim. Those who follow Jesus are the Muslims and the Christians who don't believe he is God. All of the controversies about dogma and faith will disappear when we appear before Allah. He will judge not by what we profess but what we are.

In 4:156-159 "......Nay Allah raised him up Unto Himself....."

There is a difference of opinion as to the exact interpretation of this verse. The words are: The Jews did not kill Jesus, but Allah raised him up (rafa'ahu...in Arabic) to Himself. Some people hold that Jesus did not die the usual human death, but still lives in the body in heaven, which is the generally accepted Muslim view. Another hold that he did die but not when he was supposed to be crucified, and that is being "raised up" unto Allah means that instead of being disgraced as a malefactor, as the Jews intended, he was on the contrary honoured by Allah Almighty as His Messenger. The same word (rafa'a) is used in association with honour in connection with Al Mustafa (Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him).

Let us look at verse 94:4 "And raised high the esteem (In which) thou (are held)?". The prophet's (any prophet) virtues, the magnanimity of his character, and his love for mankind were fully recognized even in his lifetime, and his name stands highest among the heroic leaders of mankind.

Let us also look at verse 37:119 "And We (Allah) left (this blessing) for them among generations (To come) in later times: Peace and salutation To Moses and Aaron! Thus indeed do We reward Those who do right." Here we see how Allah Almighty rewards Moses and Aaron peace be upon them. They are considered his messengers.

In 4:156-159 ".....But must believe in him (Jesus) Before his death...."

Those who hold that Jesus did not die say that Jesus is still living in the body and that he will appear just before the Final Day, when the world will be purified of sin and unbelief. There will be a final death before the final Resurrection, but all will have believed before that final death.

In 4:156-159 ".....He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them."

Jesus will be the witness of his people and his contemporaries for those who accept Allah, and against those who reject Him.

Let us look at verse 4:41-42 "How then if We brought From each People a witness, And We (Allah) brought thee As a witness against These People. On that day those who reject faith and disobey the Messenger will wish that the earth Were made one with them: But never will they hide A single fact from Allah !" Here in this Holy Verse we see that Allah Almighty will judge people based on what their messengers had told them. Allah Almighty sent to nations and tribes prophets and messengers to direct those people from the darkness of Satan, to the light of Allah Almighty.

Let's look at verse 3:59 "The similitude of Jesus Before Allah is as that of Adam; He (Allah) created him (Jesus) from dust, Then said to him: Be. And he was." After a description of the high position which Jesus occupies as a prophet, we have a reputation of the dogma that he was Allah, or the son of Allah, or anything more than a man. If it is said that he was born without a human father, Adam was also so born. Indeed Adam was born without either a human father or mother. As far as our physical bodies are concerned, they are mere dust. In Allah's sight Jesus was a dust just as Adam was or humanity is. The greatness of Jesus arose from the Divine command "Be", for after that he was. He also was a great spiritual leader.

Let's look at verse 4:171-172 "O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say Of Allah ought but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) A Messenger of Allah, And His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and the Spirit proceeding From Him: so believe In Allah and His Messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: It will be better for you: For Allah is One God: Glory to Him: (Far Exalted is He) above Having a son. To Him (Allah) Belong all things in the heavens And on earth. And enough Is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.

Christ disdaineth no To serve and worship Allah, Nor do the angels, those Nearest (to Allah): Those who disdain His worship and are arrogant, He will gather them all Together unto Himself (Jesus) to (answer)."

In 4:171-172 ".....Commit no excesses in your religion....."

Just as a foolish servant may go wrong by excess of zeal for his master, so in religion people's excesses may lead them to blasphemy or a spirit the very opposite of religion. The Jewish excesses in the direction of formalism, radicalism, exclusiveness, and rejection of Christ Jesus have been denounced in many places. Here the Christian attitude is condemned, which raises Jesus to an equality with Allah; in some cases venerates Mary almost to idolatry; attributes a physical son to Allah; and invents the doctrine of the Trinity, opposed to all reason, which according to the Athanasian Creed, unless a man believes, he is doomed to hell forever.

Let us look at verse 11:110 "We (Allah) certainly gave the Book To Moses, but differences Arose therein: had it not been That a Word had gone forth Before from thy Lord, the matter Would have been decided Between them: but they Are in suspicious doubt Concerning it." Previous revelations are not to be denied or dishonoured because those who nominally go by them have corrupted and deprived them of spiritual value by their vain controversies and disputes. It was possible to settle such disputes under the flag, as it were, or the old Revelations, but Allah's Plan was to revive and rejuvenate His Message through Islam, amongst a newer and younger people, unhampered by the burden of age-old prejudices.

Let us look at verse 10:19 "Mankind was but one nation, but differed (later). Had it not Been for a Word That went forth before From they Lord, their differences Would have been settled Between them." All mankind was created one, and Allah's Message to mankind is in essence one, the Message of Unity and Truth. But as selfishness and egotism got hold of man, certain differences sprang up between individuals, races, and nations, and in His infinite Mercy He sent them messengers and messages to suit their varying mentality, to test them by His gifts, and stir them up to emulation in virtue and piety.

When men began to diverge from one another, Allah made their very differences subserve the higher ends by increasing their emulation in virtue and piety, and thus pointing back to the ultimate Unity and Reality.

In 4:171-172 ".....Say not "Trinity": desist....."

Christ's attributes are mentioned:

1- That he was the son of a woman, Mary, and therefore a man.

2- But a messenger, a man with a mission from Allah, and therefore entitled to honour.

3- A word bestowed on Mary, for he was created by Allah's word "Be" (kun....in Arabic), and he was.

4- A spirit proceeding from Allah, but not Allah. His life and his mission were more limited than in the case of some other Messengers, through we must pay equal honour to him as a prophet from Allah.

The doctrine of Trinity, equality with Allah, and sonship, are repudiated as blasphemies. Allah is independent of all needs and has no need of a son to manage His affairs. The Gospel of John in the Bible has put in a great deal of Alexandrine and Gnostic mysticism round the doctrine of the Word (Greek, Logos), but it is simply explained in the Holy Quran.

In 4:156-159 ".....To serve and worship Allah....."

Christ often watched and prayed, as a humble worshipper of Allah; and his agony in the Garden of Gethsemane was full of human dignity, suffering, and self-humiliation.

In 4:156-159 ".....He (Jesus) will gather them all together unto Himself To (answer)."

The disdainful and the arrogant are the crew of Satan, who will be gathered together before the Supreme Throne for punishment.



Does the Noble Quran in Verse 19:33 confirm Jesus' crucifixion?

Here is what Noble Verse 19:33 states: "So peace is upon me [Jesus] the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life." Trinitarian Christians believe that Jesus was GOD Himself, or part of GOD, came to earth, was crucified on the cross to purify our sins and then raised from death back to life and went up to heaven until he will come back again to this earth. The Noble Quran does not in anyway support this theory!. We Muslims believe that Jesus was born from a Noble Virgin; Mary the Virgin, preached the word of GOD to the people of Israel, raised to Allah Almighty alive (even though he might have been put on the cross, but never actually died), will come back to earth again to fight the army of Satan and then die a natural death and then be raised again back to life from death as we all do in the Day of Judgement. Some Muslim scholars say that Jesus not being crucified in Noble Verse 4:157 means that he was put on the cross but didn't die, and others say that it means that he was not put on the cross itself and never died either. There are some Christian sects such as the Basilidans, the Docetate and the Marcionite do not believe that Jesus was put on the cross.

Either way, it doesn't really matter whether he was put on the cross or not. The more important point is that Jesus never died according to Islam. There is a similar Verse to 19:33 in the Noble Quran that was mentioned to another Messenger of GOD: "So peace on him [Yahya, or John the Baptist] the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life! (The Noble Quran, 19:15)" This Noble Verse (19:15) is similar to 19:33, where it does not at all state that any Messenger of GOD was crucified or will die twice!. The reason why no Messenger of GOD will ever die twice is because Allah Almighty said clearly in His Noble Book that every soul He creates (this includes all of His Messengers and Prophets even Jesus) shall taste death once; "Nor will they [all humans who end up in heaven] there taste death, except the first death; and He will preserve them from the penalty of the blazing fire. (The Noble Quran, 44:56)".

dre11:


As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore and repent. – Revelation 3:19.



http://www.punchng.com/columnists/etcetera/the-church-is-leading-you-to-hell/

Apina:
Religion according to Karl Marx, is the opium of the society. I stopped reading your article after the third line due to the fact that u don't even hv a profound knowledge of what u intend to address. Ur points are not totally thrash but most of them are. I think u need to read the right books and speak to the right ppl cos ur fallacy of hasten generalization which is imminent all through ur write up leaves me guessing if u actually know the rubrics of Christianity holistically and not just perpetuating incessant innuendos thereby confusing the shallow minded who simply attend church. Lastly, never use ur experience as the foundation for judging others. If u r a candidate for hell, y not go prepare for it.

Please what is the connection between Karl Marx's quote and your submission here? Am finding it hard to decipher why you brought in that quote?

MizTyna:


If there really is hell

Are you a sceptic? You are actually doubting hell- eternal damnation.

Ahmeduana:

"ISLAM" IS THE WAY, THE ORIGINAL UN-POLLUTED VERSION OF CHRISTIANITY,

Are you sure? Unpolluted? I don't think so. It advocates the killing of human beings (Allah's Precious Gifts) and as such violates Allah, who is EVER MERCIFUL.

Apina:

What do u know about d catholic church? Attending a catholic church doesn't make one a catholic as much as standing in a mechanic shop makes one a mechanic. And mind u, I haven't heard or seen a priest having to call u from ur seat to compulsively give tithe. Emphasis or not, d right to give lies with u.

ok u r more catholic than me, perhaps more than the pope too. it appears this is just my word against urs. should i make a video recording when i go for evening mass today, when the announcer would call for tithe in the presence of the priest? would that be convincing enough?

PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE
by Dr. Zakir Naik


Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:

The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:

"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".


1.
MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:


Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.

If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.

However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):


i)

Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.

[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]


ii)
Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.

iii)
Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158)


Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).

Words in the mouth:

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

[Deuteronomy 18:18]


iv)
Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).

v)
Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."

iv)
Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).

2.
It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19


"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."


3.
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:


It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:

"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".


4.
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:


Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."

In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.


Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:

Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "

All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.


1.
John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

2.
Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:

"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

3.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:


"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.

Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).


4.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".

The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.




Reference: http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/index.htm

Mopolchi:
Are you a sceptic? You are actually doubting hell- eternal damnation.

I'm agnostic. Tending towards atheism tho

truth penetrate like an arrow,& it's likely to hurt...well said brother

Mopolchi:
Please what is the connection between Karl Marx's quote and your submission here? Am finding it hard to decipher why you brought in that quote?

have u read Karl Marx' write up on d aforementioned quote? I guess not. When u read it, perhaps u will see d connection and then we cn actually get to talk but before then, I choose not to answer ur question.