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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Emmasonic4me: 1:31pm On Jun 14, 2015
...and the overseer of one church like that will give his sheep aprons to wear claiming its bullet proof but he will wear his own and enter bulletproof car... grin grin grin

Pastors deceiving the gullible...smh

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Dani4tech(m): 1:35pm On Jun 14, 2015
emrain:


very true. esp in AG
shocked Na u talk am o...
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jun 14, 2015
Dani4tech:
shocked Na u talk am o...
I was once their customer. so na me talk am.

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by egopersonified(f): 1:54pm On Jun 14, 2015
My church just started asking those with their tithe to step out, this is a church I have being attending for over five years, though different branches. And I know the pastor is watching those like me that have never stepped out, I am just waiting for him to ask me one day, make me give am my own version of tithing.

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by brocab: 2:00pm On Jun 14, 2015
Lets pray, the pastor favours you and call you up.
Lets pray you are already wearing your full armour of God, ready to share the truth about the tithing law how it was abolished back then, and abolished still today.
Lets pray the people realise we are not Jews but Gentiles.
Lets pray, man will repent and come back to the Lord, asking for their forgiveness, knowing they have ripped of God's people in tithes and offerings.
Lets pray, the Holy Spirit will open the doors for you to share all scriptures.
Lets pray, the Lord will shut the Loins mouth, so you can finish your sermon in word and in truth, allowing God's people to see and hear what the bible says' we are no longer under the tutor of the law, but rather under Christ, as He had risen.
Lets pray, the truth will set them free.
Amen
egopersonified:
My church just started asking those with their tithe to step out, this is a church I have being attending for over five years, though different branches. And I know the pastor is watching those like me that have never stepped out, I am just waiting for him to ask me one day, make me give am my own version of tithing.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Goshen360(m): 2:03pm On Jun 14, 2015
egopersonified:
My church just started asking those with their tithe to step out, this is a church I have being attending for over five years, though different branches. And I know the pastor is watching those like me that have never stepped out, I am just waiting for him to ask me one day, make me give am my own version of tithing.
.... grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Goshen360(m): 2:04pm On Jun 14, 2015
Emmasonic4me:
...and the overseer of one church like that will give his sheep aprons to wear claiming its bullet proof but he will wear his own and enter bulletproof car... grin grin grin

Pastors deceiving the gullible...smh

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by honourhim: 2:10pm On Jun 14, 2015
Emmasonic4me:
...and the overseer of one church like that will give his sheep aprons to wear claiming its bullet proof but he will wear his own and enter bulletproof car... grin grin grin

Pastors deceiving the gullible...smh

grin grin grin grin
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by brocab: 2:26pm On Jun 14, 2015
There will be that time the Lord will show you the truth-until them keep up the good work and pay as you will.
If tithing was for man kind the Lord would have shown us in deed and in truth, from a child to a man.
Without scriptures, man has decided to change the word of God-more for pleasure, then for the likes of saving mankind.
If God wanted us to be rich in cash, then no man in God's kingdom would suffer dying in a flash? cool
gregzone:
OP is right but not entirely. Tithing is an obligation to God, its not GIVING! Its like paying your tax and its meant to bring meat into God's house.
Now OP is right giving to the poor is also another variation of giving and just like others it has its own rewards. But that doesn't mean that you won't or can't give to your pastor/prophet, there is an offering called Prophet offering and it also has its own reward.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Lantosed: 3:20pm On Jun 14, 2015
People don dey open eye small, I just trust myself no asshole fit deceive Bible and those lies. #lordhavemercy
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by uboma(m): 3:23pm On Jun 14, 2015
starlingslimnet:
True my brother. Where I fellowship we pay tithe and as the treasurer 100% goes to the conference Instead of the church retaining the money and spending it on the poor in our street. As for me Instead of giving my money to be used to feed pastors who are supposed to be feeding themselves like the Apostles I had rather find a Good message online and make tracts of it to distribute to people.


You have very valid points but are you still the treasurer to a corrupt system?
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Lantosed: 3:26pm On Jun 14, 2015
starlingslimnet:
True my brother. Where I fellowship we pay tithe and as the treasurer 100% goes to the conference Instead of the church retaining the money and spending it on the poor in our street. As for me Instead of giving my money to be used to feed pastors who are supposed to be feeding themselves like the Apostles I had rather find a Good message online and make tracts of it to distribute to people.
Imagine thAT
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Vikthor(m): 3:45pm On Jun 14, 2015
Seconded
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Vikthor(m): 3:46pm On Jun 14, 2015
abtmaviz:
I'm loving this
Seconded
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by loadedmax(m): 3:53pm On Jun 14, 2015
starlingslimnet:
The scripture dear Apostle Paul said "But we work with our bare hands that we may not bother you" again "We earns our Living by Ourself"

Yes ooo. No man of God was ever jobless. None waited for tithe to feed instead they gave to the needy.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nyceguy92: 5:13pm On Jun 14, 2015
[quote author=honourhim post=34511845]When pastor tells you to give a sacrificial offering to God today, a violent offering, a painful offering that will cost you much in order to prosper, pls give that offering to a brethren in need of it. Giving to God is not only when you give to pastor/church, dont be deceived. When you give to the least of the brethren you have giving to God. Again i say dont be deceived.


[b]Matthew 25:37-40

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it


I am not a strong proponent of tithes.

I prefer to give my money, etc, directly to those who need them.

If you pay the school fees of a pupil or repair the leaking roof of a widow, that's tithing for me, period.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by honourhim: 6:10pm On Jun 14, 2015
jadajada:
Just give according to the dictate of your heart.

Yes its biblical. Here is it-

2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by deb(m): 6:47pm On Jun 14, 2015
elantraceey:



Give me the scripture please and I'll show you where he thanked the Philippians for there gift and supplies that they always sent to him and for taking care of him and he added it was for their good.

Well we were not told that Apostle Paul coerced anybody to give. Rather he thanked them for giving him gift
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Barnabaseloka(m): 7:31pm On Jun 14, 2015
[b][/b] The problems of MOST pastors of these days are 'idleness' and 'laziness'.

Idleness in the sense of not working to feed themselves and their families, but depend on the church for salaries, payment of children's school fees, fueling of their automobiles, payment of house rents, etc..

Laziness in the sense that they will not want to engage in any work that will fetch them money, but only church work. They claim they are called by God to work in the church only. Are they called more than the early apostles that worked and yet preached the gospel?

They should go and earn their own living as Peter and Paul wrote in the Scriptures. Why will they not coerce their gullible members into parting with their hard-earned money when they have no source of livelihood, aside church?
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by BLOTRS: 7:32pm On Jun 14, 2015
Giving in Church has never been compulsory...or has a pastor ever forced you to give before? it's a personal choice...so i think this thread is unnecessary.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by honourhim: 8:31pm On Jun 14, 2015
BLOTRS:
Giving in Church has never been compulsory...or has a pastor ever forced you to give before? it's a personal choice...so i think this thread is unnecessary.

Its either you are deceiving yourself with what you wrote or that you are ignorant of what is going on in churches today.

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Adaeze003(f): 9:10pm On Jun 14, 2015
Hero10001:

Babe, It's not by force to give and GOD doesnt need your money to be God.
Giving a N1m uncheerfully could be a sin too.
Either you give or not, the gospel will progress.
It's your choice, even pagans, budda, hindu, ifa, etc bring forth offerings to their gods,

Actually, the only question I asked you was "where is God's house?"

Now, its good to give but not with the wrong orientation.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by urchmanx(m): 9:47pm On Jun 14, 2015
I will tell this story. A friend of my as an agent sold a piece of land. And ten % of it is 300k. That was on Friday so he brought home the money against paying tithe on Sunday. On Saturday his neighbor wife was hospitalized as she was pregnant and had complication. The Neigbour came to him and begged for help. The amount of money needed for the doctors to commerce treatment is the same amount of money he brought home. He called his pastors and explained the situation and asked if its a sin. The pastor even nearly cursed him saying tithing should never be used for any thing other than tithing. Thank God for that day as God opened my friend eyes and he took that man and paid for the hospital bills. Today that woman is alive with the kid. For me I share my 10% to all the windows and needy in my community. No one tells me shit. This was the same verse that saved me and my friend. No pastor is from the tribe of the Levites. And no one is worthy to have my title. Jesus never paid tithe and focused more on the great commission. I feel more blessed when I help people than when I pay tithe. For those of you that will say any nonesense quoting me. I contribute more to my church in fact this Xmas I have planned on building a living quarters for the pastors of my local church and I have an Ngo running under the church paying for school fees of 3 kids every year under my mothers memorial. And nothing the pastors have not done to convince me to pay my tithe to them. I am not giving them my hard earn money. Everyone needs dollar. Not my.

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by honourhim: 7:10am On Jun 15, 2015
deb:


Well we were not told that Apostle Paul coerced anybody to give. Rather he thanked them for giving him gift

He never coerced anybody as we see some of our pastors do today.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Hero10001: 8:23am On Jun 15, 2015
Adaeze003:

Actually, the only question I asked you was "where is God's house?"
Now, its good to give but not with the wrong orientation.
God's house?! It's our body.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by donodion(m): 8:37am On Jun 15, 2015
honourhim:


In the early church, offerings were shared to every man according to their needs and no man lacked anything but in our time offerings are pastors personal property. Is that right?

Acts 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

Correct!!!.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Trafficjam11: 7:14am On Jun 16, 2015
manutdrichie:


Are you saying they should steal to run the church?

Do you know that Some workers in the church are been paid salaries?

How will you listen to the word of God in a church that there is no fan or air conditioner?

There are churches wt so many overflows outside d church, speakers n television are needed
My brother to spread the gospel this days is quite expensive


Why exactly did you choose to reason this way?

Were the apostles or elders in the early church paid?

Did christ or the apostles charge people to give till it hurts? Did they not do it willingly without being cajoled and inspired?

Fan Or Airconditioner?? Really??

The apostles gathered and preached to thousands without the above and there was no sky fall,

Even your bible says Christ spoke to thousands without televisions and speakers, and it had more effect than what we see today.

The deception has found its way to your heart. To put it mildly.

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Barnabaseloka(m): 9:36am On Jun 16, 2015
manutdrichie:


Are you saying they should steal to run the church?

Do you know that Some workers in the church are been paid salaries?

How will you listen to the word of God in a church that there is no fan or air conditioner?

There are churches wt so many overflows outside d church, speakers n television are needed
My brother to spread the gospel this days is quite expensive
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Barnabaseloka(m): 9:38am On Jun 16, 2015
manutdrichie:


Are you saying they should steal to run the church?

Do you know that Some workers in the church are been paid salaries?

How will you listen to the word of God in a church that there is no fan or air conditioner?

There are churches wt so many overflows outside d church, speakers n television are needed
My brother to spread the gospel this days is quite expensive
P/s wake up for you are still in the dream land. Why will some workers be paid, leaving out other workers? What about the choristers, the prophets, the children teachers, the ushers, the prayer members, etc.? Is pastoral work now a job that demands payment or salaries? Pastoral work,like other church works, is a gift from God and has to be done freely. If pastors want to be paid, let them go and work (not in the church) to earn their living. Church is not a business venture. This is totally different from members appreciating their pastors through gifts. Both the pastors and the other members need to work to contribute to the growth of the church.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 12:17pm On Jun 16, 2015
uboma:



You have very valid points but are you still the treasurer to a corrupt system?
Am resigning bro...but do you have any idea on how to make the rest understand this Truth?
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by uboma(m): 1:49pm On Jun 16, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Am resigning bro...but do you have any idea on how to make the rest understand this Truth?


Have you told your members your views on the matter? if not, please do. And if they fail to change for the better, then you should tender your resignation and please make them understand the reason for your action.

Cheers
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 4:31pm On Jun 16, 2015
Dani4tech:
Mid-way tru their serm0n some of them will come up with s0mething like..."Oh! Lord...they can't do it,ur children can't do it,n0body here can do it...*speaking in tongues*"
Then the members will be like... "what is this that we can't do?"
He'll now say..."the Lord has decided to bless 5 members this week but he wants to test their faith...all he needs is 50k each!" you'll now see the rich m0fos going up the pulpit to show-off... angry
#L0RD_4give me for not going to church 2day embarassed

grin LMAO!!!!!!!

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