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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jun 16, 2015
egopersonified:
My church just started asking those with their tithe to step out, this is a church I have being attending for over five years, though different branches. And I know the pastor is watching those like me that have never stepped out, I am just waiting for him to ask me one day, make me give am my own version of tithing.

Wah sere baby yi! I like you joh.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 4:38pm On Jun 16, 2015
manutdrichie:


Are you saying they should steal to run the church?

Do you know that Some workers in the church are been paid salaries?

How will you listen to the word of God in a church that there is no fan or air conditioner?

There are churches wt so many overflows outside d church, speakers n television are needed
My brother to spread the gospel this days is quite expensive

Run which church abeg? Do you run a Church? A church is a body, not a business or a building.

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jun 16, 2015
uboma:



Have you told your members your views on the matter? if not, please do. And if they fail to change for the better, then you should tender your resignation and please make them understand the reason for your action.

Cheers
Have told them bro they seems not to understand.Think when i resign they will understand more
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 5:36pm On Jun 16, 2015
hifaif:


Run which church abeg? Do you run a Church? A church is a body, not a business or a building.
I tire for these Christains oo

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by honourhim: 5:39pm On Jun 16, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Am resigning bro...but do you have any idea on how to make the rest understand this Truth?

Put your points in print (in form of a tract) and share to people to read. Tell them the biblical standard of givung in the early church and how the one u people are doing runs contrary to it. This is information age, SAY NO TO WRONG PRACTICES IN CHRISTIANITY.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 5:46pm On Jun 16, 2015
honourhim:


Put your points in print (in form of a tract) and share to people to read. Tell them the biblical standard of givung in the early church and how the one u people are doing runs contrary to it. This is information age, SAY NO TO WRONG PRACTICES IN CHRISTIANITY.
will do that bro.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by uboma(m): 6:22pm On Jun 16, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Have told them bro they seems not to understand.Think when i resign they will understand more


Since they have failed to change for the better, by all means quit the job. Whats the point supporting a cause that defrauds others?

Note that your leaving may have little or no effect on them. Such people have sold their consiences to the devil himself.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by manutdrichie(m): 6:36pm On Jun 16, 2015
hifaif:


Run which church abeg? Do you run a Church? A church is a body, not a business or a building.

Talk true....how much do you drop as offering?
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by simdam500(m): 12:24pm On Jun 17, 2015
Very good
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by BreezyRita(f): 2:13pm On Jun 17, 2015
starlingslimnet:
True my brother. Where I fellowship we pay tithe and as the treasurer 100% goes to the conference Instead of the church retaining the money and spending it on the poor in our street. As for me Instead of giving my money to be used to feed pastors who are supposed to be feeding themselves like the Apostles I had rather find a Good message online and make tracts of it to distribute to people.


Good. There are different kinds of offerings my dear. A lot of them. That you give to the church doesn't mean you shouldn't hive to the needy and vice versa. You give as you are led by the Spirit and not as you're urged by your pastor and all. Giving should be a thing between you and God.
And the apostle Paul didn't always feed himself dear. The church sent and ministered to his needs. That doesn't make him lazy. Its written.
Remember this: "He that gives to a prophet receives the prophet's rewards".

If you don't give to him, no, even if no one gives anything to a real man of God, his Father is more than able to provide for him.

One should be happy that he's a vessel used to bless others, irrespective of title!
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by BreezyRita(f): 2:32pm On Jun 17, 2015
hifaif:


Run which church abeg? Do you run a Church? A church is a body, not a business or a building.


Let's see this.
In the days of the early Christians, they were quite few of them and they usually fellowshipped in a room. But a time cane when they were multiplied. Of course, using that 'room' was out of the question. Moving to a larger place was the next step.
It ever occurred to you that people donated things in those days to make Christianity get to us?
Likewise, we must do all we can to get it going.

Aside from that, we are to be transformed by the renewing of our mind.... Romans 12:2
1 Corinthians 2:14

A large percentage of God's people are confused. We reason too much. Causing our mind to revolve around a situation, issue, attempting to understand all its intricate component parts. We are reasoning when we dissect a teaching to see if it is logical and disregard it if is not. The Lord may direct us to do a certain thing, but if it is sensible - it isn't logical we may be tempted to disregard it.
This isn't saying be gullible. No! But with the help of the Spirit of truth, you'll be able to discern the will of God. Or what He says in a situation.

Giving has become such a topic of debate in our age.
Hear this: If you're not compelled in your spirit. To give anything! Then don't!
Don't give and start complaining. And if you're not giving, then don't think the people giving stupid!!

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 3:03pm On Jun 17, 2015
BreezyRita:



Good. There are different kinds of offerings my dear. A lot of them. That you give to the church doesn't mean you shouldn't hive to the needy and vice versa. You give as you are led by the Spirit and not as you're urged by your pastor and all. Giving should be a thing between you and God.
And the apostle Paul didn't always feed himself dear. The church sent and ministered to his needs. That doesn't make him lazy. Its written.
Remember this: "He that gives to a prophet receives the prophet's rewards".

If you don't give to him, no, even if no one gives anything to a real man of God, his Father is more than able to provide for him.

One should be happy that he's a vessel used to bless others, irrespective of title!
I understand you perfectly well yet you seems to be speaking on Gifts. Giving something to someone is a gift but being fed on the tithe and offerings of the saints is a No in the early church. Read my writings again and understand things

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Nobody: 3:11pm On Jun 17, 2015
BreezyRita:



Let's see this.
In the days of the early Christians, they were quite few of them and they usually fellowshipped in a room. But a time cane when they were multiplied. Of course, using that 'room' was out of the question. Moving to a larger place was the next step.
It ever occurred to you that people donated things in those days to make Christianity get to us?
Likewise, we must do all we can to get it going.

Aside from that, we are to be transformed by the renewing of our mind.... Romans 12:2
1 Corinthians 2:14

A large percentage of God's people are confused. We reason too much. Causing our mind to revolve around a situation, issue, attempting to understand all its intricate component parts. We are reasoning when we dissect a teaching to see if it is logical and disregard it if is not. The Lord may direct us to do a certain thing, but if it is sensible - it isn't logical we may be tempted to disregard it.
This isn't saying be gullible. No! But with the help of the Spirit of truth, you'll be able to discern the will of God. Or what He says in a situation.

Giving has become such a topic of debate in our age.
Hear this: If you're not compelled in your spirit. To give anything! Then don't!
Don't give and start complaining. And if you're not giving, then don't think the people giving stupid!!

Your assumption are wrong dear... whatever we say here should be rooted in the Scripture less it becomes a lie. You said the early church were few in number ryte? What. happened to the three thousand won? what about the testimony of the Spirit in Acts 6:1? The early church were in number multiplied daily.

Giving is not the problem what is used for is the problem. We are saying it should be used for it's purpose which is helping the poor and promoting the Gospel. If this is done The world will .be conquered for God

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by BreezyRita(f): 5:28pm On Jun 17, 2015
starlingslimnet:
I understand you perfectly well yet you seems to be speaking on Gifts. Giving something to someone is a gift but being fed on the tithe and offerings of the saints is a No in the early church. Read my writings again and understand things


What exactly do you feel should be done with tithes?? Evangelism?? What were the offerings of the early church used for??
Bro, let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
Gods ways are not our ways. Isaiah 55:8
The Gospel is being preached to the glory of God. We are not where we were 100 years ago. No. 20 years ago.
BTW, there's something like missionary offering you know.



starlingslimnet:
Your assumption are wrong dear... whatever we say here should be rooted in the Scripture less it becomes a lie. You said the early church were few in number ryte? What. happened to the three thousand won? what about the testimony of the Spirit in Acts 6:1? The early church were in number multiplied daily.
Giving is not the problem what is used for is the problem. We are saying it should be used for it's purpose which is helping the poor and promoting the Gospel. If this is done The world will .be conquered for God

It all began in the upper room right?? Eleven. And then they were 120 then. Read Acts 1:15.

Now, how can a Christian give and wonder what he's given is being used for?? Its wrong.

Except you're in a church where their aim isn't to depopulate the kingdom of darkness, to reconcile men unto God, to spread the Goodnews. Even so, the church's soul winning isn't yours. What are you doing for the spread of the Gospel. Do you realize the there are people right where you are who need Jesus.
Whether the devil wants it or not, the Word will reach the uttermost parts of the earth.

Everyone will be judged individually. No one will be saved because of the church. So if you feel the church isn't responsible anymore, it doesn't mean you should be irresponsible too.

My advice: Do what is your part and let God handle the rest. Don't try to reason it. It doesn't have to make sense to you.
Shalom!
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by honourhim: 8:41am On Jun 21, 2015
^^^^ dont satisfy your pastor's greed in the name of supporting church work. A good christian should be able to discern when a pastor is preaching out of greed and out of the spirit concerning giving.

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Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by brocab: 8:57am On Jun 21, 2015
A good Christian should be a bereans, one who test all scriptures, studying the word of God-Testing all Spirits.
honourhim:
^^^^ dont satisfy your pastor's greed in the name of supporting church work. A good christian should be able to discern when a pastor is preaching out of greed and out of the spirit concerning giving.
Re: Dont Be Deceived In Church Today Brethren. by Random75: 10:47am On Jun 21, 2015
Dani4tech:
Mid-way tru their serm0n some of them will come up with s0mething like..."Oh! Lord...they can't do it,ur children can't do it,n0body here can do it...*speaking in tongues*"
Then the members will be like... "what is this that we can't do?"
He'll now say..."the Lord has decided to bless 5 members this week but he wants to test their faith...all he needs is 50k each!" you'll now see the rich m0fos going up the pulpit to show-off... angry
#L0RD_4give me for not going to church 2day embarassed
Chai!!! grin
Dani4tech:
Mid-way tru their serm0n some of them will come up with s0mething like..."Oh! Lord...they can't do it,ur children can't do it,n0body here can do it...*speaking in tongues*"
Then the members will be like... "what is this that we can't do?"
He'll now say..."the Lord has decided to bless 5 members this week but he wants to test their faith...all he needs is 50k each!" you'll now see the rich m0fos going up the pulpit to show-off... angry
#L0RD_4give me for not going to church 2day embarassed
Chai!!!

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