Well,this is not meant to be an argumentative quibbling on words rather a disposition to learning from one another. But,
As usual my rules are:

"All answers must be supported by Scriptural evidence(Cos thy word is Truth)

"Contributions should be done in the Spirit of humbleness"

While

"Questions should be ask in Spirit of gentleness"

Won't comment as such but I will be contributing to the thread somehow...

So guys share your views keeping in mind the rules. God bless.

So I will like to call Eleantrancy,tallesty1,Sassybae,Mavisguy,Ishilove,Ladyboss,Cutehector and those I can't remember there Monika vividly....

Princecalm:
since humans are not perfect, sin will surely be committed knowingly and unknowingly.

Oops......Thanks for coming brother..... I had want you to attach a Scripture to that point you made up there to establish your words as Truth....

starlingslimnet:
Oops......Thanks for coming brother..... I had want you to attach a Scripture to that point you made up there to establish your words as Truth....

are you in a way saying until I attach a quote from the Bible, it won't be considered as true?

Princecalm:
are you in a way saying until I attach a quote from the Bible, it won't be considered as true?

"Test everything and hold to that which is true" This we do by the Scripture....you know brother Christ said, "Consecrate them in the Truth thy [b]word[/b]is Truth" and again he said of the devil "For he is a lier and the fathers of lies" the question arise,"what makes him a lier? and the Scripture answered when Christ Said "For he speak according to his own nature" and Thus the Spirit says "No lie is of the Truth" and what then is Truth? Thy word is Truth.Meaning,anything not found in the Scripture is a lie from Satan. For this reason brother I request you add Scriptural evidence to establish your words not for thy own sake but for the sake of the readers.

starlingslimnet:
"Test everything and hold to that which is true" This we do by the Scripture....you know brother Christ said, "Consecrate them in the Truth thy [b]word[/b]is Truth" and again he said of the devil "For he is a lier and the fathers of lies" the question arise,"what makes him a lier? and the Scripture answered when Christ Said "For he speak according to his own nature" and Thus the Spirit says "No lie is of the Truth" and what then is Truth? Thy word is Truth.Meaning,anything not found in the Scripture is a lie from Satan. For this reason brother I request you add Scriptural evidence to establish your words not for thy own sake but for the sake of the readers.

still can't figure out why you are skeptical about my post, I made a plain statement there and you are asking me to quote the scriptures.

Nah. I cant, buh will always ask God for forgiveness when I sin

starlingslimnet:
So I will like to call Eleantrancy,tallesty1,Sassybae,Mavisguy,Ishilove,Ladyboss,Cutehector and those I can't remember there Monika vividly....

Princecalm:
still can't figure out why you are skeptical about my post, I made a plain statement there and you are asking me to quote the scriptures.

What if I make this plain statement "No one is saved by Grace" will you believe because it's a plain statement?

Sassybae:
Nah. I cant, buh will always ask God for forgiveness when I sin

Thanks for coming dear.....

Let me get something clear... are you saying in a way, sin have dominion over you in saying you can't?

Hmmm not really, buh nobody's above sin not even my pastor, buh what really matters is when we realize ourselves and reconcile with God

starlingslimnet:
Thanks for coming dear.....

Let me get something clear... are you saying in a way, sin have dominion over you in saying you can't?

See as evrybody jus dey form holier dan thou dey preach bible for person.. Kai..


Na only psalm 51 I sabi sha...

starlingslimnet:
What if I make this plain statement "No one is saved by Grace" will you believe because it's a plain statement?

yes I will.

Sassybae:
Hmmm not really, buh nobody's above sin not even my pastor, buh what really matters is when we realize ourselves and reconcile with God

perhaps you have read this verse in the Scripture.... Romans 7:14 "For Sin will no longer have dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace"....don't you think dear,this,contradicts the statement in bold?

Princecalm:
yes I will.

Then you have just believed a lie,haven't you?

Cutehector:
See as evrybody jus dey form holier dan thou dey preach bible for person.. Kai..


Na only psalm 51 I sabi sha...

Oga cutehector and joviality sha..... Tell bro What's your view on this matter cause I see you quoting a whole chapter which might take a thousand year to unravel

starlingslimnet:
Then you have just believed a lie,haven't you?

it is not a lie, except you don't except you don't understand what that means.

Princecalm:
it is not a lie, except you don't except you don't understand what that means.

It's a lie cause it's not in the Bible.... you had believe that if you are not a Christain.

starlingslimnet:
It's a lie cause it's not in the Bible.... you had believe that if you are not a Christain.

it still holds that what you sow, that shall you reap. Grace doesn't just come how you are thinking.

starlingslimnet:
Oga cutehector and joviality sha..... Tell bro What's your view on this matter cause I see you quoting a whole chapter which might take a thousand year to unravel

well its very possible and not possible for christains to live without sinning.. Its in two ways now... The possibility of christains being chaste while living is when the recognize first, their bodies are the temple of the holy spirit.. And d possiblility of christains not bein chaste while living is when they abuse the abundant grace of God and continue doing whatever wills of them..

Now the most important thing is this, sinners and righteous are loved totally by the father. Being able to recognize that one is a sinner is a first step to righteousness..

In other words, I know the fact that I am a sinner, and thus, as I strive for perfection, I live without sin.!




Cc; starlingslimnet, ladyboss1, amakabaybee, sinaj, sassybae, tosyne2much etc

Hmmm,yea, buh I still believe nobody's above sin, its just the grace to overcome

starlingslimnet:
perhaps you have read this verse in the Scripture.... Romans 7:14 "For Sin will no longer have dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace"....don't you think dear,this,contradicts the statement in bold?

Cutehector:
well its very possible and not possible for christains to live without sinning.. Its in two ways now... The possibility of christains being chaste while living is when the recognize first, their bodies are the temple of the holy spirit.. And d possiblility of christains not bein chaste while living is when they abuse the abundant grace of God and continue doing whatever wills of them..

Now the most important thing is this, sinners and righteous are loved totally by the father. Being able to recognize that one is a sinner is a first step to righteousness..

In other words, I know the fact that I am a sinner, and thus, as I strive for perfection, I live without sin.!




Cc; starlingslimnet, ladyboss1, amakabaybee, sinaj, sassybae, tosyne2much etc

Gained something from there Hector.... Still, I will like to ask on which terms do you consider yourself a sinner?

Thanks for those you called hope they respond

Sassybae:
Hmmm,yea, buh I still believe nobody's above sin, its just the grace to overcome

But sweetheart,the. Scripture just said you have overcome sin in that verse...Isn't that supposed to be your Final Faith and believe?

Cutehector:
well its very possible and not possible for christains to live without sinning.. Its in two ways now... The possibility of christains being chaste while living is when the recognize first, their bodies are the temple of the holy spirit.. And d possiblility of christains not bein chaste while living is when they abuse the abundant grace of God and continue doing whatever wills of them..

Now the most important thing is this, sinners and righteous are loved totally by the father. Being able to recognize that one is a sinner is a first step to righteousness..

In other words, I know the fact that I am a sinner, and thus, as I strive for perfection, I live without sin.!




Cc; starling.slimnet, lady.boss1, amaka.baybee, sinaj, sassy.bae, tosy.ne2much etc

You are right bro

The bible even said it in the book of Psalm51vs5 "that behold I was broughtforth in iniquity and in sin did my mother concieve me, so u see dear I believe only jesus is perfect and is above sin

starlingslimnet:
But sweetheart,the. Scripture just said you have overcome sin in that verse...Isn't that supposed to be your Final Faith and believe?

Sassybae:
The bible even said it in the book of Psalm51vs5 "that behold I was broughtforth in iniquity and in sin did my mother concieve me, so u see dear I believe only jesus is perfect and is above sin

Of course,quite well....we are brought up in iniquity and iniquity are we. conceived and I think Christ said something like this in the Book of John chapter 8 "You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free"...it's true we are brought up in iniquity but the Spirit never says perhaps I never read "We are to continue in slavery to sin"

If I may ask dear.....the Scripture you quoted does it apply to one before Christ met him or after Christ met him? cos I read Thus "If anyone be in Christ Old things have passed away everything has become new"

starlingslimnet:
Gained something from there Hector.... Still, I will like to ask on which terms do you consider yourself a sinner?

Thanks for those you called hope they respond

wen I go contrary to d commandments of God and not asking for his mercy... Only then, will I consider myself a sinner.

Am learning bro

Cutehector:
wen I go contrary to d commandments of God and not asking for his mercy... Only then, will I consider myself a sinner.

Kindly bear with my questions.... If am getting you clearly bro are you in a way saying A Christain is a sinner if he persist in Sin?

Hehe sweetheart am not good @quoting bible verses.

starlingslimnet:
Of course,quite well....we are brought up in iniquity and iniquity are we. conceived and I think Christ said something like this in the Book of John chapter 8 "You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free"...it's true we are brought up in iniquity but the Spirit never says perhaps I never read "We are to continue in slavery to sin"

If I may ask dear.....the Scripture you quoted does it apply to one before Christ met him or after Christ met him? cos I read Thus "If anyone be in Christ Old things have passed away everything has become new"

buh ave got 1question for you, what's the essense of God giving us the knowledge bouh doing wrong things when he knows we can't be perfect nd still judging us by that

Dear, In the garden when God made man...

Sassybae:
Hehe sweetheart am not good @quoting bible verses.buh ave got 1question for you, what's the essense of God giving us the knowledge bouh doing wrong things when he knows we can't be perfect nd still judging us by that

He made him without knowledge of good and evil....man had no knowledge of what is good or what is bad until Satan came to tempt Eve. At creation man was perfect in nature.

So he,Satan used a serpent to deceive Eve who ate the fruit of Knowledge of good and evil gave the same to Adam who took and ate it.They ate because they don't have knowledge that they are disobeying God.

So human chose for himself to have the knowledge of good and evil... and sin is all about evil so sin at work in man made them do evil and not God.But Lo and behold God declare Christ should be slain for the sins of man right in the garden of Eden.

So sweetheart mi, God didn't give us the knowledge of good neither did he give us the knowledge of evil... we gave ourself that ...we chose it ourself... only after we have eaten do we learn we have been scammed by Satan.... that we have entered one chance..

Hmmm,u knw the bible says God knw the end frm the beginning(dunno if am correct tho)he knew someday eve would eat that fruit,y then did he put it there

starlingslimnet:
Dear, In the garden when God made man... He made him without knowledge of good and evil....man had no knowledge of what is good or what is bad until Satan came to tempt Eve. At creation man was perfect in nature.

So he,Satan used a serpent to deceive Eve who ate the fruit of Knowledge of good and evil gave the same to Adam who took and ate it.They ate because they don't have knowledge that they are disobeying God.

So human chose for himself to have the knowledge of good and evil... and sin is all about evil so sin at work in man made them do evil and not God.But Lo and behold God declare Christ should be slain for the sins of man right in the garden of Eden.

So sweetheart mi, God didn't give us the knowledge of good neither did he give us the knowledge of evil... we gave ourself that ...we chose it ourself... only after we have eaten do we learn we have been scammed by Satan.... that we have entered one chance..

the bible is just too complicated,u read verses like,1 can't live without sin nd u check the other one,u see we can live without going astray