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Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by twosquare(m): 11:41pm On Jul 18, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Well,this is not meant to be an argumentative quibbling on words rather a disposition to learning from one another. But,
As usual my rules are:

"All answers must be supported by Scriptural evidence(Cos thy word is Truth)

"Contributions should be done in the Spirit of humbleness"

While

"Questions should be ask in Spirit of gentleness"

Won't comment as such but I will be contributing to the thread somehow...

So guys share your views keeping in mind the rules. God bless.
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. HEB 11:5
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 11:42pm On Jul 18, 2015
Of course sweetheart, no denying that,God knows all things and that,
Sassybae:
Hmmm,u knw the bible says God knw the end frm the beginning(dunno if am correct tho)he knew someday eve would eat that fruit,y then did he put it therethe bible is just too complicated,u read verses like,1 can't live without sin nd u check the other one,u see we can live without going astray
is why He make a redemption plan before the foundation of the world that the Son who in heaven was known as the WORD should come in flesh and condemn sin by living a sinless life and die on the cross nd by means of of his death anyone who believes in the Son receives freedom from sin.

Sweetheart mi, God is not the author of confusion Satan is....The Bible dear,does not contradicts in any way....they all fits in together and talk about one person, Christ.That is why the Holy Spirit still have to descend on you (Now he,the Holy Spirit lives in you) to lead you into all Truth.

And dear,perhaps you have Scriptures which seems contradicting to you...oh.....you might not remember them now or search them out tonight.....but can you make a promise you had Let me know whenever you find one so we can discuss and shed lights on things hidden?
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jul 18, 2015
Hey bro.... thanks for coming... How are you doing?
twosquare:
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God[color=#000099][/color]. HEB 11:5

Hmm... bro.....I must say there is a lot of hidden treasures in that. verse you quoted.... care to dig it out for us?
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 11:49pm On Jul 18, 2015
Hmmmm by tomorrow,will be bk here sha,dizzy already
starlingslimnet:
Dear, In the garden when God made man... He made him without knowledge of good and evil....man had no knowledge of what is good or what is bad until Satan came to tempt Eve. At creation man was perfect in nature.

So he,Satan used a serpent to deceive Eve who ate the fruit of Knowledge of good and evil gave the same to Adam who took and ate it.They ate because they don't have knowledge that they are disobeying God.

So human chose for himself to have the knowledge of good and evil... and sin is all about evil so sin at work in man made them do evil and not God.But Lo and behold God declare Christ should be slain for the sins of man right in the garden of Eden.

So sweetheart mi, God didn't give us the knowledge of good neither did he give us the knowledge of evil... we gave ourself that ...we chose it ourself... only after we have eaten do we learn we have been scammed by Satan.... that we have entered one chance..
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 11:50pm On Jul 18, 2015
Thanks for coming bro...
keandre:
Christians cnt live without sinning, as long as forgiveness is right next to it, dnt ask me for any scriptural evidence oo
You know brother.... looking at your words there might be some element of Truth in it.....only if you can establish that with scriptural evidence cos without it many will be having difficulty believing your words...
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 11:52pm On Jul 18, 2015
Alright dear....
Sassybae:
Hmmmm by tomorrow,will be bk here sha,dizzy already
You have tried today.....Looking forward to seeing you here tomorrow..

Wishing you sweet dreams and a wonderful night.....cheesy
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 11:57pm On Jul 18, 2015
Sleep well,nighty
starlingslimnet:
Alright dear....You have tried today.....Looking forward to seeing you here tomorrow..

Wishing you sweet dreams and a wonderful night.....cheesy
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Cutehector(m): 12:02am On Jul 19, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Am learning bro Kindly bear with my questions.... If am getting you clearly bro are you in a way saying A Christain is a sinner if he persist in Sin?
damn right
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by keandre: 12:04am On Jul 19, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Thanks for coming bro... You know brother.... looking at your words there might be some element of Truth in it.....only if you can establish that with scriptural evidence cos without many will be having difficulty believing your words...

“If we confess our sins, he is
faithful and just and will forgive
us our sins and purify us from all
unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9).

I hv come across so many people with the thought of "mehn, lemme do it just this once, after which I will go for confession/confess my sins",don't think it ends there,humans are tempted to sin, without giving in a second thought we fall in knowing full well that our forgiveness is guaranteed
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 12:08am On Jul 19, 2015
Cutehector:
damn right
But brother.... you know..... we have people say God is a merciful God.....like many say "God will understand" .......Let me sin this once..... I will ask for forgiveness later afterall we are saved by by Grace through Faith in Christ Jesus and not by work less any man should boast...how do you explain this verse in respect to your answer?
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 12:10am On Jul 19, 2015
keandre:


“If we confess our sins, he is
faithful and just and will forgive
us our sins and purify us from all
unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9).

I hv come across so many people with the thought of "mehn, lemme do it just this once, after which I will go for confession/confess my sins",don't think it ends there,humans are tempted to sin, without giving in a second thought we fall in knowing full well that our forgiveness is guaranteed
Don't you think then brother.... by this Scripture you quoted Christains should continue in sin since there is enough grace for forgiveness?
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by twosquare(m): 12:15am On Jul 19, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Hey bro.... thanks for coming... How are you doing? Hmm... bro.....I must say there is a lot of hidden treasures in that. verse you quoted.... care to dig it out for us?
Enoch was one of the enduring ones who conquered satan's program by the reason of faith (I'm not talking about the faith of daily bread or claiming naira and kobo) but an "energy" of living that is of God....To do without sin is simply to learn Righteousness.....Satan took many years before he could teach men how to sin(check the beginning of our world), We learnt and still learning sin (because satan has an agenda to fully inscribe us with the name of Sin, which is the name of Blasphemy)....Now, it is possible not to sin, when i talk of sin, i'm not even saying stealing, fornication or adultery.....according to the spirit of Truth, those are low type. They are just results...Sin also is a lifestyle that is anti-God. Enoch dealt with Satan and handled him by the reason of the faith 'of' God(not just 'in' God).He achieved a feat more than the others, why? Abel was said to be righteous (meaning he is not sinning). Only God knows what Abel would have become if he was not killed....those are beacons of righteousness; that the Scriptures attested to it that Jesus' blood is better than the blood of Abel, meaning Abel's blood was good but Jesus own was 'better'.....Abel's blood wasn't about 'revenge' as being taught in Sundays school but a TESTAMENT that opened a pathway for the walk of Righteousness in the pre-flood era which Enoch tapped into (just like Jesus blood opened a path for us now and it is forever). Now, most of the Patriarchs were not sinning or sinners, that's why they could live that long.....talk of Jared, Mahalalel, Methuselah.....these ones are kings of Righteousness....that's not an ordinary title.....Enoch transcend them all by pushing further.


Now, the Scriptures mentioned a man called Melchizedek. Another man in the beginning of days that is part of the "enduring ones" who skipped death by the reason of walk....imagine his title-King of Righteousness and King of Peace....those are not ordinary.....combination of two powerful things....Melchizedek entered into the realm of "Kings" in the spirit. You can't attain that by sinning...those two titles talks of the Kingdom. I'm saying this to point at something....If these men attained this state without the blood of the 2nd Adam, how much more WE.

So, it is possible not to sin, you will learn it with time if willing...if not God won't command Abraham, "Walk before me and be thou perfect".

Do 'you' want to stop sinning? Sojourn with a Spirit called God, that's what Enoch et al did.

What is sin? Sin in a way is not loving the Father (Whoever reads this must look deep).

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Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by keandre: 12:22am On Jul 19, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Don't you think then brother.... by this Scripture you quoted Christains should continue in sin since there is enough grace for forgiveness?

I dnt think they should,hence the answer to your question is no, as long as 1 John 1:9 is still practiced
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 12:39am On Jul 19, 2015
And am learning Truth again ....more and more
twosquare:
Enoch was one of the enduring ones who conquered satan's program by the reason of faith (I'm not talking about the faith of daily bread or claiming naira and kobo) but an "energy" of living that is of God....To do without sin is simply to learn Righteousness.....Satan took many years before he could teach men how to sin(check the beginning of our world), We learnt and still learning sin (because satan has an agenda to fully inscribe us with the name of Sin, which is the name of Blasphemy)....Now, it is possible not to sin, when i talk of sin, i'm not even saying stealing, fornication or adultery.....according to the spirit of Truth, those are low type. They are just results...Sin also is a lifestyle that is anti-God. Enoch dealt with Satan and handled him by the reason of the faith 'of' God(not just 'in' God).He achieved a feat more than the others, why? Abel was said to be righteous (meaning he is not sinning). Only God knows what Abel would have become if he was not killed....those are beacons of righteousness; that the Scriptures attested to it that Jesus' blood is better than the blood of Abel, meaning Abel's blood was good but Jesus own was 'better'.....Abel's blood wasn't about 'revenge' as being taught in Sundays school but a TESTAMENT that opened a pathway for the walk of Righteousness in the pre-flood era which Enoch tapped into (just like Jesus blood opened a path for us now and it is forever). Now, most of the Patriarchs were not sinning or sinners, that's why they could live that long.....talk of Jared, Mahalalel, Methuselah.....these ones are kings of Righteousness....that's not an ordinary title.....Enoch transcend them all by pushing further.


Now, the Scriptures mentioned a man called Melchizedek. Another man in the beginning of days that is part of the "enduring ones" who skipped death by the reason of walk....imagine his title-King of Righteousness and King of Peace....those are not ordinary.....combination of two powerful things....Melchizedek entered into the realm of "Kings" in the spirit. You can't attain that by sinning...those two titles talks of the Kingdom. I'm saying this to point at something....If these men attained this state without the blood of the 2nd Adam how much more WE.

So, it is possible not to sin, you will learn it with time if willing...if not God won't command Abraham, "Walk before me and be thou perfect".

Do 'you' want to stop sinning? Sojourn with a Spirit called God, that's what Enoch et al did.

What is sin? Sin in a way is not loving the Father (Whoever reads this must look deep).
I knew there is something deep behind that Scripture you quoted......

Looking deep I see something.... that by sinning we joined Satan in his rebellion against God....

And also there is a different between Faith in God and Faith of God...Faith in God I see is Believing God but Faith of God is The Victorious Faith...The Faith of the Son of God.

Could it mean then brother that this,is what apostle Paul is talking about when he speaks in this way in Eph 4:13 "Until we all attain to the unity of the Faith and knowledge of the Son of God"?

Brother hence is this what Christ means when he told the disciples "If you have Faith like a seed of mustard yee will say to this mountain moves and it will obey" Is he telling in a way that our Faith must grow to the Faith of God?

Guys if you have any question on what my brother just said kindly asked......he will be more than please to shed more lightcheesy

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Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Nobody: 12:40am On Jul 19, 2015
keandre:


I dnt think they should,hence the answer to your question is no, as long as 1 John 1:9 is still practiced
Have you read my brother's post? I mean twosquare?
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by twosquare(m): 1:19am On Jul 19, 2015
starlingslimnet:
And am learning Truth again ....more and more I knew there is something deep behind that Scripture you quoted......

Looking deep I see something.... that by sinning we joined Satan in his rebellion against God....

And also there is a different between Faith in God and Faith of God...Faith in God I see is Believing God but Faith of God is The Victorious Faith...The Faith of the Son of God.

Could it mean then brother that this,is what apostle Paul is talking about when he speaks in this way in Eph 4:13 "Until we all attain to the unity of the Faith and knowledge of the Son of God"?

Brother hence is this what Christ means when he told the disciples "If you have Faith like a seed of mustard yee will say to this mountain moves and it will obey" Is he telling in a way that our Faith must grow to the Faith of God?

Guys if you have any question on what my brother just said kindly asked......he will be more than please to shed more lightcheesy
see it this way, this earth\WORLD is a colony of satan, and you know what a colony is.....in other words, you CONTINUE in sin; you become colonized with another lifestyle and knowledge that you believe is the ideal way of living....you reject satan's imperialism/colonialism by walking in TRUTH, you become a rebel(even though he is the real rebel) and also a target to spirits who are sensitive to TRUTH.....what satan wants to achieve is simple. He wants to prove to Elohim that Man love his own way more, his own knowledge and lifestyle. So, to walk against the ruler of this present world will take the Faith of the Son of God.

I love the words of our beloved brother-Apostle Paul you mentioned. The Unity of Faith goes beyond, the coming together of denominations( dark ages, there was no denominations, yet it is the worst).....it is a convocation of a Church that's now operating by the faith OF God. There is a type of faith God uses and lives by. You can't know it if you don't learn of Him. The "faith of the Son of God" is what raised HIm from the dead. God walks by Faith also, a faith that says "I make all things new" (Book of Revelation) even before it happens. It is more than prophecy. There is something about God's faith that the angels don't understand....spirits(angels, evil spirits etc) walk by faith. It is a faith beyond the moving of mountains and this is the faith God wants to unveil at the end of age and use it to deal with satan...God is like you no see anything yet.

So,the Knowledge of the Son is what will make us attain it, "knowing the terror of the Lord".....like I said earlier, if we want to stop satan's imperialism on earth, you need God's faith....not the faith of angels....the scripture called him the "great dragon" for a reason, if he is not, they won't mention it....God's faith(wisdom) defeated him on the cross, those who shall deal with him also will use that faith likewise.
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by keandre: 5:32am On Jul 19, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Have you read my brother's post? I mean twosquare?
Yea,whassup with it
Re: Can Christains Really Live Without Sinning? by Cutehector(m): 7:42am On Jul 19, 2015
starlingslimnet:
But brother.... you know..... we have people say God is a merciful God.....like many say "God will understand" .......Let me sin this once..... I will ask for forgiveness later afterall we are saved by by Grace through Faith in Christ Jesus and not by work less any man should boast...how do you explain this verse in respect to your answer?
leme answer u with dis... St paul says dat and I quote " should we continue in sin because the grace of God abound? Godforbid!"

Nw dat Godforbid meant smth... It means dat a badluck will just come suddenly wen dat person won't knw and death will take his life with a flash.. There won't be anytym to repent and ask for God's forgiveness... That is the only reason why St paul said Godforbid!

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