must_a_far:

people make so much noise about sex and HIV. yet the whole village goes to the same barber who uses the same clipper to cut and shape up every tunji, danjuma and ugo's hair.

if you abstain or decide to use gloves yet go ahead and get a haircut from a barber that uses the village clipper then u might as well cut the bullmanure and inject urself wit hit already.

Kobojunkie:

When you adopt the abstinence message preached by the pope, you don’t worry about STDS, but the minute you decide the pope’s message is no longer for you, do we still conclude that you are still listening to the pope? I am not exactly sure why you want to tie those two together in the way you seem to want to here.
If you find it hard to follow, then you no longer adopt the pope’s message and you find a message that suits your NEW choice, and it is not the pope’s problem what you choose next. That is up to you as an individual.
You are kidding me, right? Please tell me you are joking. There is a difference between ego issues and reality. There are many men down there who live abstinent till the day they wed, and even after remain with the same woman. Please, let us stop making ridiculous excuses for the situation we find ourselves in today. In the African sense of things, Abstinence has never really a foreign concept, so I am not sure what the world you are claiming is the case above. Well, did you read what he said or did you just loose it when you read on the line on condoms making it worse? The problem is he never said that. He simply preached that abstinence is the best option and based on his being a religious leader, not sure why that to you is unacceptable. Plus, the catholic religion has mostly been against sexual promiscuity from the beginning and it is not now going to change its stance on the issue just because some find it hard to accept these days. If it is not for you, then don’t worry about it.I think what he said is clear. Condoms are not 100% but we know that people assume they are even when there remains the 3% or there about chance that the condom will not work for you. You may have a problem with him preaching for abstinence and pointing out the truth about condoms but he does have a point and I am glad he made it.

A-town:

Mr man quit nagging. How many of those men that abstain from sex actually exist.

A-town:

There are probably 1 zillion having sex i speak. Heck what am i wasting time typing for. I'm off to have sex . . . . and yes i will ensure that i use TROJAN.

A-town:

Stop defending the Pope. How can the Pope tell me that he doesn't belive in condom usage in a marriage. I mean what is that all about.

people make so much noise about sex and HIV. yet the whole village goes to the same barber who uses the same clipper to cut and shape up every tunji, danjuma and ugo's hair.

bawomolo:

The pope is living on borrowed time. Islam and Pentecostalism are the fasted growing religions in Africa and latin America respectively. He is just making these ridiculous statements to get attention. Catholics would lose their strongholds in no time.

bawomolo:

Condom distribution has helped curb the spread of aids in countries like thailand. the pope's opinion is about as credible as that of that of an ayatollah.

Not sure why this should be turned into some attack against the catholic church or something.

Condoms have also been heavily distributed in African countries for almost 2 decades now. Can we please get off attacking the man and focus more on the message and what it means?

bawomolo:

not an attack just reality, the influence of the pope is waning.
there is no substance in his message other than disrupting the works of NGO's and the UN.

spikedcylinder:

This preaching for abstinence is rather ridiculous. Look around you, there's SEX everywhere and its not changing anytime soon.

Better to preach safety than abstinence. Something Mr Pope is yet to understand.

bawomolo:

The pope is living on borrowed time. Islam and Pentecostalism are the fasted growing religions in Africa and latin America respectively. He is just making these ridiculous statements to get attention. Catholics would lose their strongholds in no time.

texazzpete:

Better to preach absolute safety than likely safety. That's something YOU are yet to understand.

There's no absolute safety, to assume that is pernicious. How can you preach absolute safety when even new born babies are exposed to HIV risks due to no fault of theirs?

spikedcylinder:

There's no absolute safety, to assume that is pernicious. How can you preach absolute safety when even new born babies are exposed to HIV risks due to no fault of theirs?

grafikdon:

Did you folks expect the Pope to distribute free condoms?

Kobojunkie:

DO you know what abstinence even means? You keep coming back with some ridiculous rebuttles that I felt I needed to ask. What is it about NO sex being the safest form of sex that you do not get? How does on contract a sexually transmitted disease( lets assume that is the way it is transmitted over 99.9% of the time) when one is not having sex AT ALL? How can abstinent parents who are not HIV positive have HIV babies( put aside blood transfusions and infections from external factors)?

Where do you see sex everywhere? Even right here in America, sex maybe almost everywhere on TV but I have over learnt that it is not really everywhere as people think.

Anywho, like I said before, if you are not catholic/Christian , this ought not to bother you considering the pope speaks mostly for those who believe in the biblical teachings. He did not make up the rules, he simply is a messenger. The rules have been there long before he voiced them so if you have a problem with abstinence, may I suggest you find you a religion that allows it but allow those who take his words seriously to fight their battle as they would. Definitely, not all catholics will listen but I really don't understand why the pope is the issue here, when the message has little to do with him but more to do with the religion, which is bigger than him.

What planet are you living on? Sex is not everywhere?  WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!

You are just bleating the same things over and over. Yes, abstinence seems to be the most logical path but does it work?? DOES IT?   What I intentionally meant when I posted on this thread was that, it is the duty of the Pope to preach what his religion states i. e abstinence but sometimes it just isn't practical. As debosky said above, its almost akin to preaching moral suasion as a remedy for armed robbery.

This isn't about me or my religious affiliations as you are trying to make it seem, its about saying the right things, in the right places, at the right time.

I'm not responding to you anymore. Texxazzpete (or maybe every other person on the planet ) makes more sense than you.

JosBoy4Lif:

The pope could never tell the people of Europe that Condom use is bad and increases risk of AIDS.
Now ignorant Africans are going to say "I told you say na de condom oyinbo give us is tainted with AIDS, even the pope come talk am"

Even the stupid professor at Harvard was yarning the same bullshit.
My question is if we as Africans don't use contraceptives like condoms, will the so called 'risk of AIDS' decrease. The answer is a resounding NO! Africa like my friend A-town likes to put it would be even more disease infested.

I find it rather distasteful when prominent figures of the world go to Africa and spread disinformation.
More than 60% of his own congregation in the  Western world are in support of condoms, maybe he should go and preach to them.

Kobojunkie:

There is no need for the WHITE-MAN-IS-AGAINST-ME delusions here.

You seem to be an expert at taking things ridiculously out of proportion/context.

spikedcylinder:

What planet are you living on? Sex is not everywhere?  WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!

You are just bleating the same things over and over. Yes, abstinence seems to be the most logical path but does it work?? DOES IT?  

spikedcylinder:

What I intentionally meant when I posted on this thread was that, it is the duty of the Pope to preach what his religion states i. e abstinence but sometimes it just isn't practical. As debosky said above, its almost akin to preaching moral suasion as a remedy for armed robbery.

spikedcylinder:

This isn't about me or my religious affiliations as you are trying to make it seem, its about saying the right things, in the right places, at the right time.

spikedcylinder:

I'm not responding to you anymore, texxazzpete (or maybe every other person on the planet ) makes more sense than you.

spikedcylinder:

Thank you!!!

You seem to be an expert at taking things ridiculously out of proportion/context.

JustGood:

Actually, you are mistaken. The Pope is known to have said it clearly in Europe that abstinence is the best way of preventing HIV. The Pope is well known for promoting abstinence.

Kobojunkie:

abi oo!!! roflmao!!!

For those who do not know, all of Europe and even America knows the pope is against catholics using condoms period. Even here in America, the catholic community does not spend time distributing condoms but are known for abstinence talk as well. There is no need for the WHITE-MAN-IS-AGAINST-ME delusions here.

Kobojunkie:

Yes it does. It is simple actually. DO not have Sex. What does not work in that? I live on the same planet you do and have not really had a hard time with the abstinence talk. I live in the middle of the city here and love the night life and still NOTHING. What is not practical about it?  Sometimes it is not just practical? How? You mean sort of like sometimes it is not just practical to say NO to drugs? Roflmao!!!  See, if you say something like it is not for you, then fine but to assume EVERYONE is in the same boat and so the pope is wrong, that is just too far. Studies already show that less and less teens are having sex ( in America) these days and you say It is not practical? Come on!! I am not trying to make it about YOUR religious affiliation but trying to get you to understand that this is about RELIGION. The pope DOES NOT MAKE THE RULES, he FOLLOWS IT and PREACHES it. Hence the reason why I have called you to read the Bible to see that the pope did not necessarily make the message up himself.
Choose whom you want but please quit with the irritating responses that make no sense.  Please let us learn to separate our own issues from reality. Sex is not everywhere. This is for religious minded people and the pope can only preach the message; no need to stone him for the message. Rather ATTACK GOD DIRECTLY FOR IT.

Oh my goodness, this woman are you ever willing to actually READ what others are typing? Where have I said the Pope makes the rules? Partly, I am in agreement with you but you are so darn oblivious to see that!
Why is it surprising when people come across adult virgins in this day and age? Because they are rare! Why? Because almost everybody has had sex at some point in their lives. Thats the reality, thats what IS.
Fine, (as I have said before ) it'll be idealic to say people should abstain from sex as thats almost A ZERO guarantee against HIV AIDS and STDS but you say it in one ear and it comes out the other.
You live in the city with bright lights and a good night life and I understand that its almost impossible to step out of your perfect life to see the reality as it is - HIV AIDS KILLS PEOPLE EVERY DAY (the statistics of that, I'm unsure of). You might as well say, rub anointing oil/holy water on your body and you'll be protected against malaria.

Again, this is not about me, my religious affiliations or sexual practices.

spikedcylinder:

[color=#000099]Oh my goodness, this woman are you ever willing to actually READ what others are typing? Where have I said the Pope makes the rules? Partly, I am in agreement with you but you are so darn oblivious to see that!

spikedcylinder:

Why is it surprising when people come across adult virgins in this day and age? Because they are rare! Why? Because almost everybody has had sex at some point in their lives. Thats the reality, thats what IS.

spikedcylinder:

Fine, (as I have said before ) it'll be idealic to say people should abstain from sex as thats A ZERO guarantee against HIV AIDS and STDS but you say it in one ear and it comes out the other.

spikedcylinder:

You live in the city with bright lights and a good night life and I understand that its almost impossible to step out of your perfect life to see the reality as it is - HIV AIDS KILLS PEOPLE EVERY DAY (the statistics of that, I'm unsure of).

spikedcylinder:

You might as well say, rub anointing oil/holy water on your body and you'll be protected against malaria.

spikedcylinder:

Again, this is not about me, my religious affiliations or sexual practices.