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Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by karleone(m): 10:27pm On Aug 23, 2015
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Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Chidoks(f): 1:01am On Aug 24, 2015
eghuan1:



let me educate you on what abortion is. You see, abortion, us the willful termination of a pregnancy. it has to be conscious effort. that is to say the person procuring (not commiting as our people are used to saying) abortion has to do it by herself (taking drugs) or doctor (through and operation), that my friend is termed wishful termination of pregnancy Which is some places is wrong. But there is another level of abortion, where the pregnancy will lead to death of the woman and her feotus and so a doctor can with the concent of the woman or her relations, terminate the pregnancy. This my friend, is not wrong. You should not base your entire knowledge on topics on Religious understand alone. there are various perspectives to a topic of discuss.

you dished out half information and now you ate sounfing as if i'm dumb.i know what an abortion is.you never me ntioned medical adv ice when you gave the example since you knew the woman so well.no matter what you think , if it's not medically adviced it's a sin.and next time when narrating. a story give full details.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by bednego22: 1:43am On Aug 24, 2015
yes even as a born again u ar still a sinner cos u still commit sin the reason is u hav nt received the power & knowledge to overcome them 1 after the other, is on works, how? when a key is given to u to stop a perticular sin, apply them, perform the experiment and see the result. now as a born again, u hav the seed deposit of Christ in u, wen ever u tell a lie that spt of God in u will remind u that u hav lied, quickly go to that person and say " pls that thing i said to u was a lie disregard it this the truth. if u do this upto 10 times u would hav gradually killed the spt of lies in u. by the blood of the lamb of God, as many that received him are redeemed. but u must work out ur salvation ur self no one will do that for u, u must strive to enter, the kingdom of God sufereth violent and the violent man of the kingdom taketh it by force , u cee y u must develop spiritual muscles in order to fight all the spiritual negative powers that has vowed that u will neva make it..but u must be on the righteousness side. u must overcome them, overcome sin, Satan, and the world, the antichristian beast, his image, mark, and number of his name; who is more than a conqueror through Christ; one that perseveres to the end, notwithstanding all temptations, trials, and difficulties; same shall inherit all things.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by iguita: 6:33am On Aug 24, 2015
Tithes are meant for the 'priests', which are those who labour in the Lord's vineyard. Not only pastors fall in this category. Moreso, I think the OP meant pastors who substitute tithes for their 'take-home'. Just to point out, I was in a fellowship in school where paying of tithes was discouraged and this was because it was an evangelistic ministry so to be a member of the fellowship, you had to win souls, you had to travel on behalf of the ministry with your own funds. So pastor said since tithe is for the priests (which you are as a member of the fellowship) , pls keep your tithe and use it for your ministry. I hope others who preach against it have the same reasons. I know some churches say it is old testament tradition..... no, it was a command from God.
pretydiva:
I disagree wit d point u made in 8. Tithes r meant 4 pastors,dats were dey feed n take care of their families.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by lexy2014: 7:30am On Aug 24, 2015
pretydiva:
I disagree wit d point u made in 8. Tithes r meant 4 pastors,dats were dey feed n take care of their families.
not entirely true.tithe is meant for helping d needy in church and outside church including pastors.check Deuteronomy 14:22-28.u will b dazed that we aren't being told truth about tithing
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Rheetari(f): 8:03am On Aug 24, 2015
my dear, you see that your last point, that one dey pain me pass. especially all these new generation churches dem just carry speaking in tongues for head like gala sellers. how can you be teaching someone how to speak in tongues? on the day of Pentecost did anybody teach them how to speak in tongues. it's high time we got our facts right from God's word the bible.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by eghuan1(m): 9:12am On Aug 24, 2015
Chidoks:


you dished out half information and now you ate sounfing as if i'm dumb.i know what an abortion is.you never me ntioned medical adv ice when you gave the example since you knew the woman so well.no matter what you think , if it's not medically adviced it's a sin.and next time when narrating. a story give full details.


FYI, when you use the term "sin", you are refering to a Religious opinion. In this case, Religion is not the only perspective at play.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by obixcel(m): 10:02am On Aug 24, 2015
Happiness87:
Revelation is progressive, that is the level of revelation, he was operating on then
Exactly, people don't know that back then when Deeper Life started (1973), a lot of corrupt things were displayed on TV, no one had control over what they watched, it was without limit. Not that they said d TV itself is sin but it is what comes out of it. Now we're in the 21st century and in 2015. We have remote control and can control what we want to watch, everything is digitalised, that's the difference. I think even Pastor Tunde Bakare who was a former member of Deeper life, clarified some of these things, but a lot of folks still don't understand.

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Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by obixcel(m): 10:24am On Aug 24, 2015
Blackfire:


my maternal grandmother didnt attend his son's wedding in onitsha, because the girl is not a deeper life member.

Partially deeper life made me an atheist. I just hate religion, it takes our common sense and leave us senseless.

To all my religious friend,if u are sure of what u ve, hold on to it, if not scram from scam
Just because one member decides not to attend her son's wedding doesn't mean it is the general stance of the church. It is a wrong notion to assume. Marriage is a sacred thing, Christ attended the one at Cana without considering whether the couples involved were his followers of disciples. So we're all enjoined support the newly weds whether they are members of our church or not. And pls, nobody made u an atheist, u made urself an atheist and u are accountable to God on the Final Day. You can't blame anybody.

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Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Blackfire(m): 11:18am On Aug 24, 2015
obixcel:
Just because one member decides not to attend her son's wedding doesn't mean it is the general stance of the church. It is a wrong notion to assume. Marriage is a sacred thing, Christ attended the one at Cana without considering whether the couples involved were his followers of disciples. So we're all enjoined support the newly weds whether they are members of our church or not. And pls, nobody made u an atheist, u made urself an atheist and u are accountable to God on the Final Day. You can't blame anybody.

first of all u are an ignorant brain washed species.
Secondly when did u start attending deeper life? my name is still written in gold there(onitsha), i speak with evidence that is still seen today... Deeper life destroyed homes.
Thirdly if not that u are suffering from icabodic intelligence, or mene mene tekel uphasin is written on your forehead, u will discovered i said 'partially made me an atheist' .
Finally, i did not use one person to judge all... This dillusion of illusion is seen in deeper life.
Do u know there was a time is a sin to wear coat in deeper life.

I am well known in onitsha, infact am travelling to east now, if u want lets meet and verify.

Finally finally ... To hell with all religion.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 12:21pm On Aug 24, 2015
Eronmosele:

I have to say I agree with your submissions. Some of the points you mentioned need clarification otherwise you would be misunderstood. Mostly by those who do not have a solid understanding of the scriptural basis for the points. Especially wrt no. 8 and 10. God bless you.
Maybe i will write specifically on Tithe soon to clarify things.Glad you have such insights. God bless you
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 12:25pm On Aug 24, 2015
Happiness87:
you address him wrongly by saying who is kumuyi, he has led the church for over 40 years, spreading into terrible terrains, only with God can that happen.

respect spiritual authority, Elijah and Elisha are not mates
The Pharisees are spiritual authorities and Christ did not respect them for their hypocrisy. As for my address its directly from the Scripture. Apostle Paul asked "Who is Peter?" Who is Paul. Problem is you see them as God.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 12:26pm On Aug 24, 2015
dearpiriye:


Im sure he means asking 'who is....' nobody is asking u to prostrate also...infact he insists evri1 be called bro or sister...its the members that brought in all that. And u shuldnt ask such as u are not God and the bible also advices us to not judge...lets leave it all to God who sees the heart of man
Sweetheart am not judging
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 12:28pm On Aug 24, 2015
mbhs139:


I was once watching pastor Ajiboye of Redeem one day on tv where he narrated how a certain man who has been trying to catch a glimpse of him on the alter with so much effort without succeeding. He said anytime the man made an effort to catch a glimpse of him, the man is always being blocked (though unconsciously) by other members of the congregation. Then, all of a sudden, the man just grew taaaalllllllll, and high above everybody in the auditorium, and he was able to see him. That was the moment I lost respect for this man of God. He even said the man's wife could not recorgnised him again. It made me wonder how and why would a PhD in Mathematics for that matter believe such a story if he was being told that, not to talk of him being the one telling such a cat and bull story. That was pathetic to say the least.
lol.....thats funny
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 12:29pm On Aug 24, 2015
Samakinr:

i understand u are trying to say you are wiser....
see where my oga come out
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 12:43pm On Aug 24, 2015
mbulela:

A fellowship where you have to take a pledge of membership.
Cult things i guess
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 12:49pm On Aug 24, 2015
bettydee:


You are going in a different direction from what d op meant. I think the op is talking abt when you are told that do not eat certain things, touch certain object or taste certain products. He isn't condemning holiness, after all, the bible says its not what goes into d mouth that defiles us but what comes out of it.
Thank you for helping out
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by obixcel(m): 2:23pm On Aug 24, 2015
Blackfire:


first of all u are an ignorant brain washed species.
Secondly when did u start attending deeper life? my name is still written in gold there(onitsha), i speak with evidence that is still seen today... Deeper life destroyed homes.
Thirdly if not that u are suffering from icabodic intelligence, or mene mene tekel uphasin is written on your forehead, u will discovered i said 'partially made me an atheist' .
Finally, i did not use one person to judge all... This dillusion of illusion is seen in deeper life.
Do u know there was a time is a sin to wear coat in deeper life.

I am well known in onitsha, infact am travelling to east now, if u want lets meet and verify.

Finally finally ... To hell with all religion.
My brother, I'm sorry u feel so hurt, and it's understandable. My advice to you is, You can give up on Religion, but Don't give up on God because he won't give up on you. It may not be one, they may be many in christendom who may have done things that made u swear not to believe in God anymore, but find it in your heart to forgive and let go, and let God have his way in your life, Read the bible yourself and let God reveal his way to you.

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Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by bettydee(f): 4:44pm On Aug 24, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Thank you for helping out
Uwc
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 4:53pm On Aug 24, 2015
bettydee:

Uwc
Whenever you see any Bible base thread please do call me over...
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 4:57pm On Aug 24, 2015
Blackfire:


first of all u are an ignorant brain washed species.
Secondly when did u start attending deeper life? my name is still written in gold there(onitsha), i speak with evidence that is still seen today... Deeper life destroyed homes.
Thirdly if not that u are suffering from icabodic intelligence, or mene mene tekel uphasin is written on your forehead, u will discovered i said 'partially made me an atheist' .
Finally, i did not use one person to judge all... This dillusion of illusion is seen in deeper life.
Do u know there was a time is a sin to wear coat in deeper life.

I am well known in onitsha, infact am travelling to east now, if u want lets meet and verify.

Finally finally ... To hell with all religion.
You have a right to be angry bro....Like you I hold Religion has done more harm than good Christianity not excluded only Christ has done Good and if you believe in him and follow him like I and few on this thread are doing you will understand that God is Holy and Just.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by Nobody: 12:33pm On Aug 25, 2015
LadyBoss1:

Imaginee
Infact i wanna know wt bible jehovah witness n deeper life use because i dont get it

If u mean translation JWs use, they use variety of translations, but NWT is the one they use the most for uniformity and accuracy.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by bettydee(f): 8:29pm On Aug 26, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Whenever you see any Bible base thread please do call me over...

I definitely will.
Re: If Your Fellowship Holds These Teachings, Then It's Time You Moved On by chiraqDemon(m): 1:42pm On Nov 27, 2016
I dont go to church again cos most of them are money hungry
Imagine a hungry man paying tithe or offering wit his last card hopin for God to replenish n then the pastor combines all the money and buys a land rover with security team
But the hungry man n trekking and broke and hoping

Cos of this i belive the church is in the heart n by doing of good deed rather than seeing of visions and jumping around doing miracles by force

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