johnydon22:


Hahahahahaha i wouldn't like being that guy now, he just doesn't understand how daft he is showing himself out to be here..

ridiculing himself ... I suggest you reply only a post worth reply

hahn:


Hian! I am only following in your footsteps

hahn:


What is your proof that an eternal being did it?

Scientists say "we don't know". Simple

hahn:


Do you really just enjoy subjecting yourself to ridicule?

johnydon22:


My footsteps is when a post becomes too daft and idiotic leave it. . . The people reading it will need something to laugh over so let them see the post and slap their face at just how dumb a human can get ...

Richirich713:


Atheist - there's no God
Proof - I don't got any.

Q- Then who created the world?
Atheist - it came out of nothing or the universe is eternal.

Q- really out of nothing?
Atheist - ok I admit that was just a desperate attempt to avoid saying something must be eternal.

Q- but it can't be the universe according to ur great scientists , right?
Atheist -? Erm??

Teempakguy:



Atheist: there is no God.
proof: he is nowhere to be found.

who then created the world.
Atheist: the world does not need to be created before it comes into existence.

really, out of nothing?
Atheist: does this also mean that the creator came out of nothing? which is stupider?

but it can't be the universe according to the scient . . .
Atheist: *facepalm*

Richirich713:


Actually idiot ur scientists teach, sorry I mean proved the universe is not eternal but had a beginning.

Meaning there must be a creator who is eternal

"Nothing can't create something, get it?

Richirich713:
It's funny how u people say atheists don't have a belief system, yet when I debate a atheist, an extra 10 atheists come in to defend this "faith"

Teempakguy:
of course, atheists have a belief system. it just doesn't revolve around an anthropomorphic god/creator.

Uuuhm what belief system exactly

johnydon22:

Uuuhm what belief system exactly

Teempakguy:
of course, atheists have a belief system. it just doesn't revolve around an anthropomorphic god/creator.

Richirich713:


The atheist hero here Johnny disagrees :

"Please don't drag me down your mess of having a belief"

"No thanks; Science is a systematic study to reach a truthful approximation not a belief system"

"Following the law of energy conservation the energy (universe) is eternal and that has been what i am saying here but you keep trying to drag others down your mess of belief"

johnydon22:

Uuuhm what belief system exactly

Teempakguy:
belief has more than one interpretation.

one interpretation is connected to blind faith. the other is connected to knowledge.
btw, you are yet to reply my other post. i guess the truth shut you up?

Richirich713:


listen to him cuz I'm pretty sure he knows what it is to be a atheist more than u.

Richirich713:


Shot urself in the foot hey?

Teempakguy:
we believe in love . . . we believe in happiness . . . we believe in truth . . . we believe in reality . . . we believe in being good . . .
and most of all, we believe that it is not required for a God somewhere to coerce us into doing what is right before we do it.

Teempakguy:
one difference between atheists and theists is that atheists don't simply follow something because someone who purportedly has more experience in the field said it.
what happened there is simply a basic term confusion. now, what does it mean to believe?

to accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of.

from google.

now, you can accept that a God exists and feel sure that this is true. but why? you don't have any evidence or proof. you are just believing because you've been told to do so since birth.

now, i accept that gravity is one of the fundamental forces of nature. why? i KNOW that everything i throw up comes down. because i've seen it. i've seen celestial objects. they are round. this is because of gravity.

i believe because i know. you believe what you are told. gerrit?

johnydon22:

touche!!! nice one

Teempakguy:
hahahaha. i'm going to have fun with this one. ;Dyou mean THIS universe. this universe that we live in had a beginning. and no, it did not come from nothing. it is the product of an event that took place billions of years ago when SOMETHING called a singularity exploded and a host of other things occurred.
proof: black holes which have singularities in them. at a certain size, they spew out information via hawking radiation. in other words, the event that created this current universe is still happening NOW. and we can explain it perfectly without the need of a creator.

Teempakguy:
one difference between atheists and theists is that atheists don't simply follow something because someone who purportedly has more experience in the field said it.
what happened there is simply a basic term confusion. now, what does it mean to believe?

to accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of.

from google.

now, you can accept that a God exists and feel sure that this is true. but why? you don't have any evidence or proof. you are just believing because you've been told to do so since birth.

now, i accept that gravity is one of the fundamental forces of nature. why? i KNOW that everything i throw up comes down. because i've seen it. i've seen celestial objects. they are round. this is because of gravity.

i believe because i know. you believe what you are told. gerrit?

Richirich713:


Is that sumthing just another way of saying nothing?

seems like a science genius disagrees :

Hawking: Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing

How many more proofs do ur scientists have?

Richirich713:


Blah blah blah, just another way of saying u can't prove there's no God.

U don't KNOW if there's no God.
U believe there's no God, no proof.

Teempakguy:

frankly, i'm just replying him because it's funny to see him bring him weak points. only for me to brutally hack them to pieces.
i enjoy doing that a lot. this one sef is not logically formidable enough.

Richirich713:


When someone starts praising themself, it is done to give the impression that they winning the argument or to draw the attention away from their previous embarrassment.

Most likely both as he trying to get Johnny approval after he embarrassed himself when stating that atheism is a belief system.

When johnydon disagreed with him, he quickly try to correct his mistake and gain his approval due to the fact that he believes johnydon is more intelligent than him and knows more about atheism than him.

I'm again expecting him to praise himself or praise johnydon or do anything possible to avoid his embarrassment being brought up again.

Teempakguy:
dude! that was a joke!

can't you spot that? and besides, even if it was not a joke, the universe is perfectly capable of coming out of nothing. it just didn't. the something i am talking about came from an earlier universe. and that universe created itself out of either another singularity or it came out of nothing.

what does nothing mean? nothing means no laws of nature. nothing means anything is allowed because there is nothing to stop it. so, yeah. the universe is perfectly capable of coming out of absolutely nothing.

Richirich713:


What scientist proved this?

I thought atheists only believe In stuff that is proven?

Do u agree with Hawking proofs of the big bang?

Richirich713:
Belief- Belief is the state of mind in which a person thinks something to be the case, with or without there being empirical evidence to prove that something is the case with factual certainty. In other words, belief is when someone thinks something is reality, true, when they have no absolute verified foundation for their certainty of the truth or realness of something.

Do atheist belief stuff with no certainty or proof?

Teempakguy:
oh, you mean what scientist proved that there was an earlier universe?
there are many . . . in fact, any scientist can.
first, we know that this universe is the product of a singularity. the singularity is found in black holes in this universe. the meaning of this is that the previous universe experienced a big crunch. at a point the universal laws broke down because it was too big to be stable. gravity as well. the result being that from being a superdense particle, without gravity to hold it together, it exploded. and after billions of years, we are here.

it's still expanding even.

what is Hawking's proof of the big bang?