JeSoul:

  I don't know enough about the core concepts of Islam to say with authority what their position is on the matter. But I guess I do submit another person could very well put forth my argument as justification for the 'actions' of their god. It doesn't mean I have to accept it, just like you don't have to accept mine either.

Herein lies the contradiction in people who practice one religion or the other, it is all fine and dandy if your god kills others or seemingly instructs you to kill them but it is wrong if another's god(s) tell them to do the same to you right?
and you expect to ever have peace in this world? no f**ing way.
Well maybe that is why the christians only look forward to a place of peace only after their death.

JeSoul:

  However I always come back to this. What was the context in which this supposed "wickedness" happened? All to often antagonists only choose to focus on the cop who killed the burgler instead of sympathising with the trail of victims the criminal left in his wake AND the future victims the cop's actions have prevented. Too often they misplace their compassion with the murderer instead of the judge rightly sends him to death row.

A very apt illustration in which you only further illustrate the fact that God is not omnipotent, if it is fine for the cop to kill the burgler, is it then right for the cop to go ahead and annhilate the burglar's family? or God cannot do anything about collateral damage?
Besides, why the inconsistency in action? why annihilate some 'evil' tribes totally and take other's virgin daughters as wives? where exactly does genocide and ethnic cleansing begin? why make peace treaties with some (who achieved such treaties through deception like the Gibeonites in Joshua 9)
I don't see you defending any other god except yours doing this and that is sheer hypocrisy.

This God whom you serve is Evil by every definition of the word, except you want to redefine the word evil as we know it and that is a fact whether you acknowledge it or not.

I'm shocked that Christians dont seem to consider their God as being evil.

A God that kills off the entire first borns of Egypt in one night, Drowns the entire world in water, rains fire on an entire civilisation (Sodom and Gomorrah), plays a gamble that cost the lives with the life of his most loyal servant (Job), orders the isrealites to kill off a certian tribe and take their land (Cannaites), e.t.c.

If this isnt the definition of evil then I wonder what is.

duduspace:

Herein lies the contradiction in people who practice one religion or the other, it is all fine and dandy if your god kills others or seemingly instructs you to kill them but it is wrong if another's god(s) tell them to do the same to you right?
and you expect to ever have peace in this world? no f**ing way.
Well maybe that is why the christians only look forward to a place of peace only after their death.

A very apt illustration in which you only further illustrate the fact that God is not omnipotent, if it is fine for the cop to kill the burgler, is it then right for the cop to go ahead and annhilate the burglar's family? or God cannot do anything about collateral damage?
Besides, why the inconsistency in action? why annihilate some 'evil' tribes totally and take other's virgin daughters as wives? where exactly does genocide and ethnic cleansing begin? why make peace treaties with some (who achieved such treaties through deception like the Gibeonites in Joshua 9)
I don't see you defending any other god except yours doing this and that is sheer hypocrisy.

This God whom you serve is Evil by every definition of the word, except you want to redefine the word evil as we know it and that is a fact whether you acknowledge it or not.

 

JeSoul:

  Since all most atheists on NL do is copy and paste and reiterate the same arguements and points of contention . . . I will copy and paste and reiterate the same answers many of us christians have given to you. No be only una sabi ctrl+c and ctrl+v.

  For starters go to this most recent thread  https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-273481.0.html   David & Bobbyaf discussed on the OT. Search my sister Pilgrims name, she has discussed with more detail on several OT topics than anyone can handle. No need for repetition.

When someone comes up with a fresh perspective or issue or question, it shall be deserving of a fresh response.

See, I can also copy and paste.

When someone comes up with a fresh perspective or issue or question, it shall be deserving of a fresh response.

JeSoul:


See, I can also copy and paste.

When someone comes up with a fresh perspective or issue or question, it shall be deserving of a fresh response.

Paraphrase:

God sure sounds evil, but I'd better remain on his good side so I remain safe from his evil.

or

I don't really have an answer that makes sense without contradicting myself but I'm still going to stick to my points anyway afterall God is still real to me despite his seeming inconsistencies, there must be some answer somewhere I just haven't found it yet.

Whichever it is, good luck to you. God is evil.

duduspace:

Whichever it is, good luck to you. God is evil.

Message received. . . what else?

You already know how the Truth is very bitter.,Your God has been the Founder of Evil but still you are searching for excusses to back em up***common stop decieving yourselves!,the Top Secrets has already started Exposing.

Ogaga4Luv:

You already know how the Truth is very bitter.,Your God has been the Founder of Evil but still you are searching for excusses to back em up***common stop decieving yourselves!,the Top Secrets has already started Exposing.

what's next? Hit your head on the wall?

If I question your God because he is God and there is no other God beside him, he should be able to withstand my simple mortal questions. People who ask questions should not be a threat to your God. So why are christians still running away instead of answering all the questions in this thread?

Okija_juju:

I'm shocked that Christians dont seem to consider their God as being evil.

A God that kills off the entire first borns of Egypt in one night, Drowns the entire world in water, rains fire on an entire civilisation (Sodom and Gomorrah), plays a gamble that cost the lives with the life of his most loyal servant (Job), orders the isrealites to kill off a certian tribe and take their land (Cannaites), e.t.c.

Actually Nothing like that EVER happened. There is NO historical or archeological evidence for most of the claims of the bible. Most of the evil recored in the OT were done by the ancient hebrew men who used their god as a justification, most of the biblical stories that have the hebrew god slaughtering people NEVER happened or where highly  embellished by the ancient jews to make their god look powerful and strong. there was nothing like fiction when the ancient jews wrotemost of their stories down most of what they wrote down were mere fiction which was passed down from one generation to another using oral tradition andmost of the stories were changed as it was passed on to make yahweh look more powerful than all the other gods around.

some of the stories were borrowed from other earlier civilizations and changed to make yahweh look strong and heroic. there is no historical or archeological evidence for most of the wars in the bible(Egypt and other ancient civilizations have historical and archeological evidence formmost of what the ancient Egyptians recorde, but that can not be said about the ancient jews all we have are mere speculations). All the wars were highly embellished or the history was changed. In fact the whole old testament is an embellished epic story of the ancient jews and their hero and warrior god.

If this isnt the definition of evil then I wonder what is.

how do you expect the Christians to agree with you that their heroic yahweh is evil? can't you see that they are happy with the epic tale of yahweh and his chosen men? Imagine Africans calling Abraham their father because the bible says so?

davidylan:

Message received. . . what else?

ditto

Christians always have a way of justifying their misbehavior don't they. What better way to explain their aggressions against others, "its Gods word", or "its Gods will". The Old Testament is filled with admonitions from the God Jehovah to break down the walls of the city, pillage, loot, kill all the men, keep the virgins for yourself and on and on. The amazing thing is that to this very day, people flock to churches and admire the God who ordered the raping, looting, and pillaging. How can this be ?