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Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by Aqudo: 3:54pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
BERNIMOORE: That's why I told you to be objective. Don't be political in your submission. If Lai Mohammed's statement is your yardstick to arrive at your "logical" conclusion, then it will "logical" for you to say every money spent under Jonathan's govt on roads, new federal Universities, and other projects is from Dasuki, since information ministry and other ministries didn't get funds via budgets or generate money from govt agencies. |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by BERNIMOORE: 4:03pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
Aqudo:So when it involves APC spokesman Now we should thread with caution, But in Obaigbena's thisDay owner, we throw caution to the winds=Equal Double standard, so for your information, Femi Adesina took N50m from DasukiGate, Same way Obaigbena's Thisday collected money from Dasukigate. simple! |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by Itsekiriman101: 5:12pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
BERNIMOORE: There are marked differences in this matter: 1. NGE is not an individual profit making body; but a body of elders of the journalism profession. This day is a profit making body owned by Nduka Obaigbena sole 2. The donation of N50m was done towards the building of their secretariat (which has been completed) in public and reported widely. Obaigbenas one was done in secret and only exposed during the probe. 3. For an individual to have been given N630m as "compensation" for what Was the Government of the time claiming responsibility for the bombing? Why compensate? Or were they paying for some other thing? As a Limited company, should he not have insurance? What he alone got is over ten time what a body of elders got. Does Nduka Obaigbena even pay tax? I think we should not be pettey with this matter. Until people begin to suffer the consequences for corruption, we will not move forward. God bless Nigeria |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by ShowYourCertificate: 6:39pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
Itsekiriman101:Point of correction, Nduka received the money on behalf of NPAN, not Thisday. NPAN is an association for Newspaper Establishments 2. The donation of N50m was done towards the building of their secretariat (which has been completed) in public and reported widely. Obaigbenas one was done in secret and only exposed during the probe.Who said it was done in secret? If you were a member of NPAN, you would have known about the money given to Nduka Obaigbena 3. For an individual to have been given N630m as "compensation" for what Was the Government of the time claiming responsibility for the bombing? Why compensate? Or were they paying for some other thing? As a Limited company, should he not have insurance? What he alone got is over ten time what a body of elders got. Does Nduka Obaigbena even pay tax?It is the government's responsibility to protect it's citizens. Thus when there's a disaster, the government has a responsibility to respond. That's why they opt to pay the bills of the wounded in a bomb blast. That's why they rebuild markets, schools, mosques, churches after it has been razed down by miscreants. The bomb incident in Thisday and Suns Newspaper was perpetuated by Boko Haram because the terrorists felt threatened by the patriotic press. Thus it's not out of place for the govt to help the bombed Newspaper establishments to rebuild. And if I may ask, since when did the FG become mortgaging firm to the NGE? Wetin concern govt and the NGE building? I think we should not be pettey with this matter. Until people begin to suffer the consequences for corruption, we will not move forward.Your post reeks so much of bias. Let's learn to be objective in our analysis. God bless Nigeria |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by BERNIMOORE: 6:56pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
Itsekiriman101:you still make same mistake by jumping Exegical Holes in Bolded above, lets expose holes you did not want us to expose, Donation of N50m was received and aknowledged through a remark by Femi Adesina phisically present; Femi Adesina was not only present at the event but also make remarks aknowledging wise use of the fund ''in his remarks, the NGE president, while thanking successive leaders of the Guild for setting the foundation which the current leadership is building on, informed that part of the secretariat will be put into commercial use to generate revenue for the guild. He said the building of the NGE secretariat which would be known as “the editors plaza” is a dream being realised 52 years after the Guild was formed'' http://leadership.ng/news/365470/jonathan-donates-n50m-nge-secretariat Since Dasuki is PDP-ATM and DASUKIGATE Is a brand-PDP used for any money Spent under Jonathan.. Adesina was paid from money-for Arms Dasukigate, Simple |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by wirinet(m): 7:01pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
ShowYourCertificate: i am highly disappointed at your submission. If Nduka Obiagbena and his company Thisday was paid 630 million naira as compensation for bombing of 2 of their offices by Boko Haram, how much compensation was paid to Sun Newspapers that suffered similar bombings? How much compensation was paid to MTN and Etisalat that most of their masts in Maiduguri and Bornu destroyed by Boko Haram? How much compensation was paid by Dasuki to thousands of homes destroyed and burnt by Boko Haram? What about compensation for the tens of thousands of people killed by Boko Haram? Why was it only Nduka Obiagbena that deserved to be compensated by Jonathan? The Issue of FGN becoming a morgage firm to NGE does not even arise or make sense. NGE organized a fund raising dinner to raise N850 million to build their secretariat, the FG, state governments, Private organizations and the public were invited. The FG made a donation of N50 million, various state governments made undisclosed donations, wealthy individuals donated, so how is FG a morgage firm? FG and its agencies make donations to other non governmental organizations all the time, they have even made numerous donations to other organizations like the Nigerian Labour Congress, Nigerian Bar Association, etc, so there is nothing extraordinary about making donations to NGE. The donations was made through the right channel - The Minister of Information. Are you now insinuating that all donations made by FG and its agencies are illegal? |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by ShowYourCertificate: 7:37pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
wirinet:You're ignorant. Its very obvious that you are ignorant. That money wss not meant for Thisday Newspaper alone, the Sun Newspaper and the Nation Newspaper were also in the picture and they got their cuts. The MTN and other network mast were rebuilt with the assistance of the government. As regards the compensation for those who lost their loved ones and property, the government did provide them some form of assistance even though I admit a lot still need to be done in that regard. The Issue of FGN becoming a morgage firm to NGE does not even arise or make sense. NGE organized a fund raising dinner to raise N850 million to build their secretariat, the FG, state governments, Private organizations and the public were invited. The FG made a donation of N50 million, various state governments made undisclosed donations, wealthy individuals donated, so how is FG a morgage firm? FG and its agencies make donations to other non governmental organizations all the time, they have even made numerous donations to other organizations like the Nigerian Labour Congress, Nigerian Bar Association, etc, so there is nothing extraordinary about making donations to NGE. The donations was made through the right channel - The Minister of Information.Don't be biased Mr Man. How can you endorse the govt giving money to NGE and then condemn that of NPAN? They are both non-profit associations. May God cure you of your beclouded sense of reasoning. |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by Pidggin(f): 7:56pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
If it was a PDP chieftain accused of this he would have been arrested by now. |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by wirinet(m): 10:42pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
ShowYourCertificate: You are a liar and a thief, it is only a thief that can lie bold face and distort facts. Where did you get the lie that Sun Newspaper was compensated by Dasuki for the bombing of their office by Book Harm? What concern's the nation newspapers with compensation for boko Haram bombings, was the nation's office also bombed? Provide evidence that government assisted MTN and other networks with rebuilding of their masts destroyed by boko Haram. How many people did Jonathan or Dasuki compensate for property and loved ones ? provide evidence and names. Liar and thief, who is taking about NPAN, we are talking about the N550 million collect by fraudulent means from Dasuki by Obiagbena. Money he explained away as compensation for boko Haram's bombings of his offices. Here is what Nduka obiagbena wrote in his explanation to EFCC ; Contents of letter [/quote]. The money was paid to obiagbena not even through thisday newspapers but through another of obiagbena's companies General Hydrocarbons ltd. So how do you reconcile the two? Thisday newspapers, a legal entity's office was bombed and they asked to be compensated, but a different legal entity, General Hydrocarbons ltd was paid compensation instead. How was the compensation arrived at? where is the valuation of damages? I am sure you work for obiagbena or somehow you benefited from the largesse. your levellevel of support for criminality cannot be just on tribal basis. |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by BERNIMOORE: 11:58pm On Jan 07, 2016 |
wirinet:Hello sir, you Have no point! ThisDay Newspaper Ltd, General Hydrocarbons ltd were owned by obiagbena, and was paid from Currupt proceeds. Femi Adesina would have rejected the Money or would have returned it like Pastor Bakare did when he visited Aso rock in 2010, He was alledgedly offered 50,000 dollars but having received it he Duly returned it back intact! Thats a man of integrity! http://saharareporters.com/2010/11/28/president-jonathan-offered-us-50000-bribe-we-returned-it-pastor-tunde-bakare-confirms he did Not feign ignorance like Femi Adesina, PDP is currupt and Adeshina should have turned down the N50,000,000 at the event like TundeBakare, so stop Blabbing. Insted; Femi Adesina was not only present to aknowledge the pledge of the N50m but Also reveal how the money from currupt source will be spent wisely ''in his remarks, the NGE president, while thanking successive leaders of the Guild for setting the foundation which the current leadership is building on, informed that part of the secretariat will be put into commercial use to generate revenue for the guild. He said the building of the NGE secretariat which would be known as “the editors plaza” is a dream being realised 52 years after the Guild was formed'' http://leadership.ng/news/365470/jonathan-donates-n50m-nge-secretariat your straw argument will only expose you to more riddicle! Adeshina is currupt, simple! |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by leofab(f): 1:32am On Jan 08, 2016 |
Hmmm
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Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by ShowYourCertificate: 8:20am On Jan 08, 2016 |
wirinet:The Nation Newspaper along with other Newspaper were given some money by the FG and was collected by Nduka Obaigbena on behalf of NPAN. The money was compensation for the attack of the Military on Newspaper Establishments. I had thought the Sun Newspaper was also compensated for the Boko Haram attack (even though the damage done on the Sun Newspaper was nothing compared to that of Thisday). The government assisted in the MTN, Airtel Mast restoration. At least I'm aware that the military engineers together with those of MTN and armed soldiers (for security) went together to repair some masts back then. Jonathan gave the Chibok girl's family financial assistance, among other things. Liar and thief, who is taking about NPAN, we are talking about the N550 million collect by fraudulent means from Dasuki by Obiagbena. Money he explained away as compensation for boko Haram's bombings of his offices.Thisday is entitled to that money. If the UN could be compensated by rebuilding their bombed building why shouldn't Thisday be compensated as well? So don't be pained that Thisday got that money just the same way you are not pained that NGE got theirs. And if Nduka is told to refund the money, then Femi Adesina should also be told to refund his as well. |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by BERNIMOORE: 10:43am On Jan 08, 2016 |
ShowYourCertificate:Gbam! i suggest that you dont reply Wirrinet again, let me do further replies! |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by wirinet(m): 2:06pm On Jan 08, 2016 |
ShowYourCertificate: You are still throwing in a red herring in order to Justify Jonathan's administration's sharing of arms money meant to fight Boko Haram. Yes, Nduka Obiagbena collected N120,000,000 on behalf of NPAN to compensate newspaper houses that had their newspapers siezed and destroyed by the army. It is not even this payment that people are calling Nduka a thief, even though the money was paid through questionable means and shouded in secrecy. It is ethically and morally wrong for compensation monies for NPAN members to be paid through a proxy company of the chairman. General Hydocarbon ltd is not even a member of NPAN, so why was the money not paid directly into NPAN's accounts? Most NPAN members were not even aware of how the money was paid and that the money was from money meant for arms purchase. Now that the lid has been blown off and the questionable way Nduka collected the N120 million on their behalf, a lot of them has returned the money, punch has even suspended its membership of NPAN.
Here 4 members of NPAN denies knowledge of the whole transaction
If most members of NPAN are appalled by the way Nduka Obiagbena handle the whole NPAN compensation saga, you a non party to the whole affair is praising Nduka.
Thisday is not entitled to any money and definitely not entitled to N530 million of our collective wealth. Even though government's promise to rebuild the UN was seriously criticized by Nigerian, it was not done under questionable circumstances. Ban Ki Moon did not receive monies meant to procure arms from private third party companies. The UN building contract went through the FEC and through appropriate channels.
The N530 million collected by Nduka was pure theft, it was not budgeted for, it did not pass through any litigation or adminstrative processs, it was was dashed to him. The office building in Kaduna housed two other newspaper houses - The Sun, ThisDay and The Moment newspapers, only Thisday collected "compensation"
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Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by ShowYourCertificate: 2:53pm On Jan 08, 2016 |
wirinet:Balderdash ONSA paid both NPAN and NGE. Its either they both keep the money or they both refund the money. Simple. |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by wirinet(m): 4:01pm On Jan 08, 2016 |
ShowYourCertificate: But some members of NPAN have returned the compensation money once they discovered that Nduka collected the money from Dasuki. If there is evidence that the donations made by FG to NGE was from money earmarked for arms purchase, they also have a moral obligation to return same. But so far, there is no direct connection between Dasuki and NGE. The donation was pledged and paid by Labaran Maku, It behoves on labaran to explain where he got the money. |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by erumena(m): 5:11pm On Jan 08, 2016 |
I'm very sure we won't find the Plaza the money was meant for....including the pepper! |
Re: NGE Confirmed They Took N50m From Jonathan, Claims Unfairly Targeted By Buhari by ShowYourCertificate: 5:12pm On Jan 08, 2016 |
wirinet:ONSA told Nduka that it paid NGE N50m, Nduka told Nigerians what ONSA told him, NGE in turn affirmed that they were paid N50m but never told us who credited the account. Who's fooling who? And Point of Correction, NGE never said Labaran Maku paid the money. They only said he pledged the money on behalf of Jonathan. They said the money was subsequently wired into their account after the pledge. And they chose to be silent on who effected the transfer. So they haven't refuted ONSA's claim that they were paid by ONSA. They only refuted the cash payment claim. |
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