AlMuflihah & habicab, Our great women of islamic apologetics, please can you say something about this, protecting women from rape unislamic and is it fair to you muslimah?

When the Women’s Protection Act was passed in Pakistan’s Punjab province’s regional assembly last month, advocates believed it signaled progress for women’s rights in a region that sees thousands of cases of sexual violence reported each year.


The Pakistani religious body that determines whether provincial or federal laws comply with Islam had a different view: the act — which would create new investigation teams, require GPS trackers for sexual offenders, and require jail time for certain domestic abuse cases — was “un-Islamic.”
“The whole law is wrong,” Muhammad Khan Sherani, head of the Council of Islamic Ideology, said at a news conference Thursday. The influential religious body advises legislators before bills are sworn into law, and its members’ opinions have historically influenced public opinion on proposed bills.


The Women’s Protection Act, which would also create a hotline for victims of sexual and domestic abuse, has been condemned by many right-wing clerics who say it directly conflicts with the Quran. On Thursday, Pakistani Supreme Court lawyer Mohammad Aslam Khaki asked the Federal Shariat Court to label the law as offensive to Islam, Pakistan’s state religion. The court makes final decisions on what does and does not constitute as Islamic.

This is far from the first time a law has been condemned by the Council of Islamic Ideology. In January, it blocked a bill that would establish new, stricter punishment for child marriage. And in an earlier case, it ruled that DNA cannot be used as primary evidence in cases of rape — which has infuriated human rights activists. Instead, it supported a bill that would require any woman accusing a man of rape to provide the court with at least four male witnesses in order to allow the case to move forward.

The council’s decision this January to block a bill to impose harsher penalties for marrying off girls as young as eight or nine also angered human rights activists.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/04/top-pakistani-religious-body-womens-protection-law-is-un-islamic/?utm_content=bufferc5f76&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

so NOW, will it be ok not to protect women like you from sexual and domestic rape becos its against islam?

Soon some lunatics will come here and claim that islam protects the rights of women. Bunch of retaards islamic laws and islamic thinking is really nauseating.

Hope our muslimahs will come aand give them support... Any muslimah is welcomed

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No religion is better then the other, they are only a belief that people can choose to follow... they both have their goods and bads

unphilaz:
AlMuflihah & habicab, Our great women of islamic apologetics, please can you say something about this, protecting women from rape unislamic and is it fair to you muslimah?



http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/04/top-pakistani-religious-body-womens-protection-law-is-un-islamic/?utm_content=bufferc5f76&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

so NOW, will it be ok not to protect women like you from sexual and domestic rape becos its against islam?

you've finally reduced yourself to Annunaki the empty barrel! The mushroom webpage claimed it is unislamic to protect women? its either this story is a forgery or those people dont know what they are saying, i was waiting to see the verse that conflicts the act of protecting women but none was provided, now a challenge for you is to provide a verse that conflict the act of protecting women, or keep your buccal cavity shut!

ifenes:
No religion is better then the other, they are only a belief that people can choose to follow... they both have their goods and bads

You are getting it twisted, the meme below is a quote by your fellow atheist.

Annunaki:


You are getting it twisted, the meme below is a quote by your fellow atheist.

Jesus wasn't real. Only a symbol of Pisces,the fish.

ifenes:


Jesus wasn't real. Only a symbol of Pisces,the fish.

I see you haven't stopped sniffing that stuff.

Annunaki:


I see you haven't stopped sniffing that stuff.

You will consider me sane if I said jesus died for me?

ifenes:


You will consider me sane if I said jesus died for me?

Not necessarily

Annunaki:


Not necessarily

So?

ifenes:


So?

Just kontinu in your self inflicted delusion, I am not asking you to accept Christ, it's your choice.

Annunaki:


Just kontinu in your self inflicted delusion, I am not asking you to accept Christ, it's your choice.

I don't need a gay partner.

ifenes:


I don't need a gay partner.

I guess you are very happy with your current gay partner then.

Annunaki:


I guess you are very happy with your current gay partner then.

Ain't you married to jesus?

ifenes:


Ain't you married to jesus?

No I am not but I believe in him

Annunaki:


No I am not but I believe in him

Do you love him?

ifenes:


Do you love him?

With all my being, soul and heart.


Ps: awaiting his next daft comment

Annunaki:


With all my being, soul and heart.


Ps: awaiting his next daft comment

Does jesus give you a hard on?

ifenes:
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So is Obama justifying ISIS with what has been relegated to dustbin of history? Except you intend to condon Isis beast today... Yes the past shouldn't define us but ISIS and its affiliate believe ISIS must do according to allahh prophet unlike Christians who believe that Christ peace should prevail and hence you see docility of Christians.

unphilaz:


So is Obama justifying ISIS with what has been relegated to dustbin of history? Except you intend to condon Isis beast today... Yes the past shouldn't define us but ISIS and its affiliate believe ISIS must do according to allahh prophet unlike Christians who believe that Christ peace should prevail and hence you see docility of Christians.

You know I am not condoling Isil. I am letting you know they are doing exactly what Christianity did in the past. Christianity did worse in the past,it's there in your bible.

lexiconkabir:
you've finally reduced yourself to Annunaki the empty barrel! The mushroom webpage claimed it is unislamic to protect women? its either this story is a forgery or those people dont know what they are saying, i was waiting to see the verse that conflicts the act of protecting women but none was provided, now a challenge for you is to provide a verse that conflict the act of protecting women, or keep your buccal cavity shut!

OK if foriegnpolicyis mushroom webpage, deal with Reuters
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0W51O9

And this, a Pakistani paper

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1058773/top-pakistani-religious-body-rules-womens-protection-law-un-islamic/

Are you claiming that the the chairman of the Pakistani Islamic ideology eered in rejecting this law that protects women from rapist?

Fazlur Rehman, the chief of one of Pakistan's largest religious parties, the Jamiat-i-Ulema Islam, said the law was in conflict with both Islam and the constitution of Pakistan.

"This law makes a man insecure," he told journalists. "This law is an attempt to make Pakistan a Western colony again."

In 2013, more than 5,800 cases of violence against women were reported in Punjab alone, the province where Wednesday's law was passed, according to the Aurat Foundation, a women's rights advocacy group.

Those cases represented 74 percent of the national total that year, the latest for which data is available.

Now fazlur rehman is saying that this law makes men vulnerable not the vulnerable women...hmm

unphilaz:


Now fazlur rehman is saying that this law makes men vulnerable not the vulnerable women...hmm

You have to marvel at the sheer stu.pidity of muslims sometimes.

unphilaz:


OK if foriegnpolicyis mushroom webpage, deal with Reuters
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0W51O9

And this, a Pakistani paper

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1058773/top-pakistani-religious-body-rules-womens-protection-law-un-islamic/

Are you claiming that the the chairman of the Pakistani Islamic ideology eered in rejecting this law that protects women from rapist?

Mr man, was that what i asked of you, bring a verse that conflicts protecting women as they have claimed, simple! if you dont know anything can you keep mute?

lexiconkabir:
Mr man, was that what i asked of you, bring a verse that conflicts protecting women as they have claimed, simple! if you dont know anything can you keep mute?

He he you claimed my initial post was mushroom, and I updated it with more reliable non mushroom webpage... On the verse you require, pls ask Fazlur Rehman, the chief of one of Pakistan's largest religious parties, the Jamiat-i-Ulema Islam, who in his own wisdom, said the law was in conflict with both Islam and the constitution of Pakistan.

What I expect youyou to do is simply say the Islamic dude erred big time and you condemn him and be a better Muslim like wafa sultan suggested.

TruthHurts1:


You have to marvel at the sheer stu.pidity of muslims sometimes.

Accepting a criminal like mohammed as a prophet is one step above insanity, if all that was written about him in the quran and the hadith are taken literarily.

Annunaki:


No I am not but I believe in him

Pls Bros stop wasting you time on this lonely meseriable seed of Satan. Anything Christ pinches him so hard. He says there's no God, but say something allahh, and he'll jump in favour of allahh against you. Yet he tells himself he is atheists. I wonder how much time he spends out of this forum.

unphilaz:


Now fazlur rehman is saying that this law makes men vulnerable not the vulnerable women...hmm

Dont you understand? It indeed makes them vulnerable because they won't be raping women and taking it as their right. The shirk talking there is himself a rapist. If that Bill is passed into law, he will be arrested before long, because so many ladies he has raped will cry out.
See how people just use this religion as an excuse to commit evil.

aren't you people tired of telling lies against Islam and Muslims?.. if you can't bring proof from Quran or Prophet Muhammad... (saw).. just shut up..


You can only judge Islam by Quran and Prophet Muhammad (saw) .. not some Muslim countries or Muslim clerics..

DeathStroke007:
aren't you people tired of telling lies against Islam and Muslims?.. if you can't bring proof from Quran or Prophet Muhammad... (saw).. just shut up..


You can only judge Islam by Quran and Prophet Muhammad (saw) .. not some Muslim countries or Muslim clerics..

Muslim countries have enough imams and sheiks who understand and follow the sunnah of the prophet of islam. I wonder why it is only nigerian muslims that understand islam more than the arabs and the pakistanis. As a matter of fact, nigeria muslims, especially the yoruba muslim, are considered fake and irrelevant.

The quran specifically asked muslim husbands to admonish\beat their wives anytime they misbehave (quran 4:34). The islamic prophet also led by example by striking his favourite wife Aisha, whom he married when she was 6 years and mohammed 51 years, in the chest for going out alone without his approval. See hadith below, the narration was by Aisha herself:

Sahih muslim 4:2127, 'the prophet of allahh struck me in the chest and it caused me serios pain'. The prophet of allahh hit Aisha on the chest, why should a man hit a woman on the chest? This action is part of the sunnah that you must follow unless you are a fake muslim.

Sahih muslim 9:3506, mohammed's father-in-laws, Abu Bakr and Omar slapped their daughters (Aisha and Hafsa) for making the prophet of islam angry, right in the presence of mohammed. What did mohammed do? He smiled in approval of the actions of his father-in-laws.

Sahih Bukhari 72:715, a muslim woman came to mohammed to report his abusive husband to the islamic prophet. She showed the islamic prophet the injuries she sustained as a result of the beatings. What did the islam prophet say? That the woman should go back home and submit to the sexual urge of the abusive husband instead of scolding and stopping the man from further beating of his wife. What was Aisha reactions to mohammed's bad sense of judgement? She said and I quote, 'I have never seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women (muslim women)'.

So it will be disingenious of you to state that there is no misogyny in islam or among the muslim community, even when the opposite is true. The quran and the hadith cannot be wrong on this, as per the ways and manners muslim men treat muslim women, if they are to fully follow the sunnah of the islamic prophet.