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Igbos Have No King by Kenmatt(m): 11:11am On Mar 11, 2016
I salute you all.

I have been fallowing the verbal battle of supremacy among the Yoruba Kings. I find it interesting, not only interesting but also educating.

Yoruba is one among the three major ethnic groups in Nairaland.

As it is in Yoruba land, so it is in Hausa land. But the different is clear in Igbo land.

I stand to be challenged by any body, any where.

Igbos have no centralised king. Right from the out set, till date. This was the cogent reason the east was very difficult for the white men to colonise during the pre colonial rule. When they got to Sultan of Sokoto, Emir of Gwandu, Emir of Kano, Oba of Benin, Alafin of Oyo, Ooni of Ife, after convincing them, they would gather their subjects, and their subjects would yield to their persuasions and concur. Thereby making it easy to conquer the people even with their minds.

It was not easy for them in the East because no centralised King in the East.
Born out of my perspective, it was the "sturburness" the white men saw in Easterners during that period that degenerated into the so called "hatred" by the British men to the Easterners till date. Believe it or not.

There is a popular saying; Igbo enwe Eze". Meaning; Igbos do not and can never have King. Thus; a central king.

The so called "Eze ndi Igbo" you hear they attach to some names is just like a nick name or to shower encomium on him. Igbos have no king.

The community chiefs, village heads and even the so called town Ezes, can not give an order to the entire community and every one will stick to it. This is to show you how less their powers are. To be compared with when Ooni of Ife, Oba of Benin or Emir of Kano has given an instructions to his subordinates.

Its all good.

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Re: Igbos Have No King by johnydon22(m): 11:46am On Mar 11, 2016
True .. All the Chiefs and Monarchs we have today in Igbo land are products of the Colonial masters.

The ancient Igbo society lived in autonomous communities, contended and attached to that social circle.

they had no king but rather were ruled by the Strong elite rich and noble men in the community, they also practised true democracy because some of the times every male member of the community is summoned in meetings regarding the decisions for the welfare of the community.

And on rare occasions women too.

there is only 1 monarchy in Igbo land that has always being there and that is the only true traditional stool in the Igbo race and that is the stool of EZE NRI.

The Igbos believe that the Igbo race started from NRI so even though autonomous and not directly under the rule of NRI stool

every igbo is indirectly by virtue of their Igbo descent subjected and connected to the Ofo of the NRI stool.

Every other King in Igbo land is just a colonial institution.

We are democratic .. we don't bow to men.. Igbo enwe Eze smiley

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Re: Igbos Have No King by cckris: 12:16pm On Mar 11, 2016
Igbos have kings, only that Igbo kings don't have powers over life & death, or over peoples' farms & lands, just like most tribes in Nigeria.
Re: Igbos Have No King by Udmaster(m): 4:37pm On Mar 11, 2016
Kenmatt:
I salute you all.

I have been fallowing the verbal battle of supremacy among the Yoruba Kings. I find it interesting, not only interesting but also educating.

Yoruba is one among the three major ethnic groups in Nairaland.

As it is in Yoruba land, so it is in Hausa land. But the different is clear in Igbo land.

I stand to be challenged by any body, any where.

Igbos have no centralised king. Right from the out set, till date. This was the cogent reason the east was very difficult for the white men to colonise during the pre colonial rule. When they got to Sultan of Sokoto, Emir of Gwandu, Emir of Kano, Oba of Benin, Alafin of Oyo, Ooni of Ife, after convincing them, they would gather their subjects, and their subjects would yield to their persuasions and concur. Thereby making it easy to conquer the people even with their minds.

It was not easy for them in the East because no centralised King in the East.
Born out of my perspective, it was the "sturburness" the white men saw in Easterners during that period that degenerated into the so called "hatred" by the British men to the Easterners till date. Believe it or not.

There is a popular saying; Igbo enwe Eze". Meaning; Igbos do not and can never have King. Thus; a central king.

The so called "Eze ndi Igbo" you hear they attach to some names is just like a nick name or to shower encomium on him. Igbos have no king.

The community chiefs, village heads and even the so called town Ezes, can not give an order to the entire community and every one will stick to it. This is to show you how less their powers are. To be compared with when Ooni of Ife, Oba of Benin or Emir of Kano has given an instructions to his subordinates.

Its all good.
Igbos mixed Royalty with a democratic style which is build around Individualism.
IGBOS HAVE PRE-COLONIAL KINGDOMS BUT THEY ARE FEW.
1) The Oldest Kingdom in Nigeria history is NRI KINGDOM and it is an Igbo kingdom.
Eze Nri Enwealana II Onyeso CFR is the custodian of Igbo Culture, Tradition and Deities, he does not come out all the time, because he is seen as a half mortal.
Even the Ancient Benin empire related well with the Nri Kingdom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri

2. Nnewi Kingdom- it was formed around 1408AD and Igwe Kenneth Orizu JP is the 20th IGWE NNEWI and a respect monarch among Igbos.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igwe_of_Nnewi_kingdom

3. Enugwu Aguleri - It is as old as the Nri Kingdom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enugwu_Aguleri

4. AROCHUKWU Confederacy- Found in Abia state, it was est. Around 1700 and they were well known for ancient slave trade.
Eze Aro Mazi Okoro- respected very well in Abia State. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arochukwu

... Obi of Onitcha is also respected.
Igbo Monarchs are matured and you will see them in media arguing over irrelevant things.
Re: Igbos Have No King by Kenmatt(m): 6:34pm On Mar 11, 2016
Udmaster:

Igbos mixed Royalty with a democratic style which is build around Individualism.
IGBOS HAVE PRE-COLONIAL KINGDOMS BUT THEY ARE FEW.
1) The Oldest Kingdom in Nigeria history is NRI KINGDOM and it is an Igbo kingdom.
Eze Nri Enwealana II Onyeso CFR is the custodian of Igbo Culture, Tradition and Deities, he does not come out all the time, because he is seen as a half mortal.
Even the Ancient Benin empire related well with the Nri Kingdom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri

2. Nnewi Kingdom- it was formed around 1408AD and Igwe Kenneth Orizu JP is the 20th IGWE NNEWI and a respect monarch among Igbos.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igwe_of_Nnewi_kingdom

3. Enugwu Aguleri - It is as old as the Nri Kingdom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enugwu_Aguleri

4. AROCHUKWU Confederacy- Found in Abia state, it was est. Around 1700 and they were well known for ancient slave trade.
Eze Aro Mazi Okoro- respected very well in Abia State. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arochukwu

... Obi of Onitcha is also respected.
Igbo Monarchs are matured and you will see them in media arguing over irrelevant things.

You said "the oldest Kingdom in Nigeria history is NRI Kingdom and it is an Igbo Kingdom".

IGBOS HAVE NO KING There is nothing like a kingdom or Igbo kingdom. Igbos have no centralised ruler. The Eze NRI you are talking about is believed to be a son of an ansestral father; NRI him self, whose name was Eri. Eri or Nri is an ancestral father of all Igbos and not a King. Some of his son then were Awkuzu, Nando, Nteje, and son on. I will elaborate on this on the next topic.

So therefore, NRI is an ancestral home of all Igbos but Eze NRI is not a King of all Igbo. Igbos as a whole do not practice monarchical system of rulership. It was Eri that was an ancestral father of all Igbos.
Re: Igbos Have No King by Udmaster(m): 7:48pm On Mar 11, 2016
Kenmatt:


You said "the oldest Kingdom in Nigeria history is NRI Kingdom and it is an Igbo Kingdom".

IGBOS HAVE NO KING There is nothing like a kingdom or Igbo kingdom. Igbos have no centralised ruler. The Eze NRI you are talking about is believed to be a son of an ansestral father; NRI him self, whose name was Eri. Eri or Nri is an ancestral father of all Igbos and not a King. Some of his son then were Awkuzu, Nando, Nteje, and son on. I will elaborate on this on the next topic.

So therefore, NRI is an ancestral home of all Igbos but Eze NRI is not a King of all Igbo. Igbos as a whole do not practice monarchical system of rulership. It was Eri that was an ancestral father of all Igbos.
what kind of dumb analysis is this, A big tribe do not have a central king, do yorubas have a central king.
Do Ooni of Ife rule over the Oyo people who have an Alaafin?
Do Emir of Kano rule over the Sokoto people?
So what do you mean by centralized king?
- Nri is a kingdom and the oldest in Nigeria, the records are there.
I hate arguing with people with no intellectual capacity ... WE ARE IGBOS AND PROUD.. Nri is the center of Igbo civilization - deities, foods, soups, counting our market days, festival, beauty etc.
Re: Igbos Have No King by Nobody: 12:55am On Mar 12, 2016
Udmaster:
what kind of dumb analysis is this, A big tribe do not have a central king, do yorubas have a central king.
Do Ooni of Ife rule over the Oyo people who have an Alaafin?
Do Emir of Kano rule over the Sokoto people?
So what do you mean by centralized king?
- Nri is a kingdom and the oldest in Nigeria, the records are there.
I hate arguing with people with no intellectual capacity ... WE ARE IGBOS AND PROUD.. Nri is the center of Igbo civilization - deities, foods, soups, counting our market days, festival, beauty etc.
bro just get the message, absolute monarchy is not an igbo thing

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