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Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 1:32pm On May 16, 2016
Syncan and Ubenedictus, what do you have to say about this verse?
"...But if thou wilt enter into life, obey the commandments" Matt. 19:17
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:38pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Ubenedictus, if you say the Law of GOD has been abolished, does this verse agree with you?

"All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal." Psa. 119:160
His moral laws ie rigteous law are eternal, the same cant be said for d large ceremonial and judicial laws in d old testament, the bible says those ones are transitory 2 cor 3:7
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:43pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Where does the Bible ask us to make a request to Mary?

Did Jesus ask us to pray to Mary or make any request from her?

Is Mary able to grant you anything?
The bible tell me d prayer of d righteous is efficacious, it tell me that xtians can request prayer from each other and dat those in heaven present our prayer to God. the word of God is true, those in heaven present my request to GOD and i can ask anyone to pray 4 me so why not ask mary?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Syncan(m): 1:44pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Syncan, what do you have to say about the verses below?

“Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2.

"Sin is the transgression of the law" 1 Jn 3:4


This is an exhortation that those who have merited from the saving grace of Christ's redemptive sacrifice, do not take the mercy of God for granted and continue to live in sin, for this is a wrong notion that once saved, always saved. That's why he warned saying: Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. 1Cor.10:12 and he went further to say why, when he said :For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost...If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame., Heb.6:4-6
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:51pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach
men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matt. 5:17-19

How is it then you say we are no longer required to obey GOD's law?
Galatians 3:19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring would come to whom the promise had been made; and it was ordained through angels by a
mediator.3:24
Therefore the law was our tutor until
Christ came, so that we might be justified by faith. 3:25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer subject to a tutor.

d purpose of d law has been fulfilled in CHRIST.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 1:56pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
His moral laws ie rigteous law are eternal, the same cant be said for d large ceremonial and judicial laws in d old testament, the bible says those ones are transitory 2 cor 3:7

What is GOD's moral law?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 2:00pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Syncan and Ubenedictus, what do you have to say about this verse?

"...But if thou wilt enter into life, obey the commandments" Matt. 19:17
Which commandment do u obey? that of Jesus or that of moses?

remember d law of moses was trasistory 2 cor 3:7, was a ministration of death, a curse and we are no longer under it.

so tell me is it d law of death or d law of grace dat u follow?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 2:03pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Syncan, what do you have to say about the verses below?

“Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2.

"Sin is the transgression of the law" 1 Jn 3:4
WHAT LAW ARE YOU UNDER?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 2:18pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


What is GOD's moral law?
D ones repeated by Jesus and the new testament, d ones writting in d heart, d others are judicial and ritual laws.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:49pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
D ones repeated by Jesus and the new testament, d ones writting in d heart, d others are judicial and ritual laws.

Can you please tell me what GOD's moral law is? State it.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:50pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Galatians 3:19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring would come to whom the promise had been made; and it was ordained through angels by a
mediator.3:24
Therefore the law was our tutor until
Christ came, so that we might be justified by faith. 3:25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer subject to a tutor.

d purpose of d law has been fulfilled in CHRIST.

What law is now guiding your life as a Christian?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:51pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Which commandment do u obey? that of Jesus or that of moses?

remember d law of moses was trasistory 2 cor 3:7, was a ministration of death, a curse and we are no longer under it.

so tell me is it d law of death or d law of grace dat u follow?

I'm under the law of GOD.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:52pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Which commandment do u obey? that of Jesus or that of moses?

remember d law of moses was trasistory 2 cor 3:7, was a ministration of death, a curse and we are no longer under it.

so tell me is it d law of death or d law of grace dat u follow?

Why are you beating about the bush?

Which commandments was Jesus talking about in Matt. 19:17?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:09pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus, where is Mary now?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:54pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:

I'm under the law of GOD.
nO u are under d law of moses
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:55pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Ubenedictus, where is Mary now?
in heaven
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:00pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
nO u are under d law of moses
LOL. Are tryna force me under the law of Moses?
I said I'm under the law of GOD.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:01pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
in heaven
When did Mary ascend to Heaven? grin
Prove to me from the Bible that Mary is in Heaven.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 4:08pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Can you please tell me what GOD's moral law is? State it.
A sumary goes thus
'u shall love d Lord ur God with all ur heart, all ur soul and all ur strength and ur neighbour as ur self.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:11pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
A sumary goes thus
'u shall love d Lord ur God with all ur heart, all ur soul and all ur strength and ur neighbour as ur self.

How can we love GOD with all our hearts?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 4:19pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


When did Mary ascend to Heaven? grin

Prove to me from the Bible that Mary is in Heaven.
Is she in hell? What is ur arguement and how does it relate to d topic
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:21pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Is she in hell? What is ur arguement and how does it relate to d topic

Prove to me from the Bible that Mary is in Heaven. grin
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 4:22pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


LOL. Are tryna force me under the law of Moses?

I said I'm under the law of GOD.
U ARE THE ONE SHOUTING SABBAT, SABBAT, even after d apostle paul say a new testament christian is free from d observance of days, d fact u disagree with paul and still shout sabbat means u are stil under d mosaic law.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:25pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
U ARE THE ONE SHOUTING SABBAT, SABBAT, even after d apostle paul say a new testament christian is free from d observance of days, d fact u disagree with paul and still shout sabbat means u are stil under d mosaic law.

What is the mosaic law?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 4:36pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Prove to me from the Bible that Mary is in Heaven. grin
SORRY, this does not relate to the topic, open another thread and i'll b happy to oblige.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 4:37pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


How can we love GOD with all our hearts?
I will allow u figure dat out by urself.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:38pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
I will allow u figure dat out by urself.

I thought you knew much about the law?

How can we love GOD with all our heart?
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Blackfire(m): 4:41pm On May 16, 2016
analice107:
Slow down with "For me part"

i don't understand
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 5:11pm On May 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:

What is the mosaic law?
613+10 LAW FOUND IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:16pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
613+10 LAW FOUND IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.

grin grin grin grin My people perish for lack of knowledge indeed.

So tell me, what does this mean?

"...Only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them, and according to all that my servant Moses commanded them" 2 Kngs 21:8
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by blueAgent(m): 8:35pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Incase you dont know, d word 'pray' simply means to make a request, to ask, there is nothing sinful or wrong in making a request to someone.

the bible passage that confirms the honouring of mary is luke 1:48b "for behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed"


Applying your logic to this Bible verses.

Exodus 20:12King James Version (KJV).

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy
days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

Deuteronomy 5:16New King James
Version (NKJV).

‘Honor your father and your mother, as the
Lord your God has commanded you, that your
days may be long, and that it may be well with
you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

Exodus 7:1King James Version (KJV).

And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have
made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy
brother shall be thy prophet.

Applying your Logic .means we also need to pray to our parents. becos this Bible verses also talks about us honouring our parents.
So the question is , why are you not praying to your parents.


The second verse Exdous7:1
God told Moses that he has made him a god unto Pharaoh. So why don't you Catholic people also ,pray to Moses who God made a god ,against Pharaoh
Re: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by blueAgent(m): 8:50pm On May 16, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Incase you dont know, d word 'pray' simply means to make a request, to ask, there is nothing sinful or wrong in making a request to someone.

the bible passage that confirms the honouring of mary is luke 1:48b "for behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed"


Go and read about the Mary you people pray to. The Biblical Mary was a horrible sinner (James 2:10), who needed a Savior (Luke 1:47), and told others to do what Jesus commanded (John 2:5). The Biblical Mary was not a Perpetual Virgin (Matthew 13:55-56), was not Immaculately Conceived (Romans 3:23), wasn't Bodily Assumed into Heaven (Hebrews 9:27), and she doesn't intercede on our behalf (1st Timothy 2:5... "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"wink. The Blessed Virgin Mary of the Catholic religion is straight from Hell. Oh! Listen my friend, the Catholic Church is a prisonhouse of religion! Catholics have churchianity without Christianity, and religion without truth. From the cradle to the casket, the Catholic Church offers people a package deal; but it's a guaranteed road straight into the depths of Hellfire and damnation. In Luke 17:21, Jesus stated that the Kingdom of God is within you; not within a religious organization. Many people want an organized religion that allows them to touch, taste, see, and feel what they're trusting in for eternal life. However, true salvation, which is obtained only by faith in Christ Jesus, is of the heart (Romans 10:10).

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