@Dafdlan,

If the mercy of "allah" is the type exhibited in islamic nations today then pls count me out.
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If God wishes in his mercy he will not count u out and if he wishes he will count u totally out of his mercy.


BUT I PRAY FOR U TO SEE HIS MERCY. But i will never call u names in wish u hav bin doing, u can ride on in calling names but that never hold any water.

Mercy of God on u shaaaaaa.

is it just me or do the women seem more concerned about Ramadan than even the men? So many women coming out of the woodworks to preach their "gospel" right now.

anyway, na women full religion most times.

Normally its olabowale, babs,abuzola, jarus and some other males who are the resident nairaland imams.

The women are taking over though it could be a temporary Ramadan thing. Otherwise we're looking at a loss of authority here. I doubt that's allowed in Islam- no female imams.

alimat 2:

@Dafdlan,

If the mercy of "allah" is the type exhibited in islamic nations today then pls count me out.
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If God wishes in his mercy he will not count u out and if he wishes he will count u totally out of his mercy.


BUT I PRAY FOR U TO SEE HIS MERCY. But i will never call u names in wish u hav bin doing, u can ride on in calling names but that never hold any water.

Mercy of God on u shaaaaaa.

you are not getting the point . . . allah has NO mercy to give. Take a good look at muslims in islamic countries today, where is allah's mercy?

davidylan:

you are not getting the point . . . allah has NO mercy to give. Take a good look at muslims in islamic countries today, where is allah's mercy?

What ignorance does to man has no bounds! If only you knew the meaning of Allah, you wouldn't say this for He is exactly whom you claim to worship but use the word God for

davidylan:

Look at this brainwashed hypocrite. If the quran is allah's word why did he allow satan's words to enter before suddenly remembering to abrogate them?

Allah is the wise and sends particular prophets to a particular people. Jesus to the lost sheep of the Isrealites. Moses was not sent to you, and is the reason you shouldn't be jew and his laws were for his people. Muhammad was sent to this generation and should be followed by all.now i guess you understand.

if you ask to buy rice and given beans, would you accept let alone pay for it?. That does not mean you would not recognise the beans seller as a business woman? THis is the reason we respect all of the prophets even though there messages are not for us.

The coming of the Quran is to present to us the message for this generation and we believe in the bible as the word of Allah and dissociate ourselves from the additions to and subtractions from it

Tonye-t:

rtflmao, i dont know why they keep imitating the real things all the time, i even heard someone saying that Abraham was Ibrahim , and John was the same as Yohanna while David was same as Dauda

gooshh i cant help laffing-my-fat-ass-all-over-the-floor

At this age and time, you are just hearing of this? It does explain a lot of things. How then are you convinced of what you do if you dont know of others. the similitude is of a boy who thinks his father has got the biggest farm because he'd never been to someone else's fathers. Guess u'r xtian cos ur pops and mama are. Step up boy!

KunleOshob:

@Uplawal
What are you ranting about? If you can believe a man who claims to be a prophet from God that has no qualms about having inapproriate sexual relationships with little girls, i don't see an reason why you should have bproblems with saint Paul. There is nothing contradictory in paul's teachings and the gospel of christ. I would be willing to explain to you further if you genuinely wish to know the truth.

When i started reading the post, i thought it was cool the way you answered the questions even to abusive comments but suddenly it changed with this and i realised you were not so saintly as it seemed, and you are only being human.

Of course there are fake pastors but you don't judge christianity by them am sure. Why then would the behaviour of some muslim determine Islam? Always think both ways and open your eyes, ears and everything to the truth.do not be bias

uplawal:

@kunle-osho,
now tell me which faith is st paul talking about here, even Jesus fulfilled the same laws and u wanna come here and start believing what your st paul said,like having faith in jesus since he was the one that made him divine,so if u have faith in him, ure no longer under the laws whereas jesus himself dnt come to abolish the laws but to fulfill them,since he had made u people think jesus died and is only by that grace u can be saved, so why do u obey the 5commandment and why dnt u just get gun and start killing people,he also talk about circumcision of mind instead of flesh, i see why all this oyinbos dnt get circumcised,i pity u o,u dnt know st paul was against jesus teachingsand he only used jesus as a coverup to deceive the world, if u dnt know hes an anti-christ, anyway, the earlier u know the better ure prevented from going to hell fire

One of the reasons the bible has so many errors and contradictions

And the Quran has none?

none at all

Then, answer the following questions with appropriate quranic verses:

1. How many angels talked to Mary?

2. Was Pharaoh drowned or saved?

3. Will all Christians go to hell?

4. Which came first, heaven or earth?

5. What was man created from?

6. Who was the first Muslim?

deols:

What ignorance does to man has no bounds! If only you knew the meaning of Allah, you wouldn't say this for He is exactly whom you claim to worship but use the word God for

The "ignorance" canard again when they cant explain the illogicality of islam.
Just go to wikipedia . . . the REAL MEANING of allah is clear - al + ilah = the god! I didnt put it there myself.

Besides what about abdallah the father of mohammad? So he knew about this God all along but never saw a mosque all his life?

deols:

Allah is the wise and sends particular prophets to a particular people. Jesus to the lost sheep of the Isrealites. Moses was not sent to you, and is the reason you shouldn't be jew and his laws were for his people. Muhammad was sent to this generation and should be followed by all.now i guess you understand.

if you ask to buy rice and given beans, would you accept let alone pay for it?. That does not mean you would not recognise the beans seller as a business woman? THis is the reason we respect all of the prophets even though there messages are not for us.

The coming of the Quran is to present to us the message for this generation and we believe in the bible as the word of Allah and dissociate ourselves from the additions to and subtractions from it

What absolute rubbish. Why did allah send (bar mohammad) ONLY JEWS AS PROPHETS AND ONLY TO JEWS ALONE? What was special about the jews to allah? Why did allah ignore ishmael and the rest of us?

deols:

One of the reasons the bible has so many errors and contradictions

i'll take errors over satanic verses any day.

deols:

When i started reading the post, i thought it was cool the way you answered the questions even to abusive comments but  suddenly it changed with this and i realised you were not so saintly as it seemed, and you are only being human.

Of course there are fake pastors but you don't judge christianity by them am sure. Why then would the behaviour of some muslim determine Islam? Always think both ways and open your eyes, ears and everything to the truth.do not be bias

the problem is you are completely brainwashed that every truth pointed out to you automatically becomes "abusive comments". Its not your fault, its the way muslims are naturally programmed. A fellow muslim like you popped up on my IM feeling like a overactive peacock. I asked him a few pointed questions, made him face a few FACTS (rather than the lies he was fed at the mosque) and suddenly he started talking of hatred and trying to be civil. It wasnt long before he made a silly excuse and ran away. His basis for feeling hate towards me? - That i spread darkness in his heart.

Take a good look at Kunleoshob's post . . . this is the only thing that would count for "abusive comments" there - If you can believe a man who claims to be a prophet from God that has no qualms about having inapproriate sexual relationships with little girls, i don't see an reason why you should have bproblems with saint Paul.

What was abusive here? IS IT NOT TRUE THAT MOHAMMAD WAS WITH A 6 YR OLD GIRL?

Or do you mean the actions of mohammad shld not be used to judge other muslims? that sounds pretty odd to me . . .

deols:

At this age and time, you are just hearing of this? It does explain a lot of things. How then are you convinced of what you do if you dont know of others. the similitude is of a boy who thinks his father has got the biggest farm because he'd never been to someone else's fathers. Guess u'r xtian cos your pops and mama are. Step up boy!

and you're not muslim because of the exact same reason? What a hypocrite.

@Davidlyan,what sort of man are u,i wonder how ur lady cope with ur irritating ways? i can't just imagine,ure a big and useless hypocrite who thinks he can judge anyhow,av read ur posts on many thread here on nairaland,one of many that caught my attention was when u boldly called a fellow nairalander a WRETCHED FOOL and host of others,u now pointing accusing fingers, u irritate man

uplawal:

@Davidlyan,what sort of man are u,i wonder how your lady cope with your irritating ways? i can't just imagine,ure a big and useless hypocrite who thinks he can judge anyhow,av read your posts on many thread here on nairaland,one of many that caught my attention was when u boldly called a fellow nairalander a WRETCHED FOOL and host of others,u now pointing accusing fingers, u irritate man

err what has this to do with the quran and its many problems? 

allah's quran contains WORSE NAMES for christians and jews, doesnt that bother you? Of course not hypocrite

@davidlyan coward, and let me tell u, the Holy Quran is without problem, its u xtians that av the biggest problems to be solved by the Quran, and to the other one , if u read the Quran ,u people are really warned just  because he does not want u to end in hell fire since ure all ABORISHAS

uplawal:

@davidlyan coward, and let me tell u, the Holy Quran is without problem, its u xtians that av the biggest problems to be solved by the Quran, and to the other one , if u read the Quran ,u people are really warned just  because he does not want u to end in hell fire since ure all ABORISHAS

the only coward i see her is you. You who cower in fear, cover up your insecurities with curse words and hiding under the table.

I wonder how we are the ones who need our problems solved by the quran when muslims will forever run to the bible any minute their quran is called into question.

I've never seen a christian trying to smuggle Jesus Christ into the quran, muslims spend 80% of their time struggling desperately to smuggle mohammad into the book of deuteronomy. so much for "problems".

Abdallah was an idol worshiper. Go figure.

@davidlyan,see who says someone is covering up, why on earth will i cover up with curse words,and where av i cursed u here,or have u forgotten its u that rain curses like the ACCURSED ONE, when i am very sure am on a straight path, am not shaking in ISLAM unlike xtians that are dead in their belief

I see you guys have turned this thread to a war zone, that ys not the intention of this thread as it is designed to help christians to be able to discern the truthas we have all sorts of doctrines contantly being introduced to chritianity today, i would also like suggest to the muslims to do the same for their "faith" as their religion is now synonymous with terrorism which is evil, some claim that the terrorists are not true muslims but then again it as been proven time and again that they draw their inspiration from the quoran and the teachings/examples of mohammed. You guys should go and remove the log in your eyes instead of bothering about the speck in another man's eye.

Philippians 3:17-19:
17 Dear brothers and sisters, pattern your lives after mine, and learn from those who follow our example. 18 For I have told you often before, and I say it again with tears in my eyes, that there are many whose conduct shows they are really enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 They are headed for destruction. Their god is their appetite[money from tithes and other twisted doctrines], they brag about shameful things, and they think only about this life here on earth.

Paul lived an exemplary selfless life that true christian leaders ought to emulate, he was not into material things[talkless of prosperity gospel] and he also worked to support himself, he did not constitute himself into a burden for his church and church collections made by him were mostly used to take care of the poor and the needy. These selfless example Paul gave to the church to follow as been totally abandoned by our so called christian leaders today who are more interested in their bellies.

Colossians 2:8:

8 Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense[reminds me of Pastor Oyaks] that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ.

Colossians 2:16-23:

16 So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink[some pastors condenm brethen who consume alcoholic beverages], or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths[mmmmh means sunday worship is not even compulsary]. 17 For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality. 18 Don’t let anyone condemn you by insisting on pious self-denial or the worship of angels, saying they have had visions about these things. Their sinful minds have made them proud, 19 and they are not connected to Christ, the head of the body. For he holds the whole body together with its joints and ligaments, and it grows as God nourishes it.

20 You have died with Christ, and he has set you free from the spiritual powers of this world. So why do you keep on following the rules of the world, such as, 21 “Don’t handle! Don’t taste! Don’t touch!”? 22 Such rules are mere human teachings about things that deteriorate as we use them. 23 These rules may seem wise because they require strong devotion, pious self-denial, and severe bodily discipline. But they provide no help in conquering a person’s evil desires.

1 Thessalonians 5:20-21:
20 Do not despise inspired messages. 21 but test everything that is said. Hold on to what is good.

Wow this is a nice one we can learn from. Here Paul is admonishing us to put to test all we are taught as christians and hold on to that which is true. We are all witnesses to how lots of people around us tithe of their meagre income[which is better used to take care of their families] and yet they continue to lack year in year out despite the promises of plenty their pastors preach if they tithe. Although a lot of them continue to delude them selves that the tithing is working just becos they are slightly better off than some one else they know. The truth is that we should put to test and verify all we are taught, we are not underany obligation as christians to believe or follow whatever pastor says if it does not conform with undiluted truths established in the scriptures.

PS: Mordern day tithing is a dilution of biblical tithing.[or better stated twisted version of biblical tithing.]

2 Thessalonians 3:6-8:
6 And now, dear brothers and sisters, we give you this command in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ: Stay away from all believers[a] who live idle lives and don’t follow the tradition they received[b] from us. 7 For you know that you ought to imitate us[I hope our pastors in the house are still reading]. We were not idle when we were with you. 8 We never accepted food from anyone without paying for it . We worked hard day and night so we would not be a burden to any of you .

Now that is really refreshing I wonder which version of the bible our pastors read that they fail to see all this beautiful exemplary writings in the bible. I guess it is a case of picking, choosing and twisting which one serves their belly the most.

@kunleosho, pls save ur preaching cos ure ignorantly putting charcoal of hellfire on your head if u dnt know,enough of ur evil doctrine sermon

uplawal:

@kunleosho, pls save your preaching cos ure ignorantly putting charcoal of hellfire on your head if u dnt know,enough of your evil doctrine sermon

You that you are living in darkness is still talking, at least the christians have hope as they have seen the light and they just need to study the scriptures better so they don't get mis-lead. Your own case is really pathetic, the only compesation is that you might have seven virgin men waiting for you in hell to do their stuff.

@kunle-oshb, i truly pity ur soul, since ure ignorant of the true light, i pray u dnt end up in hell,thats if u accept ISLAM

uplawal:

@kunleosho, pls save your preaching cos ure ignorantly putting charcoal of hellfire on your head if u dnt know,enough of your evil doctrine sermon

muslims too claim hellfire. What's left that they havent borrowed from christianity?

@davidlyan,point of correction, this is no borrowing from xtianity,theres repentance and hell is more real in ISLAM compare to christianity, so wise up,how about ur nairaland wife OSISI?

Huh, I'm bored.

why now,there is more to discuss on nairaland so u cant be bored

[b]kunle,
talk to me here.
jaffifredrick@gmail.com
i'll appreciate it,if u will.[/b