joyandfaith:

You can find penguins in captivity in every continent, however all known species of penguins live naturally in the southern hemisphere. Contrary to general belief, Penguins do not live only in extremely cold conditions. Outside Antarctica, Penguins usually inhabit desertic regions and rocky islands where there are not a large number of land predators, so their incapacity to fly is not an issue.
Their habitat range from the ice shelf on Antarctica, like the emperor penguin, to some temperate islands near the equator, like the Galapagos penguin. Also, there are penguins living in South Africa and Australia.

Lilbrown007:
Isnt The Dead Sea Scroll Older Than The Bible??

joyandfaith:

you know nothing about dead sea scroll.
dead sea scroll are mostly bible documents and they prove autheticity of bible.
check components of dead sea scroll online.

Lilbrown007:

Can U Please Provide Some Pic Of Penguins In Desert??
And I Don't Mean Beach o

Lilbrown007:

Nope It Contradict The Bible!! Base On Its Contents Though They Might Agree A Little On Somethings

Lilbrown007:

Nope It Contradict The Bible!! Base On Its Contents Though They Might Agree A Little On Somethings

joyandfaith:



http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/wild/untamed-americas/videos/desert-penguins/

joyandfaith:


can u list components of dead sea scrol? dead sea scrolls are oldest bible manuscripts available.


http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/featured-scrolls

The discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls in a remote Judean Desert cave in 1947 is widely considered the greatest archaeological event of the twentieth century. Bedouin treasure hunters and archaeologists ultimately found the remains of hundreds of ancient scrolls. These fragile pieces of parchment and papyrus, including the oldest existing copies of the Hebrew Bible, were preserved for two thousand years by the hot, dry desert climate and the darkness of the caves where they were placed. The scrolls provide an unprecedented picture of the diverse religious beliefs of ancient Judaism, and of daily life during the turbulent Second Temple period when Jesus lived and preached.

Lilbrown007:
Careful scrutiny of the Dead Sea Scrolls along with Gnostic literature lend to the idea that there were many sects of Judaism spread throughout the Greco Roman world. The historical Jesus was a part of this movement but not its founder ultimately initiating a schism that separated what we think of as Christianity from the extremely conservative Essene sect-he was a real person!-but not a God or miracle worker!-the miracles of the NT (evidence from the DSS indicate which was written in 1st century AD) are metaphorical/symbolic of the changes he made to this dispersed/Gentile version of Judaism which was spreading through the Greco Roman world. For these reasons he was referred to as The Wicked Priest in the DSS, which were written by people who became his enemies.

part of the Controversy of the Scrolls arises two things. 1st from people’s misunderstanding of the inaccuracies of carbon dating and its inability to give a perfect consistent date-however internal analysis reveals it to be from the Herodian period as they criticize marriage practices known to be of the Herods!
2nd-In my opinion there is a struggle between Jewish scholarship and Christian scholarrs-both of which would like to claim the scrolls and discredit the other group-the truth is that 1st century Christianity as well as 1st century Judaism is far more varied its forms than modern thinkers believe.

The world stands on the precipice of a great revolution in thinking in terms of what Christianity was and will become. Most importantly-to deny the existence of a fully human historical Jesus does a great disservice to both the Jewish and Christian legacies.

Lilbrown007:

Did U See That White Marker On The Pic?? WHAT does That Say About The Pic??
And Besides Thats Not Desert That Look Like White Clay!

joyandfaith:



we are talking about oldest book in human history. bible is the oldest book. take it or leave. this dicussion is not about whether all jews accepted or are accepting jesus as son of God. besides, inspired Bible jews also wrote other books. in time of jesus there are various sects in judaism. mind u judaists do not really follow laws of moses, they also follow tradition. jesus condemned jewish leaders in his days because they followed men tradition and ignored God.

joyandfaith:


have u ever visited desert? nationalgeograhic is best prove i have. besides, take your times to check penguin in wikipedia. they are penguin in deserts!!

Lilbrown007:

MAN TRADITION MEANING??
Was It Man Tradition To Stone A Woman To Death If She Comites Adultery??
Is It Man Tradition To Penelize Someone If They Work On Day Of The Sabbath??

Lilbrown007:
They Are Not N That Pic U Posted Was Either Fake Or That's Just Mud U Cant Did Into Desert Sand Like The Way The Penguin In That Pic Did

joyandfaith:


that mean you do not have what it takes to challenge Bible if you do not know national geograhic

joyandfaith:


you need to understand bible before you can condemn it. Do more research on men tradition that Jesus said regarding jewish religion leaders.

Lilbrown007:

WHY Don't U State It Here?? LETS Refute It?

Lilbrown007:

I Didnt Do Geography In School But I Can Recognize A Desert When I See One

Lilbrown007:

WHY Don't U State It Here?? LETS Refute It?

joyandfaith:



nationalgeograhic is a tv channels available online and on dstv. you do not need to study geography to appreciate to grab the message.

joyandfaith:

Disapproved Traditions. The Jewish religious leaders, though, had added to the written Word many verbal traditions that they viewed as indispensable to true worship. Paul (Saul), as a Pharisee before his conversion to Christianity, was unusually zealous to follow the traditions of Judaism. These would, of course, include the unobjectionable ones as well as the bad ones. But by following the “commands of men as doctrines,” he was led to be a persecutor of Christians. ( ) For instance, they ‘did not eat unless they washed their hands up to the elbow, holding fast the tradition of the men of former times.’ ( ) Among those men, this practice was not for hygienic purposes, but it was a ceremonious ritual that supposedly had religious merit. Christ showed that they had no basis for criticizing his disciples for not following that and other unnecessary “commands of men.” ( ) Furthermore, by their tradition regarding “corban” (a gift dedicated to God) the religious leaders had made God’s Word invalid, overstepping the commandment of God.

www.jw.org

Lilbrown007:

What Of When Jesus "Work" On The Sabbath Was That Also A Tradition Or A Law!??

Lilbrown007:
Like I Said I Know A Desert When I See One!!

joyandfaith:


do you believe Bible as words of God? if you do i can continue discussion.
you guys just argue aimlessly online.

Lilbrown007:

Now U Are Evading?? Run!!
I Don't Cause Its The World Of Men But U Are The One Who Believes Its The Word Of "God" So U Are The One To Do The "PROVING" U Could Keep Evading My Question Without Answering Them U Know Y I Will Win?? LIKE U Just Noticed Now The Bible "Word Of God" Contradict Its Self So Bad...And Don't Think I Haven't Study The Bible Cause I have And I Do Understand It A 100%

Lilbrown007:

What Of When Jesus "Work" On The Sabbath Was That Also A Tradition Or A Law!??

joyandfaith:


you are wrong. jw is a faith based organization. jw believe in miracles recorded in Bible but do not believe the so-called miracles of many churches today. there is biblical basis for that. Faith does not mean believing in anything without reasoning. in fact bible encourages reasoning. jw are dogmatic about their beliefs.

Are Faith and Reason Incompatible?
“FAITH is a negation of reason,” writes British philosopher A. C. Grayling. His words sum up the feelings of countless writers and philosophers who over the centuries have claimed that faith and reason are incompatible.
Some religious beliefs do fly in the face of all reason. But consider this: Many strongly held scientific beliefs have proved to be wrong. Does that mean that all scientific beliefs are wrong or are not based on reason? Why view religious beliefs any differently? In fact, the faith described in the Bible does not exist without knowledge but is, instead, solidly based on knowledge and sound reason. As you review the evidence, see how true faith and reason are compatible.
Faith Firmly Based on Reason
The Bible says, for example, that if your worship is to be “acceptable to God,” it must be “a sacred service with your power of reason.” In other words, you must worship God “in a way that is worthy of thinking beings.” ( ; The Jerusalem Bible) So the faith described in the Bible is not something blind and irrational, or a leap of faith, as some have called it. And it is not credulity. Rather, it is something you have thought through carefully—resulting in trust in God and his Word, which is firmly based on reason.
Of course, if you are to reason properly, you need accurate information. Even the most powerful computer programs designed on solid principles of logic will come up with some very strange conclusions if they are fed inaccurate data. Likewise, the quality of your faith will depend greatly on what you hear or on how dependable the information you feed your mind proves to be. Appropriately, the Bible says that “faith follows the thing heard.”—
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A fundamental requirement for faith is “an accurate knowledge of truth.” ( ) Only “the truth,” says the Bible, “will set you free,” free from misleading beliefs, whether they are scientific or religious. ( ) The Bible warns you not to put faith “in every word.” ( ) Rather, it says that you should “make sure of all things”—or test out the things you hear before believing them. ( ) Why should you do research and test out your beliefs? Because faith based on falsehood is only a delusion. Some noble-minded people from the ancient city of Beroea set a fine example in acquiring proper faith. Even though these individuals really wanted to believe what Christian missionaries taught them, they made a point of “carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.”— .
Building Faith in the Bible
What, though, if you are unsure of the reliability of the Bible? How can you build your confidence in it as a source of accurate knowledge? Well, how do you build your confidence in people? Surely, it is by getting to know them—by watching how they behave over a period of time and seeing how their conduct turns out. Why not do the same with the Bible?
The Bible describes true faith as “the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.” ( ) Clearly, far from being naive, a person with real faith has based his beliefs on a careful scrutiny of all available data. Reasoning on such information produces the conviction that even things that cannot be seen with the literal eye are, nonetheless, realities.
What, though, if what you learn seems to contradict some of your deeply held beliefs? Should you just ignore it? Of course not. There may well be times when it is eminently reasonable to consider powerful evidence that appears to contradict what you believe. In the Bible, God promises to reward sincere individuals who search for truth by granting them knowledge, discernment, and thinking ability.— .
The kind of faith built on what the Bible teaches is compatible with reason. What kind of faith do you have? Many people have “inherited” their religious beliefs and have never seriously examined them in the light of reason. Yet, it is not a sign of disrespect to examine what you believe so as to ‘prove to yourself’ that your thinking is in harmony with God’s Word. ( ) The Bible admonishes us to “test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God.” ( ) If you do that, you will be in a position, even when your beliefs are challenged, to “make a defense before everyone that demands of you a reason for your hope. 1 pet 3:15

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102011016

joyandfaith:

You can find penguins in captivity in every continent, however all known species of penguins live naturally in the southern hemisphere. Contrary to general belief, Penguins do not live only in extremely cold conditions. Outside Antarctica, Penguins usually inhabit desertic regions and rocky islands where there are not a large number of land predators, so their incapacity to fly is not an issue.
Their habitat range from the ice shelf on Antarctica, like the emperor penguin, to some temperate islands near the equator, like the Galapagos penguin. Also, there are penguins living in South Africa and Australia.

HardMirror:

So why can't we find some penguins in the northern hemisphere? At least the distance is shorter than going all the way to the south. Do you know how many years it would take a clumpsy penguin to walk to the southern hemisphere? It would have reproduced so much that many penguins would have gone north instead and some even stay back in Mesopotemia. How come no kangaroos in africa even though they would thrive well here?