HCpaul:


All that was when I was mentally captured by your religion. I did all that in defending your fairytails.

Just prove the above.

LMAOOOO

You mentally captured yourself because NO Christian agrees with all the trash you said before your deconversion . You held yourself in captivity , Christianity did not

HCpaul:
There is only one thing that retain a rational mind in Christianity.
That simple thing is called "fear".

I just don't consider it sane to be detain in Christianity all because of fear. That is to tell you that every rational mind is an atheist just that some smart people among us are smart enough to boldly declare themselves as an atheist.

Assumptively, if there is really an intelligent designer for the universe, i would have adhere to the theory of Creators and not a single Creator.
Just be sane enough to know the meaning of power and restrict yourself from this abject misconception that a single personality keeps commanding the materialistic world into existence and reality. The theory of divinity is a more dangerous trash than religion herself.
That someone is powerful doesn't just mean that he will sit down and say "Let there be light" and the irrational mind who wasn't there coming into some silly conclusion by saying that "And there was light". That is purely fiction.

And tracing the existence of this Creator, you guys are yet to provide a convincing point of discuss. The last time I asked you guys, you intelligently deviated by instructing me to stop questioning the existence of the Creator. This typically imply that you people have no idea of how your Creator was created and became stagnant to the fallible theory that he wasn't created.
Since you can't explain the origin of your Creator, I as an homo sapient believe that I was likewise uncreated.
I think that it is high time I write on the God's Origin.
And beside, If anyone will prove to the world the existence of God and other mythological being, it should be the sane and genius scientists among us that are more exposed to the outside world (the universe) than us and not just some primitive men sitting their black ass in Africa and confidently telling the world the Creator that created the Cosmo.

In most cases, I don't have personal issues with religion, just that if there is a God, you don't have to be the medium to reveal his personality, characteristics and functionalities to the world through speech and writings. Let we the world patiently wait till he finally make his identity known to his creature. We are all human, so you don't have to be the one deciding for us if there is a Creator or not.
The way the entirety of religion was created clearly indicated that it is purely fiction, an emotional appeal and the works of primitive men like you and them.
The boldness to be publicly declaim as an atheist is what many people lacks. But that they've not yet declare themselves doesn't qualify them as a Christian either.
The weapon of religion is a deadly weapon that specifically target humans emotion and not the mind, knowing that if human are emotionally captured they cannot be mentally vibrant.

I didn't plan to become an atheist just that the day I started thinking in an erected position, I realized that the philosophy behind religion contradicted the law of reason. I thought that I was the only one thinking that way but decided to stumble on the study of the philosophy behind science and discovered that the theory of the supernatural is a decline concept in the framework of science and scientific theories. Science clearly discarded religious belief and superstitions to achieve success in their progressive explosion on knowledge, artificial creation and the universe.
Then I said Wow! I ain't the only one thinking this way, science does.

It just seems silly to see Africans waiting in suspense for the new earth when the west are already invading another planet successfully and colonizing the alien worlds.

I love Sanity!
I love Genius!
I love Science!
I love Reading!
I love Technology!
I love artificial creations!
I have a vast lust for knowledge!

You are still deluded. Many scientists are Christians and the so called primitive men began what you now know as philosophy and science. Yet they believed in a creator. You must be without brain to believe that the universe exploded from nowhere uncaused from nothing. Your brain must be dormant.

Proved science does not contradict the bible. That is why a scientist can be a true strong Christian. Wake up! Learned scientist who were once atheist have retraced their steps and come back to theism. If you think being rational is what makes an atheist, then go and burn the knowledge you got from Plato, Aristotle, Isaac Newton etc.

Many today are Christian and are still doing well in the scientific field. Wake up man.

JMAN05:


You are still deluded. Many scientists are Christians and the so called primitive men began what you now know as philosophy and science. Yet they believed in a creator. You must be without brain to believe that the universe exploded from nowhere uncaused from nothing. Your brain must be dormant.

Proved science does not contradict the bible. That is why a scientist can be a true strong Christian. Wake up! Learned scientist who were once atheist have retraced their steps and come back to theism. If you think being rational is what makes an atheist, then go and burn the knowledge you got from Plato, Aristotle, Isaac Newton etc.

Many today are Christian and are still doing well in the scientific field. Wake up man.

Thank you.
I dont know who keeps confusing these kids that atheism is equivalent to knowledge.
I dont just know.

KingEbukasBlog:


You keep focusing on religion . Atheism is simply against religious doctrines and its projection of a creator . It contravenes the fact a creator does exist because of religion . Now take religion away , atheism becomes vulnerable to attacks exposing it's weakness . God , a creator , does not exist simply because you think religious doctrines are absurd - FACT .

How many atheists can produce a tenable argument against the existence of creator in the absence religious flaws to clutch unto ? NONE .

That's why the memes , impious attacks are focused on religious doctrines not the rationale behind the existence of a creator .

And that is how you didn't answer the question

4kings:

That's my point 'I don't know', it could be because anything (I don't want to meddle in what I can't comprehend).

But still, the concept of a creator is a religious ideology

How do u know this?

I didn't mean it as a matter of fact. What I mean is that aliens are also "creations" and are incomparable with the "creator". There is no point using a "creation" in an analogy to prove a "creator" because by definition, the creation has flaws and is imperfect while the creator is not.

Exactly


Those are not a sources of the creator's existence, there are only as a result of humans meddling in what they can't comprehend.

Where else did the concept of a creator originate from aside religion?

Remember I made use of 'it' while talking to you, I don't know, but I can't make any assertions without observable facts.

Exactly

Just logged in briefly to say I am among those who thank God for and pray for the Christians who make time to contend for the faith on this thread. Any discerning child of God can instantly spot not only the root of the lies perpetuated by "atheists", but also the holes in their tales. I rarely ever sign in, but I read frequently. God bless you all. Please let's all keep the new believers/ those who are young in their faith in our prayers. May the Blood of Jesus cover us all.

lily12:
Just logged in briefly to say I am among those who thank God for and pray for the Christians who make time to contend for the faith on this thread. Any discerning child of God can instantly spot not only the root of the lies perpetuated by "atheists", but also the holes in their tales. I rarely ever sign in, but I read frequently. God bless you all. Please let's all keep the new believers/ those who are young in their faith in our prayers. May the Blood of Jesus cover us all.

The section itself is a strategic plot to propagate atheism. A well ochestrated plan to further a meaningless agenda.

felixomor:


Thank you.
I dont know who keeps confusing these kids that atheism is equivalent to knowledge.
I dont just know.

The delusion comes with the full package. Someone proclaims atheism and the next thing you hear is: "i love science". Some of them are still high school students or lazy wannabe's. hcpaul has probably never attended a science class but feels the need to validate his stand and make himself look reasonable.

hahn:


But still, the concept of a creator is a religious ideology

Nah I don't agree, the concept of a creator is only rational. Religion is another topic entirely.

hahn:

I didn't mean it as a matter of fact. What I mean is that aliens are also "creations" and are incomparable with the "creator". There is no point using a "creation" in an analogy to prove a "creator" because by definition, the creation has flaws and is imperfect while the creator is not.

We don't know if the creator is perfect or not, that's just a religious view. I once read a particular scientific material sometime ago, and the scientist talked about the universe and the way each planet and milky way are well structured, for the sake of brevity, he said that a slight change in any of the positions or regular movements of this planet would av caused havoc to the lives and existence of all. But he termed this phenomenon with the word 'LUCKY'. I personally think that word is not apt for that.

hahn:

Where else did the concept of a creator originate from aside religion?

The ability to think.
But people have only manipulated this, in various ways to meet various personal objectives.

hahn:


But still, the concept of a creator is a religious ideology

Wow . Just wow . Like I earlier said , take away religion and atheists are just ...

Inner peace . No more ban

KingEbukaNaija:


Wow . Just wow . Like I earlier said , take away religion and atheists are just ...

Inner peace . No more ban

4kings:


Nah I don't agree, the concept of a creator is only rational. Religion is another topic entirely.

Rational? Hmmmm. I would have loved to agree but I am still yet to meet someone who came to that conclusion without having been told about "God" by someone first

We don't know if the creator is perfect or not, that's just a religious view. I once read a particular scientific material sometime ago, and the scientist talked about the universe and the way each planet and milky way are well structured, for the sake of brevity, he said that a slight change in any of the positions or regular movements of this planet would av caused havoc to the lives and existence of all. But he termed this phenomenon with the word 'LUCKY'. I personally think that word is not apt for that.

What word do you think is apt then?

The ability to think.
But people have only manipulated this, in various ways to meet various personal objectives.

I am still yet to meet someone who came to that conclusion without having been told about "God" by someone first

hahn:


Rational? Hmmmm. I would have loved to agree but I am still yet to meet someone who came to that conclusion without having been told about "God" by someone first

You most likely won't see anyone like that, because of the time we are in today(information passed on).
But how do u think the idea of God came in the first place, its just natural instinct(the subconscious mind).

hahn:

What word do you think is apt then?

You know what I think

hahn:


Rational? Hmmmm. I would have loved to agree but I am still yet to meet someone who came to that conclusion without having been told about "God" by someone first



What word do you think is apt then?





I am still yet to meet someone who came to that conclusion without having been told about "God" by someone first

I am yet to meet someone who came to the conclusion that good morals was good without been taught on how to be morally good by someone.

Just think and stop f**ling yourself, thinking you are smart.

That someone taught me about good moral, does it mean that morality doesn't exist?

promise10:

I am yet to meet someone who came to the conclusion that good morals was good without been taught on how to be morally good by someone.

Just think and stop f**ling yourself, thinking you are smart.

That someone taught me about good moral, does it mean that morality doesn't exist?

Morality can be exercised just as you have exercise yours by asking me not to f**l myself in the most polite way

Your god on the other can't be exercised. It only exists in the mind of those who believe it and that is exactly why different people have different gods with different rules, likes, dislikes, perversions and even looks

You only know your god because you were told, by society or your parents, it is the right one

4kings:

You most likely won't see anyone like that, because of the time we are in today(information passed on).
But how do u think the idea of God came in the first place, its just natural instinct(the subconscious mind).

Assumption. The idea of God came from pure, crude assumption. Then someone saw that other people also believed it and discovered it was a good tool for mind control. Simply say "God told me" and people will believe anything.

My own assumption

You know what I think

I honestly don't

hahn:

I honestly don't

Fine. A Creator.

hahn:


Assumption. The idea of God came from pure, crude assumption. Then someone saw that other people also believed it and discovered it was a good tool for mind control. Simply say "God told me" and people will believe anything.

My own assumption

I give up.
So u truly believe that there CAN'T be a Creator?

4kings:

Fine. A Creator.


I give up.
So u truly believe that there CAN'T be a Creator?

I do not believe there can't be a creator but until that creator makes itself known I will continue to treat it as non existent and the product of man's ancient, crude, archaic and ignorant mind

hahn:


I do not believe there can't be a creator but until that creator makes itself known I will continue to treat it as non existent and the product of man's ancient, crude, archaic and ignorant mind

Meaning u are not sure.
Therefore u (presently) consider the (big)possibility.

winner01:
The delusion comes with the full package. Someone proclaims atheism and the next thing you hear is: "i love science". Some of them are still high school students or lazy wannabe's. hcpaul has probably never attended a science class but feels the need to validate his stand and make himself look reasonable.

I can't believe that you can be taking things too personal like this. Why the abuse? Is that how you are taught? Is that how Christians behave? Well, your kind are usually not the holy type.

When am trolling you will know cuz I usually troll to the core. I am now getting you folks but please let's try to handle things lightly here cuz in reality you don't know my worth and stance in knowledge.
I am innovative in my own field.

Am yet to graduate from high school or college? ? Well that is your own superstition though.

When you have nothing else to say then keep quiet instead of abusing others just to win an argument for your God. That is against the morality that I practice and the principles guiding my life. Your type of holiness is just wow!

But mind you, you can abuse me, curse me, pray against me, think evil of me but I will always show love to you guys by speaking senses into your brain that there is nothing like a God. It is your type that makea Africa the only set back that the world have. You aren't worshippers of Yahweh in some years back but now you've updated the god type and decided to choose Yahweh. Very soon now you will drop Yahweh and coin another god. Even in Israel (the origin of your religion and god) 75% of them are unvelievers. Just go to Israel and they will try showing you Jesus family house.

Scientists are only trying to be a good Communist by trying to give religion a sense of belonging since they know that it is a familiar doctrine for a weak heart.
We use religion and the god ideology to substitute our unknown, imperfections and inabilities.
Am not claiming 100% that there may not be a designer for the universe but am very certain that it can not be god. It will instead be a more comprehensive Cosmic that is more intelligent than our universe and not the numerous god(s) that all races on earth coined to fit in their superstitions (that is where the idea and theory of multiverse came in).
Carefully studying the philosophy behind existence, I traced and discovered that existence was originated from a non-living entity (which i won't prove until you tell me the origin of your superstitious Creator).

We all have the unknown but how can some people just provide answers for this unknown assumptively by creating gods.
If I tell you some tricks behind the Bible predictions you will not want to read that novel again. I will do that but not know.
Have been winning some arguments between theists offline now and many of them are now seeing life the way it should really be seen.

We are planning an intellectual platform for autodidacts and sane people that will consists of everything about knowledge and academic fields. It's one of the project that am working on as a formal scientist.

We will not stop until we have fully impregnated sanity into that vacuum called brain.
And maybe that is the Creator of earth in the picture below.

Kudos to sanity!

HCpaul:
There is only one thing that retain a rational mind in Christianity.
That simple thing is called "fear"

TOTAL LIE!!

And you're IGNORANT of this one truth:



GOD CAME FROM HEAVEN INTO MY HEART,

I didn't have to go and stand on the moon to find Him out.

And God does not stop you from going to the sun if you wish..

He'll give you clues to build the desired spaceship perhaps,

Hebrews 3
4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.

As if Christians don't excel in knowledge

Daniel 1
17 As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.
20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

God is the Author of our Inspiration

Job 32
8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
9 Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.
18 For I am full of matter, the spirit within me constraineth me.

#I'VE FELT GOD!!

HCpaul:


I can't believe that you can be taking things too personal like this. Why the abuse? Is that how you are taught? Is that how Christians behave? Well, your kind are usually not the holy type.

When am trolling you will know cuz I usually troll to the core. I am now getting you folks but please let's try to handle things lightly here cuz in reality you don't know my worth and stance in knowledge.
I am innovative in my own field.

Am yet to graduate from high school or college? ? Well that is your own superstition though.

When you have nothing else to say then keep quiet instead of abusing others just to win an argument for your God. That is against the morality that I practice and the principles guiding my life. Your type of holiness is just wow!

But mind you, you can abuse me, curse me, pray against me, think evil of me but I will always show love to you guys by speaking senses into your brain that there is nothing like a God. It is your type that makea Africa the only set back that the world have. You aren't worshippers of Yahweh in some years back but now you've updated the god type and decided to choose Yahweh. Very soon now you will drop Yahweh and coin another god. Even in Israel (the origin of your religion and god) 75% of them are unvelievers. Just go to Israel and they will try showing you Jesus family house.

Scientists are only trying to be a good Communist by trying to give religion a sense of belonging since they know that it is a familiar doctrine for a weak heart.
We use religion and the god ideology to substitute our unknown, imperfections and inabilities.
Am not claiming 100% that there may not be a designer for the universe but am very certain that it can not be god. It will instead be a more comprehensive Cosmic that is more intelligent than our universe and not the numerous god(s) that all races on earth coined to fit in their superstitions (that is where the idea and theory of multiverse came in).
Carefully studying the philosophy behind existence, I traced and discovered that existence was originated from a non-living entity (which i won't prove until you tell me the origin of your superstitious Creator).

We all have the unknown but how can some people just provide answers for this unknown assumptively by creating gods.
If I tell you some tricks behind the Bible predictions you will not want to read that novel again. I will do that but not know.
Have been winning some arguments between theists offline now and many of them are now seeing life the way it should really be seen.

We are planning an intellectual platform for autodidacts and sane people that will consists of everything about knowledge and academic fields. It's one of the project that am working on as a formal scientist.

We will not stop until we have fully impregnated sanity into that vacuum called brain.
And maybe that is the Creator of earth in the picture below.

Kudos to sanity!

Why sound so frustrated??
Chai!

All I can see in your unintelligent post up there is no more than "FRUSTRATION".

For me, I am sooooo sure, even with my last blood that God exist!!!

My belief in him is something beyond a reasonable doubt. And don't ask me any foolish questions about that, I can only answer reasonable ones.

promise10:


Why sound so frustrated??
Chai!

All I can see in your unintelligent post up there is no more than "FRUSTRATION".

For me, I am sooooo sure, even with my last blood that God exist!!!

My belief in him is something beyond a reasonable doubt. And don't ask me any foolish questions about that, I can only answer reasonable ones.

@bolded, I love it when you publicly make it clear that you have no idea of what this your god is, who he is, where he came from, how he created the universe, his characteristics, his attributes and most especially how he came into being. But yet you implicitly believe in him even though you will never see him in your life.

It pains me seeing theists confidently speaking lies as truth and quoting superstitions as certainties.

I believe in the existence of a higher being (at least aliens) but will that ever motivate me to say they created the universe? Definitely not.
We are all an object and it is the universe that simulated us into being and reality.
The primitive men sighted these aliens some years back seeing that they looks more superior, thought that they are the one administrating the universe.

It is only in the Bible that the angels of God (an immortal body and son's of Elohim) legally married the children of Adam. I have a picture that I will show you but not now.

If you're been born into a Muslim family am very sure by now that you will either be for ISIS or be reading your Quran and praying to Allah. Let's try and take things easy cuz religion is nothing but a man's invention.

Ever since you've been born, how many supernatural intervention can you state that happened? I don't even care if it helps mankind or not. We are the one struggling to make these religion survive decades but am very sure that it won't survive the next few centuries.

Imagine

promise10:


Why sound so frustrated??
Chai!

All I can see in your unintelligent post up there is no more than "FRUSTRATION".

For me, I am sooooo sure, even with my last blood that God exist!!!

My belief in him is something beyond a reasonable doubt. And don't ask me any foolish questions about that, I can only answer reasonable ones.

And who decides which questions are foolish and which ones are reasonable? It's YOU, I guess...

winner01:
The delusion comes with the full package. Someone proclaims atheism and the next thing you hear is: "i love science". Some of them are still high school students or lazy wannabe's. hcpaul has probably never attended a science class but feels the need to validate his stand and make himself look reasonable.

So.......? High school students... Ehnehn? You seem to be implying that High School students are intellectually inferior, and that's VERY stupid. There're high school students that are infinitely more intelligent, more enlightened, and well-informed than YOU can ever hope to be.

By the way, I just left high school, and will like to see in what way YOU are intellectually superior to ME. You can also try out Teempakguy if really you want to embarass yourself. It's STUPID to underestimate the intellect of high school students.

KingEtienneSky:
So.......? High school students... Ehnehn? You seem to be implying that High School students are intellectually inferior, and that's VERY stupid. There're high school students that are infinitely more intelligent, more enlightened, and well-informed than YOU can ever hope to be.

By the way, I just left high school, and will like to see in what way YOU are intellectually superior to ME. You can also try out Teempakguy if really you want to embarass yourself. It's STUPID to underestimate the intellect of high school students.

My brother just leave them.
I don't even know the highest level of education these people acquired. Infact, most high school students didn't know the value of nairaland not to talk of discussions based on religious view.

Are these people a prof? Because the way they position themselves and belittle others is really getting out of hand.

And beside, what has the level of education acquired has to do with knowledge and been articulate?

In the US, successful people believe in autodidactism and used the self learning approach to acquire knowledge beyond the scope of academic disciplines by crossing boundaries (things like interdisciplinarity, transdisciplinarity, crossdisciplinarity and multidisciplinarity). I am personally not an educationist based on the local way of acquiring knowledge in an intellectual abode like tertiary institutions but I love every place that knowledge can be acquired by the measure of individual personality and learning pattern.

Education simply means to educe and to draw out from within. A man of education may necessarily not be a man with generalized knowledge but a man with vast specialized knowledge that will be uniquely and systematically worked upon to solve world problems.
Infact, in some fields like computer science if you cannot learn on your own then you can never be a professional.
The field, adopting the fundamental concept of formal system critically rely on autodidactism.

Please let these two guys go back to Google and do more research cuz their arguments are so much retarded and baseless.

Well for your information, I am a homo fabo.

KingEtienneSky:
So.......? High school students... Ehnehn? You seem to be implying that High School students are intellectually inferior, and that's VERY stupid. There're high school students that are infinitely more intelligent, more enlightened, and well-informed than YOU can ever hope to be.

By the way, I just left high school, and will like to see in what way YOU are intellectually superior to ME. You can also try out Teempakguy if really you want to embarass yourself. It's STUPID to underestimate the intellect of high school students.

I also don't get the disdain they have for high school students. Having read wide about genius characters, I have come to the conclusion that age and formal level of education are just arbitrary constructs that say nothing of the mental capacity of human beings.

In fact, I wish I had become an atheist when I was in high school. I would have been able to use this epic line; you should be ashamed that a high school student can keep up with you in argument. There are only two possibilities; they're very smart and you should probably listen to them, or you're retarded and you should probably listen to them

Teempakguy:
I also don't get the disdain they have for high school students. Having read wide about genius characters, I have come to the conclusion that age and formal level of education are just arbitrary constructs that say nothing of the mental capacity of human beings.

In fact, I wish I had become an atheist when I was in high school. I would have been able to use this epic line; you should be ashamed that a high school student can keep up with you in argument. There are only two possibilities; they're very smart and you should probably listen to them, or you're retarded and you should probably listen to them

I love the write up bro, I just think that they will rethink cuz there are many people in this platform that are far more certified than them yet they didn't boast.

Teempakguy:
I also don't get the disdain they have for high school students. Having read wide about genius characters, I have come to the conclusion that age and formal level of education are just arbitrary constructs that say nothing of the mental capacity of human beings.

In fact, I wish I had become an atheist when I was in high school. I would have been able to use this epic line; you should be ashamed that a high school student can keep up with you in argument. There are only two possibilities; they're very smart and you should probably listen to them, or you're retarded and you should probably listen to them

Don't mind the fools! They're implying that since they're older and more "experienced", then they certainly know better than us. High school students are way too young an inexperienced to know anything about true reality. They're clueless little things, aren't they? Imagine that certain idiots tell themselves these nonsense and have managed to convince their gullible selves of its "truth". What incredible horseshit!!!!

Old people try to gain an advantage over young people by referring to their superior "experience." Well, let's consider the whole issue of experience. Old Abrahamists, no doubt, have had countless experiences and yet they are as stupid as they were the day they were born, and they still know nothing about true reality. So much for experience.

The "voice of experience" is frequently the voice of a fool, a charlatan and a bully. A smart 19-year old like myself can be much closer to enlightenment than some pompous, sanctimonious, self-inflated, crashing old bore telling everyone how much life experience he has (but thus proving it was all to no avail since anyone who had learned from life would know never to play the old man's card).

Experience is valuable only if it helps you to reason better, and, if it doesn't, it's worthless. It's not experience that seperates people but reason. A young, smart person is much closer to the truth than an old, experienced, bombastic iidiot. Refering to "experience" and age is simply a means for silly old men to big themselves up and pretend they know shit. Most of them know Bleep all... and and are exactly the people who made the world the shithole and mental asylum it is today. Experience and progress do not go together. Most geniuses do their masterwork before the age of 25.... before they become corrupted by "experience".

Many older people were fooled in their youth, and have never forgotten the shame of being duped. However, rather than develop greater reason so that they can see through bogus claims, they have simply become cynical, skeptical, close-minded and paranoid. If you placed the Truth right in front of them, they would never see it... because they would be terrified it was just another con to deceive them. Many older people voluntarily blind themselves to the Truth.

Age has the unfortunate tendency to turn people into old f00ls, prattling on about their redundant "experience" and age as if it counts for shit. Most of them are not wise at all. They're just old. The only elderly people you should listen to are those who are young at heart, who are still full of energy, with flexible minds, capable of learning new things. People like that actualy learn from their experiences, and keep learning, and can pass on genuine wisdom.

"You have to push as hard as the age that pushes against you" - Flannery O'oconnor

"Do not let me hear
Of the wisdom of old men, but rather of their folly,
Their fear of fear and frenzy, their fear of possession,
Of belonging to another, or others, or to God.
The only wisdom we can hope to acquire
Is the wisdom of humility; humility is endless" - T.S. Eliot

KingEtienneSky:
Don't mind the fools! They're implying that since they're older and more "experienced", then they certainly know better than us. High school students are way too young an inexperienced to know anything about true reality. They're clueless little things, aren't they? Imagine that certain idiots tell themselves these nonsense and have managed to convince their gullible selves of its "truth". What incredible horseshit!!!!

Old people try to gain an advantage over young people by referring to their superior "experience." Well, let's consider the whole issue of experience. Old Abrahamists, no doubt, have had countless experiences and yet they are as stupid as they were the day they were born, and they still know nothing about true reality. So much for experience.

The "voice of experience" is frequently the voice of a fool, a charlatan and a bully. A smart 19-year old like myself can be much closer to enlightenment than some pompous, sanctimonious, self-inflated, crashing old bore telling everyone how much life experience he has (but thus proving it was all to no avail since anyone who had learned from life would know never to play the old man's card).

Experience is valuable only if it helps you to reason better, and, if it doesn't, it's worthless. It's not experience that seperates people but reason. A young, smart person is much closer to the truth than an old, experienced, bombastic iidiot. Refering to "experience" and age is simply a means for silly old men to big themselves up and pretend they know shit. Most of them know Bleep all... and and are exactly the people who made the world the shithole and mental asylum it is today. Experience and progress do not go together. Most geniuses do their masterwork before the age of 25.... before they become corrupted by "experience".

Many older people were fooled in their youth, and have never forgotten the shame of being duped. However, rather than develop greater reason so that they can see through bogus claims, they have simply become cynical, skeptical, close-minded and paranoid. If you placed the Truth right in front of them, they would never see it... because they would be terrified it was just another con to deceive them. Many older people voluntarily blind themselves to the Truth.

Age has the unfortunate tendency to turn people into old f00ls, prattling on about their redundant "experience" and age as if it counts for shit. Most of them are not wise at all. They're just old. The only elderly people you should listen to are those who are young at heart, who are still full of energy, with flexible minds, capable of learning new things. People like that actualy learn from their experiences, and keep learning, and can pass on genuine wisdom.

"You have to push as hard as the age that pushes against you" - Flannery O'oconnor

"Do not let me hear
Of the wisdom of old men, but rather of their folly,
Their fear of fear and frenzy, their fear of possession,
Of belonging to another, or others, or to God.
The only wisdom we can hope to acquire
Is the wisdom of humility; humility is endless" - T.S. Eliot

No need for this jeremiad over bagatelles . I was 21 when I joined this forum two years ago . I was always excoriated and my opinions were always derided . Vilification and vituperation always came from the much older atheists and not from my coevals . It was easy to detect I was young cos some of my views were somewhat juvenile . With age comes experience and now I'm 23 , I'd say I'm reinvented and can counter arguments with so much ease . Instead of ululating over nothing , learn from the colloquies and obloquy and try to mould and indurate yourself into a redoubtable debater .

Sorry for the perissology and grandiloquence

Peace

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No need for this jeremiad over bagatelles . I was 21 when I joined this forum two years ago . I was always excoriated and my opinions were always derided . Vilification and vituperation always came from the much older atheists and not from my coevals . It was easy to detect I was young cos some of my views were somewhat juvenile . With age comes experience and now I'm 23 , I'd say I'm reinvented and can counter arguments with so much ease . Instead of ululating over nothing , learn from the colloquies and obloquy and try to mould and indurate yourself into a redoubtable debater .

Sorry for the perissology and grandiloquence

Peace

In a nutshell, "experience is indeed vital", huh? Maybe not.... But you do seem to have gotten me wrong, as I didn't rule out Experience completely. Far from it. My point being that the value placed on it is.... Errr, well, MISPLACED. "With age comes experience", you say? I'd rather have it as "With age comes wisdom, but SOMETIMES age comes alone", to quote Oscar Wilde. Ergo, WISDOM is the important thing here, not age (and the experience that comes with it). I said, "Experience is only valuable IF it helps you to reason better, and, if it doesn't, it's worthless".... So, what really MATTERS here? It's the "ability to reason well", "wisdom", and NOT experience.... Experience CAN be valuable if it helps you reason better, but it doesn't do that ALWAYS.... Got my point? So how can someone come here to big himself up as being intellectually superior to others because he's MORE experience, as though it counts for shit? Yes, with age comes wisdom..... SOMETIMES. And yes, with age comes stagnation... SOMETIMES. So, is age REALLY that important as people make it seem to be?

Here's the maxim that must be applied to experience: have you had a thousand different experiences, or the same experiences a thousand times? Dull-minded people just keep repeating the same old same old, and believing the same old same old. They never learn a thing. They're too dumb, too arrogant and too lazy to learn. Many old people are experienced in things that are now obsolete. A vast amount of people's experience becomes obsolete long before they're dead, rendering all such experiences worthless and irrelevant to the world. Experience might matter, but it's NOT more important than reason and intelligence. Rather, the reverse is true.

As per the emboldened, it exposes your pathological obsession with "winning" arguments. Is that what gives you the gall to think you're always right? (You probably will deny this.... But your attitude on this forum will make me not to believe you) That you cannever be wrong? No wonder you always express your satisfaction at "humiliating" the atheists, making it obvious that you believe you "won" nearly ALL the debates you've had with them. Now I know what fuels your dogmatism, closemindedness and unwilligness to admit you error no matter what (the source of it, even).... YOU DO NOT WANT TO "LOSE ANY ARGUMENT (as if that even matters), because, since you've made it a yardstick for measuring intelligence [as seen on the other threas where you told a guy you'll admit his superiority only if he "wins" an argument against you(in all fairness, you might have meant that as a joke.. But....)], you wouldn't want to lose to an atheist, as that would make him more intelligent than you, and, like seriously, who would want to be "inferior" to an atheist!!! Isn't that amusing? Abeg, abandon that mindset and the attitude to which it gives birth. It's just too childish.

Learned new words though..... I should say "THANK YOU" for that.