@huxley My answer is, do you believe in the bible and the teaching on paying tithe and offering? if you do not then do not bother replying.

bidemi12:

@huxley My answer is, do you believe in the bible and the teaching on paying tithe and offering? if you do not then do not bother replying.

How does it matter whether I believe. You are dumbskulledly being sucked dry by a corrupt institution and then you turn round and ask me if I believe in the institution? C'mon, man use your head, or have all your brain cells being wiped out by the bible too?

@huxley Obviously i have countered your arguement with logical, precise, and calm rebuttals. Also i am quite sure you did not read my initial post because if you did you would realise that i am against pastors taking advantage of their flocks. I believe that whatever monies i pay is to God through man. You seem hell bent on being aggressive and abusive. Or England no pay you? No be fight now.

bidemi12:

@huxley Obviously i have countered your arguement with logical, precise, and calm rebuttals. Also i am quite sure you did not read my initial post because if you did you would realise that i am against pastors taking advantage of their flocks. I believe that whatever monies i pay is to God through man. You seem hell bent on being aggressive and abusive. Or England no pay you? No be fight now.

Where have you countered me? What arguments have I made? I don't remember making any, other commentingg about the venality of the God people and the stupidity, dumbness, credulity, gullibility of the people who follow god.

I rest my case since you believe that whoever follows God is stupid. Why didn't you tell me before hand that you were an aethist? just de let me waste my saliva. As an aethist you have a right to your own beliefs as i do mine. so do not impose yours on mine. Shikena

OAM4J:

What is this doing in front page?

Gods work

manmustwac:

London is even worse. We must have at least [b]10 churches on the old kent [/b]road alone (they include Christ Embassy and RCCG) Nigerians are making all unused buildings into business centreschurches its so sad

wayyyyyyyyyy more than 10 if you want to take it all d way to elephant den u will get about 20 - 25 which are like big Nigerian churches

The rich young ruler came to Jesus and he responded by saying to him “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” (Matt 19:21)

Was he telling him to rid himself of riches while he actually had them himself ? Was he asking him to be poor? Was he teaching him seed faith?

People wake up! The Lord does not need your money, he’s more interested in our heart, our time, our life.

@poster na wa. what re u tryin to do?. ( E- jihad). u guys dont waste ur time. people like this go around tryin to make propaganda and mockery at xtianity. i see am plenty 4 my university dayz. jus ignore. stick with ur muslim religon, if somethin is missin in ur life try and find it , dont go around tryin to destroy the fabric that billions of xtians world wide re coverd in. i repeat find the missin link in ur life, it is very obvious,

Im just amazed at the poster ignorant, go and get a life of your own.

Do not judge them, we are not GOD.

@SAMNAIJA, you are right

samnaija:

@poster na wa. what re u tryin to do?. ( E- jihad). u guys dont waste your time. people like this go around tryin to make propaganda and mockery at xtianity. i see am plenty 4 my university dayz. jus ignore. stick with your muslim religon, if somethin is missin in your life try and find it , dont go around tryin to destroy the fabric that billions of xtians world wide re coverd in. i repeat find the missin link in your life, it is very obvious, 

You're either illiterate or plain dumb.

You so see the world in black and white that you totally assume everyone who criticizes the evils of christianity is muslim. . . . It's this narrow-minded mentality that holds you captive in that cesspool of ignorance called religion. Wake up my man!

And to those of you squirming "lets not judge" your lethargic attitude towards this fraud and crime against humanity is testament of your SELFISHNESS and HYPOCRISY!

Listen to yourselves. . . . " Oh, its commanded that I give tithes to prosper and increase, I have obeyed by paying to the pastor. I don't care what the pastor does with my money, I have fulfilled all righteousness and expect my bl£$$ing$. Whether the money goes to the the poor and needy, its none of my business all I want is my increase. Amen"

What you people forget is it's written that jesus came for the poor and downthrodden. . . . In the OT tithe was meant to care for the poor, widows and orphans. I guess you lot do not see this in your holy book as every nigerian pastor writes his own bible these days.

Imagine an atheist or group of atheists who do not believe in God but will ignorantly advicing a believer(s) on what to and what not to believe in God's Word. You're free to say your findings about any pastor(s). Any other advice against the written Scriptures is 100% satanic and misleading from any shameless unbeliever(s).

The story above could be true or not.But one thing is sure God knows all those that are his own,and let those who nameth/ call on the name of the Lord depart/avoid/run from iniquity.There are some churches that are so organised all the income is not controlled by just one pastor.Even nobody owns the church in that case u could be posted to any town or branch at any point in time.
I am not talking of one man church or one man General overseer where the wife and the kids are the board of director no.
Any instuitution may be corrupt but not as we have painted all these men of God.Not all pastors do this.
You can investigate and give us the names of fraudulent churches .But organised and old churches don't just eat/spends the congregation's money or better still God's money.
What else can I say than god is the greatest judge.

Happy sunday to all pastors!!

Today is payday and being the first sunday of the month it's time for TITHES. . .amen!! ¥€$! ¥£$! ¥€$$$!

hubreality:

Imagine an atheist or group of atheists who do not believe in God but will ignorantly advicing a believer(s) on what to and what not to believe in God's Word. You're free to say your findings about any pastor(s). Any other advice against the written Scriptures  is 100% satanic and misleading from any shameless unbeliever(s).

Hey, is today not sunday? Aren't you supposed to go make pastor chris happy with your life savings?

I'm on mobile now. Multiplied Tudors', good morning. I know you'll sit tight on duty to fight and reply every Tom and Harry on this thread with your atheism.

Oh, so you have a mobile phone? Why haven't you sown it into the life of pastor chris, eh?

I thought i was the only one noticing this recent trend of seed sowing. Their quote* you must give God something that is very valuable to you* One acclaimed Pastor even told my Dad that He needs to sow his car in other to receive the blessing that God is preparing for him(he did this after running round the bush like a 100 times)
@Poster am not siding any church but the truth is the the passion with which seed sowing is preached in Pentecostal Church is too great. People have been so brainwashed that they believe they are having a divine connection through giving to the RICH pastor!
I attended a program of one of the church and at the end of the whole thing, the Pastor came to give closing speech and imagine what he said. "I need to travel to Abuja with my wife, I can afford the flight ticket but i need somebody to be blessed through purchasing the flight ticket for me" Kia! i was so depressed and believe me people started struggling to pay for his flight ticket even those that never have entered a plane.
Christians! I believe there are better ways of sowing seed instead of going to the RICH Pastor.
Hospitals, Motherless Babies etc give the gifts to these people and God in heaven will really appreciate it more instead of giving it to a crook Pastor! Mi 2 Kobo

Tudor, I know how you enjoy attacks and insolence here. You're on usual online duty, I've seen your attacks all over the forums already. Believing is a choice. Salvation is personal. You're free! Free Air! Free talk!

Come to think of it *Do churches Pay Tax in this Country?* I don't think so though i stand to be corrected, It means they are amassing all those wealth and enjoying Tax Heaven while entrepreneurs like me pay through their nose, Damn!

hubreality:

Tudor, I know how you enjoy attacks and insolence here. You're on usual online duty, I've seen your attacks all over the forums already. Believing is a choice. Salvation is personal. You're free! Free Air! Free talk!

Hmmm. . . . Give me a link where I can watch the service so I can see all you mugus make pastor chris richer and happier. . . . Who knows, I might even see you on screen. . . .what are you wearing?

The dishonesty of these Christians is as sickening as the acts perpetuated by their greedy pastors, a man who cannot think is a slave unto himself and a disgrace to humanity.

homes have been divided because of this mouth robbers. God dey,

Tudór:

Oh, so you have a mobile phone? Why haven't you sown it into the life of pastor chris, eh?

i am pretty certain he is using free browsing lol. nobody holy pass!!!

U guys are right&wrong.In life there is NEMESIS i.e sowing&reaping.If u do good, u'll reap good while u do bad u reap bad.Same also applys to philantrophist who reap kindness.Robbers&murderers also reap death&sorrow.If u give Willingly&not by force to any1 not only pastors,u'll reap it back.BUT now adays some of our PASTORS are too overzealous for money that make them lie to their followers.which is very true just to get fame&wealth.Yet i think its still nice to give but not by force

They are also corrupt, I begin to wonder why efcc is not going after them, but Revrend king is not shameless,he is a devil pastor, Pastor chris na fashion model,,

Its so disturbing how people fall prey to these pastors. But if people cared more about righteousness rather than "miracles"
to improve their positions, finances et al, they would see through the ploys of these fake pastors. Just like scammers, 419ners
thrive because most of their victims are blinded by their lust for quick deals and rewards they have not earned.

Nothing shameful about seeking the easiest way out but duping people in the name of God really is shameful.

@Tudor   Granted there are lots of fake pastors out there who take advantage of us. These pastors are aethist like you who see the business side to christianity. That will not stop me from paying my tithe and making my offerings to the almighty. What those pastors do with it is none of my business so long as i have done my part. I can only complain and maybe those your brothers will see the light and actually change. And do you know why i do this? because i believe in God and the bible. Why do you continue to vote knowing that PDP will rig the election? You know that the rule is to vote and the exception is pdp's rigging. It is not normal. shikena