plaetton:

That reality is better than delusions.

KingEbukasBlog:


lmao . Atheists read random books and regurgitate on Nairaland just to appear smart . We Christians are way superior in logic and reasoning . They are no match apparently . Sometimes it feels like you are discussing with a toddler .

raphieMontella:

please can you tell us whats logical in a talking snake?

kingcity:
if you should take your time and reflect what atheist talk or argue about...you will see a lot of sense.....am beginning to think religion is a scam but am not concluding yet

winner01:
No. So what do you want me to do?
The Bible and its events reflect the supernatural.

raphieMontella:

thank you!
kingebukasblog claimed higher logical abilities stems from theism..

DeepSight:


I am quite surprised by this take considering your revert on the thread I last invited you to.

DeepSight:


I am quite surprised by this take considering your revert on the thread I last invited you to.

winner01:
The issues of your life is determined by the contents of your heart. There is a reason God warns us to guard it - with all diligence.

KingEbukasBlog:

lmao . Atheists read random books and regurgitate on Nairaland just to appear smart . We Christians are way superior in logic and reasoning . They are no match apparently . Sometimes it feels like you are discussing with a toddler .

KingEbukasBlog:


Where was the claim ?

plaetton:


Why would you be surprised? I am not taking any new position that I have not taken before.

The last thread you are referring to was a discussion about a hypothetical situation where both the observable phenomena and the observer are simulations of a cosmic Super-Computer.

EyeHateGod:
raphieMontella u should have known Kingebukablogs by Now Na The nigga is Ignorant i wonder if it is short memory span he has he tends to forget things easily

DeepSight:


And how does your definition of "reality" adjust into, or take into consideration the metaphysical aspects of existence which I am fairly certain you do not dispute, given your take in the referred thread as well as your take on the "quantum" nature of spirituality - which you have oft propounded. Permit my use of the term.

More precisely - does your definition thus give us to say that that which is not observable, quantifiable - and mathematically so - and also predictably so - is therefore not real?

DeepSight:



Because it seems to me that there rests a salient contradiction in saying so, whilst one propounds a quantum nature of reality - given that quantum physics deals very much in the random unpredictable and in much discourse even appears to defy mathematics.

MrRichmond:
God can be thought to exist just by observing the law of cause and effect, everything must have an origin, but if God is the origin of all things then what is the origin of God.
This is where the problem lies, we cannot call it God if it had an origin, whatever sparked the Big Bang must be causeless, must have transcended all humanity's flaws, emotions and prejudice, this would make God devoid of personality as well and imo consequently beyond our reach of understanding.
If there is God indeed, we as a race are way too primitive to grasps what it should be like, the only thing we can infer is that God simply has a will to create evident by physical world. The how's and why's is beyond the reach of man, a primitive species who still struggles to conquer himself, not to talk of the creator.

plaetton:


Yes.
Whatever is not observable, quantifiable and mathematically predictable is logically safe to say that it is not real.

Real things have predictable qualities.

plaetton:


And yes again.
There is a Quantum nature of reality. That Quantum phenomena appear random and unpredictable is simply because we are yet discern the complexity of the patterns of Quantum phenomena.

Quantum phenomena do have mathematical corollaries that can be modelled, and in the future, put into practical applications.

In fact, Debrogile's Equations show the mathematical corollaries of Quantum particles/waves.

winner01:
The issues of your life is determined by the contents of your heart. There is a reason God warns us to guard it - with all diligence.

shachris02:


trust me, atheists are the slowest people I've ever met. they are just walking books. no common sense.

plaetton:

Uyi , so you have dumped Jesus again?
Na wa for you o.

shachris02:


it's more or less a movement as many young people are now seeing atheism as the new cool...even those that have no clue what's about.

Uyi168:
There is no such thing as atheistic movement..what u re witnessing now is what i called 'evolution of d mind'..
very soon it will catch up with u..Moreso,we also have muslims turned atheist..

Ranchhoddas:
You sir are advocating close-mindedness. If everyone were to guard their hearts the way you propose, do you think anyone would get converted from their first position of belief, or disbelief?

kingcity:
there is too many reason to doubt God existence....too many reason

raphieMontella:

thank you!
kingebukasblog claimed higher logical abilities stems from theism..

MrRichmond:
God can be thought to exist just by observing the law of cause and effect, everything must have an origin, but if God is the origin of all things then what is the origin of God.
This is where the problem lies, we cannot call it God if it had an origin, whatever sparked the Big Bang must be causeless, must have transcended all humanity's flaws, emotions and prejudice, this would make God devoid of personality as well and imo consequently beyond our reach of understanding.
If there is God indeed, we as a race are way too primitive to grasps what it should be like, the only thing we can infer is that God simply has a will to create evident by physical world. The how's and why's is beyond the reach of man, a primitive species who still struggles to conquer himself, not to talk of the creator.

winner01:
There is a difference between close mindedness and guarding your heart.
Close mindedness is a total restriction of new or foreign materials, Guarding your heart is a conscious decision on what stays in your heart.
No one can run from the internet, we can only decide what comes in to stay or leave.
But why would the Bible say that in the first place, how did it know the issues of life flows out right from the heart?

DeepSight:


By this measure, it would be safe to say that thoughts are not real.
Would that not be absurd, once it is considered that our entire existence is governed by thought?

How "observable, quantifiable and mathematically predictable" are thoughts?
And if so, by what means Sire?

shachris02:
These people aren't really atheist. I think they are just lazy Christians and stingy Christians. they pick and drop what to believe in. They really do not have any clue as to what atheism is about.
For over a week now, I've been challenging them on one of my thread to explain to me how mediums operate, if everything in this world can be eplanined by science. Mediums are everywhere. These atheists wouldn't claim not to not know they exist.

shachris02:

watch Hollywood Medium on E.
Examples of them abound everywhere. can take you to one if you want.