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Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by brojoshua: 5:01pm On Oct 27, 2016
Or rather places of entertainment and merchandising, or houses of thieves and merchandise as hypocrites and mockers have made it
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by ItsMeAboki(m): 6:20pm On Oct 27, 2016
carmag:


christianity is a peaceful religion that hurts no one
Then you must be quite quite ignorant of its history and obviously had not read the Bible thoroughly enough, especially the old testament.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by Nobody: 7:32pm On Oct 27, 2016
ItsMeAboki:

Then you must be quite quite ignorant of its history and obviously had not read the Bible thoroughly enough, especially the old testament.

that's why it's called old testament, judge the life of a Christian living next to you rather than events that took place some 900 yrs ago and that is why Jesus Christ was sent to the world to show us the right path

christianity is a peaceful religion
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by ItsMeAboki(m): 10:03pm On Oct 27, 2016
carmag:


that's why it's called old testament, judge the life of a Christian living next to you rather than events that took place some 900 yrs ago and that is why Jesus Christ was sent to the world to show us the right path

christianity is a peaceful religion

Are you rejecting the Old testament as not part of Christian teaching?
If so, then you are a unbeliever; because Jesus himself supported the Old Testament's death-penalty provisions when he said he came not to abolish the Mosaic Law but to complete it.[ Matthew 5:17]
He further warned that anyone who sets aside even the least of the Law's demands, and teaches others to do so, will be lowest in the kingdom of heaven.[Matthew 5:18-19]

Stop being lazy, go read and get educated - don't just believe any hype.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by Nobody: 11:22pm On Oct 27, 2016
ItsMeAboki:


Are you rejecting the Old testament as not part of Christian teaching?
If so, then you are a unbeliever; because Jesus himself supported the Old Testament's death-penalty provisions when he said he came not to abolish the Mosaic Law but to complete it.[ Matthew 5:17]
He further warned that anyone who sets aside even the least of the Law's demands, and teaches others to do so, will be lowest in the kingdom of heaven.[Matthew 5:18-19]

Stop being lazy, go read and get educated - don't just believe any hype.


""He further warned that anyone who sets aside even the least of the Law's demands, and teaches others to do so, will be lowest in the kingdom of heaven.[Matthew 5:18-19]""


from your moniker it's believed you are a muslim and the quote above which is what you read from the bible had said it all against the teachings of Qur'an that will rather ask the followers to subdue and kill anyone who does not follow the teachings of Islam

that is what makes the different btw the two religion,..one teaches love and forgiveness while the other teaches violence and intolerance
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by ItsMeAboki(m): 7:53am On Oct 28, 2016
carmag:



""He further warned that anyone who sets aside even the least of the Law's demands, and teaches others to do so, will be lowest in the kingdom of heaven.[Matthew 5:18-19]""


from your moniker it's believed you are a muslim and the quote above which is what you read from the bible had said it all against the teachings of Qur'an that will rather ask the followers to subdue and kill anyone who does not follow the teachings of Islam

that is what makes the different btw the two religion,..one teaches love and forgiveness while the other teaches violence and intolerance

Stop playing ostrich and answer the question: are you rejecting the teachings of the Old Testament as not part of Christianity even though Jesus himself clearly endorsed it?
How can anyone read the Bible (old and new testament) and claim Christianity is peaceful?

On the contrary, you lied, the Qur'an does not preach compulsion of the religion; however, on the other hand Jesu did, he actually sanctioned the killing of unbelievers: In luke 19:27 jesus says-bring those who do not believe me here and slay them b4 me!

Broaden your mind, read and get educated in order to free yourself from ignorance and bigotry - don't believe the hype.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by abdoolorunwa(m): 10:00am On Oct 28, 2016
Gerrard59:
Unfortunately, most Nigerians seem to forget that the tropical weather of ours worsen issues. Go to Brazil, Singapore, Japan and see how their ladies dress and come back.

Imagine the kind of law Ufot Ekaette's wife wanted? shocked
THIS IS AFRICA AND INDECENT DRESSING IS NOT OUR CULTURE.
DO NOT COMPARE US AND THEM. KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THE DEFINITION OF SORDOM AND GOMORA REFLECTS IN THEM AND NOT ON AFRICANS.
SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR GOD, COME TO AFRICA (HUSTLING, STARVATION, E.T.C), BUT IF U WANT TO DINE WITH THE DEVILS GO TO AMERICA (SEX, ALCOHOLISM, GAYISM, LESBIANISM E.T.C) DO YOU STILL NEED A PROPHET TO TELL U DIS?
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by Hatrik(m): 12:27pm On Oct 28, 2016
ItsMeAboki:


Stop playing ostrich and answer the question: are you rejecting the teachings of the Old Testament as not part of Christianity even though Jesus himself clearly endorsed it?
How can anyone read the Bible (old and new testament) and claim Christianity is peaceful?

On the contrary, you lied, the Qur'an does not preach compulsion of the religion; however, on the other hand Jesu did, he actually sanctioned the killing of unbelievers: In luke 19:27 jesus says-bring those who do not believe me here and slay them b4 me!

Broaden your mind, read and get educated in order to free yourself from ignorance and bigotry - don't believe the hype.
You've gotten it all wrong my friend. when you read from the beginning of that chapter Jesus was telling his disciples a parable mind you parable are stories with hidden meaning, you can't understand it by reading it literarily. As for the text and parable of the kingdom demonstrate how God will judge you and me. the pounds or coins are the talents God have bestowed on us he will judge us on how we handle it, for his glorify him or not. Maybe you need to read more about the life of Jesus in the synoptics one thing is for sure he is not violent in character or in deeds. your argument on this ground my friend will never hold water.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by ItsMeAboki(m): 5:38am On Oct 29, 2016
Hatrik:

You've gotten it all wrong my friend. when you read from the beginning of that chapter Jesus was telling his disciples a parable mind you parable are stories with hidden meaning, you can't understand it by reading it literarily. As for the text and parable of the kingdom demonstrate how God will judge you and me. the pounds or coins are the talents God have bestowed on us he will judge us on how we handle it, for his glorify him or not. Maybe you need to read more about the life of Jesus in the synoptics one thing is for sure he is not violent in character or in deeds. your argument on this ground my friend will never hold water.

Are you saying that Jesus did not actually meant those words and that Luke 19:27 was instead quoting him out of context - that it was a parable?

Ok, if so, then pls explain accurately what you think he meant and how the literate version in the Bible was misleadingly out of context.
Furthermore, are you also arguing that Jesus did not endorse the Mosaic laws as expressed in: Matthew 5:17, when he said 'he came not to abolish the Mosaic Law but to complete it'; and Matthew 5:18-19, where he further warned, "warned that anyone who sets aside even the least of the Law's demands, and teaches others to do so, will be lowest in the kingdom of heaven" - are you by any chance say that these too were parables? - if so, then you might as well say, that the whole Bible was written in parables.

From the above, it should be abundantly clear that the Old Testament was fully endorsed by Jesus, therefore any Christian who denies it, is equally denying part of the Christian faith and furthermore such person has no right to malign the Qur'an as violent because is there no book more violent than the Old Testament.
More-so, even the New Testament (which the hypocrites use to gloat over and insult the Qur'an) has been independently researched and still found to be more violent than the Qur'an.
http://www.businessinsider.com/someone-compared-the-quran-and-the-bible-to-see-which-was-more-violent-2016-2

The moral of the story here is: 'those who live in a glass house shouldn't throw stones' -Christian bigots be warned, because there is more of the same to be thrown back at you, should you continue to insult the religion of Islam.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by Hatrik(m): 8:58am On Oct 29, 2016
ItsMeAboki:


Are you saying that Jesus did not actually meant those words and that Luke 19:27 was instead quoting him out of context - that it was a parable?

Ok, if so, then pls explain accurately what you think he meant and how the literate version in the Bible was misleadingly out of context.
Furthermore, are you also arguing that Jesus did not endorse the Mosaic laws as expressed in: Matthew 5:17, when he said 'he came not to abolish the Mosaic Law but to complete it'; and Matthew 5:18-19, where he further warned, "warned that anyone who sets aside even the least of the Law's demands, and teaches others to do so, will be lowest in the kingdom of heaven" - are you by any chance say that these too were parables? - if so, then you might as well say, that the whole Bible was written in parables.

From the above, it should be abundantly clear that the Old Testament was fully endorsed by Jesus, therefore any Christian who denies it, is equally denying part of the Christian faith and furthermore such person has no right to malign the Qur'an as violent because is there no book more violent than the Old Testament.
More-so, even the New Testament (which the hypocrites use to gloat over and insult the Qur'an) has been independently researched and still found to be more violent than the Qur'an.
http://www.businessinsider.com/someone-compared-the-quran-and-the-bible-to-see-which-was-more-violent-2016-2

The moral of the story here is: 'those who live in a glass house shouldn't throw stones' -Christian bigots be warned, because there is more of the same to be thrown back at you, should you continue to insult the religion of Islam.

Luke 19:11 "he added and spake a parable" I guess you missed that or maybe you don't know what parable means.


For Matthew 5:17-19 maybe you purposely stop at those verse there cause you just needed it not because you really want to comprehend it full teaching. read verse 20-48 you rightly said Jesus didn't come to destroy the law of Moses but he came to correct it and fulfill it. when you read it all through you will understand also read Deuteronomy 5 and Exodus 20.

p.s note that there is a difference between the master and the follower so don't take some Christian character to be the teaching of Jesus.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by ItsMeAboki(m): 12:46am On Oct 30, 2016
Hatrik:
Luke 19:11 "he added and spake a parable" I guess you missed that or maybe you don't know what parable means.


For Matthew 5:17-19 maybe you purposely stop at those verse there cause you just needed it not because you really want to comprehend it full teaching. read verse 20-48 you rightly said Jesus didn't come to destroy the law of Moses but he came to correct it and fulfill it. when you read it all through you will understand also read Deuteronomy 5 and Exodus 20.

p.s note that there is a difference between the master and the follower so don't take some Christian character to be the teaching of Jesus.

My friend its either you do not know your Bible very well or you are arguing like a headless chicken, thinking that you could confuse me by quoting quite irrelevant verses that have no connection with the central issue i.e. Jesus's endorsement of the Old testament (Mosaic laws) as in Mathew 17 - 19, in order to throw me off along the line.
For example: what has Luke 19:11, the parable of the ten minas or even Deuteronomy 5 and Exodus 20 (which talk of the same thing i.e. the 10 commandments) got do with the central issue?
Yes, indeed Jesus spoke in parables especially in Luke but not throughout because there are several instances where he spoke quite literally.
What you need now in order to buttress your argument is to prove to that Jesus was not speaking directly but actually in parables as per above quote in Matthew.

No, I didn't omit anything in the above; but did notice how you dishonestly inserted the word 'correct' in your own interpretation of the verse in Matthew.

I do concede that there are several versions of the Bible in which certain things have been added or deleted in order to suit its authors; so I suppose you may also be guilty of doing the same or may be quoting from one of the altered versions as against the The King James version from where I referenced the said verses as follows:

Matthew 5:17-19King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Note: here Jesus did not say he came to additionally CORRECT the laws, inferring as if Moses made some mistakes which Jesus came to correct; but simply to fulfil them - that addition seems to be entirely yours or at least from another version of the same Bible.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by Hatrik(m): 12:58pm On Oct 30, 2016
ItsMeAboki:


My friend its either you do not know your Bible very well or you are arguing like a headless chicken, thinking that you could confuse me by quoting quite irrelevant verses that have no connection with the central issue i.e. Jesus's endorsement of the Old testament (Mosaic laws) as in Mathew 17 - 19, in order to throw me off along the line.
For example: what has Luke 19:11, the parable of the ten minas or even Deuteronomy 5 and Exodus 20 (which talk of the same thing i.e. the 10 commandments) got do with the central issue?
Yes, indeed Jesus spoke in parables especially in Luke but not throughout because there are several instances where he spoke quite literally.
What you need now in order to buttress your argument is to prove to that Jesus was not speaking directly but actually in parables as per above quote in Matthew.

No, I didn't omit anything in the above; but did notice how you dishonestly inserted the word 'correct' in your own interpretation of the verse in Matthew.

I do concede that there are several versions of the Bible in which certain things have been added or deleted in order to suit its authors; so I suppose you may also be guilty of doing the same or may be quoting from one of the altered versions as against the The King James version from where I referenced the said verses as follows:

Matthew 5:17-19King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Note: here Jesus did not say he came to additionally CORRECT the laws, inferring as if Moses made some mistakes which Jesus came to correct; but simply to fulfil them - that addition seems to be entirely yours or at least from another version of the same Bible.
OMG seriously is it you can't read or you having problem of understanding which is? I simply gave you references from the said mosaic law (Deuteronomy n exodus) which connect with Jesus teach on the sermon on the mount. well I don't know if you blind or you just choose to ignore the remaining verses of Matthew 5 you cant generalize the whole topic Jesus was teaching on 1 or 2 single verse. for your info good bible student don't read the bible on bases of one verse we read the while thing makes us understand better........"ye have heard that it was said by them of old time" that's time of moses n the prophets "but I say unto you" that's Jesus modifying modifying or you can say correcting the teaching but not condemning it in total.
Read Matthew 19:8-9



P.S please don't act as if you know everything about the bible OK cause you don't. Same here cause I know little about your Quran doesn't mean I know more than the Muslims........but if you want to learn act like it.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by Nobody: 8:07pm On Oct 31, 2016
please what is God's mood about this.. is the Prophet Yahushua not come for ardent sinners ?
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by Auki: 9:01pm On Oct 31, 2016
I am worried.
Re: Abuja Residents Decry Indecent Dressing In Places Of Worship by Auki: 9:02pm On Oct 31, 2016
A religion teaching that has no visible impact on its members should be a source of concern to those that reflect.

A religion in which deep knowledge of its holy book will most likely lead to atheism should be a source of concerns for anybody that have sense.

A religion in which its fundamental tenets(1+1+1=1) is hostile to logic and rationality should be a source of concerns to those that think.

A religion that put almost all emphasis on worldly enjoyment at the price of the hereafter is a source of concern to those that keenly observe.

May God save mankind against Satan the outcast.

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