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Poll: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived?

Jesus Christ: 51% (29 votes)
Mohammad: 39% (22 votes)
Paul: 0% (0 votes)
Isaac Newton: 3% (2 votes)
Leonard da Vinci: 5% (3 votes)
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Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by kolaoloye(m): 10:32am On Jan 12, 2010
My dear friend,kindly give me the link.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by GoodMuyis(m): 2:02pm On Jan 12, 2010
WOW how i missed this topic all this days i don;t read it i would have solve this thread
NOW SOLUTION

Jesus Christ is NOT man He is God(the son[whether u like it or not]),

And me goodmuyis am a man so am the greatest of all men, even Christ say something about me:

(Matt 11:11)
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he[John the Baptist].

So now who is the greatest

I AM

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Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by TrueSeeker(m): 5:18pm On Jan 12, 2010
Abu Zola:

Did you ask yourself that why didn't the Prophet die instantly like Bishr, oh oo, now you know

You can not fool anyone here. Mohammad try to vomit the food immediately, that might be one of the reason why he suffered for three years before he died. Another reason is that he sort help of his friends to get cure but there are to no avail.

Abu Zola:

Mr man Muhammad perform thousand miracle, the poison did not do him any harm till he was abt to die, check my thread, Prophet Muhammad and his death

If Mohammad perform thousand miracle as you falsely claimed, why cant he help out his friend Bashir that ate the poison together with him? Poor Bashir was coping a hypocrite friend who try to vomit the poison he ate .

Jesus on other hand cure people that close to him of their ailment, he even raise a dear friend by name Lazarus from death. Imagine what Jesus did on the night he was to arrest, he even heal one of his enemy whose ear was cut off!
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by olabowale(m): 7:13pm On Jan 12, 2010
@Theseeker: « #98 on: Today at 05:18:08 PM »
[Quote ]You can not fool anyone here. Mohammad try to vomit the food immediately,
[/quote]Try does not mean successful. Afterall the Jewish woman produced the most potent of all poisons; she wanted to get read of him, immediately. Muhammad (AS) being a human being is susceptible to any and all conditions that apply to humans, except what Allah wishes to use to prove his Propphethood, or just prevent him from.

that might be one of the reason why he suffered for three years before he died.
If this was the reason that Muhammad (AS) according to you survived with all of that poison for that long, then from a secular non religious point of view, he was a wise man. If other prophets whose lives where snuffed off had taking precaustions or when they were cornered tried to apply safety measures, it may jsut be a proof of their smart. Jesus of the Bible begged, cried, prayed, praised, wept, yet he was captured and could not escape "the cross". This is according to your Bible, in addition that he died. I am asking you, why was your god not as smart as Muhammad, a mere human prophet? Why couldnt your god be able to help the thief on the right to escape death, while the left thief was not forgiven because he did not recognize your god, but the jewish woman recognized Muhammad as a prophet, just that she was bitter enough that she felt like her poison will confirm it or disproof her position that Muhammad was a prophet!

Another reason is that he sort help of his friends to get cure but there are to no avail.
Whose help did Jesus seek; his partner; the other gods, one of them he cried out to "my God, my God, me", where is the statement of my father or my co-god?

[Quote]If Mohammad perform thousand miracle as you falsely claimed, why cant he help out his friend Bashir that ate the poison together with him? Poor Bashir was coping a hypocrite friend who try to vomit the poison he ate .
Did Bashir vomit? Did Muhammad vomit? Everyone has a means of death; Bashir's (RA) was right there. Muhammad's (AS) was 3 years later. Did any prophet in the earlier times have his life extended when it was certain to all that he will die? You said Jesus died before the day was over; Muhammad died 3 years after! if these two events were signs of prophethood, Muhammad passed, especially when his co-victims of the poisoned died, immediately! While you accepted Jesus who expired on the cross as god, you couldnt accept Muhammad with a bigger miraculous sign as prophet! It seems to me that even in bright sunny day in the summer, you are still blind!

Jesus on other hand cure people that close to him of their ailment, he even raise a dear friend by name Lazarus from death.
Yet Jesus could not cure himself, or prevented his own death; truly physician cured thy self.

Imagine what Jesus did on the night he was to arrest, he even heal one of his enemy whose ear was cut off!
Rubbish! What did Jesus do for himself? Nothing. Yet he cried, complained even to the heavens, to no avail. The result, according to you is that he died; "my God (not my Father, and not my partner), my God (yet again), why, forsaken me!"? Thats a god?
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by TrueSeeker(m): 10:25pm On Jan 12, 2010
@olabowale
Did Mohammad perform thousand miracles as claimed by Abuzola?

If we are to go by test of prophethood as presented by the Jewish woman then Mohammad failed the test of prophet because he ate the posion, his friend equally ate from it and both of them consequently died from the effect of the poison.

So mohammad was a fake prophet from the jewish woman point of view, because she reasoned: how can a true prophet of God eat poison? how can a true prophet not being able to help his friend? Mr. Olabowale do you think Mohammad pass the test of prophet as presented by this woman?
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by theseeker2: 11:49pm On Jan 12, 2010
of course muhammed performed many miracles. One of which was splitting the moon. You should not be asking for proof of this if you belive that moses split the red sea and jesus walked on water.
But come to think of it, is miracles a bona fide for prophethood? Remember jesus said 'of those born of man none is greater than john the babptist'. I want you to tell me a single miracle that john the baptist performed.

If muhammed had not ate of the poison it would be less of a miracle than eating it and surviving for 3 years. Wheras your god died only after a fews hour when hung by his creations. It even gets more disturbing when we realize that the two thieves hung along side survived longer that their god jesus. Such that the centurions were forced to break their legs so they would not run from their graves.

Muhammed survived for 3 years on a poison that killed his companion instantaneously wheras common theives has more stamina than you god
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by olabowale(m): 12:13am On Jan 13, 2010
@Theseeker: « #100 on: Today at 10:25:51 PM »  
@olabowale
Did Mohammad perform thousand miracles as claimed by Abuzola?
Yes.

If we are to go by test of prophethood as presented by the Jewish woman then Mohammad failed the test of prophet because he ate the posion,
He did not die immediately like those who ate it with him. Thats a miracle.

his friend equally ate from it and both of them consequently died from the effect of the poison.
Consequently, meaning a span of 3 years? Wished Biblical Jesus, according to you could have consequently not died immediately like the thieves nailed beside him. That could have been a miracle. Further, he said, according to you he will wake up after 3 days in the belly of the earth! Do you take a dugout, which is what a cave is as grave? He did not even stayed in the cave for 3 days as he said he will stayed in the belly of the earth! I say, dugout, like the one in a baseball park does not qualify as grave. friday evening to sunday morning is not 3 days according to jewish people's calender of evening to even for a day; then you will have up to Monday evening when it will be 3 days.

So mohammad was a fake prophet from the jewish woman point of view, because she reasoned: how can a true prophet of God eat poison?
The conservative orthodox Jewish rabbi, even now on "Jewish Rabbi confirms Islam" in this section proofs that the religion of Muhammad (AS) is the religion of Adam (AS), the people who succeeded the flood along with their leader Noah (AS). We have been saying that all these while, as a religion preceeding Judaism, Christianity. A rose by any name is still a rose. Call Islam any name, before you say it is Islam of Muhammad (AS), it is the same Islam that was practised and preached by all the noble men of the olden days; Ibrahim, Musa, Daud, Sulayman, etc and Isa bin Maryam (AS)! THis is enough to proof that your wrong understanding of what the Jewess of madina did! If Muhammad was not a prophet, Allah would have not allowed him to survive, while others (RA) who were not prophet did right there!

how can a true prophet not being able to help his friend?
How many friends of Jesus, your human god he couldnt help? Judas the betrayer, he could not help him to do evil. Peter, he could not help from the disease of doubt. The other one, he could not help from the disease of denial. The thief who believed in him, he could not help from dying. The thief who did not believe in him, he could not steady his heart, increased him in faith, he could not. I guess the statement By my own power, I could not do anything, said Jesus really came alive, here.

Mr. Olabowale do you think Mohammad pass the test of prophet as presented by this woman?
Yes! The woman's intended result did not happen; Muhammad lived for 3 years after the fact. He died of complications not only of poison from the food, but included old age (63 years in not 60! and much much older, almost twice 33 years), and many others.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by AbuZola3(m): 12:59pm On Jan 13, 2010
@true seeker and kola, am going to post you the link later in the day
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by TrueSeeker(m): 5:20pm On Jan 13, 2010
@olabowale
Don't you know that is better to died instantly like Bashir than suffer in agony of food poison like mohammad for three years? His sickness was loathsome, he was very angry with himself, his friends and relatives, he made a lot of curse during those last days of his. He can not even trust anyone again, he force his wife to taste the concoction that was made for him even though she was fasting. And yet, Mr olabowale you call those miserable three years miracle, in life of your prophet.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by TrueSeeker(m): 4:42pm On Jan 14, 2010
@olabowale
Yes! The woman's intended result did not happen;

What do you mean? The woman intent is to kill Mohammad and she accomplished that. No wonder Mohammad death cause a lot of confusion and division among his followers.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by AbuZola3(m): 5:14pm On Jan 14, 2010
Still searching for the thread
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by Iyara(m): 5:28pm On Jan 14, 2010
Leonardo da Vinci; the ultimate renaissance man. Described as being physically close to perfection as is humanly possible, with a brain to match. Master of the arts and sciences, he was truly a Jack of all trades and master of most.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by TrueSeeker(m): 11:15pm On Jan 18, 2010
True, Leonardo da Vinci was Great but not the Greatest.

Jesus Christ continue to influence the life of his followers, even when He was not with them physically.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by AbuZola3(m): 11:20pm On Jan 18, 2010
But jesus died without even leaving a scripture or guideline, the jews killed him, isn't this funny
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by kolaoloye(m): 10:28am On Jan 19, 2010
Abu Zola:

But jesus died without even leaving a scripture or guideline, the jews killed him, isn't this funny
You are wrong. Check this link for detailed information.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-296219.192.html
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by Easypizzy(f): 11:47am On Jan 19, 2010
Jesus is
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by AbuZola3(m): 5:10pm On Jan 19, 2010
Kola don't gve me link, just explain
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by TrueSeeker(m): 9:34pm On Jan 19, 2010
Abu Zola:

But jesus died without even leaving a scripture or guideline, the jews killed him, isn't this funny

Your level of reasoning always amuse me, how can you say Jesus Christ died without even leaving a guideline?

When your Quran even confirmed that Jesus the son of Mary was giving Gospel. And this Gospel is integral part of the Bible. All of Jesus teachings and how he live his life can be found there. May be you have never care to read it in your life, pls Mr. Abuzola try to read some excerpt from Matthew chapter 5 through 7, there you will get insight to some of his teachings, then you will know whether Jesus leave guideline or not.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by Fhemmmy: 10:56pm On Jan 19, 2010
jesus
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by macayub(m): 8:48am On Jan 20, 2010
Jesus Christ is King of kings, Lord of lords, so he is the Greatest among who ever lived.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by dammytim: 8:54am On Jan 20, 2010
Everyone acknowledged that, even Mohammad believe Jesus to be greater.
So Jesus is the Greatest
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by kolaoloye(m): 10:13am On Jan 20, 2010
Abu Zola:

Kola don't gve me link, just explain
Haba! shocked shocked You mean you are too lazy to open a link.
My friend, just click on the link and be enlightened.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by TrueSeeker(m): 4:33pm On Jan 20, 2010
@Abuzola
have you read the book of Matthew Chapter 5 through 7
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by AbuZola3(m): 6:42pm On Jan 20, 2010
@True seeker- I have not yet check it, kindly post it here, for ur info, In Islam the Gospel of jesus was revealed to Jesus and not paul, After jesus ascension, the jews and the romans burnt all the scripture and killed those who memorized it saying that jesus was a hoax, liar and a false Prophet simply Because the so called messiah was put to death, not knowing that it was judas they killed and not jesus. It was after centuries upon centuries that Paul said he received God's message. Do you actually know that Paul believe jesus have a God ? If no then i will be glad to take u a tour in the bible where paul declared so in the bible
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by AbuZola3(m): 6:45pm On Jan 20, 2010
@kola- am too lazy to put on my laptop and follow the link. My fone is portable and i enjoy using it coz of it vulnerabity
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jan 20, 2010
I can see that Jesus has won d contest as d greatest man that ever live.Jesus lived for just 33&1/2 years&made impact in pples lives positively,without committing sin,didnt kill any1 but rather raised 4dead pple back to life=lazarus,son of jarus,child of widow of nile etc,healed d sick,gave comfort to little children,set captives free.Woh d man is just 3much.
It is such fun to see,that satan loose.JESUS IS A WINNER MAN,A WINNER MAN ALL D TIME.UP JESUS,DOWN SATAN
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by okgerald(m): 8:27pm On Jan 20, 2010
sorry, i dont really know who the greatest is but to say jesus (of the bible) is greatest does not appeal to sensible reasoning going by the fact that he was beaten blue black by his creations and subsequently fastened to a tree to rot. And u call that great? men! can u beat that
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jan 20, 2010
ok.gerald:

sorry,  i   dont   really   know  who  the   greatest  is   but  to   say  jesus  (of  the  bible)   is  greatest   does  not  appeal  to  sensible  reasoning   going   by   the   fact   that  he   was   beaten  blue   black  by  his  creations  and  subsequently   fastened   to  a  tree   to  rot.    And  u   call  that  great?  men!   can  u   beat   that   
Yes. Who amongst any man who lived,living/would live after would be so submissive as to allow himself to be treated like that,having comitted no sins? U cant allow dat neither will i allow any1 beat me without responding back.Jesus was different.D bible described him as a man who never sinned in his entire life.Adam,moses,Abraham David,Paul etc all sinned.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jan 20, 2010
ok.gerald:

sorry,  i   dont   really   know  who  the   greatest  is   but  to   say  jesus  (of  the  bible)   is  greatest   does  not  appeal  to  sensible  reasoning   going   by   the   fact   that  he   was   beaten  blue   black  by  his  creations  and  subsequently   fastened   to  a  tree   to  rot.    And  u   call  that  great?  men!   can  u   beat   that   
Yes. Who amongst any man who lived,living/would live after would be so submissive as to allow himself to be treated like that,having comitted no sins? U cant allow dat neither will i allow any1 beat me without responding back.Jesus was different.D bible described him as a man who never sinned in his entire life.Adam,moses,Abraham David,Paul etc all sinned.
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by AbuZola3(m): 9:52pm On Jan 20, 2010
Toba, do you read ur bible, jesus did not want to die so stop lying, check luke 22:42 'father, if thou art willing, remove this cup (cup of death) from me'
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by Nobody: 8:01am On Jan 21, 2010
Abu Zola:

Toba, do you read your bible, jesus did not want to die so stop lying, check luke 22:42 'father, if thou art willing, remove this cup (cup of death) from me'
Hav never read anything different 4rm u rather than luke22.It shows u dnt know more that.
My question for u did he eventually or not? Simple question
Did he complete is mission or not?
Did he marry any widow for money or not?
Did he kill anybody with his hands or ordered a Jihad in Jerusalem,judea,medina/makka? If he didnt,Hes d greatest man
Re: Who Is The Greatest Man Ever Lived by AbuZola3(m): 8:24am On Jan 21, 2010
Hahaha, atleast i refuted you in luke 22 that jesus didn't want to die like you claim above. Check matthew 14:23 to show you that jesus is not God but a servant of God. Go

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