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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:32am On Apr 25, 2017
dalaman:


They were killed in the name of atheism?

Sir D , we have discussed this issue over and over again . Right now in North Korea , atheists kill any one who has religious beliefs and yes because they believe there is no God .

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hahn(m): 9:32am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Mtcheew

https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

Keep posting links to your dead threads

Shame no dey catch you? After all the Ls you have received on them cheesy grin

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 9:33am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Ugh ! Another shallow thought from the usual . I said "atheists" not "atheism" . Atheists believe the universe came from nothing does not mean all atheists believe that . The logic behind my statement is : since atheists reject the existence of a creator then a universe from nothing fits properly into atheistic beliefs .

No it doesn't. Many atheist don't know how the universe came about and always say it. Tell me one atheist on nairaland that has claimed that the universe came from nothing . Mention one. Lawrence Krauss is an individual he is not atheism.
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hahn(m): 9:33am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Sir D , we have discussed this issue over and over again . Right now in North Korea , atheists kill any one who has religious beliefs and yes because they believe there is no God .

And your puny god sits back and watches

Let that sink in undecided

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 9:35am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Sir D , we have discussed this issue over and over again . Right now in North Korea , atheists kill any one who has religious beliefs and yes because they believe there is no God .

Just as your God commanded that people be killed including their animals and sacrificed as burnt offering to him because they worshipped other Gods.

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 9:39am On Apr 25, 2017
hahn:


Lol

Guy are you still a Christian? cheesy

He is not a a christian. At least he doesn't even believe in the bible and how it says it's God created the universe. KingEbukasBlog, how did Yahweh create planet earth? You claim you communicate with him. Communicate with him.and tell us. Or are you telling duluded lies as usual when you claim to communicate with the creator of the planet earth?

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:39am On Apr 25, 2017
dalaman:


No it doesn't. Many atheist don't know how the universe came about and always say it.

Sir , I dont understand how you of all people don't get this . If you don't know how the universe came about , it means you can't say if it was created or not created ; contingent or non contingent; necessarily existing or not . Then you have no logical reason to be an atheist which rejects the existence of a creator . Simple !

Tell me one atheist on nairaland that has claimed that the universe came from nothing . Mention one. Lawrence Krauss is an individual he is not atheism.

AgentofAllah , Kay17 tacitly agrees with Lawrence Krauss .

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:43am On Apr 25, 2017
dalaman:


He is not a a christian. At least he doesn't even believe in the bible and how it says it's God created the universe. KingEbukasBlog, how did Yahweh create planet earth? You claim you communicate with him. Communicate with him.and tell us. Or are you telling duluded lies as usual when you claim to communicate with the creator of the planet earth?

grin grin . Because I don't know how God created the universe does not mean God did not create the universe . I don't need to know how something was created to accept it was created . We just had this same argument 3 days ago sir . Don't forget how you incessantly used the anthropocentric fallacy to support your argument grin
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:47am On Apr 25, 2017
hahn:


Keep posting links to your dead threads

Shame no dey catch you? After all the Ls you have received on them cheesy grin

grin grin . Na you kill the thread tongue Hehe .

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by Nobody: 9:49am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Sir D , we have discussed this issue over and over again . Right now in North Korea , atheists kill any one who has religious beliefs and yes because they believe there is no God .

How you manage to just reduce a complex and sectarian problem in a particular region that has strong historical and political underpinnings to just a problem of atheism is really appalling. You are definitely not a person I'd want to have a conversation with on any subject because you seem to be someone who would be inclined to lie and make uneducated and uninformed assertions and parade them as fact just to support your argument. I don't even know why anyone takes you seriously.

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 9:59am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


grin grin . Because I don't know how God created the universe does not mean God did not create the universe . I don't need to know how something was created to accept it was created . We just had this same argument 3 days ago sir . Don't forget how you incessantly used the anthropocentric fallacy to support your argument grin

This is a different case. You claim to communicate with the creator of the earth which is a living being that speaks and understands the human language. Communicate with it and tell us how it created the earth. . Or is your claim of communication delusion at its finest?

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:00am On Apr 25, 2017
Stewie101:


How you manage to just reduce a complex and sectarian problem in a particular region that has strong historical and political underpinnings to just a problem of atheism is really appalling. You are definitely not a person I'd want to have a conversation with on any subject because you seem to be someone who would be inclined to lie and make uneducated and uninformed assertions and parade them as fact just to support your argument. I don't even know why anyone takes you seriously.

North Korea practice state atheism . And an atheist state is normally intolerant of religious views and practices especially the theistic religions . And this stemmed from their belief that there is no God and that man not God is the arbiter of moral values and duties as a way of justifying their horrendous acts against religious people.

The same way an Islamic state is rabid and intolerant of beliefs outside Islam , its the same an atheist state is intolerant of beliefs about the existence of God . Killing the defiant ones who challenge or disobey the authorities is also part of what being intolerant means .

Don't accuse me of lying to mask your ignorance .

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hopefulLandlord: 10:02am On Apr 25, 2017
is there anyone ready to answer the OP? why do Christians rage when we demand for proof of their god's existence?
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 10:05am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Sir , I dont understand how you of all people don't get this . If you don't know how the universe came about , it means you can't say if it was created or not created ; contingent or non contingent; necessarily existing or not . Then you have no logical reason to be an atheist which rejects the existence of a creator . Simple !

Atheism is simply the rejection or disbelief in Gods. Gods are man made ideas and creations. The universe isn't a man made idea or creation. Note the difference.



AgentofAllah , Kay17 tacitly agrees with Lawrence Krauss .

OK. I haven't seen any arguments from them in support of what you are saying. But even if they agree they are individuals and they do not represent atheism in any way.

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:05am On Apr 25, 2017
dalaman:


This is a different case. You claim to communicate with the creator of the earth which is a living being that speaks and understands the human language. Communicate with it and tell us how it created the earth. . Or is your claim of communication delusion at its finest?

God expresses freedom of will as a personal creator . What if God does not want to tell me ?
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:09am On Apr 25, 2017
dalaman:


Atheism is simply the rejection or disbelief in Gods. Gods are man made ideas and creations. The universe isn't a man made idea or creation. Note the difference.

What the ... . Oh come on sir . By this logic , since atheism is a man made invention then my view of a created universe is automatically validated . Where was this reasoning all this time my kind sir wink


OK. I haven't seen any arguments from them in support of what you are saying. But even if they agree they are individuals and they do not represent atheism in any way.

Of course . But don't forget , one of the expected corollaries of rejecting the existence of God is that the universe came from nothing . Yeah ?

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 10:14am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


God expresses freedom of will as a personal creator . What if God does not want to tell me ?

Why won't he want to tell you? God according to you guys wants people to KNOW that he created the earth and everything. It is IMPORTANT to God that people know that he alone created the earth. Before people got to know many things. The creation myth written inside the bible was used as evidence of how God allegedly created the earth. When people got to know a lot about things it was thrown away and said to be an allegory. Telling you will gain him converts from both atheist and other theist. It will make people know that he alone is God the creator that created everything.

Just ask him to tell you how he created the Earth after all the Jesus (God) in the bible says what ever you ask him for you shall recieve . Ask him.to tell you how he created the earth else just accept you are delusional.
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 10:15am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


What the ... . Oh come on sir . By this logic , since atheism is a man made invention then my view of a created universe is automatically validated . Where was this reasoning all this time my kind sir wink

Not at all. Just trying to point out the dichotomy between the universe and God. One is a man made created entity while the other isn't factually speaking that is.




Of course . But don't forget , one of the expected corollaries of rejecting the existence of God is that the universe came from nothing . Yeah ?

Not necessarily so. I don't believe the universe came from nothing but I disbelief in all Gods.
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hopefulLandlord: 10:16am On Apr 25, 2017
dalaman:


Why won't he want to tell you? God according to you guys wants people to KNOW that he created the earth and everything. It is IMPORTANT to God that people know that he alone created the earth. Before people got to know many things. The creation myth written inside the bible was used as evidence of how God allegedly created the earth. When people got to know a lot about things it was thrown away and said to be an allegory. Telling you will gain him converts from both atheist and other theist. It will make people know that he alone is God the creator that created everything.

Just ask him to tell you how he created the Earth after all the Jesus (God) in the bible says what ever you ask him for you shall recieve . Ask him.to tell you how he created the earth else just accept you are delusional.

Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by frank317: 10:21am On Apr 25, 2017
Stewie101:


How you manage to just reduce a complex and sectarian problem in a particular region that has strong historical and political underpinnings to just a problem of atheism is really appalling. You are definitely not a person I'd want to have a conversation with on any subject because you seem to be someone who would be inclined to lie and make uneducated and uninformed assertions and parade them as fact just to support your argument. I don't even know why anyone takes you seriously.

You should know how many times i have said this on this forum. The bad news is that the guy is grooming other fellow Christians who see him as a king to make unfounded arguments and hold them as facts. Felixomor comes to mind.

In all my life i have never seen one so dumb yet makes so much noise about it...

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by felixomor: 10:47am On Apr 25, 2017
frank317:


[s]You should know how many times i have said this on this forum. The bad news is that the guy is grooming other fellow Christians who see him as a king to make unfounded arguments and hold them as facts. Felixomor comes to mind.

In all my life i have never seen one so dumb yet makes so much noise about it[/s] ...

Can someone donate a brain to this fella?
He never makes any point on Nairaland angry
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by CatfishBilly: 10:48am On Apr 25, 2017
felixomor:


Can someone donate a brain to this fella?
He never makes any point on Nairaland angry
You mean a brain that sleeps?

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by felixomor: 10:49am On Apr 25, 2017
CatfishBilly:

You mean a brain that sleeps?

I dont mind.
He lacks one. cheesy
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by CatfishBilly: 10:50am On Apr 25, 2017
felixomor:


I dont mind.
He lacks one. cheesy
It takes one to know one.

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by felixomor: 10:53am On Apr 25, 2017
CatfishBilly:

It takes one to know one.

Sorry, your ideas are flying.
Have you found a brain for him?
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by Nobody: 10:54am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


North Korea practice state atheism . And an atheist state is normally intolerant of religious views and practices especially the theistic religions . And this stemmed from their belief that there is no God and that man not God is the arbiter of moral values and duties as a way of justifying their horrendous acts against religious people.

The same way an Islamic state is rabid and intolerant of beliefs outside Islam , its the same an atheist state is intolerant of beliefs about the existence of God . Killing the defiant ones who challenge or disobey the authorities is also part of what being intolerant means .

Don't accuse me of lying to mask your ignorance .

What do you mean by an atheist state? Do you even know how that sounds? And how can you compare that with an Islamic state? An Islamic state is one which upholds the supremacy of the laws in the Quran and it's reaffirmation in the Hadith and the Sunna as the set of laws that should be implemented and enforced throughout all the country. Atheism isn't a religion. Atheism doesn't have a codified system of beliefs and laws. Atheism doesn't have a book that is believed to be divinely inspired by a supreme being. Atheism is just a disbelief in the existence of god due to uncompelling and irrational arguments for his existence.

North Korea is a despotic, communist country ruled by a dictator. And any dictator can use whatever beliefs and ideologies to justify any system of rule, especially when he doesn't want any form of polarization, which religious belief and diversity seems to create. This doesn't make that belief intrinsically antithetical to social and moral progress. How about strongly progressive secular countries like Denmark and Sweden? Why aren't they experiencing the equivalent of what's happening in North Korea?

I am still wondering how your response is an argument against atheism. Atheism isn't a political ideology. You should learn to disentangle political ideas from ideas bothering on religion. Atheism existing within a democratic, liberal political framework, effectively facilitates the opposite of what's happening in North Korea.

And am I the only one that is noticing how you are conveniently refusing to acknowledge other factors influencing the current social picture in North Korea? I am talking of factors like popaganda, brainwashing and the systematic stifling of independent critical thinking. Last time i checked, these are the kind of things atheists are strongly against.

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by AgentOfAllah: 11:06am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:

AgentofAllah , Kay17 tacitly agrees with Lawrence Krauss .
I doubt I have ever claimed that the "universe came from nothing". I don't even know what "nothing" means. Nor do I know what Laurence Krauss' views are on the subject matter, so it is curious how you've come to infer that I "tacitly" endorse his supposed view of the origins of the universe.

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hahn(m): 11:09am On Apr 25, 2017
AgentOfAllah:
I doubt I have ever claimed that the "universe came from nothing". I don't even know what "nothing" means. Nor do I know what Laurence Krauss' views are on the subject matter, so it is curious how you've come to infer that I "tacitly" endorse his supposed view of the origins of the universe.

Kingebukasblog, we dey wait oooo

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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hopefulLandlord: 11:10am On Apr 25, 2017
I'm starting to like this Stewie101 guy, don't let it get to your big head though tongue
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hahn(m): 11:11am On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


grin grin . Na you kill the thread tongue Hehe .

Answer the damn question and stop throwing big words in a bid to color your empty statements

Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs?
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by Nobody: 11:14am On Apr 25, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
I'm starting to like this Stewie101 guy, don't let it get to your big head though tongue

tongue
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:14am On Apr 25, 2017
dalaman:


Why won't he want to tell you? God according to you guys wants people to KNOW that he created the earth and everything. It is IMPORTANT to God that people know that he alone created the earth. Before people got to know many things. The creation myth written inside the bible was used as evidence of how God allegedly created the earth. When people got to know a lot about things it was thrown away and said to be an allegory.

Even before modern scientific evidence backed theism , theologians believed the sixth-day creation shouldn't be taken literary . First it was Jewish scholar Philo of Alexandria in the first century and then Christian theologian Augustine of Hippo also made the same observation in the 4th century .

Telling you will gain him converts from both atheist and other theist. It will make people know that he alone is God the creator that created everything.

Just ask him to tell you how he created the Earth after all the Jesus (God) in the bible says what ever you ask him for you shall recieve . Ask him.to tell you how he created the earth else just accept you are delusional.

What makes something an enigma ? The mystery or wonder behind its existence , behavior or acts . Let's look at the magicians . What makes magic interesting is that the magicians' prestidigitation or subterfuge is difficult to decipher . His acts of magic leaves you transfixed . If a magician reveals the mystery behind his acts then it ceases to be an enigma . You immediately lose interest .

One of the laws of power is never to be an open book . You lose control over people or their interests if they could easily understand you or predict your moves . Mystery excites the mind . God could have seen things this way . Please mind you . I'm not saying this is what it is , I'm saying this could be what it is

I think God wants man to relish the wonder behind His existence and his works ; to work tirelessly employing different ways and means to make these discoveries and that is what makes science(the study of God's works or nature ) and the philosophy of theism intriguing and exciting . Unlike atheism which is vapid and soporific

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