dalaman:


They are man made ideas and conception. Now tell.me when any God personally told you that he created the universe alone. When and where dI'd such a God tell you that?

Blogthug:


don't play dumb now, (G)od by classical theism is defined as creator of universe, so prove God doesn't exist, or u agree God exists since everything exists?

Blogthug:


can u prove this?

Blogthug:


pointing out a fallacy and ur asking me to answer? seriously? what kind of atheists do u people breed here?

Blogthug:


lol, come and see Nairaland atheists logic *laughs in Nothing "

hopefulLandlord:


its supposed to be "Christianity vs Atheism" the title of the thread points to that

now don't let the door hit you on your way out

dalaman:


I question my atheistic belief. Atheism is true because all Gods are man made creations and ideas.

KingEbukasBlog:


Theism is true because atheism is a man made creation and idea .


Sir , You really need to understand how silly this statement . I laugh hysterically every time you say it .

AgentOfAllah:
I do not reject the existence of a first cause, I only assert that there is nothing that makes it necessary. Both Newtonian and relativistic models, which are predicated on a "cause-effect" relationship, suffer a catastrophic breakdown just moments after whatever events birthed the universe as we know it. To further complicate things, quantum theory, which may describe some of the pre-inflation phenomena, enshrines in its postulates, the inexorability of true randomness. As such, we may even have irrevocably lost a considerable amount of information describing the previous state(s) of the universe. How then can I say for sure?

dalaman:

It is actually a factual statement. All religions and Gods are man made creations. Gods do not exist on their own outside human belief.

KingEbukasBlog:


It is actually a factual statement . Atheism is man made invention . The belief there is no God is a mere human belief and its totally incongruous with reality

dalaman:


Sure the belief that there are no Gods is the same one as the belief that there are Gods. All man made creation. We know how humans started in their history of belief. Himans started worshipping things on nature like mountains, thunder, stars, sun, rivers etc as they advanced they invented invisible beings to help them better understand the world around then and to instill what ever concept of morality the want their societies to live by.

Your own idea of God, the one that has a son and came into the world and sacrificed himself unto himself so that he can save humans from some elusive doom if only they accepted the invented stories was just invented about 2000 years ago. 3000 years ago there was no Jesus as the son of God or no God that exist as a trinity that came down to earth and had himself killed anywhere in human history.

KingEbukasBlog:


We also know that the followers of Charvaka atheist school of "philosophy" in India alongside Diagoras of Melos 2500 years ago were without doubt the very first people who developed the idea that there is no God . 3,000 and 4000 years before the aforementioned time there was no recorded person in history that espoused such atheistic beliefs .

dalaman:


Sure, doesn't matter. The reality is that both atheism and theism are man made inventions. Without men there won't be theism or atheism.

dalaman:

This is completely not true considering the fact that there are gazillions of stars (suns) that have many earth like planets all over the universe. That we have a sun and the earth is nothing considering the fact that there are gazillions of such occurance all over the universe.

KingEbukasBlog:


Let me deign to your level and think like you just this once . Our cars generators produce carbon mono oxide which is deleterious to our health . Because this harmful gas released as waste can even kill us therefore cars , generators have no creators ?

Sarin is a dangerous chemical weapon and was recently used by President Assad on the Syrians . Because it has devastating effects on the health therefore Sarin is not a product of intelligent design ?



Its an honor to be in the same category with felixomor . Thank you

KingEbukasBlog:


Another anthropocentric fallacy . The universe is not human-centered . The Creator fine-tuned the universe to be life-permitting . And in other planets there could be other intelligent beings that could have conflicting thoughts and beliefs about the creator's existence .

hopefulLandlord:


looollll, you think I'm lying? you're probably confusing me for your Yahweh

3.15 minutes video is all you can give? a debate that actually lasted almost 3 hours? look at the picture I have 90 different full debates not all these excerpts you watch and pretend you've watched everything


Chai!! you keep exposing yourself today, what embarrassment would be left for tomorrow if you use everything up today?

KingEbukasBlog:


The discussion is based on what we know about life on earth . The information obtained from this research is the basis of Craig's argument . Your response does not refute it in any way .

dalaman:


Some other researchers said have stated that the research is misleading and false.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/dn13694-evolution-myths-evolution-is-just-so-unlikely/amp/

CoolUsername:
Ebuka right now:

KingEbukasBlog:




You had a chance to ask the atheist Billyonaire how he was able to accept that consciousness exists without matter since He claims to astral project but rejects the existence of God . Its funny that no atheist criticizes him for his claims or even dare question him to prove his claims .

Una hypocrisy no be here oo . .

I understand . The ministry has to go forward

Ha fa na ?

CoolUsername:


If he claims to astral project, he may very well be telling truth. The question is if he truly projects his consciousness. Until there is empirical evidence, there's nothing really to debate. His claims simply aren't damaging enough to warrant stiff criticism.

I was just poking fun at the way your arguments were getting prematurely aborted.

KingEbukasBlog:


He also claimed that he communicates with aliens . Maybe he met Thor and Loki, do you think he has been to Asgard ?



My arguments have been cogent . Nothing was refuted . The Stewie guy was just ignorant that's all . I mean we all were at some point and even obdurate about our views .

CoolUsername:


I'm just not interested in engaging him. He isn't perpetuating damaging lies like "Hitler was an atheist" or "Stalin, Lenin and Mao killed for atheistic purposes" so I really don't feel the need to intervene.

Just the way if you only stuck to your talk of stone age hyperspace portals or whatever I won't have gotten on your case.

But your constant trolling (some of your posts show you know better than some of the things you say when trying to prove a point) makes you fair game for humour.

You're definitely not Christian. You probably aren't even deist but you would take whatever stance that would let you 'win' the argument for that day. In other words, you're easy to make fun of.

hopefulLandlord:


you're not a kid, tell us the difference between Vishnu and Yahweh, which one is gods and which one is God?

seems we have another person here to embarrass himself

Blogthug:


anyone killed in the name of "Theism " ? lol

Blogthug:


god's are man made ideas correct, if ideas exist then those god's Exists this doesn't imply to God tho, note the capital G