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Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Icosahedron(m): 6:24pm On May 10, 2017
A certain attitude peculiar to most theists is deriding established scientific facts that challenges and/or contradicts their ignorance induced delusions.

While this post may appear to be directed towards theists(at least for now) most atheists are guilty of this and I shall explain and further prove my point.

On the Theory Of Evolution.

Most people do drop negative(and heartbreaking) comments on evolution both online and offline, these group of people tend to say things like "Evolution is false" the most annoying part is that most people that fall under this category only know about Evolution from reading internet articles and watching YouTube videos. Please before you go ahead to to say, "I don't believe in Evolution" make sure you really do understand what evolution is, go for a doctorate degree in Genetics and engage in research, by then you must have gotten a better overview of the subject in general.

Also, if you insist evolution is false, then gather your evidence and publish your findings on a reputable science journal and watch yourself become the most popular human alive, until then, stop spreading ignorance on the internet.


On the Big Bang Theory
Most theists asks atheists questions like "so you believe that the universe came from nothing?", well, the irony there is that 100% of the theists do not understand what Physicists mean by the word "nothing". Please, before you come to internet forums to deride the Big Bang Theory, first of all obtain a Phd in Pure Mathematics, for by then you must have covered rigorous and abstract topics such as Riemannian Geometry, Functional Analysis, Abstract Algebra and Advanced Partial Differential Equations. Afterwards, proceed further to obtain a Phd in Theoretical Physics, at least by then you must have been intellectually sophisticated enough to argue on scientific topics as sophisticated as the Big Bang Theory.


The Mathematics behind the Big Bang Theory is too deep, yet people jump into threads and pronounce it as false or absurd without having even the slightest understanding of the topic.

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by CatfishBilly: 10:45pm On May 10, 2017
I can mention names for you.
Felixomor deriding evolution with that funny PhD holder of his Jonathan Wells who denies evolution without a single research article published in a reputable journal to back up his claim.


DoctorAlien that discards radiometric dating despite the fact that it won a Nobel prize and is the most common dating method in all of science, he is yet to write his own research article and publish it in a journal to explain why radiometric dating should be disregarded.

Their stock in trade is denying science. But what they don't realize is that no matter how much they deny science and refuse to accept it, it won't make it not true. They whole world will move on without them while they are still stuck in the past denying what everyone else has accepted.

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by felixomor: 10:54pm On May 10, 2017
CatfishBilly:
I can mention names for you.
Felixomor deriding evolution with that funny PhD holder of his Jonathan Wells who denies evolution without a single research article published in a reputable journal to back up his claim.


Doctoralien that discards radiometric dating despite the fact that it won a Nobel prize and is the most common dating method in all of science, he is yet to write his own research article and publish it in a journal to explain why radiometric dating should be disregarded.

Their stock in trade is denying science. But what they don't realize is that no matter how much they deny science and refuse to accept it, it won't make it not true. They whole world will move on without them while they are still stuck in the past denying what everyone else has accepted.

The funny thing is that many of the things u write about
U first heard it from us.

You were ignorant all the while about it.
Then all of a sudden, u become the professor inside after google.

Mscheww
Yeye dey smell.

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by OtemAtum: 11:01pm On May 10, 2017
The Big Bang isn't just a theory but a reality. It's a matter of not seeing what is causing the big bang because you can't see God, but seeing the aftermath of the big bang itself. God Almighty, the creator of Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu etc is the one right at the centre of the big bang. It was from him the force which resulted into the universe came from. The big bangs are continuous for GOD have even made many other spaces which I call the multiverses.
The scientists are right.
As per evolution, the scientists are right too. We humans have been reincarnated many times. The past homos on earth are coming back in the form of homo sapiens. That is evolution.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:01pm On May 10, 2017
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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:03pm On May 10, 2017
OtemAtum:
The Big Bang isn't just a theory but a reality. It's a matter of not seeing what is causing the big bang because you can't see God, but seeing the aftermath of the big bang itself. God Almighty, the creator of Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu etc is the one right at the centre of the big bang. It was from him the force which resulted into the universe came from. The big bangs are continuous for GOD have even made many other spaces which I call the multiverses.
The scientists are right.

Can you provide evidence for the multiverse or you just can't get enough of Marvel comic books ?

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by OtemAtum: 11:09pm On May 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Can you provide evidence for the multiverse or you just can't get enough of Marvel comic books ?
The things we see beyond the physical realms here cannot be snapped with a 3D camera and we don't even go into meditation with physical cameras, else it would have been possible to snap those things. The most exciting snapshot I could have brought back from my meditation is the sight of yahweh, Allah and many bad gods of religion currently being kept in the spiritual prison by their colleagues. But unfortunately, just as we can't snap dreams and revelations with cameras, I can't as well produce them. But same way the scribes record their experiences in books and tablets, I have the evidences in books too,though I know it won't be enough evidence, same way the claim that the religious god created the world is not enough of evidence.

DOCTUFOS: Otem Erectus 3:10

10. God has made other universes, even when the universe he made before is unlimited in space and time and knowledge. For only God himself can determine the limit of his creations, because their limits are unlimited to human understanding.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by CatfishBilly: 11:12pm On May 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


You are nauseatingly ignorant . Atheists especially the Raelns also reject evolution and the Big Bang theory . The Big Bang Theory was first proposed by a theist , a Belgian priest in fact - Georges Lemaitre - and has been embraced by both theists and atheists . Anyone theists and atheists alike can reject both theories for whatever reason .
Shey you see, your bias won't let you calm down and read.
The op was calling out people who are deriding science without having the necessary qualifications or without writing a counter article and publishing it in a scientific journal.
This includes theists and atheists, he clearly called both groups out.
But your bias won't let you see it. It's right there in the OP

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:14pm On May 10, 2017
OtemAtum:
The things we see beyond the physical realms here cannot be snapped with a 3D camera and we don't even go into meditation with physical cameras, else it would have been possible to snap those things. The most exciting snapshot I could have brought back from my meditation is the sight of yahweh, Allah and many bad gods of religion currently being kept in the spiritual prison by their colleagues. But unfortunately, just as we can't snap dreams and revelations with cameras, I can't as well produce them. But same way the scribes record their experiences in books and tablets, I have the evidences in books too,though I know it won't be enough evidence, same way the claim that the religious god created the world is not enough of evidence.

Can you provide evidence for the multiverse ?
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by OtemAtum: 11:19pm On May 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Can you provide evidence for the multiverse ?

It is a historical evidence from the lost scrolls of the past homos on earth. Here is it:

DOCTUFOS: OTEM ERECTUS 3:10
10. God has made other universes, even when the universe he made before is unlimited in space and time and knowledge. For only God himself can determine the limit of his creations, because their limits are unlimited to human understanding.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:20pm On May 10, 2017
CatfishBilly:

Shey you see, your bias won't let you calm down and read.
The op was calling out people who are deriding science without having the necessary qualifications or without writing a counter article and publishing it in a scientific journal.
This includes theists and atheists, he clearly called both groups out.
But your bias won't let you see it. It's right there in the OP

You must be very ignorant to make this idiotic comment :

Most theists asks atheists questions like "so you believe that the universe came from nothing?", well, the irony there is that 100% of the theists do not understand what Physicists mean by the word "nothing"

How many atheists have achieved anything in the field of science , how many of them have won Nobel Prizes in the field of science ? Its less than 10 percent the last time I checked and that's when they were combined with agnostics , deists and freethinkers . What gave you the audacity to disparage theists and make idiotic generalizations ? What nonsense !

Quack doctor !

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:21pm On May 10, 2017
OtemAtum:


It is a historical evidence from the lost scrolls of the past homos on earth. Here is it:



Can you provide any evidence for the multiverse ?
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by OtemAtum: 11:27pm On May 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Can you provide any evidence for the multiverse ?
Am I speaking with a robot
Okay, I am a little bit robotic too. Here is it:

DOCTUFOS: 10. God has made other universes, even when the universe he made before is unlimited in space and time and knowledge. For only God himself can determine the limit of his creations, because their limits are unlimited to human understanding.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:30pm On May 10, 2017
OtemAtum:
Am I speaking with a robot
Okay, I am a little bit robotic too. Here is it:



I'm very serious . Can you provide evidence for the multiverse ?
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by OtemAtum: 11:36pm On May 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


I'm very serious . Can you provide evidence for the multiverse ?
What about the scriptural evidence I provided earlier?
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by CatfishBilly: 11:37pm On May 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


You must be very ignorant to make this idiotic comment :

Most theists asks atheists questions like "so you believe that the universe came from nothing?", well, the irony there is that 100% of the theists do not understand what Physicists mean by the word "nothing"

How many atheists have achieved anything in the field of science , how many of them have won Nobel Prizes in the field of science ? Its less than 10 percent the last time I checked and that's when they were combined with agnostics , deists and freethinkers . What gave you the audacity to disparage theists and make idiotic generalizations ? What nonsense !
You've now clearly turned it into a theist vs atheist that it is not.
Your bias didn't let you see this part of his quote where it is clearly stated.
While this post may appear to be directed towards theists(at least for now) most atheists are guilty of this and I shall explain and further prove my point.
Why the anger? Did an atheist bully you in school? Steal your lunch money? Steal your girlfriend?

Quack doctor !
Sure, you can repeat that as often as you like, it might make you sleep well at night, but it won't make you feel good about yourself and won't fill that hollow inside your skull that makes you call everyone better than you a Quack.

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by EVarn(m): 11:42pm On May 10, 2017
Icosahedral..hmm....that is the shape of most viruses.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Icosahedron(m): 11:55pm On May 10, 2017
OtemAtum:
The things we see beyond the physical realms here cannot be snapped with a 3D camera and we don't even go into meditation with physical cameras, else it would have been possible to snap those things. The most exciting snapshot I could have brought back from my meditation is the sight of yahweh, Allah and many bad gods of religion currently being kept in the spiritual prison by their colleagues. But unfortunately, just as we can't snap dreams and revelations with cameras, I can't as well produce them. But same way the scribes record their experiences in books and tablets, I have the evidences in books too,though I know it won't be enough evidence, same way the claim that the religious god created the world is not enough of evidence.




Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by CatfishBilly: 11:58pm On May 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
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Why are you editing your write up?
Seen how ridiculous it was?
Happy birthday, btw
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:09am On May 11, 2017
CatfishBilly:

Why are you editing your write up?
Seen how ridiculous it was?

Not really . I mistook the OP for you , I saw my mistake and the best way was to expunge the post . And apologies to Icosahedron for the mistake.

Happy birthday, btw

Thanks smiley
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by OtemAtum: 12:24am On May 11, 2017
Icosahedron:



Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence.
Hmmm, good one. And when extraordinary evidences are given, only the extraordinary beings can believe it, ordinary people can't.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Richirich713: 6:07am On May 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


You must be very ignorant to make this idiotic comment :

Most theists asks atheists questions like "so you believe that the universe came from nothing?", well, the irony there is that 100% of the theists do not understand what Physicists mean by the word "nothing"

How many atheists have achieved anything in the field of science , how many of them have won Nobel Prizes in the field of science ? Its less than 10 percent the last time I checked and that's when they were combined with agnostics , deists and freethinkers . What gave you the audacity to disparage theists and make idiotic generalizations ? What nonsense !

Quack doctor !

100% of theists? grin funny enough it was a catholic priest who originally proposed a expanding universe. I guess LemaƮtre wasn't a "theist".

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Richirich713: 6:15am On May 11, 2017
The op says theists don't understand what "physicists" mean by the word "nothing", it's more like atheist physicists don't understand what everybody else means by the phrase "literally nothing".

Instead atheists like Lawrence Krauss are deliberately dishonest when they assert the universe came from "literally nothing", knowing the "nothing" he is referring to is not what a layman would consider literally nothing.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by hopefulLandlord: 6:20am On May 11, 2017
Richirich713:
The op says theists don't understand what "physicists" mean by the word "nothing", it's more like atheist physicists don't understand what everybody else means by the phrase "literally nothing".

Instead atheists like Lawrence Krauss are deliberately dishonest when they assert the universe came from "literally nothing", knowing the "nothing" he is referring to is not what a layman would consider literally nothing.

what would "a layman consider literally nothing"
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Icosahedron(m): 6:25am On May 11, 2017
Richirich713:


100% of theists? grin funny enough it was a catholic priest who originally proposed a expanding universe. I guess LemaƮtre wasn't a "theist".


Yes 100%, because this post is not directed to the scientific community, but towards ill informed theists that dismiss scientific theories like some sort of conspiracy or something.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Icosahedron(m): 9:49am On May 11, 2017
OtemAtum:
when extraordinary evidences are given, only the extraordinary beings can believe it



Do define what you mean by extraordinary beings, and make sure your definition is consistent with our scientific understanding of space-time and matter and does not possess special attribute(s) contrary and/or outside our knowledge of modern biology.

After giving a clear definition of the term "extraordinary beings", then hence or otherwise construct a mathematical or experimental proof to validate the existence of these so-called extraordinary beings.

Furthermore, provide explanations(with proofs of course) why your evidences can only be understandable to an extraordinary beings.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Richirich713: 1:04pm On May 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


what would "a layman consider literally nothing"

not anything, abolsultely nothing. No energy, no space, no sub-atomic particles, no quantum vacuum, no anything.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by hopefulLandlord: 1:44pm On May 11, 2017
Richirich713:


not anything, abolsultely nothing. No energy, no space, no sub-atomic particles, no quantum vacuum, no anything.

a layman's term for literally nothing is far and away below the standard you just gave but I do get your point
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Richirich713: 3:55pm On May 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


a layman's term for literally nothing is far and away below the standard you just gave but I do get your point

If u told a layman that the universe came from literally nothing, what do u think they would take that to mean?

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Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by hopefulLandlord: 3:57pm On May 11, 2017
Richirich713:


If u told a layman that the universe came from literally nothing, what do u think they would take that to mean?

the layman would think I mean the universe "popped out of thin air"
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by Richirich713: 4:09pm On May 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


the layman thinks I'm saying the universe "popped out of thin air"


I never heard of that in my entire life, I'm also pretty sure u never seen either grin

U know like I know they'll think u saying the universe came from nothing as I defined it earlier.
Re: Please Stop Abusing Scientific Theories Out Of Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:10pm On May 11, 2017
Richirich713:


I never heard of that in my entire life, I'm also pretty sure u never seen either grin

U know like I know they'll think u saying the universe came from nothing as I defined it earlier.

Atheists trying to define "nothing" and hoping it would make sense grin .

Circus clowns .

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