fortunejum:

bros, the truth of the matter is that you do not give in faith irrespective of what the pastor is saying. when you give, believe that you are giving to God but not to a pastor. keep on sowing by faith for you dont know which one will germinate. Am giving you a scriptural advise as a true MAN OF GOD.

azubike1:

This is quite terrible! I can imagine how you feel.

But I am not suprised. Christ warned us already that there would be plenty of fakes in the last days(mat 24:11,Mark 13:22,2Pet 2:1, ). Unfortunately there are two levels of deception and many of us here calling this guy mugu has also fallen into the second type of deception which is even worse. I will explain.

If you ever happen to use a fake panadol tablet, chances are that you would not use a panadol again. Some would even argue there is no real panadol in the market that the company closed down two years ago (as some of you are arguing now). That does not change the fact that there is a panadol. You see, the devil knows that if he brings in plenty of 'fake christianity' many people will simply shut down on any talk of Christianity. Nice ganmeplan he has and he is succeding in many lives.

Fact still remains that there is a God (the God) who loves you and has sent out men and women to guide the church in it's growth process(1 cor 12:28, Eph 4:11). Do not let the fakes deceive you into thinking thee is no real. Remember a day is coming when we will all face Him in judgement.

He reigns guys. Are you reigning with him?

If you want to discuss this further (maybe abuse me ) drop me a line on azubikeezeilo@gmail.com

Akaraoku$:

This story has re-enforced my decision to stop going to church.My experience is this :i'm from a catholic background strong one for that matter ,dad parish council chairman, mum strong member of bible society/sacred heart e.t.c.
After school i left home to begin life in Lagos as a working class adult.Initially i was attending the nearest catholic church to me but i was nut getting the much needed spiritual gratification-every sunday is 1st collection;2nd collection,harvest & bazzar,new church building,generator/church maintainance bla bla bla.
I left and decided to try a parish in R.C.C.G ,there i got another shocker! you can imagine a pastor on new year day first service telling his congregation that the past year was bad as people did not bring in enough money via tithing e.t.c i left before the end of the service and went to another R.C.C.G parish almost the story was repeated they were preaching about sowing towards church building and different types sowing.I left for home again feeling empty and sapped.
When i got home ,i made a decision to go back to my root which is Roman Catholic Church since there was no difference ,yet the same pangs of emptiness still hangs after some sunday masses.
There was also a sunday i drove around Lagos looking for a church that preaches more of salvation ,holiness & righteousness instead of money money money!
I have considered joining Deeper Life but i find most of their doctrines very radical though better than the biz guys that call themselves pastors!
I'm looking for a place in lagos (main land/island) where the ancient word of God is preached , mobile church/gathering is even prefarable .The church is just not the structure but individual souls!

Akaraoku$:

This story has re-enforced my decision to stop going to church.My experience is this :i'm from a catholic background strong one for that matter ,dad parish council chairman, mum strong member of bible society/sacred heart e.t.c.
After school i left home to begin life in Lagos as a working class adult.Initially i was attending the nearest catholic church to me but i was nut getting the much needed spiritual gratification-every sunday is 1st collection;2nd collection,harvest & bazzar,new church building,generator/church maintainance bla bla bla.
I left and decided to try a parish in R.C.C.G ,there i got another shocker! you can imagine a pastor on new year day first service telling his congregation that the past year was bad as people did not bring in enough money via tithing e.t.c i left before the end of the service and went to another R.C.C.G parish almost the story was repeated they were preaching about sowing towards church building and different types sowing.I left for home again feeling empty and sapped.
When i got home ,i made a decision to go back to my root which is Roman Catholic Church since there was no difference ,yet the same pangs of emptiness still hangs after some sunday masses.
There was also a sunday i drove around Lagos looking for a church that preaches more of salvation ,holiness & righteousness instead of money money money!
I have considered joining Deeper Life but i find most of their doctrines very radical though better than the biz guys that call themselves pastors!
I'm looking for a place in lagos (main land/island) where the ancient word of God is preached , mobile church/gathering is even prefarable .The church is just not the structure but individual souls!

Akaraoku$:

@Kufreabasi
My point exactly!!!

felifeli:

You have no point sir. YOU behaved foolishly and this post is CHILDISH.
Learn to walk with your  eyes wide open.  If you make it  a habit of walking with your eyes shut in the middle of an expressway expecting drivers to behave rationally and drive around you , don't expect to live long. Some mad driver will surely hit you and that doesn't imply that all drivers on the road are idiots any more than your presumption should imply that all pastors are thieves.

At this point I think that even if God had originally intended to reward your foolish behaviour with a job, I doubt that He will be inclined to anymore because you have compounded it with a greater foolishness of mocking Him. But then you never know with God !!

KunleOshob:

What most of you don't realize is that most pentecostal and Africanized churches are just a form of business enterprise aimed primarily to make money for the promoters

segyemaro:

Most of you are sounding assive u are not in nigeria,d nigerian pastors will do everything to make sure you are real brainwashed. I was in a church here in kaduna on an invitation, towards d end of program,d pastor said God want to see how many people have trust in him,d pastor now said all the members should bring the best valuable item they have to d church before the following sunday. On the following sunday i went to the church just to see what is realy going to happen. During d service when it was time for people to bring out all they brought,you need to see how people were bringing out fridges,DVD players,generator to the extend some brought cars,it was during dis time i left d church bicos it was a day robbery,so this things happens

pawa4ul:

[b]My bros and sis in NL, I do not wish to talk about this church thing, but if you don't wish to be pissed with all these SOW and REAP thing, you better stick to Govt churches (Anglican, Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, Presbitarian), or better still belong to Deeper Life Bible church where they are still preaching the style of Christ. As far as I am concerned, the preaching in churches today is 5% repentance, 2% holliness, and 93% Money! The most annoying part is that they will con it in a way that will even make you feel guilty like you are owing God. At the end of the day, they will use the money you have sown to build schools (very expensve ones) that even majority of the church members can not afford to take their children/wards to; they will buy TINTED glassed cars that you as a member cannot even see them to wave at them. They have made their position so tight that you as a member can not even see them freely. You have to feel all kings of forms at the gate, and in the end the Security operatives will end up telling you such lies as: The G.O is not around now, while he is inside attending to a well to do in the society who has come to SOW to him; and from the wave of the tide it now looks like the way to go will be for all General Overseers to have Private Jets.
what have the churches done for the citizens around them? In the past they were known for building free schools, giving electricity and water etc. Today, they want all these from you instead. LET US STOP DECEIVING OUR SELVES.[/b]

kola oloye:

The bible says, "it is much better to give than to receive".
Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he reap.