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Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by ndidibabe(f): 11:18am On Jan 18, 2010
I was in church last sunday when the pastor preached about how important our first fruit is.He defined first fruit as your first earning immediately you get job/contract and subsequently your first earning every year.One thing that puzzles me is that he said this first fruit should be paid directly to your pastor and not the church and he backed it up with the scriptures at Ezikiel 44:30.I am not here to condemn any pastor but want to be enlightened on this.Tx
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by freecocoa(f): 11:40am On Jan 18, 2010
I'll be back,i need to read the whole chapter 44 of ezekiel.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Mavenb0x(m): 12:10pm On Jan 18, 2010
grin grin Where is KunleOshob when you need him? ROTFL
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by freecocoa(f): 12:36pm On Jan 18, 2010
Ok am back and from what i understand,the first fruit here was to be given to the priests,the levites & the sons of zadok who took care of the sanctuary when the isrealites went astray,so i don't see how that applies to us today.why should that pastor single out the 1st fruit part alone out of everything in that chapter?am sure he read what was xpected of the priests too.this hapened under the law of moses when sacrifices were stil made but now jesus has done things right so these pastors should stop twisting the scripture for their own benefits.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by aletheia(m): 12:49pm On Jan 18, 2010
That "Pastor" is a thief.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by KunleOshob(m): 1:16pm On Jan 18, 2010
@Ndidbabe
i suggest you pack your load and flee that church, the pastor is obviously and glaringly a false teacher.

@mavenbox
you are not serious grin

@All
I keep on reteirating that all we need to guide the conduct of our christian lives is what was taught by Jesus and the apostles, that is what christianity is based on and not twisted old testament doctrines which was the basis of a totally different religion[Judaism] . The apostles warned against those who were trying to force jewish beliefs and doctrines into christianity [acts 15]
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by kolaoloye(m): 11:53am On Jan 19, 2010
ndidibabe:

I was in church last sunday when the pastor preached about how important our first fruit is.He defined first fruit as your first earning immediately you get job/contract and subsequently your first earning every year.One thing that puzzles me is that he said this first fruit should be paid directly to your pastor and not the church and he backed it up with the scriptures at Ezikiel 44:30.I am not here to condemn any pastor but want to be enlightened on this.Tx
The bible says: "Wisdom is the principal thing with all thy getting get understanding".
Open your eyes and be wise.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Wrex(m): 12:17pm On Jan 19, 2010
That pastor is definitely an armed robber without gun(s)
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Nobody: 12:19pm On Jan 19, 2010
If he even said first fruit only, I won't be as furious.  lipsrsealed lipsrsealed shocked shocked
How can he say first fruits of every single year?? shocked shocked

They are just turning around the scriptures to suit them.

A pastor here also said you pay tithe from your gross income before tax, not on the amount that gets into your hands (net income), I almost fainted when I heard
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by woro: 12:22pm On Jan 19, 2010
guy u beta wake up from your slumber allin d name of the  lord be watchful all dis pastors u know who dem be listen to fela your parents are there
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by CrudeOil2(m): 12:28pm On Jan 19, 2010
Thats only if I were mad. Even if . . .
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by applec: 12:29pm On Jan 19, 2010
i dont think is right to give one's first salary to the pastor, rather 10 percent of ones income should be giving to the church and not the pastor.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by manmustwac(m): 12:30pm On Jan 19, 2010
aletheia:

That "Pastor" is a thief.
They are all thieves
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by DGIPLUS(m): 12:35pm On Jan 19, 2010
I believe that life is by choice, you can still choose to give ur first fruit to God (Apstl Paul taught that those who don't do somethings should not condemn those who do). Since you can't see God, you do it thru ur own trusted Pastors. All firstfruits belong to God (Including ur first son, he must serve God). Thank you.

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Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by otokx(m): 12:36pm On Jan 19, 2010
Big thieves at that.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Pharoh: 12:42pm On Jan 19, 2010
This is not right at all.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by kolaoloye(m): 12:47pm On Jan 19, 2010
manmustwac:

They are all thieves
We still have some pastors that are real.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Nobody: 12:49pm On Jan 19, 2010
instead of pastors to emphasize on see the kingdom on God at last,but offering all the time.matt 6:33.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by ChuckD2(m): 12:52pm On Jan 19, 2010
First thing: That pastor should be stoned but for the love of Christ, let's forgive his greed 'cause it might be a weakness he's fighting against. But please, Whatever comes from your heart and makes you happy (both go together) is what I recommend you do. As a punishment for pastors like that - for those of us who may still feel he should be taught a lesson - I recommend that you take that "first fruit", show it to the pastor and tell him you're going to give it all to orphans. Make bile for rise enter im mouth because of im greed.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by tkb417(m): 12:53pm On Jan 19, 2010
i didnt even give when i started working so no more first fruits for me

i couldnt have been able to give that and die of starvation for another 20 days

tht couldnt have happened abeg

make tht Pastor rest
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by okeymadu(m): 12:57pm On Jan 19, 2010
How many of such pastors give their first fruits to charity in the first place? It is good and biblical to give first fruits. But I dont know if actually it is the first salary that one should give. Many pastors have taught on the need to give first salary as first fruit, but that doesn't stop them from doing harvest and still collecting more. Abeg these days I dont trust pastors like that oh.
Just tithe and keep ur money.

Chikena.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by 1forall: 1:02pm On Jan 19, 2010
What happens to parents?
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Demainman1: 1:03pm On Jan 19, 2010
First fruit ko, First food ni!
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by zmurda(m): 1:07pm On Jan 19, 2010
I think you should give your pastor your 'forst' fruit. And also all your subsequent salaries,
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by manmustwac(m): 1:10pm On Jan 19, 2010
kola oloye:

We still have some pastors that are real.
They must be a very small minority then.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by anishe(m): 1:12pm On Jan 19, 2010
First anf foremost, the pastor is a thief. i think we should consider our parents with the first fruit before the pastor.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Sagma(m): 1:17pm On Jan 19, 2010
Are u giving it to pastor or God? I think its gonna be better if we understand that all we're doing is for Christ sake. For me, giving my first fruit or even my first fruit of the year 2 God isn't too much. You give as to receive.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by bodsibobo(m): 1:18pm On Jan 19, 2010
To the Glory of God, I'm looking forward to the end of the month when I'll be paying mine (my entire January Salary) to Pastor E.A. Adeboye. I do not have any savings to fall back on, but I am convinced in my heart that the Lord God Almighty will see me through because His word says He will come through for me in ALL circumstances! And for the rest of the year, things will just naturally be falling into place where ordinarily they shouldn't.


Oooooohhh, I'm sooo excited! Somebody praise the Lord with me  - HALLELELUYAH!!

@All,

Sometimes we choose to be antagonistic to the very mysteries in the scriptures that open the door to divinely supernatural celestial solutions to earthly terrestrial matters. It's many times difiicult to fathom.

And before you guys start raining abuses, I'm speaking for myself o! And I'm not asking anybody to follow suit as it may not work for you since you do not believe anyway!!

oya, let the persecution commence
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by luvergal: 1:20pm On Jan 19, 2010
Give my first fruit abi? then later die of stavation then the pastor go happy shei?

Ok i dey come.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Elgaxton(m): 1:23pm On Jan 19, 2010
Hi all, even though it looks tough to give that first fruit, the bible does command to do so.

Exodus 23:16 (Amplified Bible)

16Also you shall keep the Feast of Harvest [Pentecost], [acknowledging] the firstfruits of your toil, of what you sow in the field. And [third] you shall keep the Feast of Ingathering [Booths or Tabernacles] at the end of the year, when you gather in the fruit of your labors from the field.

The truth is that there's no other way to be financially buoyant prescribed by the bible except by giving.

Those of you who put principles of first fruit and tithes into old testament and laws, have u ever thought about the fact that Abraham gave his first fruit and his tithe.

Hebrews 7
1FOR THIS Melchizedek, king of Salem [and] priest of the Most High God, met Abraham as he returned from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,

   2And Abraham gave to him a tenth portion of all [the spoil]. He is primarily, as his name when translated indicates, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, which means king of peace.

   3Without [record of] father or mother or ancestral line, neither with beginning of days nor ending of life, but, resembling the Son of God, he continues to be a priest without interruption and without successor.

   4Now observe and consider how great [a personage] this was to whom even Abraham the patriarch gave a tenth [the topmost or the pick of the heap] of the spoils.

   5And it is true that those descendants of Levi who are charged with the priestly office are commanded in the Law to take tithes from the people--which means, from their brethren--though these have descended from Abraham.

   6But this person who has not their Levitical ancestry received tithes from Abraham [himself] and blessed him who possessed the promises [of God].

   7Yet it is beyond all contradiction that it is the lesser person who is blessed by the greater one.

   8Furthermore, here [in the Levitical priesthood] tithes are received by men who are subject to death; while there [in the case of Melchizedek], they are received by one of whom it is testified that he lives [perpetually].

   9A person might even say that Levi [the father of the priestly tribe] himself, who received tithes (the tenth), paid tithes through Abraham,

   10For he was still in the loins of his forefather [Abraham] when Melchizedek met him [Abraham].

   11Now if perfection (a perfect fellowship between God and the worshiper) had been attainable by the Levitical priesthood--for under it the people were given the Law--why was it further necessary that there should arise another and different kind of Priest, one after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one appointed after the order and rank of Aaron?

   12For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is of necessity an alteration of the law [concerning the priesthood] as well.

   13For the One of Whom these things are said belonged [not to the priestly line but] to another tribe, no member of which has officiated at the altar.

   14For it is obvious that our Lord sprang from the tribe of Judah, and Moses mentioned nothing about priests in connection with that tribe.

   15And this becomes more plainly evident when another Priest arises Who bears the likeness of Melchizedek,(A)

   16Who has been constituted a Priest, not on the basis of a bodily legal requirement [an externally imposed command concerning His physical ancestry], but on the basis of the power of an endless and indestructible Life.

   17For it is witnessed of Him, You are a Priest forever after the order (with the rank) of Melchizedek.(B)

   18So a previous physical regulation and command is cancelled because of its weakness and ineffectiveness and uselessness--

   19For the Law never made anything perfect--but instead a better hope is introduced through which we [now] come close to God.

   20And it was not without the taking of an oath [that Christ was made Priest],

   21For those who formerly became priests received their office without its being confirmed by the taking of an oath by God, but this One was designated and addressed and saluted with an oath, The Lord has sworn and will not regret it or change His mind, You are a Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.(C)

   22In keeping with [the oath's greater strength and force], Jesus has become the Guarantee of a better (stronger) agreement [a more excellent and more advantageous covenant].

   23[Again, the former successive line of priests] was made up of many, because they were each prevented by death from continuing [perpetually in office];

   24But He holds His priesthood unchangeably, because He lives on forever.

   25Therefore He is able also to save to the uttermost (completely, perfectly, finally, and for all time and eternity) those who come to God through Him, since He is always living to make petition to God and intercede with Him and intervene for them.

   26[Here is] the High Priest [perfectly adapted] to our needs, as was fitting--holy, blameless, unstained by sin, separated from sinners, and exalted higher than the heavens.

   27He has no day by day necessity, as [do each of these other] high priests, to offer sacrifice first of all for his own [personal] sins and then for those of the people, because He [met all the requirements] once for all when He brought Himself [as a sacrifice] which He offered up.

   28For the Law sets up men in their weakness [frail, sinful, dying human beings] as high priests, but the word of [God's] oath, which [was spoken later] after the institution of the Law, [chooses and appoints as priest One Whose appointment is complete and permanent], a Son Who has been made perfect forever.

Galatians 3:14 also states that we are seeds of Abraham so guys just relax, afterall God is bigger than ur 10 percent
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Enigma(m): 1:25pm On Jan 19, 2010
DGI-PLUS:

I believe that life is by choice, you can still choose to give your first fruit to God (Apstl Paul taught that those who don't do somethings should not condemn those who do). Since you can't see God, you do it thru your own trusted Pastors. All firstfruits belong to God (Including your first son, he must serve God). Thank you.

The bolded part of the quote is not necessarily true and it is one of the reasons why our people are easily fooled by all these 419 pastors; in fact it can often lead to doing the opposite of what Jesus and the apostles taught e.g.:

(a) Matthew 25:38-40
"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

(b) James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.


Instead of doing the things taught by Jesus and the apostles, our people prefer to follow superstition thinking it will help them to get "prosperity" when all that tends to happen is that they themselves end up being defrauded by 419 pastors.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by beknown(m): 1:26pm On Jan 19, 2010
The answer is NO.

Read the Bible and understand it yourself:
http://www.biblegateway.com/

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