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Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by johnw47: 9:46am On Apr 11, 2022
sonmvayina:


The purpose is not to believe,but to learn the messages in them. Even from the story, you will notice the story is not an eye witness account.. so learn the message and move on...

you learn messages from fiction/fairy tales, so dum
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by johnw47: 9:48am On Apr 11, 2022
sonmvayina:


So those that make it real...Islam is an offshot of Christianity...so what do you expect.

you get your beliefs from the internet, so funny
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by sonmvayina(m): 9:49am On Apr 11, 2022
johnw47:


you learn messages from fiction/fairy tales, so dum


Lol..
I know your type.. it's a waste of time.

Just run along..your mate no dey here
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by sonmvayina(m): 9:50am On Apr 11, 2022
johnw47:


you get your beliefs from the internet, so funny

Nah, I did not fall from the sky.

I have a family and town I originate from. We have our laws and tradition..
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by johnw47: 9:52am On Apr 11, 2022
sonmvayina:


Until your eyes is open, till then

you antichrists are so blinded, aren't you:

I Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by sonmvayina(m): 9:52am On Apr 11, 2022
The soul is the complete system itself, with the hard Ware and soft Wae installed.
The mind is the operating system...

Another point..
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by sonmvayina(m): 9:53am On Apr 11, 2022
johnw47:


you antichrists are so blinded, aren't you:

I Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Lol..who is Paul, why should a letter he wrote to his friends in corrinth be of any importance to me??
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by johnw47: 9:54am On Apr 11, 2022
sonmvayina:


Lol..
I know your type.. it's a waste of time.

Just run along..your mate no dey here

yeah my type is putting you liars/antichrists in your place
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by johnw47: 9:58am On Apr 11, 2022
sonmvayina:


Nah, I did not fall from the sky.

I have a family and town I originate from. We have our laws and tradition..

like i said and according to you, you get your beliefs from the internet, so funny
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by johnw47: 10:02am On Apr 11, 2022
sonmvayina:


Lol..who is Paul, why should a letter he wrote to his friends in corrinth be of any importance to me??

who cares if paul is important to you or not, i reply truth to your lies and dumbness:

I Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by johnw47: 10:28am On Apr 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
The soul is the complete system itself, with the hard Ware and soft Wae installed.
The mind is the operating system...

Another point..


you are describing the soul using computer terms

oh so dum one
the complete computer system includes the operating system

the operating system is the main software of the complete computer system

a computer is not complete without it's operating system software
unless you just want to stare at the cmos

antichrist, you are just talking nonsense in your posts
but then that's to be expected of one who doesn't know God

1Jn_2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1Jn_4:3  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come


deceiver and antichrist:
2Jn_1:7  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

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Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 10:50pm On Apr 11, 2022
begoniaa:


Normally? Maybe. Maybe not. It depends. If I get comfortable around a group of people or a person, I'm always talking and cannot keep quiet. With families, friends. And, it depends on what I'm saying...this is a forum and its main purpose is the for questions requiring engagements, that'll rarely take place in real life. And it's funny too, my family from home, know me as a fast-talker, that you wouldn't even hear what I'm saying, my own roommate considers me a slow-talker, as if I pick my words the way you pick beans. grin

I wanted to dedicated this account to my writing, not a "separate identity.' So I'm not going to be creating random topics like I do on my other account on here. The anti-spam bot keeps getting me there and I'm taking a break. I'm frankly fed up of it.

I think I created this after I got my served my first ban, by an actual mod. For like 3 days or so.

Happy Sunday too.

Curiousity led me to understand that my last comment was omitted which perhaps be the reason for communicating with you since yesterday.
Nevertheless, there was a thread few days back about a man who was lamenting about the quietness of his wife. He claimed that he has never had any close discussion with his wife. She was not the talking type irrespective of how much he tried to make her be "comfortable" with him. Even sometimes he would initiate conversation hoping she would join him but it never worked out and that has made his home boring.
The usual husband-wife heart to heart talk never happened.
Among the comments that followed, the one that got my attention was that of a poster who said that that same woman would be a talker in the present of her boyfriend or lover.
Although the comment was insensitive, I kind of understood the reality in it.
From your reply about comfortability with certain acquaintances, do you think the poster maybe right about the woman ?
Do you express yourself freely in the talker kind of way (as mplied by your mom) in the presence of your boyfriend or lover, if any ?
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Magnoliaa(f): 8:58am On Apr 12, 2022
Bluezy13:
Curiousity led me to understand that my last comment was omitted which perhaps be the reason for communicating with you since yesterday.
Nevertheless, there was a thread few days back about a man who was lamenting about the quietness of his wife. He claimed that he has never had any close discussion with his wife. She was not the talking type irrespective of how much he tried to make her be "comfortable" with him. Even sometimes he would initiate conversation hoping she would join him but it never worked out and that has made his home boring.
The usual husband-wife heart to heart talk never happened.
Among the comments that followed, the one that got my attention was that of a poster who said that that same woman would be a talker in the present of her boyfriend or lover.
Although the comment was insensitive, I kind of understood the reality in it.
From your reply about comfortability with certain acquaintances, do you think the poster maybe right about the woman ?
Do you express yourself freely in the talker kind of way (as mplied by your mom) in the presence of your boyfriend or lover, if any?

Heyy, good morning.

What last comment are you referring to?

What I know about people for certain is that they express different degrees of openness and vibes and emotions, and so on with different people.

I think the poster may be right, but not in a cheating scenario as was suggested. But if she wasn't married, I would (like to) think she might be more of a talker with someone she feels and connect with and who encourages her to 'come out of her shell.' I can't not imagine being in a relationship with someone and still acting like rigid acquaintances. I feel there might be some background issues to those couple's case...people have things that excites them or make them want to go on speaking for long.

I don't have a S/O, so. smiley cheesy

But you believe there are people who naturally are quiet and 'closed in', don't you? Or you think it depends on the level of comfort as well, depending on the two people involved?
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24am On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:
What is the difference between both or they 're one and the same ??

And where is each located..

Imagine someone ran over your pet perhaps a puppy named "Skippy" and after killing your pet the killer offered to buy you another puppy perhaps much beautiful than Skippy would that solve the problem?

Well most pet owners will vehemently disagree with such idea.
But why? Isn't it all about a little dog? Can't another much adorable puppy serve as replacement for your puppy?

That's the import of the word "SOUL"
There are millions, billions of beautiful as in adorable puppies on this planet but none could replace your pet that has become like a friend over the years because there's a lot of things this dog would have known about you to the point where ordinarily snapping your finger at Skippy would drive it into action as it has understood what you meant. So getting you just another dog won't change anything!

A soul means the character as in the person not just the body, no woman can perfectly replace your wife, no child can replace yours, so when Jesus said:

And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the SOUL; rather fear him who can destroy both SOUL and body in hell. Matthew 10:28

He was talking about the body that will be buried and the character (person) meaning both will be totally forgotten in the grave! Psalms 9:17

May you have PEACE!

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Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 11:04am On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Heyy, good morning.

What last comment are you referring to?

What I know about people for certain is that they express different degrees of openness and vibes and emotions, and so on with different people.

I think the poster may be right, but not in a cheating scenario as was suggested. But if she wasn't married, I would (like to) think she might be more of a talker with someone she feels and connect with and who encourages her to 'come out of her shell.' I can't not imagine being in a relationship with someone and still acting like rigid acquaintances. I feel there might be some background issues to those couple's case...people have things that excites them or make them want to go on speaking for long.

I don't have a S/O, so. smiley cheesy

But you believe there are people who naturally are quiet and 'closed in', don't you? Or you think it depends on the level of comfort as well, depending on the two people involved?

Let me use a name, "Nwanne" as a personality.

Nwanne, a male in the family is perceived as being quiet. He discusses with neither his siblings not either of his parents. He was always in his own corner in the family, doesn't interfere with other's sensitive information and frowns inwardly when other family members intrude his personal space.
He never celebrated birthdays and disregarded any celebration at all concerning him. He was in the world of the family members but no family member was in his own world. Even when he scolded or accused wrongly, he never uttered a word.

In Secondary school, Nwanne was regarded as an introvert. He never played with others, his quietness metamorphosed into shyness or do I say there was only but a narrow line between his quietness and shyness. Nwanne never wanted to be noticed even though he was being noticed...after all, he was perceived to be brilliant and composed.
The teachers liked him but never showed it. He was good at being sensitive of other people's perceptions of himself. Any Social event would cause him to withdraw himself from the public. He was made one of the public prefects even though it was against his will initially.
But there was this friend of his...or so the friend thought because Nwanne does not understand the meaning of friendship...that he was always arguing with. They became close simply because they always argue about almost everything. Although their arguments were mainly inconclusive but Nwanne found joy in it perhaps, he thought that the friend has the reasoning power that was capable of contesting with his own. Nwanne derived joy in exploiting options on matters excluding the secular matters. This friend was Nwanne's only friend until they graduated.

This personality of his was obvious even in the streets where he grew up. His only perceived friend was his neighbor, Ayi.
Ayi would always force him out of the house to go play football. Hence they became close...if at all they were really close. Ayi would always invite Nwanne to his family house and nwanne would go but still his presence would not be felt due to his quietness.
Simply put, Nwanne existed like he never existed.

In the university, nwanne didn't change. But irrespective of his introvertive nature, Nwanne was give a unanimous appointment of a course rep of a course with different units. It was technically huge for a person like Nwanne. He was forced to feign the extrovert personality because he saw that it was a necessity for the execution of his role... Note that he "feigned" it. Irrespective of that, a closer look would reveal his quiet nature as attested by those who knew his original self. But still he was regarded as a talker by anyone who derived pleasure in intellectual constructive arguments of any sort. He was good at it.
During his service year, Nwanne was made his lodge head, the Community Development Services president, and eventually the CLO all almost at the same time. These were positions that required individuals of social vibe and leadership, but Nwanne was an introvert naturally. Yet, like a chameleon, he fit in.
These are some instances about Nwanne's life.

At present, when you pass by Nwanne, you wouldn't even realize you pass by someone. He doesn't even know his nextdoor neighbour's name even after living with them for years...not that it is separate apartments. He has no friends and neither a friend nor a family member has visited Nwanne since he moved on his own.

Taking some excerpt from Nwanne's personality.
(1) Nwanne is naturally closed in. He only tend to feign open in order not to be perceived as being incompetent. And this skill requires a high level of self consciousness.
(2) Nwanne's quietness depends on not the people he met but what the people he met has to offer. This means that he may meet someone that he normally wouldn't have anything to do with, no connection, but once the person presents an argument, Nwanne automatically becomes more of a talker. And after the argument is settled, friendship may end, he retracts to his she'll (like the case of his "argument friend"wink, after all, he was never sentimental, nor seek extra closeness.
Note: Nwanne is not an ambivert.

But if Nwanne's quietness depended on the personalities/social condition he met, he would be an ambivert.
I hope you understand the narrow line between natural quietness and conditional quietness I try to point out using Nwanne.
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Magnoliaa(f): 11:09am On Apr 12, 2022
Bluezy13:
Let me use a name, "Nwanne" as a personality.

That was like a whole ass psychology class, LMAO. grin grin cheesy

So in a nutshell, the person in question is you?

And even though you're quiet, it's still dependent to some extent on what the person you're relating with has to offer like you said here [Nwanne's quietness depends on not the people he met but what the people he met has to offer]?
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Magnoliaa(f): 6:07pm On Apr 12, 2022
Bluezy13:
Let me use a name, "Nwanne" as a personality.

Hey, I don't know if you got my mention earlier. Just making sure to let you know. I modified a previous post.
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 6:46pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


That was like a whole ass psychology class, LMAO. grin grin cheesy

So in a nutshell, the person in question is you?

And even though you're quiet, it's still dependent to some extent on what the person you're relating with has to offer like you said here [Nwanne's quietness depends on not the people he met but what the people he met has to offer]?

Actually, yes.
Now if this is the case, then I suppose the woman was not comfortable with the husband. Otherwise, at least there should be something interesting to discuss with the husband.
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 6:48pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Hey, I don't know if you got my mention earlier. Just making sure to let you know. I modified a previous post.
Okay, let me check...
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Magnoliaa(f): 6:51pm On Apr 12, 2022
Bluezy13:


Actually, yes.
Now if this is the case, then I suppose the woman was not comfortable with the husband. Otherwise, at least there should be something interesting to discuss with the husband.

Yes, I agree. It doesn't even have to be some deep, intimate, soul-to-soul conversation like that. Business, friends, family, neighbours and street matter, politics and all, throwback memories? Haha now. There should be something in all of those for them to discuss even if they've lost the spark and have simply remained ceremonial couples. Those ones don't even strike me as being ceremonial...
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Magnoliaa(f): 6:52pm On Apr 12, 2022
Bluezy13:
Okay, let me check...

Don't worry. You've responded to the mention I was referring to...
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 6:55pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Don't worry. You've responded to the mention I was referring to...

Okay Ma.

How did you spend the day ?
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Magnoliaa(f): 6:59pm On Apr 12, 2022
Bluezy13:
Okay Ma.

How did you spend the day ?

Yes, sir.

I spent the day doing nothing. Just eating, watching movies and being troublesome on Nairaland. smiley
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by redeemedbyjesus: 7:09pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:
What is the difference between both or they 're one and the same ??

And where is each located..

This is the equation

SOUL=MIND+WILL+EMOTION

Soul is that part of human that gives unique identity before God as spirit beings. It's the real you that exist forever. It serves as mediator between the spirit and body

Mind is just a component of the soul that serves as software to the brain and the sense organs. It's divided into three
Conscious, subconscious and unconscious.

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Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 7:17pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Yes, sir.

I spent the day doing nothing. Just eating, watching movies and being troublesome on Nairaland. smiley

Troublesome with other females... cheesy

Courtesy of the strike, I suppose ?
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Kriss216: 7:22pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Yes, sir.

I spent the day doing nothing. Just eating, watching movies and being troublesome on Nairaland. smiley
That's your trademark. No surprises.

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Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 7:22pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Yes, I agree. It doesn't even have to be some deep, intimate, soul-to-soul conversation like that. Business, friends, family, neighbours and street matter, politics and all, throwback memories? Haha now. There should be something in all of those for them to discuss even if they've lost the spark and have simply remained ceremonial couples. Those ones don't even strike me as being ceremonial...
...at all.
Would be so boring.

Reason I kind of would want a noisemaker for a partner... whatever partnership. At least he/she will be a cover-up to me.

What about you, would you want a quiet person, a jolly fellow or an intermediary ??
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Magnoliaa(f): 7:33pm On Apr 12, 2022
Bluezy13:
...at all.
Would be so boring.

Reason I kind of would want a noisemaker for a partner... whatever partnership. At least he/she will be a cover-up to me.

What about you, would you want a quiet person, a jolly fellow or an intermediary ??

Lol. cheesy Someone in between. But I DO LOVE bubbly people as friends. I love, love, loveeeee them. I like being friends with extroverts.

They compliment me. They are always bursting with 'gists' and stories. That's life. But I don't see myself being with a completely, 100% jolly person. Nahhhh. I don't want that energy in a partner, not that I have anything against it...

But- but then... I can't say this with certainty. Attraction for me always precede the qualities I want. I said precede, not overshadow or override. So even if I find someone who is spec and is everything I want AND extroverted? Of course, I wouldn't mind being with them. In whatever career, from whatever tribe, any goals they have...

So I can say now that I would want a partner in-between, 'things' can change.

There's a friend I have who's on the other divide and even though I like him a teeny bit, he's SO closed off. And I'm just trying to understand that it is his personality. And just who he is... if as friends, I'm not okay with the whole wall about him, I don't think I can deal with that in a relationship. Sighs.

So I just try, and I'm making myself judge him by his ACTIONS to me, not what he says or do not share with me. And he scores higher on that.

So I'll say a person in-between for now.
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Magnoliaa(f): 7:41pm On Apr 12, 2022
Bluezy13:
Troublesome with other females... cheesy

Courtesy of the strike, I suppose?

Not other females, lol. Just me alone. Arguing with people.

My school ain't part of ASUU no more so I'm just waiting for exams ATP. smiley You didn't even ask if I'm a student or I'm on a leave or something first...
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 11:01pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Not other females, lol. Just me alone. Arguing with people.

My school ain't part of ASUU no more so I'm just waiting for exams ATP. smiley You didn't even ask if I'm a student or I'm on a leave or something first...

I had to guess from the beginning of your writings that you were a student. I may be wrong though and I need your consent...
Do tell me smiley

By the way, I suppose I kept you waiting...
Went to view a football match.
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by Bluezy13(m): 11:08pm On Apr 12, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Lol. cheesy Someone in between. But I DO LOVE bubbly people as friends. I love, love, loveeeee them. I like being friends with extroverts.

They compliment me. They are always bursting with 'gists' and stories. That's life. But I don't see myself being with a completely, 100% jolly person. Nahhhh. I don't want that energy in a partner, not that I have anything against it...

But- but then... I can't say this with certainty. Attraction for me always precede the qualities I want. I said precede, not overshadow or override. So even if I find someone who is spec and is everything I want AND extroverted? Of course, I wouldn't mind being with them. In whatever career, from whatever tribe, any goals they have...

So I can say now that I would want a partner in-between, 'things' can change.

There's a friend I have who's on the other divide and even though I like him a teeny bit, he's SO closed off. And I'm just trying to understand that it is his personality. And just who he is... if as friends, I'm not okay with the whole wall about him, I don't think I can deal with that in a relationship. Sighs.

So I just try, and I'm making myself judge him by his ACTIONS to me, not what he says or do not share with me. And he scores higher on that.

So I'll say a person in-between for now.
Here is your openness at play again. It appears my description of your character from our begining was veraciously above average.

I pray he keeps scoring higher because some friends are not easy to come by these days.
Re: Does The Soul Differs From The Mind? by jornwhite: 7:42am On Apr 13, 2022
Magnoliaa:


Not other females, lol. Just me alone. Arguing with people.

My school ain't part of ASUU no more so I'm just waiting for exams ATP. : You didn't even ask if I'm a student or I'm on a leave or something first...

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