The modern approach of the Catholic Church is to emphasize great love and respect for the Scriptures. Present day Catholics want people to believe that the Catholic Church has faith in the Bible, is the church of the Bible, and encourages its members to read and study the Bible. However, when Catholics try to disprove the Bible as the only authority in religion, their true attitude toward the Bible is revealed. The Catholic Church opposes the Bible as the sole guide and standard in religion and whenever it tries to
disprove it as such, its true attitude toward it is manifested. Accordingly, the Catholic Church makes the following accusations against the Bible:

Not intended to be written.

Not intended to be circulated.

Not intended to be gathered into one volume.

Not accessible to all.

Does not contain all truth.

Not understandable.

Not a safe method.

Is a dead letter.

Does more harm than good.

Please click on the link below to see an excellent, impartial examination of the claims of the catholic church concerning the Bible.

www.bible.ca/cath-bible-attitude-towards.htm

Cc: Ubenedictus, easymancfc, analice107

I laugh u in latin
1, bible was compiled by the early Christians who laid the Catholic foundation
2, same catholics brought the Bible to u and i
3, they contributed more to education which means more access to Bible
4, the Bible is the truth but other books contains truth also
Your other points are personal views and sounds silly.
The Catholic Church just like other churches has doctrines but the obsession with Catholic Church is amazing. Yet you ppl that critize the church wouldnt mind being naked and eating grass cos pastors ask you to do so and you will claim you are on the right track. Peace

DoctorAlien:
Please click on the link below to see an excellent, impartial examination of the claims of the catholic church concerning the Bible.

www.bible.ca/cath-bible-attitude-towards.htm

Cc: Ubenedictus, easymancfc, analice107

Like I said earlier.. thats not the topic of the thread.. face that.. you can open a separate thread for that if you want.. one issue at a time... Besides the Catholic church is not on trial here.. Adventist Soul sleep belief is..... Sorry .. wrong thread

easymancfc:


Like I said earlier.. thats not the topic of the thread.. face that.. you can open a separate thread for that if you want.. one issue at a time... Besides the Catholic church is not on trial here.. Adventist Soul sleep belief is..... Sorry .. wrong thread

(Taps him) Wake up bro :-D You're in a whole new thread. So, face the truth contained in the article and tell us what you have to say about "Catholicism's shocking attitude towards the Bible".

DoctorAlien:


(Taps him) Wake up bro :-D You're in a whole new thread. So, face the truth contained in the article and tell us what you have to say about "Catholicism's shocking attitude towards the Bible".

Yeah.. jus saw it.. going through it..

chynie:

I laugh u in latin

Laugh in Latin, friend. The attitude of the Latin-speaking man towards the Bible calls for a very good laugh.

DoctorAlien:


Laugh in Latin, friend. The attitude of the Latin-speaking man towards the Bible calls for a very good laugh.

No is your attitude I laugh at.
The Catholic Church has it hq at Rome doesn't make it Latin man church.
Or will you say RCCG and winners Are Yoruba speaking man church?

just scanned through.. as time permits all of those will be refuted one after the other.. it's very wordy.. I have to cross check the references but rest assured.. The Church holds the bible in high esteem as the written word of God.. but she doesn't believe that only the bible is needed... She believes in the teaching authority of Church also... and Oral Apostolic traditions...

chynie:
No is your attitude I laugh at. The Catholic Church has it hq at Rome doesn't make it Latin man church. Or will you say RCCG and winners Are Yoruba speaking man church?

Why don't you click on that link?

easymancfc:
just scanned through.. as time permits all of those will be refuted one after the other.. it's very wordy.. I have to cross check the references but rest assured.. The Church holds the bible in high esteem as the written word of God.. but she doesn't believe that only the bible is needed... She believes in the teaching authority of Church also... and Oral Apostolic traditions...

I know you're shocked at the real attitude of your church towards the Bible as it is clearly set forth in the article.

Waiting for your refutations.

DoctorAlien:


I know you're shocked at the real attitude of your church towards the Bible as it is clearly set forth in the article.

Waiting for your refutations.

Shocked indeed!! I have seen most of those arguments... interesting approach though

DoctorAlien:


Why don't you click on that link?

No you are looking for traffic sorry
Copy and paste it here if you really want to pass a message
Cos I took what you wrote as a summary of the information in the link

chynie:

No you are looking for traffic sorry
Copy and paste it here if you really want to pass a message
Cos I took what you wrote as a summary of the information in the link

LOL, I'm not the owner of the site. Parting with some kilobites of data won't kill you. You need to see the content of that article.

DoctorAlien:


LOL, I'm not the owner of the site. Parting with some kilobites of data won't kill you. You need to see the content of that article.

Believe all u read on the internet at our Peril

chynie:
Believe all u read on the internet at our Peril

But believe all that the Revd. father or Pope says to your own salvation, right?

DoctorAlien:


But believe all that the Revd. father or Pope says to your own salvation, right?

No catholics are not shepples,
is u ppl that can do anything your GOS or daddies or pastors or prophets tells u

chynie:

I laugh u in latin
1, bible was compiled by the early Christians who laid the Catholic foundation
2, same catholics brought the Bible to u and i
3, they contributed more to education which means more access to Bible
4, the Bible is the truth but other books contains truth also
Your other points are personal views and sounds silly.
The Catholic Church just like other churches has doctrines but the obsession with Catholic Church is amazing. Yet you ppl that critize the church wouldnt mind being naked and eating grass cos pastors ask you to do so and you will claim you are on the right track. Peace

Chynie did you say the early Christians laid the Catholic foundation? Early Christians like Paul, Peter, John, James, etc laid the Catholic foundation of praying through Mary, And worshipping God through idols? Or are you just high on apostasy!

An2elect2:
Chynie did you say the early Christians laid the Catholic foundation? Early Christians like Paul, Peter, John, James, etc laid the Catholic foundation of praying through Mary, And worshipping God through idols? Or are you just high on apostasy!

Are they the only early christians u know
While there are Christians after them before us.
And nobody prays through Mary.

chynie:

Are they the only early christians u know
While there are Christians after them before us.
And nobody prays through Mary.

aahh but they were the ones who received the gospel directly from the master, should we "jump and pass" them? Who no like original? Abeg yarn another thing jare

An2elect2:
aahh but they were the ones who received the gospel directly from the master, should we "jump and pass" them? Who no like original? Abeg yarn another thing jare

No u got it wrong ,sorry but
U can get original cos of the time u were born, Paul, Peter etc can't pass it down to u or your pastor or me cos we were born when they were died.
But ppl met Peter, Paul and others alive, and it got passed to them, the cycle continues until it to us.
I hope u understand now

chynie:

No u got it wrong ,sorry but
U can get original cos of the time u were born, Paul, Peter etc can't pass it down to u or your pastor or me cos we were born when they were died.
But ppl met Peter, Paul and others alive, and it got passed to them, the cycle continues until it to us.
I hope u understand now

So the Bible isn't in its original form anymore. Oh I got it! Paul, Peter preached about making images, Mary and praying to dead saints but someone along the line erased those stuffs and left only stuffs about Jesus. So remind me the name of the Pope that ordered for such a cretin's head?

DoctorAlien:
Please click on the link below to see an excellent, impartial examination of the claims of the catholic church concerning the Bible.

www.bible.ca/cath-bible-attitude-towards.htm

Cc: Ubenedictus, easymancfc, analice107

This is what your "impartial and excellent". source has to say about your soul sleep doctrine.. which you accuse the catholic church of...

http://www.bible.ca/d-death=sleep.htm

Unless you think their impartiality starts and ends with the catholic church..

easymancfc:


This is what your "impartial and excellent". source has to say about your soul sleep doctrine.. which you accuse the catholic church of...

http://www.bible.ca/d-death=sleep.htm

Unless you think their impartiality starts and ends with the catholic church..

Bro you know this is not the thread for that. You don't break the rules. Moreover I referred to their piece on the real attitude of the Catholic church towards the Bible as "impartial and excellent", and not the site itself with all it advocates.

DoctorAlien:
The modern approach of the Catholic Church is to emphasize great love and respect for the Scriptures. Present day Catholics want people to believe that the Catholic Church has faith in the Bible, is the church of the Bible, and encourages its members to read and study the Bible. However, when Catholics try to disprove the Bible as the only authority in religion, their true attitude toward the Bible is revealed. The Catholic Church opposes the Bible as the sole guide and standard in religion and whenever it tries to
disprove it as such, its true attitude toward it is manifested. Accordingly, the Catholic Church makes the following accusations against the Bible:

Not intended to be written.

Not intended to be circulated.

Not intended to be gathered into one volume.

Not accessible to all.

Does not contain all truth.

Not understandable.

Not a safe method.

Is a dead letter.

Does more harm than good.

It's amazing how you guys come 2000 years after the event purporting to know better than those who know the truth and have the pedigree to back it up.

If I ask you to show me from scripture alone how Mark 16: 9-20 ended up been scripture, I wonder how you can.
You're probably not even aware that there have been controversies concerning these verses.

If I were to ask you how you know Mark is scripture from scripture alone, I wonder if you can.

If I were to ask you how the early Christians knew and practised their faith given than the books of the NT weren't written until decades after the event, I wonder ...

The fact is even the process that brought the bible into existence was based on sacred tradition and an authority to confirm that sacred tradition. So 2000years later OP comes up with his nairaland post and we're supposed to believe.

By the way your so called Catholic Church accusations against the bible are absolutely false.

I'll suggest you do more research bro.

I'm sha not surprised.

But The Nigerian Catholic is slightly different. They seem to have caught something... Holy ghost illumination.

Even though that's true of the church's hierarchy, the Nigerian church will disagree on several of those beliefs.

DoctorAlien:


Bro you know this is not the thread for that. You don't break the rules. Moreover I referred to their piece on the real attitude of the Catholic church towards the Bible as "impartial and excellent", and not the site itself with all it advocates.

So the site is not impartial and excellent.. only its view on the Catholic church is
but its view on your doctrine is wrong

btoks, why don't you click on the link and read it for yourself? To validate its arguments, the article quotes only catholic books with have been given the "nihil obstat" and "imprimatur" pronouncements. Only prove that the quotes are not from catholic sources.

chynie:

I laugh u in latin
1, bible was compiled by the early Christians who laid the Catholic foundation
2, same catholics brought the Bible to u and i
3, they contributed more to education which means more access to Bible
4, the Bible is the truth but other books contains truth also
Your other points are personal views and sounds silly.
The Catholic Church just like other churches has doctrines but the obsession with Catholic Church is amazing. Yet you ppl that critize the church wouldnt mind being naked and eating grass cos pastors ask you to do so and you will claim you are on the right track. Peace

chynie:
same catholics brought the Bible to u and i

Pls, can you tell us the Century the Bible got to Rome. Oh, what i mean is, when the Roman Catholicism was established as a state religion in Rome.

Pls for how many Centuries was the Bible locked up in Rome away from the reach of even some Priests?

Are you sure the Catholic Church intended for the entire human race to handle a Bible for themselves and see what it said about them personally?

Why then was the Bible hidden for Centuries until some Priests began secretly translating it into the languages of their people with the hope of them understanding it?

Do you know how many Bibles the Mother Church burnt together with those who translated them into different languages? would you say that was an attitude of a Church which wanted the Bible taken to People?

Was Christianity meant to remain in Rome? Why then did Catholicism held it down in Rome for Centuries until the Reformation broke through?

Are you sure Catholicism would have allowed Christianity to be a Creed of Liberty if the Reformers didn't make the move seriously paying with their own blood? Have you watched this movie " Juan of Arc?" you should watch it and see what Catholicism meant or intended for humanity.

You all blame King Henry the 8th for breaking out and starting The Anglican Communion, but, have you found time to know what led to that?

He was given a Bible which he read for himself, he saw what the Pope had always told him through the Bishop to be lies, lies and more lies. He saw he didn't have to pay the Papal indulgence to ascertain his redemption. He saw he didn't have to marry his late brothers wife if he didn't want to, contrary to what the Catholic Church wanted him to believe.

He saw he had the liberty to choose for himself whether or not to obey God.

Let me ask you this sir.

From when Catholicism began, to when the Reformation broke out, how many years were they?

From When The Reformation started to When the Catholic Church saw the need to spread to our African Continent, how many years was it?

Sir, if you believe Catholicism brought you the Bible, then you just believed a lie. But for the Reformation, the Bible would've remained locked up in an extinct Latin language, and inside some old cupboards only to be read to you by those who feel they have the right to control you by telling you only what they want you to hear and know.

The Catholic Church works against Christ. Jesus says, take the Good News to the Ends of the Earth, the Catholic Church wanted it locked up in Rome.

chynie:
4, the Bible is the truth but other books contains truth also

With this, The Catholic Church just affirms that it's stance is not consistent with what He whom they claim to follow commands.

Jesus says in Revelation 22:19 ...

Good News Translation Revelation 22:19 And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book.

The Catholic Church added these other books to enable them practice paganism.

Cc. UnchangeableGod

donnie:


I'm sha not surprised.

But The Nigerian Catholic is slightly different. They seem to have caught something... Holy ghost illumination.

Even though that's true of the church's hierarchy, the Nigerian church will disagree on several of those beliefs.

surprised about what? what holyghost illumination have they caught up with? what is true of the church's hierarchy? and what will the Nigerian church disagree with?

analice107:



Pls, can you tell us the Century the Bible got to Rome. Oh, what i mean is, when the Roman Catholicism was established as a state religion in Rome.

Pls for how many Centuries was the Bible locked up in Rome away from the reach of even some Priests?

Are you sure the Catholic Church intended for the entire human race to handle a Bible for themselves and see what it said about them personally?

Why then was the Bible hidden for Centuries until some Priests began secretly translating it into the languages of their people with the hope of them understanding it?

Do you know how many Bibles the Mother Church burnt together with those who translated them into different languages? would you say that was an attitude of a Church which wanted the Bible taken to People?

Was Christianity meant to remain in Rome? Why then did Catholicism held it down in Rome for Centuries until the Reformation broke through?

Are you sure Catholicism would have allowed Christianity to be a Creed of Liberty if the Reformers didn't make the move seriously paying with their own blood? Have you watched this movie " Juan of Arc?" you should watch it and see what Catholicism meant or intended for humanity.

You all blame King Henry the 8th for breaking out and starting The Anglican Communion, but, have you found time to know what led to that?

He was given a Bible which he read for himself, he saw what the Pope had always told him through the Bishop to be lies, lies and more lies. He saw he didn't have to pay the Papal indulgence to ascertain his redemption. He saw he didn't have to marry his late brothers wife if he didn't want to, contrary to what the Catholic Church wanted him to believe.

He saw he had the liberty to choose for himself whether or not to obey God.

Let me ask you this sir.

From when Catholicism began, to when the Reformation broke out, how many years were they?

From When The Reformation started to When the Catholic Church saw the need to spread to our African Continent, how many years was it?

Sir, if you believe Catholicism brought you the Bible, then you just believed a lie. But for the Reformation, the Bible would've remained locked up in an extinct Latin language, and inside some old cupboards only to be read to you by those who feel they have the right to control you by telling you only what they want you to hear and know.

The Catholic Church works against Christ. Jesus says, take the Good News to the Ends of the Earth, the Catholic Church wanted it locked up in Rome.


With this, The Catholic Church just affirms that it's stance is not consistent with what He whom they claim to follow commands.

Jesus says in Revelation 22:19 ...

Good News Translation Revelation 22:19 And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book.

The Catholic Church added these other books to enable them practice paganism.

Cc. UnchangeableGod

As much as I would like to make this brief, but let me clear some facts
king henry left catholic church, cos the church wouldn't support his bid to marry a second wife.
As for your movie u watched, df ppl tell same story differently.
please if I may ask, who were the first missionaries to visit our side by history, cos mine were catholics
Now if that is not an act of evangelism then I don't know what we should call that.
And for the verse of add/removing from the scripture lol
please the bible wasn't compiled by the apostles, the apostles wrote epistles in Hebrew and greeks to the df persons/community churches that were in existence.
I will advise u go through those new additions and pick out verses or chapters u will contradict the mission of Christ.

chynie:

No, King Henry left Catholicism for a number of reasons, which one was the Church trying to tie him down to Marrying Catherine, his late brother's wife. how old was Henry wen the Pope wanted him to Marry Catherine? and how old was she? Catherine was already older than the late husband who married her. Catherine was already an old woman before she married and as at when Henry was to marry her, he was about 12.

And, Marrying Catherine was a way of tying him down and controlled by Rome.

Why won't a young boy be allowed to take his own queen and enjoy his youth with his contemporary?

[quote author=chynie post=59841588]
As for your movie u watched, df ppl tell same story differently.

Have you seen the movie?

chynie:

please if I may ask, who were the first missionaries to visit our side by history, cos mine were catholics
Now if that is not an act of evangelism then I don't know what we should call that.

Get your facts right.
The Catholic Portuguese weren't missionaries, they came here for trade not gospel. the missionaries came after the Portuguese has left.

chynie:

please the bible wasn't compiled by the apostles, the apostles wrote epistles in Hebrew and greeks to the df persons/community churches that were in existence.

it really bits me how intelligent people go dumb when it comes to spirituality. Writing and Compilation, which comes first? and which is more important?

You now give the Catholic church credence for assembling books that were written by better men long before them.
Nwa nè, biko

chynie:

And for the verse of add/removing from the scripture lol

This is the attitude of the Catholic Church towards the Bible the Op is about. You can laugh becos the authority of the Bible is not binding on you.