bloodofthelamb:
CHRIST JESUS IS PART OF GOD AND THEY ARE ONE...DISHONOURING JESUS IS DISHONOURING JEHOVAH....WORSHIPING JESUS CHRIST IS WORSHIPING JEHOVAH...ACCEPTING JESUS IS ACCEPTING JEHOVAH AND SO ON AND SO FORTH...THROWING STONE AT JESUS IS THROWING STONE AT JEHOVAH...PEACE

If Jesus was part of God, and they are one why did He say 'The Father is
greater than I' in John 15:1?

Lihyunpark:


If Jesus was part of God, and they are one why did He say 'The Father is
greater than I' in John 15:1?

THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN CHRIST JESUS IN RANK AND NOT IN NATURE...JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE VINE, THE BRANCH...THE VINE AND THE BRANCH IS ONE, BUT CLEARLY THE VINE IS GREATER IN RANK...THE BRANCH SHARE IN ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE VINE

bloodofthelamb:
THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN CHRIST JESUS IN RANK AND NOT IN NATURE...JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE VINE, THE BRANCH...THE VINE AND THE BRANCH IS ONE, BUT CLEARLY THE VINE IS GREATER IN RANK...THE BRANCH SHARE IN ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE VINE

lol.....rank and nature? Very funny im seeing this for the first time..what do u mean by rank...God is number 1 and jesus number 2? and what do u mean by nature? Please englighten me

Lihyunpark:
please im a new convert and i have a problem ever since i converted i dont know which church to go..seventh day adventist will tell me not to go to celestia and cherubim will advice me not to go to CAC and so on...which church should i start goin...?

Catholic is good sha!

nwokoyepraise:
Catholic is good sha!

they worship holy mary mother of christ?

Lihyunpark:


lol.....rank and nature? Very funny im seeing this for the first time..what do u mean by rank...God is number 1 and jesus number 2? and what do u mean by nature? Please englighten me

FUNNY YOU! I EXPLAIN AND YOU ARE STILL ASKING ME TO REPEAT MYSELF AGAIN...GO AND STUDY ARTWORK OF GOD...GOD IS THE HEAD OF CHRIST, WHY CHRIST IS THE OF THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM AND WE ARE ALL ONE

bloodofthelamb:
FUNNY YOU! I EXPLAIN AND YOU ARE STILL ASKING ME TO REPEAT MYSELF AGAIN...GO AND STUDY ARTWORK OF GOD...GOD IS THE HEAD OF CHRIST, WHY CHRIST IS THE OF THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM AND WE ARE ALL ONE

your explanation is illogical..maybe u should take time and study ur bible thoroughly

Lihyunpark:


they worship holy mary mother of christ?

It is not that you bow downed to something or somebody makes it to be worship. Worship comes From the heart, I. e if when you are asked, you will say clearly that this is my god, but I doubt that any Catholic will say that Mary is his/her god. Note, i can bow down before you but I don't take you as my god

rossyc:

Hehehe... Bros calm down na....Ph...St Jude's Catholic church.

Lolz... My blood dey hot ooo.... Wow, I'm in PH too. I attend Mater Mesiricodae around First Bank Junction.

Where's this St. Jude Catholic Church located?

Lihyunpark:


your explanation is illogical..maybe u should take time and study ur bible thoroughly

WHEN DID SPIRITUAL THINGS START BECOMING LOGICAL?...THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT IS FOOLISHNESS TO THE CANAL/NATURAL MIND.

Certified007:
am, attending the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saint.... the only true church upon the surface of the earth

yeah, we are the mormonites...

Neduzze5:


Lolz... My blood dey hot ooo.... Wow, I'm in PH too. I attend Mater Mesiricodae around First Bank Junction.

Where's this St. Jude Catholic Church located?

Oh that's cool I know Mater. It's at Rumuokoro.

uzoclinton:
I can never change from Anglican... It has bin ingrained in my DNA

Correct guy
Anglican is total.....we are Orthodox, Charismatic, Pentecostal, Apostolic and modern
Not to mention our hymns that most churches have stolen

Proud Anglican

tyson98:

Then you don't know why you are going to church if for routine's sake,nothing will make me leave Catholic church

It's human nature to get tired of repetitions, fortunately, I've admitted the truth and you have not.
I can literally say the Mass from beginning to end due to my experience as an Alter server, almost every year the same readings and Saint feasts. And honestly some teachings are just contradictory, for example - Yesterday, my Priest was just hammering on confession, that if you don't go for confession, it means you haven't had a spiritual bath, so you are smelling before God. Why is he underestimating the forgiving power of God? Did God tell him or the Pope that we must confess our sins via them to God before we are forgiven? Besides what's now the use of that I confess to Almighty God, and to you my brothers and sisters prayer? Are they saying the pray is useless?

homesteady:


It's human nature to get tired of repetitions, fortunately, I've admitted the truth and you have not.
I can literally say the Mass from beginning to end due to my experience as an Alter server, almost every year the same readings and Saint feasts. And honestly some teachings are just contradictory, for example - Yesterday, my Priest was just hammering on confession, that if you don't go for confession, it means you haven't had a spiritual bath, so you are smelling before God. Why is he underestimating the forgiving power of God? Did God tell him or the Pope that we must confess our sins via them to God before we are forgiven? Besides what's now the use of that I confess to Almighty God, and to you my brothers and sisters prayer? Are they saying the pray is useless?

You don't truly understand the significance and importance of going to confession. Besides remember that God told his apostles that whomsoever sin you forgive, it has been forgiven and whomsoever son you retain, it shall be retained.

nwokoyepraise:

You don't truly understand the significance and importance of going to confession. Besides remember that God told his apostles that whomsoever sin you forgive, it has been forgiven and whomsoever son you retain, it shall be retained.

There are a thousand other verses about asking God for forgiveness! Besides I'm not arguing about the efficacy of confession! I'm just saying they are undermining God's forgiveness with such sermons,because even logically it doesn't make any sense. Can you with a straight face boldly say God doesn't forgive Non-Catholics because they don't go for confession?

homesteady:


It's human nature to get tired of repetitions, fortunately, I've admitted the truth and you have not.
I can literally say the Mass from beginning to end due to my experience as an Alter server, almost every year the same readings and Saint feasts. And honestly some teachings are just contradictory, for example - Yesterday, my Priest was just hammering on confession, that if you don't go for confession, it means you haven't had a spiritual bath, so you are smelling before God. Why is he underestimating the forgiving power of God? Did God tell him or the Pope that we must confess our sins via them to God before we are forgiven? Besides what's now the use of that I confess to Almighty God, and to you my brothers and sisters prayer? Are they saying the pray is useless?

I understand this and that's why some ammendment are being worked on in the Catholic church,I can't just change my church

Is it not the pastors we see in dilemmas everywhere Msschew I will rather stick to the known than the unknown

rossyc:

Oh that's cool I know Mater. It's at Rumuokoro.

Oh yeah, that's true. I know St. Jude. I've been there just once, early this year for a wedding.

You stay at Rumuokoro?

Neduzze5:


Oh yeah, that's true. I know St. Jude. I've been there just once, early this year for a wedding.

You stay at Rumuokoro?

Aiite.. Nope

gemale:

The word of God is evergreen. As long as it is the word of God & not the words of flesh, the world or the devil, it is bound to produce fruits if it's applied correctly; see hebrews 4:12. If the word of God isnt feeding 1 spiritually, something is wrong not with the word but the person receiving the word. Remember the parable of the sower Jesus told? The quality of the word of God is unquestionable. It is all good seed (2 timothy 3:16)yet not all of them yielded harvest. The seed that was eaten by birds was of the same quality & pedigree with the seeds that produced a 100 fold harvest. What was the difference? The soil (which Jesus later explained represented the hearts of men). If a man's heart falls into the category of rocky, weed-infested or pathway soils, the word of God can never be truly fruitful. No matter how many churches 1 changes, it would never solve the case of a wrong heart. Allowing the Holy Spirit have His way is a personal decision. The day most of us realize that the greatest enemy we have to win in the battle of the Spirit is ourselves & not external forces, our walk with God would greatly improve.

The word of God is ever green, it will produce result anytime any day but the difference is always in the conveying vessel..... If the preacher is shallow and have a casual relationship with the source of power and anointing, the holy spirit, the word though in itself powerful will not yield result.

Two people can preach the same topic to the same congregation but obtain different outcome. In normal university environment, there is always a lecturer that is a delight to listen and learn easily from ... Aguolu taught me taxation and auditing in UNEC and made it a meal for everyone ....one will have result while the other will only pass on information..... Therefore, The impart of the word is a function of the vessel.

The disciples went out and tried deliverance it didn't work , they returned and told the master, then he revealed the secret.... If Jesus Christ had gone out preaching before his going for forty days prayer where he returned in the power of the holy spirit he would only have been passing information without impart ...The sons of Scevas spoke the same word they learned from Jesus Christ but got not the same result he usually get in such situations.

The disciples having been with Jesus Christ for three years and half of his ministry could have launched out immediately after his death but Jesus Christ knew that they only had information without power for result and instructed them to wait in Jerusalem until power be released on them from above and that happened on what we now refer to as Pentecost day.

I was in a similar situation like the person. Mass was always boring .... Then a Rev father Ozele started ,streams of love, where he taught the word with power , opposition came from within , he was pursued from PTI conference center, the venue he hires for the events on Sundays to College of education auditorium and then finally he was sent out of the country to the US.

Anointing and grace is not a function of title but diligent walk with the holy spirit .... After mass, mass of Catholics troops to Ozele program though they have just closed from Sunday Mass .,,why? Spiritual Hunger persisted even after the mass.

Anointing and grace is in levels.. Anointing is not anointing. Grace is not grace ... They are in levels and so also is impartation..Jesus had the anointing..
Eze 47:1- without measure so could do as occasion served him....Sticking back a severed ear lobe without prayer.

homesteady:


There are a thousand other verses about asking God for forgiveness! Besides I'm not arguing about the efficacy of confession! I'm just saying they are undermining God's forgiveness with such sermons,because even logically it doesn't make any sense. Can you with a straight face boldly say God doesn't forgive Non-Catholics because they don't go for confession?

there are many verses about forgiveness in scripture but in the new testament and in early Christian writing the mode of obtaining this forgiveness is usually confession.



I can't tell you what God doesn't do, but I can tell you what God does. He offered confession as THE new testament means of forgiving sin and he gave that power to the apostles and their successors and this has been the practice in the Church of Christ for 2000 years.

I won't tell you what God doesn't do, but that which he has told us in scripture and in the Church for centuries that I'll do,and if I were you I would thank the priest who reminded me.



permit me to rant a little, I think the problem with Catholics is that we are often ignorant of what we have and treat them with less the value they possess. Do you think God is ignorant of the fact that many people will sit in their house and pray for forgiveness? yet after he has paid the ultimate price and won infinite merits for us he came to his apostles and gave them power to forgive sins, he gave us a sacrament for reconciliation and made his ministers stewards of his mysteries. Why not make use of this new testament gift whereby Hod clearly shows his mercy and assure you of forgiveness. sorry but you can't compare it to what the Protestants have, they simply don't have this, nor do they have the life giving Eucharist... these are the gift of the new covenant found only in the Church of Christ.

I am lost for words, I don't know how to even explain this to you. how God himself activates his covenant for us through the sacrament.

homesteady:


It's human nature to get tired of repetitions, fortunately, I've admitted the truth and you have not.
I can literally say the Mass from beginning to end due to my experience as an Alter server, almost every year the same readings and Saint feasts. And honestly some teachings are just contradictory, for example - Yesterday, my Priest was just hammering on confession, that if you don't go for confession, it means you haven't had a spiritual bath, so you are smelling before God. Why is he underestimating the forgiving power of God? Did God tell him or the Pope that we must confess our sins via them to God before we are forgiven? Besides what's now the use of that I confess to Almighty God, and to you my brothers and sisters prayer? Are they saying the pray is useless?

strangely enough if you read your Bible you will realise that God is a fan of repetitious covenantal rituals. right from the beginning when man started worshipping God,Abel is the first recorded ritualist, he built an alter and offered God a sacrifice the same ritual is performed by Noah when God made a covenant with him then Abraham when God made a covenant, then Isaac when God renews his covenant, then Jacob,... then Moses and all the Israelites each time they renewed their covenant with God they repeat rituals again and again and again... and even when Jesus came and offered the sacrifice of all sacrifices he still left us a repetitious ritual called the Eucharist, and St Paul says that as often as we REPEAT that ritual we are proclaiming that ultimate sacrifice that seals the new covenant.

if you are scared of repetition then maybe you haven't been reading the bible or maybe you should change your orientation.
2. every year is not the same reading, there are 3 different liturgical cycles and the whole Bible is covered in 3 years leaving just bit and pieces. do you know any other church that cover the Bible in 3 years.... the feast are the same because the liturgical cycle is like a spiral staircase each new cycle catapulting you to a new level in grace. it is a pity we Catholics do not see this.

3. the I confess prayer is a penitential prayer for the forgiveness of venial sin, mortal sin does get forgiven in confession. A prayer doesn't replace a sacrament. so your priest is right and there is no contradiction .

WenysAD:


Correct guy
Anglican is total.....we are Orthodox, Charismatic, Pentecostal, Apostolic and modern
Not to mention our hymns that most churches have stolen

Proud Anglican

then there is also the heretic Anglican that support gay marriage.

Themandator:



I was inside the Church on a Sunday Mass when I decided it was my last ... I knew I wanted to hear God's word that would make me want to go further in my knowledge of him but it was not there ,,,.... Homilies that didn't speak to your worries and questions. ..Could even meet with witness peeol and discuss with them .....And yet very arrogant because in block rosary thee is this brain washing that we are the only church peeps that will make heaven and other yarn


This is what is lacking that I found elsewhere ...Making the word ever green and practical


Thanksgiving service for the month September
Theme of the month …. Supernatural Breakthrough is my birthright
Teaching series for the month: Gateways to supernatural breakthroughs….Part 4
Call to service: Psalms 126:1-
Ministering: Pastor Tolu Adekoya


Life is designed for progress … Lack of progress is the reason for frustration in life….. Breakthrough is about making satisfactory progress in life …… The beauty of life is motion
Backbiters are stagnated people. The cure for backbiting is progress.
Failure makes a colourful destiny to misbehave …. The covenant of Breakthrough does not allow the past to be better than you today… You are not making progress if your yesterday is better than today ….It is anti covenant

Why Breakthrough

God is against stagnation….. Where you are is not your place of rest ….A higher place awaits you….. Micah 2:10
Destinies of people are tied to you …, You are a saviour. You can't afford to keep destiny on the floor because of you lack of breakthroughs.
It is not enough to pray for prosperity you must give to prosperity …. To have more in this kingdom you give … It is what you give out that prospers you in this kingdom not what you receive.
There is prayer seed and material seeds to sow for you to reap. Prayer clears everything around you. Prayer alone doesn't bring prosperity … If you just have Breakthrough in life there are things you must do spirituality and there are things you must do physically.

The force of love ….The first spiritual things to do is to love God ...Matt 22:36-40…. It is your life for a things that makes you a servant for that thing … If you love money you will become a servant to it and it will push you around …,.It takes love of God to be a servant of God ….And he takes pleasure in the prosperity of his servant ...Psalm 35:27 …… My service is powered by a genuine love for God…….. Don't operate like a bat..,neither a rat nor a bird

What authenticate your service to God is your life for him…… 2 Cor 2:9….. The deeper your root in the love of God the larger the advancement you command in the journey of life. …. If you love God you will love his people and his house.

You need the force of sacrifice to command Breakthrough. Doing your best is diligence but going beyond your best is sacrifice ….Taking steps without looking back. It is the initiative to go the extra mile because it is only those who do what others don't do that gets what others don't get

Successful people are ex-failures who got mad at their failure … There is no star without a scar. …. There is one thing you need to pursue for other things to pursue you….. God
Serving God out of comfort doesn't bring you anything…. You can't suffer pain in this kingdom and not live a life of comfort

Keys to the world of supernatural breakthroughs and prosperity.

Prosperity belongs to the spiritual. It is your spiritual buoyancy that determines your physical buoyancy. …. Pro 10:22 ...3 John 2 ...Exo 13:5 …. When you are spiritual alive you can hear God when he speaks to you on where to go and not go to make it … Be spiritually minded. Until you prosper spiritually you can't prosper physically. You must seek your spiritual prosperity. … ...It is called a weight of glory .. if you don't have the capacity ...God is not a killer ...He won't deliver it to you. …. If you want change of level build capacity because it serves as your foundation for your Breakthrough in life. ….What goes into you and what you do is what builds you. ...What you hear what you see is what determines your attitude per time ….You can't escape spirituality if you want to be successful.. blessings are first spiritual before they became material ….until you have the capacity to bring it you can't have it in the material world ………….Until you change gear spiritual you can't change level
Engage in covenant practice ….whatever seed you are sowing without being spiritual is a wasted seed. … Don't waste your seed ...Clean up spiritually… Go settle with that person first ...Forgive

you left a Church because a priest is dull even though he maybe teaching the truth and went for the prosperity gospel.
interesting

Themandator:



Don't be too confident about this statement. I actually had a quarrel with the first lady I would have married ....I will not tolerate her being a member of house on the rocks .... Catholic Church is it or nothing but I am a winner today and extremely grateful to God for the change

if only you knew what you had.

gemale:

I can't remember the names of the materials he gave me about the doctrines of the catholic church but the last book i was given was a true story about the conversion of a presbyterian minister to Catholicism. His name was scott & i think his wife's name was kimberly. He detailed how the Holy spirit & intense study of God's word led him & his family to the catholic church.

that book is called ROME SWEET HOME, and the author is still writing books till date. I would challenge you to get another from the same author.

chinedumo:


i guess you are refering to catholic. I would love to see those materials the priest showed you.

I think one is Rome sweet home.

Ubenedictus:
if only you knew what you had.

Please discuss ,in three paragraphs, what I had ... It is never too late to return.

Ubenedictus:



you left a Church because a priest is dull even though he maybe teaching the truth and went for the prosperity gospel.
interesting

Yes... The priest is not only dull but lacked scriptural knowledge and depth... Now what version of the gospel is the Catholic Church promoting and please while replying, help me with your last Sunday note to buttress it


Don't go online and copy already prepared homily for me ...I will know...I am America ...I will know.

Ubenedictus:
then there is also the heretic Anglican that support gay marriage.

In every disciples, there is an Iscariot, gayism is means the devil wants to use to divide the church but he has failed!!!

Ubenedictus:


strangely enough if you read your Bible you will realise that God is a fan of repetitious covenantal rituals. right from the beginning when man started worshipping God,Abel is the first recorded ritualist, he built an alter and offered God a sacrifice the same ritual is performed by Noah when God made a covenant with him then Abraham when God made a covenant, then Isaac when God renews his covenant, then Jacob,... then Moses and all the Israelites each time they renewed their covenant with God they repeat rituals again and again and again... and even when Jesus came and offered the sacrifice of all sacrifices he still left us a repetitious ritual called the Eucharist, and St Paul says that as often as we REPEAT that ritual we are proclaiming that ultimate sacrifice that seals the new covenant.

if you are scared of repetition then maybe you haven't been reading the bible or maybe you should change your orientation.
2. every year is not the same reading, there are 3 different liturgical cycles and the whole Bible is covered in 3 years leaving just bit and pieces. do you know any other church that cover the Bible in 3 years.... the feast are the same because the liturgical cycle is like a spiral staircase each new cycle catapulting you to a new level in grace. it is a pity we Catholics do not see this.

3. the I confess prayer is a penitential prayer for the forgiveness of venial sin, mortal sin does get forgiven in confession. A prayer doesn't replace a sacrament. so your priest is right and there is no contradiction .

The Catholic order of mass is repetitive. It has nothing to do with the covenants you have listed to support it .... Those covenant didn't happen every day and Sundays ... They were hundreds of years apart, don't make it look like the same actors did them Everytime

Why would you sit in judgement and conclude that other churches don't complete the Bible in three years when even Christ Embassy runs programs for completing the Bible in a year..... There is no church that doesn't complete the Bible in a year


Winners runs a 12 calendar teaching topic known as the 12 pillars of the Church/ Destiny... Sanctification, Divine direction , Divine Prosperity, Divine healing, Thw word , Signs and wonders , Prayer ,the holy spirit and the rest and all they teaching before the year ends comes from the entire bible....This September that just ended is the month of supernatural Breakthrough is my birthright.....As from Sunday October first, it will be another theme


Please the bolded in your post should receive more light with scriptural backings.