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Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Beaf: 11:59pm On Mar 11, 2010
ndu_chucks:

Don't flatter yourself by comparing your terrorist activities including kidnapping of innocent foreigners, oil bunkering, and other criminal activities, to Mandela's freedom fighting activities.  You and members of your terrorist organization are nothing but thugs.

Instead of the extreme actions like fire bombs which you are advocating, in Nigeria, I submit to you that the Nigerian government can be brought to its knees by millions of peaceful protesters showing up at the national assembly and refusing to leave, mass protests in every state capital. That is what you should be trying to organize instead of the terrorism you so dearly espouse.

Abeg go and sleep jare! I trust you to compare the gargantuan crime of theft of the nations soul to freedom fighters, struggling to lift the yoke of the slavemaster.

All Nigerian demonstrators must seriously consider replacing their placards with some of these;
www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by nduchucks: 12:05am On Mar 12, 2010
Beaf:

Abeg go and sleep jare! I trust you to compare the gargantuan crime of theft of the nations soul to freedom fighters, struggling to lift the yoke of the slavemaster.

All Nigerian demonstrators must seriously consider replacing their placards with some of these;

[img]https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/242202_FN_PS-90bipod_jpg61c0ba53c279d49ef2bef75bf4131b88[/img]


Ewu terrorist. I bet you use a hunting knife instead of a toothpick, olodo rabata. cheesy cheesy
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by kosovo(m): 12:05am On Mar 12, 2010
cap28:

so nigeria's docile citizenry are part of the current problem? well, if you know this why are you advocating peaceful protest?  If our docility has enabled the nigerian elite to take us for a ride for so long - is it peaceful protest that will make them treat us with more respect?  

the fact that you are terrified of looking at the situation for what it is speaks volumes about what sort of person you are.  

the reason that you cant come up with any constructive argument to back your bogus claim that non violent protest works is for the simple reason that it doesnt work, you have not been able to name any situation anywhere in the world where peaceful protest has worked, even in so called civilised societies violence is always used in order to force the hand of govt, look at Greece which is currently in a state of economic meltdown - do you think the greeks are sitting around talking about peaceful protest - no they are revolting and in some instances they have resorted to violent protests in order to let their govt know that they will not take the current hardships that they are being subjected to lying down.
On the Greece issue. That was exactly the example i cited when i brought up this issue, it is rather unfortunate that  the engineers of 'IBB must go' have given birth to Lazy and timid children, when they are pushed to the wall, they would rather jump over the wall and keep running rather than fight to regain Justice. It is pathetic to say the least.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by SapeleGuy: 12:10am On Mar 12, 2010
The Greek protests were part of a 24 hour strike.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/03/11/greece-labour-strike.html?ref=rss

If you are advocating armed resistance that is a different kettle of fish from protests.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Beaf: 12:14am On Mar 12, 2010
ndu_chucks:

Ewu terrorist. I bet you use a hunting knife instead of a toothpick, olodo rabata. cheesy cheesy

Ok o!
I can bet you that anybody working corruptly will very smartly reeducate themselves at the sight of such protest equipment.
Dat kain tin can create Jesus out of Judas. grin
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by omofat: 12:21am On Mar 12, 2010
kosovo:

On the Greece issue. That was exactly the example i cited when i brought up this issue, it is rather unfortunate that  the engineers of 'IBB must go' have given birth to Lazy and timid children, when they are pushed to the wall, they would rather jump over the wall and keep running rather than fight to regain Justice. It is pathetic to say the least.
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You must understand that the IBB must go era was a different one.

For better or for worse, we now operate a democracy - even if only a fragile one. We can use all the elements and resources at our disposal to put pressure on these folks. Like someone asked you earlier, how many of the reps have you called or written to? - did you vote?

You think those guys in abuja suddenly decided to swear goodluck in just because they suddenly liked his face? - it was pressure my brother. International pressure, people protesting, journalists writing articles, lawyers filing supreme court cases, the combination of all those things together brought change, throw in strike actions where necessary, mass mobilisations and things will change,

However, if you want to lead an armed insurrection, why not lead from the front ? - instead of yapping on nairaland. talk is cheap, show us how its done please.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by jumobi1(m): 12:32am On Mar 12, 2010
kosovo for prez
We honestly need more gingered protests. Some Molotov and some rocks. Sign board protest no dey work.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by SkyBlue1: 12:38am On Mar 12, 2010
cap28:

so nigeria's docile citizenry are part of the current problem? well, if you know this why are you advocating peaceful protest?  If our docility has enabled the nigerian elite to take us for a ride for so long - is it peaceful protest that will make them treat us with more respect?  

the fact that you are terrified of looking at the situation for what it is speaks volumes about what sort of person you are.  

the reason that you cant come up with any constructive argument to back your bogus claim that non violent protest works is for the simple reason that it doesnt work, you have not been able to name any situation anywhere in the world where peaceful protest has worked, even in so called civilised societies violence is always used in order to force the hand of govt, look at Greece which is currently in a state of economic meltdown - do you think the greeks are sitting around talking about peaceful protest - no they are revolting and in some instances they have resorted to violent protests in order to let their govt know that they will not take the current hardships that they are being subjected to lying down.

genuine apology if you feel offended, but I just can't be bothered educating you if you are genuinely not being mischevious for the sake of it. Mandela, MLK, Ghandi, please go read up on history. The fact that I do not respond to you is more to do with me not wanting to go into a futile debate. No need to dodge the issue. You want violence you go start it. If not you are much lazier and more docile than those who even have the courage to protest. So please, stop being a hypocrite and stop embarassing yourself.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by mamagee3(f): 12:42am On Mar 12, 2010
Like our Peaceful Protests would change the hearts of those thieves
and make thm stop stealing our money. . .
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by omofat: 12:44am On Mar 12, 2010
mama-gee:

Like our Peaceful Protests would change the hearts of those thieves
and make thm stop stealing our money. . .

Lets go and kill all of them then. We do we meet for this operation? angry
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by cap28: 12:50am On Mar 12, 2010
omo~fat:


You must understand that the IBB must go era was a different one.

what planet are you living on?

please explain to me how the IBB era is different from where we are now?  

didnt obasanjo invite the IMF and World Bank in to nigeria to privatise the entire public sector, didnt he agree to impose austerity measures on the nigerian populace in accordance with their instructions just like his predecessor IBB did in the 80's - didnt obasanjo handover the baton to Yaradua with instructions to carry on with these measures which are making the lives of ordinary nigerians hell on earth?

For better or for worse, we now operate a democracy - even if only a fragile one. We can use all the elements and resources at our disposal to put pressure on these folks. Like someone asked you earlier, how many of the reps have you called or written to? - did you vote?

a democracy is a system of govt for the people controlled by the people - if you are seriously telling me that the nigerian people have any control over their current govt then you deserve to be placed in a secure unit as you are in an advanced state of clinical psychosis.

You think those guys in abuja suddenly decided to swear goodluck in just because they suddenly liked his face? - it was pressure my brother. International pressure, people protesting, journalists writing articles, lawyers filing supreme court cases, the combination of all those things together brought change, throw in strike actions where necessary, mass mobilisations and things will change,

i am inclined to agree with you partially on this one but not entirely, yes Jonathan was forced in but the question you should ask yourself is why?  i can tell you now that it had nothing to do with any of the reasons you set out above - i have said it before and i will say it again the west do not have nigeria's interest at heart and their intentions towards us has not changed since the days of slavery, they are imperialists they are only interested in going where they can gain.  i believe yaradua was forced out in order to make way for a more malleable leader someone weaker - someone like jonathan - the question you should ask yourself is this - why is it that no-one has set eyes on yaradua since his alleged return to nigeria over 2 weeks ago? 

However, if you want to lead an armed insurrection, why not lead from the front ? - instead of yapping on nairaland. talk is cheap, show us how its done please.

since you havent got the balls to even advocate let alone take up armed insurrection prepare yourself, your children and your grandchildren for another 200 years of bondage and suffering as that is what the nigerian kleptocrats have in store for us.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Beaf: 1:03am On Mar 12, 2010
Sky Blue:

genuine apology if you feel offended, but I just can't be bothered educating you if you are genuinely not being mischevious for the sake of it. Mandela, MLK, Ghandi, please go read up on history. The fact that I do not respond to you is more to do with me not wanting to go into a futile debate. No need to dodge the issue. You want violence you go start it. If not you are much lazier and more docile than those who even have the courage to protest. So please, stop being a hypocrite and stop embarassing yourself.

You are wrong here. For example, Mandela was the leader of the armed faction of the ANC (Umkotho We Sizwe); he made and deployed bombs and he carried a revolver.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by SkyBlue1: 1:14am On Mar 12, 2010
P.S. protest is not the panacea to Nigeria's problems, but it is a step in the right direction. It shows a citizenry that is concerned enough about its ills to actually act. Protest is actually a manifestation of this genuine concern that is ready to go beyond cheap words. It is thesame way getting more people to pay taxes won't be the panacea to Nigeria's leadership problem and corruption, but again a step in the right direction. More people paying taxes or even doing something as simple as voting, can be seen as a form of investment of effort or finance or time having the potential to spark the curiosity of the citizens with regards to the result of such investments and the point of it all. If people can begin to ask "how was my tax spent", "did my vote count and if not why and how can I make it count", that is surely a start and the birth of a citizenry that is on the verge of questioning their leaders and holding them accountable.

Some might disagree and they are welcome to it. What is amusing is pontificating on thoughts which have in most cases been well discussed, thereby turning a lot of these analyses into a simple case of recycled speeches, while the house is burning. There is a time to talk and there is a time to act. For how long would people think talking blindly and doing nothing solves everything? If the people who went on the protest or did something else leaning towards the proactive are lethargic, then what on earth does that make all those who just stay online to "proffer" solutions they never seem to have the courage to chase or work on? Don't tell us what needs to be done, have the guts to start it yourself, or are you waiting for people with more guts to do it for you? If you think violence is the answer then get to it already and spare us the condescending speeches please.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by omofat: 1:24am On Mar 12, 2010
cap28:

what planet are you living on?

please explain to me how the IBB era is different from where we are now?  

didnt obasanjo invite the IMF and World Bank in to nigeria to privatise the entire public sector, didnt he agree to impose austerity measures on the nigerian populace in accordance with their instructions just like his predecessor IBB did in the 80's - didnt obasanjo handover the baton to Yaradua with instructions to carry on with these measures which are making the lives of ordinary nigerians hell on earth?

a democracy is a system of govt for the people controlled by the people - if you are seriously telling me that the nigerian people have any control over their current govt then you deserve to be placed in a secure unit as you are in an advanced state of clinical psychosis.

i am inclined to agree with you partially on this one but not entirely, yes Jonathan was forced in but the question you should ask yourself is why?  i can tell you now that it had nothing to do with any of the reasons you set out above - i have said it before and i will say it again the west do not have nigeria's interest at heart and their intentions towards us has not changed since the days of slavery, they are imperialists they are only interested in going where they can gain.  i believe yaradua was forced out in order to make way for a more malleable leader someone weaker - someone like jonathan - the question you should ask yourself is this - why is it that no-one has set eyes on yaradua since his alleged return to nigeria over 2 weeks ago? 

since you havent got the balls to even advocate let alone take up armed insurrection prepare yourself, your children and your grandchildren for another 200 years of bondage and suffering as that is what the nigerian kleptocrats have in store for us.

By IBB's era being a different one to our current situation, I simply meant in terms of us currently running a democratic government. IBBs was a military regime so it was pretty clear that the full range of resources couldnt be deployed. The judiciary was virtually nonexistent, journalists were arrested willy nilly and there was general chaos. And by the way, please remind me what the success of the IBB must go riots was? - you really think the guy left office cause a bunch of people coming to take him in aso rock? - you gotta be kidding me.

Obasanjo was "democratically" elected (we can argue about election rigging and the legality of the elections, etc on a separate thread). But the point still remains. We elected the clown and so whatever policies he enacted, he did in our name. If we didnt like it, then we the people had the power to eject him (like we did with the 3rd term agenda - and nobody took up arms for that one). It was all civil protests of varying forms.

No one has set eyes on yaradua since he got back because the joker is very sick and he has a bunch of loons trying to perpetuate him in power and spread confusion so that Jonathan doesnt exercise his full range of powers. that's what i think. I'm sure you'd correct me otherwise but I dont see what your question has to do with what we're talking about. Jonathan's weakness is Jonathan's fault. The fight hasn't really been about him. If a dog happened to be the VP, it should have been giving the powers to steer the ship of state - end off. It wasnt about Jonathan at all.

Sadly, I agree that the nigerian kleptocracy as you put have no plans but evil for us. However, I still maintain that armed insurrection isnt the answer. The last thing we need now is to provide the military with an excuse to return. Change doesn't come overnight. It takes time and persistent pressure - and I dare say that in 200 years, our grandkids and greatgrandkids (yours and mine) will live in a much better nigeria - one where equity and justice reigns. Cynicism doesnt get you very far my man.

Yes!  I dare to dream!! -
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by ebere1712: 2:34am On Mar 12, 2010
As much as I agree with kosovo that peaceful demonstration is an utter waste of time when we are looking for a change the scale of what we want in Nigeria, I must disagree with the notion that violence is the way to go. However what we need now is a co-ordinated effort from all groups and communities in Nigeria to fight these criminals and their foreign collaborators. For those who are talking about their saviour the united states and the fictional international communities, I can only say that you guys are at the least naive. Isn't it bbc that was trying to deceive Nigerians with their yaradua interview propaganda. Isn't it your so loved US that are waiting earnestly for your communities to be consumed in war, so they can come in and protect their oil interests. Isn't it the US and britain, your most beloved saviours that went to Nigeria to lobby Nigerian number one criminal (Babangida) to rig your votes and become Nigeria's next chief of army thieves. Won't yous open your eyes and see that our destiny is in our hands. We would either bail cowardly and sell our birthright to the good for nothing criminals we have as our government, or we rise and take control (even if we have to do it by force). We have to be organised in this struggle. First we go peacefully and if they are still adamant, we would have to go with force. The SNG, massob, and other peaceful demonstrators are doing the right thing now. Lets do it in phases, so we wont look like trouble makers all the way. The peaceful demonstrations would not yield any fruits but it is a necesary step. All ground breaking positive changes we see now in the world was achieved with righteous force. The Niger Delta is doing the right thing to fight for their resources. Methinks the things happening in Nigeria now is an eye opener for many Nigerians. Yes we love our disparate communities and cultures so much, but for us to survive in this wicked world we must work with one another in goodwill. If we can't do this, then we can't succeed; simple and short.
Lest I forget marthin luther king didn't free slaves, he was campaigning so that blacks and women in the usa can vote. The slaves freed themselves, no body freed them. The west would spread lies like abraham licoln freed slaves which is just ridiculous. how could a man as racist as licoln and his co-horts free slaves. I would be forever surprised that a human being, not to mention a black man can call Mandela a terrorist for fighting apartheid.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 3:31am On Mar 12, 2010
all these people advocating violence fail to understand that all you are really doing is upping the ante.

the police guarded the protesters in th most recent rally

lets do it beaf's way, molotov cocktails the whole shebang -

what next you have authorised te government to violently put down your demonstration. you have lost the moral high ground.


as you bring your molotov, the govt brings rubber bullets, and it escalates from there, and soon everyone forgets what the demonstration was about in the first place.

mahamtma ghandi demonstrated that passive resistance does work

in the end violence only begets more violence


even worse, it means that your demonstration/movement will get hijacked by people with different agendas

thats how we go from demonstrations to riots to looting

thats why so many criminal organizations (FARC, MEND) started out as movements pursuing just goals.


armed insurrections invariably devolve into civil war or worse - ask the french
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 4:20am On Mar 12, 2010
Peaceful demonstration has never worked! Revolution is bloody and it can't be peaceful even racist Ghandi had killed enough Zulus in South Africa before preaching peace like a pussy soldier. Nigerians are just scared. Live to die not die to live!!!
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 5:41am On Mar 12, 2010
^^^

martin luther king vs heuy newton
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 5:50am On Mar 12, 2010
And they still violently shot Martin Luther!!!! There'll never be peace unless we get what we want. Peaceful demonstration against these politicians in Nigeria? They won't budge cause they know all you do is shout and shout and then go back to your houses. Strikes in all sector won't even hurt them much. Kidnap their kids, kill them all.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by kosovo(m): 8:04am On Mar 12, 2010
jumobi1:

kosovo for prez
We honestly need more gingered protests. Some Molotov and some rocks. Sign board protest no dey work.
cheesy
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 8:24am On Mar 12, 2010
@Marvix, do you honestly think Martin Luther demonstarted once and that was it? No its a process, a long hard process. I wolud love to stay and talk endlessly with u here but i have lots of work to do on the process. Keep ntalkiing here you seem to have all the time to talk. Kudos
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 8:40am On Mar 12, 2010
the reign of terror(france)
khmer rouge(cambodia)
sendero luminoso (peru)
tupac amaru (peru)
Farc (colombia)

those are a few examples of what violent protests metamorphose into

the other thing about violent revolutions - they change nothing but the status quo

the ruling elite are washed away, and the revolutionary leaders take their places, and it is business as usual/ or worse

in almost all these situation it is people like u and me that get the short end of the stick - between the devil and the deep blues sea - govt forces and revolutionary insurgents

keep living in lalaland 

violence is the last refuge of the incompetent

in the end there is no difference between anyone advocating for violent solutions to nigeria's problems and those fulani herdsmen -
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 8:57am On Mar 12, 2010
Those Muslim Fulani herdsmen are fighting their own war and see how far they've gone? The made their intentions known. Sharia state or leave the north. I just want to kill all the politicians.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 9:10am On Mar 12, 2010
Those Muslim Fulani herdsmen are fighting their own war and see how far they've gone? The made their intentions known. Sharia state or leave the north. I just want to kill all the politicians.

^^^^

like you, they believe violence is the only way to address their grievances

this is the way your proposal works

kill all politicians , then kill all their families, then their friends, then their biz associates eventually its going to come down to you - look at nairaland - some retarded individuals claim that seun is in the pay of the Nigerian government - go after him as well.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by cap28: 9:13am On Mar 12, 2010
Sky Blue:

genuine apology if you feel offended, but I just can't be bothered educating you if you are genuinely not being mischevious for the sake of it. Mandela, MLK, Ghandi, please go read up on history. The fact that I do not respond to you is more to do with me not wanting to go into a futile debate. No need to dodge the issue. You want violence you go start it. If not you are much lazier and more docile than those who even have the courage to protest. So please, stop being a hypocrite and stop embarassing yourself.

haha, you, educate me - thats a joke  grin grin grin

okay let me educate you because its obvious you dont understand anything about any of the above named people  - Mandela did not use peaceful protests to overthrow the racist apatheid regime - the struggle to overthrow aparthied involved: mass mobilisation, armed struggle an underground movement and international solidarity - all of these elements combined to topple aparthied which was a formidable structure backed by many powerful superpowers including britain, israel and america.

Ghandi - again you have displayed your ignorance - Ghandi was humiliated in south africa when he was not allowed to sit in the first class section of a train despite having a valid ticket simply because he was indian as a result he vowed to fight injustice wherever he came across it, i doubt that you have read anything about him and just blurt out his name in ignorance, no doubt you have not heard of one of the very first resistance movements that he formed known as satyagrahis - which means force borne out of truth and love - he also stated the following: "A satyagrahi bids good-bye to fear," therefore for you to mention him as if he didnt understand the inevitability of challenging tyranny with force displays how little you know about him.

MLK possibly was the only leader who tried to use non violent means to bring about change but discovered belatedly that there was only so much he could achieve with it, the white establishment understood that he was no threat to the status quo as long as he kept preaching non violence, MLK and a few other black leaders were actually paid to keep the black masses from rioting, the whites in a bid to control the movement infiltrated it with informants which weakened it.  eventually MLK himself became dissillusioned with the movement and started openly criticising american foreign policy which resulted in him being assassinated.

after his death the white establishment paid off members of his organisation by giving them big jobs and positions in society and introducing minor changes like affirmative action, however the status quo remains intact with many blacks in america still occupying the bottom rung of the social ladder.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 9:40am On Mar 12, 2010
MLK possibly was the only leader who tried to use non violent means to bring about change but discovered belatedly that there was only so much he could achieve with it, the white establishment understood that he was no threat to the status quo as long as he kept preaching non violence, MLK and a few other black leaders were actually paid to keep the black masses from rioting, the whites in a bid to control the movement infiltrated it with informants which weakened it. eventually MLK himself became dissillusioned with the movement and started openly criticising american foreign policy which resulted in him being assassinated.

you are mixing up black panther history, and the black panthers devolved into blood vs crips

okay let me educate you because its obvious you dont understand anything about any of the above named people - Mandela did not use peaceful protests to overthrow the racist apatheid regime - the struggle to overthrow aparthied involved: mass mobilisation, armed struggle an underground movement and international solidarity - all of these elements combined to topple aparthied which was a formidable structure backed by many powerful superpowers including britain, israel and america.

and all those methods didn't work. you are twisting history. the final demise or apartheid did not come through violent struggle.

you have also forgotten how winnie mandela devolved from a heroine to a vampiric thug

Ghandi - again you have displayed your ignorance - Ghandi was humiliated in south africa when he was not allowed to sit in the first class section of a train despite having a valid ticket simply because he was indian as a result he vowed to fight injustice wherever he came across it, i doubt that you have read anything about him and just blurt out his name in ignorance, no doubt you have not heard of one of the very first resistance movements that he formed known as satyagrahis - which means force borne out of truth and love - he also stated the following: "A satyagrahi bids good-bye to fear," therefore for you to mention him as if he didnt understand the inevitability of challenging tyranny with force displays how little you know about him.

ghandi may ave started with violence, but he did not finish that way.

so there's hope for all you anarchists smiley
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 9:41am On Mar 12, 2010
oyb:

^^^^

like you, they believe violence is the only way to address their grievances

this is the way your proposal works

kill all politicians , then kill all their families, then their friends, then their biz associates eventually its going to come down to you - look at nairaland - some retarded individuals claim that seun is in the pay of the Nigerian government - go after him as well.  

Hmmm let me guess, you want people to keep screaming their heads off everyday?  To Nigerian politicians? Are you serious? How long did Dele Giwa peacefully protested before he got killed? Niger Deltans didn't just woke one morning and started kidnapping did they? No one listens to noises or read placards except us. The government doesn't care. Our vote doesn't count even if we vote for the right person, it will get rigged. So what are you saying? I used to think I was naive and now I found a junior!!! It won't come around me you know why? because I don't benefit from Nigerian government. You really think peaceful protest will answer our question? Go ahead, I'll load this M-16 up for you when you are tired of screaming and ready to get down!!!



@OYB

The Gandhi quote in your comment above this one. Who said that? That person must not have read a bit about Gandhi. He was just as racist as the rednecks he served. Stop thinking Gandhi is a peaceful man, he is racist!!! Racist racist racist. He wasn't fighting for apartheid to be over, he was fighting for Indians not to be lumped with he said and I quote "lower race". Please please, projecting Gandhi as a peaceful man is a British propaganda and a tribute to one of Brits finest knights who joined in mass slaughter of the Zulus
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by SkyBlue1: 10:09am On Mar 12, 2010
cap28:

haha, you, educate me - thats a joke  grin grin grin

okay let me educate you because its obvious you dont understand anything about any of the above named people  - Mandela did not use peaceful protests to overthrow the racist apatheid regime - the struggle to overthrow aparthied involved: mass mobilisation, armed struggle an underground movement and international solidarity - all of these elements combined to topple aparthied which was a formidable structure backed by many powerful superpowers including britain, israel and america.

Ghandi - again you have displayed your ignorance - Ghandi was humiliated in south africa when he was not allowed to sit in the first class section of a train despite having a valid ticket simply because he was indian as a result he vowed to fight injustice wherever he came across it, i doubt that you have read anything about him and just blurt out his name in ignorance, no doubt you have not heard of one of the very first resistance movements that he formed known as satyagrahis - which means force borne out of truth and love - he also stated the following: "A satyagrahi bids good-bye to fear," therefore for you to mention him as if he didnt understand the inevitability of challenging tyranny with force displays how little you know about him.

MLK possibly was the only leader who tried to use non violent means to bring about change but discovered belatedly that there was only so much he could achieve with it, the white establishment understood that he was no threat to the status quo as long as he kept preaching non violence, MLK and a few other black leaders were actually paid to keep the black masses from rioting, the whites in a bid to control the movement infiltrated it with informants which weakened it.  eventually MLK himself became dissillusioned with the movement and started openly criticising american foreign policy which resulted in him being assassinated.

after his death the white establishment paid off members of his organisation by giving them big jobs and positions in society and introducing minor changes like affirmative action, however the status quo remains intact with many blacks in america still occupying the bottom rung of the social ladder. 


I won't further engage you in diversionary arguements, the research is there for you have been shown that examples do exist. Let us get back on point. You want violence? What is stopping you? Are you all talk and no actions? Are your convictions that worthless? Are you more lethargic and lazy than those that even have the courage to protest? What is stopping you from instigating this "change" you want? Does your courage end with the ability to post online recycled commentary? Are you unable to swallow your own remedy and expect others to do it for you? If you are all these then what gives you the moral authority to call those who are more proactive lazy? Who among the two have a bettehr chance of getting anything done? Why not cut out the diversionary arguements and engage in some worthwhile introspection?
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 10:14am On Mar 12, 2010
9jaganja:

Hmmm let me guess, you want people to keep screaming their heads off everyday?  To Nigerian politicians? Are you serious? How long did Dele Giwa peacefully protested before he got killed? Niger Deltans didn't just woke one morning and started kidnapping did they? No one listens to noises or read placards except us. The government doesn't care. Our vote doesn't count even if we vote for the right person, it will get rigged. So what are you saying? I used to think I was naive and now I found a junior!!! It won't come around me you know why? because I don't benefit from Nigerian government. You really think peaceful protest will answer our question? Go ahead, I'll load this M-16 up for you when you are tired of screaming and ready to get down!!!



@OYB

The Gandhi quote in your comment above this one. Who said that? That person must not have read a bit about Gandhi. He was just as racist as the rednecks he served. Stop thinking Gandhi is a peaceful man, he is racist!!! Racist racist racist. He wasn't fighting for apartheid to be over, he was fighting for Indians not to be lumped with he said and I quote "lower race". Please please, projecting Gandhi as a peaceful man is a British propaganda and a tribute to one of Brits finest knights who joined in mass slaughter of the Zulus


keyboard gangsta making mouth.   cheesy cheesy

this is not bad company on your PS3

you may have forgotten that some 'former militants' demonstrated in port harcourt last year or was it this year.

remeber?

perhaps you were one of those who fought for their rights by vandalising cars, despoiling female students and looting  embarassed

british propaganda in favour of some one who fought against colonization cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by Nobody: 10:18am On Mar 12, 2010
oyb:

keyboard gangsta making mouth.   cheesy cheesy

this is not bad company on your PS3

you may have forgotten that some 'former militants' demonstrated in port harcourt last year or was it this year.

remeber?

perhaps you were one of those who fought for their rights by vandalising cars, despoiling female students and looting  embarassed


Hahahahah you got me on that one!! Ok fine but let's be honest, Nigerian politicians won't listen to us. That's a fact. And even when they get court stealing a get a slap on the wrist. It has to be something beyond placards, they have t know we are serious.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by kosovo(m): 10:22am On Mar 12, 2010
Any attempt to put the Nigeria people in a state of sekuku must be discourage. We must use protest coupled with Force to drive home our demands.
Re: Peaceful Protest In Nigeria Is A Total Waste Of Time. Here's Why by omofat: 10:26am On Mar 12, 2010
Sky Blue:

I won't further engage you in diversionary arguements, the research is there for you have been shown that examples do exist. Let us get back on point. You want violence? What is stopping you? Are you all talk and no actions? Are your convictions that worthless? Are you more lethargic and lazy than those that even have the courage to protest? What is stopping you from instigating this "change" you want? Does your courage end with the ability to post online recycled commentary? Are you unable to swallow your own remedy and expect others to do it for you? If you are all these then what gives you the moral authority to call those who are more proactive lazy? Who among the two have a bettehr chance of getting anything done? Why not cut out the diversionary arguements and engage in some worthwhile introspection?

Thank you Sky Blue. All these people that want to fight to the end with the last drop of other people's blood. Bloody cowards!

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