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Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Mulakintanwa(m): 6:18am On Nov 13, 2017
https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/terah-gr.html

TERAH: GR. THARA AND OBA-THALA IS ONE AND SAME PERSON, AND THE FATHER OF ABI-ORUNMILA (ABRAM)

HARAN is the Orun mentioned in the yoruba story of creation. Due to loss in touch with the proper use and ancient meaning of the various words involved in this biblical history.

Original: הרן Hebrew dictionary
Transliteration: hârân
Phonetic: haw-rawn' (which is örun in Yorba languge)
BDB Definition: Haran = " mountaineer"

youngest son of Terah, brother of Abraham, father of Lot, Milcah, and Iscah; born and died in Ur of the Chaldees

name of the place to which Abraham migrated from Ur of the Chaldees and where the descendants of his brother Nahor established themselves; probably located in Mesopotamia

Strong's Definition: Perhaps from H2022; mountaineer ; Haran, the name of two men: - Haran.

H2022 Hebrew dictionary
Original: הר
Transliteration: har
Phonetic: har (also hörun)
BDB Definition: hill, mountain, hill country, mount
Origin: a shortened form of H2042
TWOT entry: 517a
Part(s) of speech: Noun Masculine
Strong's Definition: A shortened form of H2042; a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively): - hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion.

Ur of chaldea is also called orun but of the sun in yoruba. According to his name Oba_Thara meaning delay, left "örun" (sun) of chaldea but delayed at Haran which is another "örun" (of the high places/heaven) where he died.

The Abram or Abi_orun-Milla then continue the journey to the land of promise where he gained the encounter name of abi_iru-homi (iru: likes, homi: water in multitudes), that open up is ability to give birth.

He gave birth to ishmael whose divine encounter name is yagbonireewun, Yisake (isaac), LaMorin (zamrin), shoo'-akh meaning wealth, etc.

Ephah and ifa in yoruba is a grandchild of Abi_orun-mila.

Original: זמרן Hebrew dictionary
Transliteration: zimrân (LaMorin in Yoruba).
Phonetic: zim-rawn'
BDB Definition: Zimran = " musician" (Orin is music in yoruba)

Thara's name mean delay.

H8646 Hebrew dictionary
Original: תּרח
Transliteration: terach special note (terah: Gr. Thara)
Phonetic: teh'-rakh (ti-araka- useless activity in yoruba language)
BDB Definition: Tarah = " delay"
the father of Abraham (noun proper masculine)
a station of Israel in the wilderness (noun proper locative)
Origin: of uncertain derivation
TWOT entry: None
Part(s) of speech:
Strong's Definition: Of uncertain derivation; Terach, the father of Abraham; also a place in the Desert: - Tarah, Terah.

terah: Gr. Thara.
The same God of heaven and earth has chosen Jesus Christ and sacrifice him. Preparing by Him Christ eternal Spirit to bear His utmost love and restoration plan for mankind, especially the children of his friend abi_orun-mila become Abi_iru-homi.

ABRAHAM IS ORUNMILA.
Abram: Abi -rawm
Abi : To father, Fathered, in Yoruba it is also called ABI.eg in Abi-ola.

Aw-raw- : aw-rawn high place, hill top, heavenly places Yoruba call this ORUN.
For more

https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/terah-gr.html
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Eggcelent(m): 6:26am On Nov 13, 2017
Interesting!
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by nigeriancritic1(m): 6:44am On Nov 13, 2017
Mulakintanwa:

https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/terah-gr.html

TERAH: GR. THARA AND OBA-THALA IS ONE AND SAME PERSON, AND THE FATHER OF ABI-ORUNMILA (ABRAM)

HARAN is the Orun mentioned in the yoruba story of creation. Due to loss in touch with the proper use and ancient meaning of the various words involved in this biblical history.

Original: הרן Hebrew dictionary
Transliteration: hârân
Phonetic: haw-rawn' (which is örun in Yorba languge)
BDB Definition: Haran = " mountaineer"

youngest son of Terah, brother of Abraham, father of Lot, Milcah, and Iscah; born and died in Ur of the Chaldees

name of the place to which Abraham migrated from Ur of the Chaldees and where the descendants of his brother Nahor established themselves; probably located in Mesopotamia

Strong's Definition: Perhaps from H2022; mountaineer ; Haran, the name of two men: - Haran.

H2022 Hebrew dictionary
Original: הר
Transliteration: har
Phonetic: har (also hörun)
BDB Definition: hill, mountain, hill country, mount
Origin: a shortened form of H2042
TWOT entry: 517a
Part(s) of speech: Noun Masculine
Strong's Definition: A shortened form of H2042; a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively): - hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion.

Ur of chaldea is also called orun but of the sun in yoruba. According to his name Oba_Thara meaning delay, left "örun" (sun) of chaldea but delayed at Haran which is another "örun" (of the high places/heaven) where he died.

The Abram or Abi_orun-Milla then continue the journey to the land of promise where he gained the encounter name of abi_iru-homi (iru: likes, homi: water in multitudes), that open up is ability to give birth.

He gave birth to ishmael whose divine encounter name is yagbonireewun, Yisake (isaac), LaMorin (zamrin), shoo'-akh meaning wealth, etc.

Ephah and ifa in yoruba is a grandchild of Abi_orun-mila.

Original: זמרן Hebrew dictionary
Transliteration: zimrân (LaMorin in Yoruba).
Phonetic: zim-rawn'
BDB Definition: Zimran = " musician" (Orin is music in yoruba)

Thara's name mean delay.

H8646 Hebrew dictionary
Original: תּרח
Transliteration: terach special note (terah: Gr. Thara)
Phonetic: teh'-rakh (ti-araka- useless activity in yoruba language)
BDB Definition: Tarah = " delay"
the father of Abraham (noun proper masculine)
a station of Israel in the wilderness (noun proper locative)
Origin: of uncertain derivation
TWOT entry: None
Part(s) of speech:
Strong's Definition: Of uncertain derivation; Terach, the father of Abraham; also a place in the Desert: - Tarah, Terah.

terah: Gr. Thara.
The same God of heaven and earth has chosen Jesus Christ and sacrifice him. Preparing by Him Christ eternal Spirit to bear His utmost love and restoration plan for mankind, especially the children of his friend abi_orun-mila become Abi_iru-homi.

ABRAHAM IS ORUNMILA.
Abram: Abi -rawm
Abi : To father, Fathered, in Yoruba it is also called ABI.eg in Abi-ola.

Aw-raw- : aw-rawn high place, hill top, heavenly places Yoruba call this ORUN.
For more

https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/terah-gr.html
Op! Op!! Op!!! How many times did I call you? YOU NEED AN EDUCATION. ALL YOU HAD WAS SCHOOLING.

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Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by oyatmicah(m): 6:56am On Nov 13, 2017
its like u have muscle pull in ur brain @op, so Abraham is now a yoruba man and black at that

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Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Franzinni: 7:27am On Nov 13, 2017
cheesy this is a joke right?
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by oluwatodimu1(m): 10:18am On Nov 13, 2017
at times people just look for ways of exciting theirselves... continue!

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Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Olu317(m): 12:54pm On Nov 13, 2017
Mulakintanwa:

https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/terah-gr.html

TERAH: GR. THARA AND OBA-THALA IS ONE AND SAME PERSON, AND THE FATHER OF ABI-ORUNMILA (ABRAM)

HARAN is the Orun mentioned in the yoruba story of creation. Due to loss in touch with the proper use and ancient meaning of the various words involved in this biblical history.

Original: הרן Hebrew dictionary
Transliteration: hârân
Phonetic: haw-rawn' (which is örun in Yorba languge)
BDB Definition: Haran = " mountaineer"

youngest son of Terah, brother of Abraham, father of Lot, Milcah, and Iscah; born and died in Ur of the Chaldees

name of the place to which Abraham migrated from Ur of the Chaldees and where the descendants of his brother Nahor established themselves; probably located in Mesopotamia

Strong's Definition: Perhaps from H2022; mountaineer ; Haran, the name of two men: - Haran.

H2022 Hebrew dictionary
Original: הר
Transliteration: har
Phonetic: har (also hörun)
BDB Definition: hill, mountain, hill country, mount
Origin: a shortened form of H2042
TWOT entry: 517a
Part(s) of speech: Noun Masculine
Strong's Definition: A shortened form of H2042; a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively): - hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion.

Ur of chaldea is also called orun but of the sun in yoruba. According to his name Oba_Thara meaning delay, left "örun" (sun) of chaldea but delayed at Haran which is another "örun" (of the high places/heaven) where he died.

The Abram or Abi_orun-Milla then continue the journey to the land of promise where he gained the encounter name of abi_iru-homi (iru: likes, homi: water in multitudes), that open up is ability to give birth.

He gave birth to ishmael whose divine encounter name is yagbonireewun, Yisake (isaac), LaMorin (zamrin), shoo'-akh meaning wealth, etc.

Ephah and ifa in yoruba is a grandchild of Abi_orun-mila.

Original: זמרן Hebrew dictionary
Transliteration: zimrân (LaMorin in Yoruba).
Phonetic: zim-rawn'
BDB Definition: Zimran = " musician" (Orin is music in yoruba)

Thara's name mean delay.

H8646 Hebrew dictionary
Original: תּרח
Transliteration: terach special note (terah: Gr. Thara)
Phonetic: teh'-rakh (ti-araka- useless activity in yoruba language)
BDB Definition: Tarah = " delay"
the father of Abraham (noun proper masculine)
a station of Israel in the wilderness (noun proper locative)
Origin: of uncertain derivation
TWOT entry: None
Part(s) of speech:
Strong's Definition: Of uncertain derivation; Terach, the father of Abraham; also a place in the Desert: - Tarah, Terah.

terah: Gr. Thara.
The same God of heaven and earth has chosen Jesus Christ and sacrifice him. Preparing by Him Christ eternal Spirit to bear His utmost love and restoration plan for mankind, especially the children of his friend abi_orun-mila become Abi_iru-homi.

ABRAHAM IS ORUNMILA.
Abram: Abi -rawm
Abi : To father, Fathered, in Yoruba it is also called ABI.eg in Abi-ola.

Aw-raw- : aw-rawn high place, hill top, heavenly places Yoruba call this ORUN.
For more

https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/terah-gr.html
Very insightful. Ur can also be said to be a place Yoruba refer as “Oru" -Ooyelagbo. Either it true or not, time and research will expose the truth to the world . Even words like Oke Ora look very suspicious. In Egypt, the was a place called Land of Ra. This has to do with a place where Egyptians worshiped Ram and one of their god. And in this place, Many other groups lived in that land, including children of Israel. The most interesting is Egyptians don't use Ram as sacrifice unlike Yorubas that uses Ram as sacrifice and other animals . Many names in Yoruba land attached to many settlements looks foreign
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Mulakintanwa(m): 3:38pm On Nov 13, 2017
https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/a-satan-does-not-exist-it-is-just-error.html

A. SATAN DOES NOT EXIST, IT IS JUST AN ERROR OF INTERPRETATION OF TORAH.

B. WOMAN WAS MADE TO BE A FRIEND TO PREVENT LONELINESS AND NOT HELPER OF HELP MEET.

C. CHRISTIANS ARE PRESENTLY HOLDING TO WRONG UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A SPIRIT IS.

ANCIENT HEBREW IS THE ANCIENT FORM OF THE LANGUAGE WE NOW CALLED YORUBA LANGUAGE.

SEE IT FOR YOURSELF.

A. THE WORD TRANSLATED SATAN IN THE ANCIENT HEBREWS TORAH.



1. The first time a variation of the word sounding S/Z/SH-T-N was used in the torah, is in Gen 2:23.




With the consonants [Z-E-TH H-F-AI-M.
This is the first two words auttered by Adam on seeing Eve his wife in the ancient Hebrew Torah.

Z-E-TH, on putting proper vowelization into modern yoruba system of writing, this was arrived at "awZ_E-TH_an" = "oZeTHan".

In modern yoruba writing "O Se THan" that is 'you have done' or 'you have finished doing', "it" could be added to have a proper sentence to have "you have done it".

H-F-AI-M with proper vowelization will give us "Ho FAI Mi" meaning "it pulls/draws me" in the case of attraction. In other words "it attracts me" of sexual arousal.

On seeing Eve first, Adam says "O-şe-tan O fa-mi" in English "you have done it, it attracts me".

2. Another word of the same variation is in verse 24.



W-D-B-KW B-E/A-SH-TH. This is the consonants of the statement used in the verse and was translated "and shall cleave unto his wife" in English translation.

With proper vowelization into modern yoruba system of writing, we now have "Won-Dę-Ba-KWo Ba-E/A-SHe-THi-Wö" which means "shall aid him to join unto his wife".

The word for wife in this statement is "A/E-SHeTHiWo" meaning "ashé thí wò" (ashe:we do it) and (thi wo: push it into).

To properly understand the mind of the writer of the torah, let's consider the word for husband/male here is "A/E-Yaw-SHe" meaning "one that-comes/extend out-to do".
This is actually relating to their sexual nature, male organs draws out longer and stiffer(a yo) to perform sexual activity(she) but it is push into(thi wo) female sexual organ in performing that sexual activity.

3. Another word we will be considering is the word translated "what is this though has done" in Gen 3:13.



With consonants M-H.Z-E-TH AI-SH-Y-TH.

After proper vowelization of this in modern yoruba system of writing , we have "Mo-Hun.oZE-THan AIw-SHe-Yi-THan"

"oZeTHan" already treated above means "you have finished doing ".

"Mo-Hun" is best translated "Mo(know)-Hun(what)" "know what"

"AIw-SHe-Yi-THan" "you have done this!!!"

Together we have "Know what, you have done? You have done this!!!?.


4. The last variation is the one actually translated "satan" in the I chronicles 21:1



Here we have "W-Y-AI-M-D SH-Ts-N AI-L.Y-SH-R-E-L W-Y-S-TH"

On proper vowelization into modern yoruba system of writing, we have

"WaYe AIMODi iSHe oTa eNi AILe YoSHeRa ELu WaYe Sa-THi"

"WaYe " means "come to passs".

"AIMoDi" means "for no reason" or "not knowing the reason".

"iSHę-oTa-eNi" means "acting-contrary-to oneself".

"AILe" means "on".

"eYi-SHeRa-ELu" means "this-persevere/contend with-God" Israel or Iseraelu.

"S-a/i THi" means "has/then move"

No wonder we have people bearing "Erelu" in yoruba land.

Our focus hear is "iSHę-oTa-eNi" means "acting-contrary-to oneself". There English translation of your bible saying "satan move/rose against Israel" is simply tautology.

Satan is 'action that is contrary/against oneself'.


B. SPIRIT

The word translated Spirit in Genesis 1:2 is shown below.




The words are "-TH-H-W-M, W-R-W-K E-L-H-Y-M M-R-K-F TH AI-L.F-N-Y H-M-Y-M"

On proper vowelization into modern yoruba system of writing, we have

"iTHę-HoWMi" means "sea bed" or "base of the sea" translated "deep".

"WeRe-Wa-oKan" means "Swift/Strong-coming/moving-mind" translated "Spirit"

"ELu-HiY-Mi" or "Elu-iwa-mi" "Lord-existence-of mine" or "lord of my existence".

"Mu-eRo-Fa_ THi" means "brought-a thought in_ that"

"AILe-Fo-Ni-oY(J)u" means "Floating on the surface"

"Ho-Mi-eiYe-Mu" means "waters the earth drinks" or "waters of life"

"Spirit of the lord" is the "swift/powerful moving mind of the lord".



C. The word translated help meet in Genesis 2:18



"--E-L-H-Y-M L-E.T-W-B H-Y-W-TH H-E-D-M L-B-D-W E/A-AI-SH. L-W AI-Z-R KH-N-G-D-W"

On proper vowelization into modern yoruba system of writing, we have
"ELuHiYMi" "lord of my existence"

"Now going into what God said"
"LE_ eiTi-Won-Bę" = "on_ things that are"

"He-Yę-Wa-THo" = "not fitting on us enough"

"Hi-E-DaMo" = "creature of clay" that is Adam.

"Le-Ba-Da-Wa" = "should be alone"

"E/A-AI-SHe. oLe-Wa" = "we will make it. It can come"

"AI-Ze-oRę" = "one that will be a friend"

"KHo-Ni-Gan-iDaWa" = "that he will not regret being alone".

"AI-Ze-oRę" = "one that will be a friend". The original word in the Torah is that "woman is to be a friend" not a helper as being presently proclaimed.

https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/a-satan-does-not-exist-it-is-just-error.html
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Mulakintanwa(m): 6:16pm On Nov 17, 2017
MORE PROOF THAT OBATHALA IS THE SAME AS THERA (OBA-THARA) THE FATHER OF ABRAM WHO IS ALSO ABI-ORUNMILA.

In the ancient Torah the word for 'its kind' or 'its type' has TH following corresponding consonants

1. L.M.Y.N.H GEN 1:24
2. L.M.Y.N.H.M GEN 1:21
3. L.M.Y.N.H.W GEN 1:12

On vowelization
1. iLuMiYi NiH

2. iLuMiYi-NiHMi

3. iLuMiYiNiH-Wa

In modern Yoruba that we speak this will be the same except for the 'L' becoming 'R'

Iru mi Yi nih, iru mi Yi nih, iru mi Yi nih wa.

This l is still being used by some yoruba tribe, ęgba is one of those yoruba tribe that enjoy the use of 'l' to replace many other words.

This is just the different between Obatala and Obatara.

But same story surrounds the two, the left a place called ur/òrun and stopped on the way. Yoruba says he was drinking wine and wishing away time. The name 'thera' was said to have originated from a word 'tha-ra-cha/ka' which means the same thing yoruba's saying of him, ta-ra-ka is also a yoruba word meaning doing useless work or being engage in many things of no value at the expense of a profitable assignment.

Reasonably these two are just one person in two different views.
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by macof(m): 9:24am On Nov 18, 2017
Another mad person has joined Nairaland

I blame christianity for all this nonsense. How will somebody just sit down and start drawing up yoruba history from his head, a head that is only filled with Hebrew worship

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Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by GooseBaba: 5:09pm On Nov 18, 2017
macof:
Another mad person has joined Nairaland

I blame christianity for all this nonsense. How will somebody just sit down and start drawing up yoruba history from his head, a head that is only filled with Hebrew worship

Lolz....guy how far na?

Don't mind this yeye poster....all he/she posts is telling Africans that we don't know who we are. Arrant rubbish I tell you..
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by macof(m): 7:30pm On Nov 18, 2017
GooseBaba:


Lolz....guy how far na?

Don't mind this yeye poster....all he/she posts is telling Africans that we don't know who we are. Arrant rubbish I tell you..
my guy. I'm good o.

I should send u a pm. Let's stay in contact
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by GooseBaba: 1:32am On Nov 19, 2017
macof:
my guy. I'm good o.

I should send u a pm. Let's stay in contact

No wahala...
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Olu317(m): 5:54am On Nov 20, 2017
Mulakintanwa:
MORE PROOF THAT OBATHALA IS THE SAME AS THERA (OBA-THARA) THE FATHER OF ABRAM WHO IS ALSO ABI-ORUNMILA.

In the ancient Torah the word for 'its kind' or 'its type' has TH following corresponding consonants

1. L.M.Y.N.H GEN 1:24
2. L.M.Y.N.H.M GEN 1:21
3. L.M.Y.N.H.W GEN 1:12

On vowelization
1. iLuMiYi NiH

2. iLuMiYi-NiHMi

3. iLuMiYiNiH-Wa

In modern Yoruba that we speak this will be the same except for the 'L' becoming 'R'

Iru mi Yi nih, iru mi Yi nih, iru mi Yi nih wa.

This l is still being used by some yoruba tribe, ęgba is one of those yoruba tribe that enjoy the use of 'l' to replace many other words.

This is just the different between Obatala and Obatara.

But same story surrounds the two, the left a place called ur/òrun and stopped on the way. Yoruba says he was drinking wine and wishing away time. The name 'thera' was said to have originated from a word 'tha-ra-cha/ka' which means the same thing yoruba's saying of him, ta-ra-ka is also a yoruba word meaning doing useless work or being engage in many things of no value at the expense of a profitable assignment.

Reasonably these two are just one person in two different views.
Wherever you got this view definitely is based on perception and not accurately on evidence. I do have my own personal opinion on issue such as this but evidences stamp or knock off one's view. Now, from the fact on ground, obatala wasn't TERA because, Adimla existed during the time of Tala. The ancestors of Obatala were the ones ruling through the lineage of Priesthood, while Adimla ancestors who were the princely lineage surfaced. And at a point in time, the princely lineage took over the ruling house. Period.
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by IkpuMmadu: 5:57am On Nov 20, 2017
Hmmmm Yoruba Pepe no dey tire

First oduduwa fell from sky with a chicken in his hand as a parachute and landed in ile Ife

Then , oduduwa was a Benin prince sent to establish ife

Then oduduwa was from Sudan or some funny east African state

Now this ...obatala and Abraham

We are waiting for the next version....
Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Olu317(m): 6:32am On Nov 20, 2017
IkpuMmadu:
Hmmmm Yoruba Pepe no dey tire

First oduduwa fell from sky with a chicken in his hand as a parachute and landed in ile Ife

Then , oduduwa was a Benin prince sent to establish ife

Then oduduwa was from Sudan or some funny east African state

Now this ...obatala and Abraham

We are waiting for the next version....
Whatever anyone chose to write is based on their search over the secrecy on the man mostly addressed as Odu'a. He neither fell from the sky nor a BINI prince but migrated from the Mid East. He lived as a mere mortal and died as every man did. However, the crown called Ade Aaré ,which is the oldest crown in Yoruba land and in the present day Nigeria, according to historical account and evidence does look like the crown comparably to ancient Egyptian crown but slightly different. Yoruba language has a, mixture of kemitic -semitic language fused together. The OP's opinion is based on his personal view or a little research done by him but not all researches are conclusive.

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