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Palm Wine In Islam by Raintaker(m): 9:51pm On Nov 23, 2017
My question is very simple and straight forward, is there a condition for palmwine permissibility in Islam?

Palmwine is widely acclaimed to be medicinal and it's also used in the preparation of some medicines.

So on this basis, is palm wine permissible in Islam?

N:B I'm assuming Palmwine is not really an alcohol until fermentation .

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Empiree: 12:11am On Nov 24, 2017
Is that what Yoruba called Ęmù or Omi ágbôn

Can't tell the difference but I have never consumed "ęmù but i have definitely drank "omi" agbon before.


The thing is, whatever intoxicates is haram. This is clear cut proof. Omi agbon doesn't intoxicates if you drink directly after puncturing hole in it, drain the water and drink it. I have done this on numerous occasions and no problem. Also, coconut (omi àgbón) water is sold in the supermarkets and it is not labeled alcohol.

I have similar thread created yrs back here https://www.nairaland.com/2173406/drinking-palmwine-sin


As you rightly said, palmwine might not be alcohol until it is fermented. You know why?. Many of this fruits we consume naturally like apple, nectarine, plum etc and also vegetables like spanish etc, wine are actually extracted from them after fermentation but eating those fruits and veggies in their natural forms is not haram.

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Raintaker(m): 6:14am On Nov 24, 2017
Empiree:
Is that what Yoruba called Ęmù or Omi ágbôn

Can't tell the difference but I have never consumed "ęmù but i have definitely drank "omi" agbon before.


The thing is, whatever intoxicates is haram. This is clear cut proof. Omi agbon doesn't intoxicates if you drink directly after puncturing hole in it, drain the water and drink it. I have done this on numerous occasions and no problem. Also, coconut (omi àgbón) water is sold in the supermarkets and it is not labeled alcohol.

I have similar thread created yrs back here https://www.nairaland.com/2173406/drinking-palmwine-sin


As you rightly said, palmwine might not be alcohol until it is fermented. You know why?. Many of this fruits we consume naturally like apple, nectarine, plum etc and also vegetables like spanish etc, wine are actual extracted from them after fermentation but eating those fruits and veggies in their natural forms is not haram.
Thanks Palmwine is Emu.


The link you shared is funny though, accusations and counter accusations flying all over the thread.
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Nobody: 9:48am On Nov 24, 2017
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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by IdisuleOurOwn(m): 10:04am On Nov 24, 2017
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Adaowerri111:
Terrorism is permitted
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Looking for cheap 'likes'?
I just gave you one cheesy

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Raintaker(m): 10:15am On Nov 24, 2017
Adaowerri111:
Terrorism is permitted
undecided
Adaowerri111:
Terrorism is permitted

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Afobear: 10:15am On Nov 24, 2017
as a muslim,if you in an aeroplane and suddenly you hear a violent shout of AllahuAkbar,what will you do ?

1.stay calm
2.scamper for safety
3.say your last prayers
4.be happy

answer wisely

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Raintaker(m): 10:18am On Nov 24, 2017
How did these non-muslim folks get into this thread? See them doing what they do best, bunch of rascals

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by binsanni(m): 10:21am On Nov 24, 2017
this palm wine also confuse me, because i don't know weather it is haram or halal
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by anigbajumo(m): 10:26am On Nov 24, 2017
Adaowerri111:
Terrorism is permitted

Go nd do ur research together with some myopic mind like u.Terrorist has killed more Muslim than any other religious followers in the world, that fact is enough to tell u that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.Those who lack critical thinking can think otherwise.

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by ROBOCOB(m): 10:30am On Nov 24, 2017
Palmwine can make you high!

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by iamgenius(m): 10:30am On Nov 24, 2017
binsanni:
this palm wine also confuse me, because i don't know weather it is haram or halal
There's no confusion in it, IT'S HARAAM.
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by iamgenius(m): 10:32am On Nov 24, 2017
Adaowerri111:
Terrorism is permitted
Dìndìnrìn.

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by xclusiveguy4(m): 10:36am On Nov 24, 2017
Salamaleikum brothers and sisters
Please wanna know Islam perspective view about cryptocurrency
As for the palm wine I 'guess' it's not allowed

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by anibirelawal(m): 10:53am On Nov 24, 2017
anigbajumo:


Go nd do ur research together with some myopic mind like u.Terrorist has killed more Muslim than any other religious followers in the world, that fact is enough to tell u that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.Those who lack critical thinking can think otherwise.
Thanks jare. Ask him about the massacare in BOSNIA,maybe he will have a slight knowledge of terrorism.

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by ishowdotgmail(m): 10:56am On Nov 24, 2017
Allah isn't pleased with what gets you intoxicated and misbehave. So palm wine does

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Kakamorufu(m): 10:57am On Nov 24, 2017
Not allowed. Tho i do take it whenever am feeling feverish. It works like magic
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by domack99(m): 11:22am On Nov 24, 2017
Empiree:
Is that what Yoruba called Ęmù or Omi ágbôn

Can't tell the difference but I have never consumed "ęmù but i have definitely drank "omi" agbon before.


The thing is, whatever intoxicates is haram. This is clear cut proof. Omi agbon doesn't intoxicates if you drink directly after puncturing hole in it, drain the water and drink it. I have done this on numerous occasions and no problem. Also, coconut (omi àgbón) water is sold in the supermarkets and it is not labeled alcohol.

I have similar thread created yrs back here https://www.nairaland.com/2173406/drinking-palmwine-sin


As you rightly said, palmwine might not be alcohol until it is fermented. You know why?. Many of this fruits we consume naturally like apple, nectarine, plum etc and also vegetables like spanish etc, wine are actual extracted from them after fermentation but eating those fruits and veggies in their natural forms is not haram.

Palm wine is not Omi agbon (coconut water). Palm wine is an alcoholic drink and from my understand alcohol generally is haram

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by iPopAlomo(m): 11:22am On Nov 24, 2017
Moderation is the koko... taking any form of alcohol moderately isn't haram... it gets to haram point when intoxicated...

Read your Quran properly and don't let all these propagandists fool you...
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by iPopAlomo(m): 11:26am On Nov 24, 2017
before they attack me... awon TMC...




"They question thee about strong drinks and games of chance. Say: In both is great sin, and (some) utility for men; but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness."
— Al-Qur'an 2:219



Moderation is the koko... same goes to betting...
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Empiree: 11:29am On Nov 24, 2017
domack99:


Palm wine is not Omi agbon (coconut water). Palm wine is an alcoholic drink and from my understand alcohol generally is haram
thanks. I get the two confused. Never drank palmwine anyways. I knew it was intoxicant.
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by BenzEne1(m): 11:32am On Nov 24, 2017
I think the sap gets fermented before it is called palmwine. Making it an alcoholic drink and in that case strictly forbidden with sins accruing to the one who buys, the one who sells and the one who drinks.

As for the cryptocurrency thin tho. For value of money, Islam deliberates on three elements, namely mal (wealth), taqawwum (legal value) and thamaniyyah (monetary usage). Upon analysing the features of bitcoin, it tends to possess both the features of mal and taqawwum, but not thamaniyyah. Therefore from the perspective of money in Islam, bitcoin probably misses the mark. Being rather volatile in the past leading to price speculation and with no authoritative central body, elements of gharar do exist. This contradicts with one of the main pillars of Shariah compliance.

I really don't know much about cryptocurrencies. And so far they have even an atom of riba (usury) it is strictly forbidden.

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Empiree: 11:35am On Nov 24, 2017
iPopAlomo:
Moderation is the koko... taking any form of alcohol moderately isn't haram... it gets to haram point when intoxicated...

Read your Quran properly and don't let all these propagandists fool you...
this is wrong. Quran declares it Haram. What are you talking about
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Aliyuminna(m): 11:39am On Nov 24, 2017
What is medicinal is permissible. But there are better alternatives as to taking palm wine.
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by cubzy: 12:08pm On Nov 24, 2017
Who is the idiot that told you terrorism is permitted in islam?

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by klazbaba(m): 1:30pm On Nov 24, 2017
Aliyuminna:
What is medicinal is permissible. But there are better alternatives as to taking palm wine.

What is medicinal is only permissible, if in and of itself; that thing is permissible. As for intoxicants, then no doubt; they are haraam. Allaah, the most exalted says;


“O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab, and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful”
[al-Maa’idah 5:90].

Also, Allaah's prophet (upon him be peace and blessings) forbade that one uses something which is haraam as a drug. Take a look at these narrations;

Abu Dawood narrated in his Sunan that Abu’l-Darda’ (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has sent down the disease and the cure, and He has made for every disease a cure. So treat sickness, but do not treat it with anything haraam.”

In Saheeh Muslim it is narrated from Taariq ibn Suwayd al-Ju’fi that he asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about alcohol and he forbade him or told him not to make it. He said: “But I make it as a remedy.” He said: “It is not a remedy, it is a disease.”

So the matter becomes clear that things that are haraam cannot be used as medicine. Baarakallaahu feekum.

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by coolqayy(m): 1:54pm On Nov 24, 2017
xclusiveguy4:
Salamaleikum brothers and sisters

Please wanna know Islam perspective view about cryptocurrency

As for the palm wine I 'guess' it's not allowed
is beaurue de change allowed in islam ?if u can answer that you can relate it to cyptos
Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Praktikals(m): 4:37pm On Nov 24, 2017
anigbajumo:


Go nd do ur research together with some myopic mind like u.Terrorist has killed more Muslim than any other religious followers in the world, that fact is enough to tell u that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.Those who lack critical thinking can think otherwise.
you can lie for Africa.

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Re: Palm Wine In Islam by Praktikals(m): 4:41pm On Nov 24, 2017
cubzy:
I am an idiot for denying that rerrorism is permitted in islam?

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