OkaiCorne:


Not paying a lesser important "tithe" now makes me a goat...but giving to the poor and needy even makes me a bigger goat right?

Nice logic there...

where was it said here that you should not give to the poor or help the needy??

Jesusgirl92:
where was it said here that you should not give to the poor or help the needy??

Go and ask Analize701 who thinks I've committed a grave offence for not paying tithes (indebtedness to God)...without considering the fact that I happily give materially to the less privileged (lending to God).

I really don't understand how a Christian ends up prioritizing traditions over LOVE (for God and man) just like a Pharisee

OkaiCorne:


My dear...God is not a dog that is hungry for 10% of your money. The Law says give 10% through tithes...but let me tell you this, meet your needs and give back the rest to God. So if the rest is 95% after meeting your needs...give it back to God through giving to the Church and sacrificial giving to Humanity...

Can you operate by this standard set out by Jesus?...does Matthew 6 v 25 hold any importance to you?

Keep it coming, the real you is gradually emerging.

You had the temerity to put God and a dog in the same sentence?

I shd finish meeting my needs first then turn the left overs to God right? Good servant.

So you are saying in essence that God was a hungry dog when he commanded Levi to collect Tithe then, but He is no longer a hungry dog now that he has stopped collecting Tithe?

How does matt 6:25 apply here? Pls learn how to use scriptures.


I.would ve asked you a question, but it's a waste of time, you jump over them to talk about baseless issues.

analize701:

Keep it coming, the real you is gradually emerging.

You had the temerity to put God and a dog in the same sentence?

I shd finish meeting my needs first then turn the left overs to God right? Good servant.

So you are saying in essence that God was a hungry dog when he commanded Levi to collect Tithe then, but He is no longer a hungry dog now that he has stopped collecting Tithe?

How does matt 6:25 apply here? Pls learn how to use scriptures.


I.would ve asked you a question, but it's a waste of time, you jump over them, to talk baseless issues.

Do you understand how the Church model operated in the Acts of the Apostles...and in the book of Timothy?

Can you confidently beat your chest to say that the Church of today is doing that?

I wonder how at least 70% of your income automatically translates to left over...do you earn peanuts? Just be honest here...

If you are truly utilizing your God given talent...then you should not be in penury...or be giving God "left-overs" after your needs are met...or are you implying that you are not a fruitful fig tree?

OkaiCorne:


Go and ask Analize701 who thinks I've committed a grave offence for not paying tithes (indebtedness to God)...without considering the fact that I happily give materially to the less privileged (lending to God).

I really don't understand how a Christian ends up prioritizing traditions over LOVE (for God and man) just like a Pharisee

You asked a question, answer it. Why dodge it by bringing me into it? lolzzzzzzz. Guy is confused.

Who.said it's a crime to give to the poor? Jesus says so both, you called him dog and said you'd do as you choose.

OkaiCorne:


Not paying a lesser important "tithe" now makes me a goat...but giving to the poor and needy even makes me a bigger goat right?

Nice logic there...

The Scripture you brought up, albeit out of context indicted you.

You walk in disobedience yet are trying to justify your stance.

OkaiCorne:


Go and ask Analize701 who thinks I've committed a grave offence for not paying tithes (indebtedness to God)...without considering the fact that I happily give materially to the less privileged (lending to God).

I really don't understand how a Christian ends up prioritizing traditions over LOVE (for God and man) just like a Pharisee

You are trying to twist things.... But I won't flog this issue anymore.... Do whatever makes you happy make I dey pay my tithe dey go.... Everybody is happy. End of discussion.

analize701:

You asked a question, answer it. Why dodge it by bringing me into it? lolzzzzzzz. Guy is confused.

Who.said it's a crime to give to the poor? Jesus says so both, you called him dog and said you'd do as you choose.

I will clearly repeat this again...God is not a dog that is eager for 10% of your salary. If you think giving a piece of beef to someone who owns the Cattle on a thousand hills is a favor you are doing to the church...then you have missed it big time.

God wants your all...not a miserable 10%

Jesusgirl92:
You are trying to twist things.... But I won't flog this issue anymore.... Do whatever makes you happy make I dey pay my tithe dey go.... Everybody is happy. End of discussion.

How am I twisting things? Is it not the same Bible we are reading?

It's not about doing what makes you happy...that is where you are missing it;

Do it as the Holy Spirit leads and;

Have an incontestable scriptural backing for what you do.

Cheers

analize701:

The Scripture you brought up, albeit out of context indicted you.

You walk in disobedience yet are trying to justify your stance.

Kindly explain to my humble self and all of Nairaland how I have twisted the scripture out of context...or is it because it does not favor your tithing theories?

Are you trying to tell me that I'm following the instructions of Jesus but I'm disobedient? I'm really baffled at your conclusion.

I AM WAITING FOR YOUR EXPLANATIONS ON HOW FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS OF JESUS IS NOW A WALK IN DISOBEDIENCE...

OkaiCorne:


I will clearly repeat this again...God is not a dog that is eager for 10% of your salary. If you think giving a piece of beef to someone who owns the Cattle on a thousand hills is a favor you are doing to the church...then you have missed it big time.

God wants your all...not a miserable 10%

This servant of God has his stipulated ways he wants to.serve his God.

So, when he asked Levi to collect Tithe, he was hungry? Or Melchizedek whom Paul says is Jesus who collected Tithe from Abraham was hungry or ignorant?

Wait, was i the one whispered to God to collect Tithe in the first place?

Now, be serious, enough of this derailment. You have no an iota of an idea what my Op is about, you have rambled and pranced all over the thread trying to change the Op, i indulge you. Now, back to business.

You either treat the Op or let me be.

Jesusgirl92:
You are trying to twist things.... But I won't flog this issue anymore.... Do whatever makes you happy make I dey pay my tithe dey go.... Everybody is happy. End of discussion.

Exactly my dear. End of story. I have satisfactorily indulged him, now it's time to get serious. Anyone who comes in here must discuss the Op or get ignored.

analize701:

This servant of God has his stipulated ways he wants to.serve his God.

So, when he asked Levi to collect Tithe, he was hungry? Or Melchizedek whom Paul says is Jesus who collected Tithe from Abraham was hungry or ignorant?

Wait, was i the one whispered to God to collect Tithe in the first place?

Now, be serious, enough of this derailment. You have no an iota of an idea what my Op is about, you have rambled and pranced all over the thread trying to change the Op, i indulge you. Now, back to business.

You either treat the Op or let me be.

I have rambled and pranced after showing you Matthew 25 vs 31-40? My dear, you are not ready to accept the TRUTH....It seems you prefer to uphold an old testament tradition as opposed to the teachings of Jesus...

What is the summary of the long epistle in your OP that Matthew 25 vs 31-40 has not answered?

analize701:

Exactly my dear. End of story. I have satisfactorily indulged him, now it's time to get serious. Anyone who comes in here must discuss the Op or get ignored.

Nice dodging tactics from someone who thinks without tithes and offerings, the Church of God will shut down...

The truth will keep on staring in your face till you accept it wholeheartedly...

OkaiCorne:


I have rambled and pranced after showing you Matthew 25 vs 31-40. My dear, you are not ready to accept the TRUTH....It seems you prefer to uphold an old testament tradition as opposed to the teachings of Jesus...

What is the summary of the long epistle in your OP that Matthew 25 vs 31-40 has not answered?

Lolzzz. You have a problem with using scriptures. You pick scriptures completely out of context claiming you have made any point? instead you indicted yourself.

OkaiCorne:


Nice dodging tactics from someone who thinks without tithes and offerings, the Church of God will shut down...

The truth will keep on staring in your face till you accept it wholeheartedly...

Now, pls take me on based on my Op. Enough of the baseless arguments.

Why did Paul bring in the issue of Tithing in Hebrew 7?

analize701:

Lolzzz. You have a problem with using scriptures. You pick scriptures completely out of context claiming you have made any point? instead you indicted yourself.

Then show us the Scriptures that is in context that clearly states payment of tithes carries more weight than sacrificial giving na?

You've been shouting Hebrews 7 or Matthew 23 v 23 which others have been countering...so what exactly is your point?

OkaiCorne:


If what you are practising is Christianity and you think you are truly following Jesus...then I do not want to be a Christian.

The only reason I go to Church is Jesus. Take away Jesus from the Church and I have no business being there...

Are you really curious to know how I turned out this way?

Your speech betray you. You don't have the heart of a servant. You are a master over your life. You want to use common sense to follow Jesus. When he says go right, you consider it and decide to go left.

I'm not curious to know anything, because your words speaks volumes.

analize701:

Now, pls take me on based on my Op. Enough of the baseless arguments.

Why did Paul bring in the issue of Tithing in Hebrew 7?

I have read Hebrews 7 v 8 which states;
In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.

I also read;Hebrew 7 v 17-19

17 For it is declared:

“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”[a]
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless
19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

My dear, if you claim to Love God and Man...which is the basis of the new Covenant...you will see that tithing holds little importance compared to sacrificial giving to the less privileged.

Tithing is important...but check Matthew 25 v 31-40 and tell me if tithing is far more important than the words that came out of the mouth of Jesus that Paul is following as well.

OkaiCorne:

CNN newsreporter, I am a truthful person so I got nothing to deny.

God has no allegiance to any religion under Heaven... hence, I need no allegiance to any religion to serve Him.

God and Jesus is alright for me. I am no longer a part of any earthly institution that mixes TRUTH with lies to decieve people into doing the wrong things. Only the Serpent is the great deceiver. I am really afraid for the judgement coming for the Church,

May God help you Christians...

Okay, good riddance. Very soon i shall see you declaring for atheism. Imagine the kind of Christian you were, tomorrow you'd claim you were a strong Christian but no longer. hahahahahahahahaha.

A Christian who doesn't know how to use scriptures.

analize701:

Your speech betray you. You don't have the heart of a servant. You are a master over your life. You want to use common sense to follow Jesus. When he says go right, you consider it and decide to go left.

I'm not curious to know anything, because your words speaks volumes.

I told you that the Holy Spirit is my mentor and teacher...and you are here judging me that I am the master of my life. It's okay...I can see how people are really attracted to Christianity with this judgmental attitude of yours

It's good to correct...but judging me to be the master of my life is going too far. I hope you know God is taking records of this thing we are doing...and we would be held accountable for every words uttered...

KINDLY EXPLAIN TO ME HOW ADHERING TO THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS IS A WALK IN DISOBEDIENCE...BECAUSE I NO DEY PAY "TITHES" ABI?

analize701:

Okay, good riddance. Very soon i shall see you declaring for atheism. Imagine the kind of Christian you were, tomorrow you'd claim you were a strong Christian but no longer. hahahahahahahahaha.

A Christian who doesn't know how to use scriptures.

It's good to know that you'll be seated with God judging me on the last day right? Good riddance? that's very Christ like of you...keep it up

analize701:

Okay, good riddance. Very soon i shall see you declaring for atheism. Imagine the kind of Christian you were, tomorrow you'd claim you were a strong Christian but no longer. hahahahahahahahaha.

A Christian who doesn't know how to use scriptures.

You that knows how to use scriptures...kindly explain the wisdom in tithing when there are more critical things to do.

If the Holy Spirit has brought me thus far with the Scriptures and you claim I do not know how to use the Scriptures...do you know you are playing a very dangerous game with the Spirit of God?

You follow Jesus teachings but you're not a Christian.... I still don't understand o OkaiCorne... Explain biko... Who is a Christian first of all??

Jesusgirl92:
You follow Jesus teachings but you're not a Christian.... I still don't understand o OkaiCorne... Explain biko... Who is a Christian first of all??

Can you really tell me in your heart of heart that the church of today with numerous denominations and conflicting doctrines are following the teachings and principles of Jesus Christ 100%?

Can a blind man lead a blind man?

I am a follower of Christ...but I don't want to be tagged with the Christianity religion...a lot of things going on in there is very disgusting, and like Pilate...I wash off my hands and I'm not part of it.

1) Seventh Day Adeventists have their own doctrines
2) Jehovah witness have their own doctrines
3) Deeper life has their own doctrines
4) Numerous others with conflicting doctrines

IS THE CHURCH OF TODAY CONFUSED?

If I might ask, if you want me to be a Christian...which Church will you recommend and why? If you tell me it's the one you were birthed in..then most likely I'll be very disappointed. Which church has the right doctrine?

analize701:

Now, pls take me on based on my Op. Enough of the baseless arguments.

Why did Paul bring in the issue of Tithing in Hebrew 7?

To show the superiority of the Melchizedek priesthood over the levitical priesthood. That was the only reason. To show you that Levi even paid tithes through Abraham to Melchizedek. No where did it ask us to pay tithes to anyone in the order of Melchizedek neither did the Bible record any apostle receiving tithes in the order of Melchizedek. As clearly stated the sacrifices in the Melchizedek priesthood was done just ONCE

Jesusgirl92:
You follow Jesus teachings but you're not a Christian.... I still don't understand o OkaiCorne... Explain biko... Who is a Christian first of all??

A Christian is one who believes in Jesus and follows his teachings

PaChukwudi44:

A Christian is one who believes in Jesus and follows his teachings

I'd rather be a "Christian" by actions than Christian by mouth. Actions speaks louder than words.


Please ignore Jesusgirl92, because I'm still trying to figure out how this question relates to the main purpose of this thread being opened.

bloodofthelamb:


INCEST IS A SIN BECAUSE THE LAW OF GOD SAYS SO. BUT THE LAW CANNOT STOP US FROM SINNING.

At least one honest person speaks

OkaiCorne:


I'd rather be a "Christian" by actions than Christian by mouth. Actions speaks louder than words.


Please ignore Jesusgirl92, because I'm still trying to figure out how this question relates to the main purpose of this thread being opened.

PaChukwudi54 just told you who a Christian is... You say u follow Christ yet you DENY him by saying you are not a Christian. Is it not clear that you are CONFUSED?? Tell me... So people's actions are now your definition of who a Christian is instead of looking at the master (Jesus) himself... And you say you're being directed by the HolySpirit.... CONFUSION at its peak...

OkaiCorne:


Nice dodging there...so I guess tithing is of a weightier matter than where I'll put my head to sleep abi?

So you can’t sacrifice your house rent for a poor man in emergency ?.I thought you love the poor .

Can you please answer the question I asked you on tithing?

Which one? Kindly as again

Abi wisdom is no longer profitable to direct?

You don’t have to be silly

Is tithing your number 1 priority in life?

No it’s not . I give tithe , offerings , alms and seed unto God . All have to be done .
What about you ?

[quote author=petra1 post=62903934]

So you can’t sacrifice your house rent for a poor man in emergency ?.I thought you love the poor?[quote]@bolded... His house rent is more important than his love for the poor.... But when paying tithe is involved, you remember the poor... HYPOCRISY.