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Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by AloyEmeka5: 9:41pm On Apr 03, 2010
Friday, April 2, 2010
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The Lagos State Government has approved an increase of over 400 per cent in allowance to corps members posted to public schools and other government agencies in the state.



http://odili.net/news/source/2010/apr/2/826.html

The Chairman, Lagos State National Youth Service Corps Governing Board and Commissioner for Special Duties, Dr. Tola Kasali, disclosed that the state governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, had approved N15, 000 as allowance for corps members serving in public schools, while those posted to other government agencies would get N10, 000.

Before now, corps members serving in public schools in the state were being paid a paltry sum of N3, 500 while those in other government agencies were paid less.

Speaking at the closing ceremony of the orientation course for the 2010 Batch 'A' corps members deployed to the state on Tuesday, Kasali said the approved allowance would be paid to the corps members with immediate effect.

Kasali, whose speech was read by the Director of Finance and Administration, Ministry of Special Duties, Mr. Nurudeen Salami, stated that the gesture was meant to motivate corps members that would be teaching in public schools, to make them comfortable so that they would concentrate on the students in the next one year and see them as their younger brothers and sisters.

He advised the corps members to make good use of the training opportunity on how to enlighten and educate school children on the danger of engaging in indiscriminate sex and the need for total abstinence from sex as the best way to reduce the spread of HIV/AIDS in the country.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by snowdrops(m): 9:42pm On Apr 03, 2010
Now thats is one massive increase. Good on them. Afterall Lagos state can afford it.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by naijamini(m): 9:49pm On Apr 03, 2010
Can you imagine that in a country where a senator is taking millions home every month, excluding other benefits (and bribes) - a university graduate is handed less that N4,000 for any job at all. Even if they get free housing that is no excuse.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by AloyEmeka5: 9:54pm On Apr 03, 2010
naijamini:

Can you imagine that in a country where a senator is taking millions home every month, excluding other benefits (and bribes) - a university graduate is handed less that N4,000 for any job at all. Even if they get free housing that is no excuse.

Life has never been fair by a long short.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by snowdrops(m): 9:55pm On Apr 03, 2010
naijamini:

Can you imagine that in a country where a senator is taking millions home every month, excluding other benefits (and bribes) - a university graduate is handed less that N4,000 for any job at all. Even if they get free housing that is no excuse.
[/quote[b]The fact one is a university graduate should not gaurantee automatic high paying white collar job.
I believe your statement is a bit overstated as a good number of those graduates earn far more than N4000 when they start working full time.
Afterall one has to start from somewhere[/b]
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by naijamini(m): 10:06pm On Apr 03, 2010
@snowdrops

I am not refering to what they make full-time or not, I am talking about the DISPARITY.

Focus dear friend, millions of Naira for one political office holder (excluding egunjes), N4,000 for a graduate - thus Nigeria is in ruins.

If you employ a graduate, especially because of his qualifications, part time or not, you cannot hand him N4,000 per month. He must really be in bad luck to accept it or HAVE NO CHOICE, like being in the NYSC! That is why you are never going to get true commitment from NYSC members.

You are not saying NYSC members are working part time and don't deserve living wages, right?

N4,000 is how many bottles of coke compared with meeting a single person's expenses for one month.

snowdrops:

The fact one is a university graduate should not gaurantee automatic high paying white collar job.
I believe your statement is a bit overstated as a good number of those graduates earn far more than N4000 when they start working full time.
Afterall one has to start from somewhere
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by bibiking1(m): 11:16pm On Apr 03, 2010
naijamini:

@snowdrops

I am not refering to what they make full-time or not, I am talking about the DISPARITY.

Focus dear friend, millions of Naira for one political office holder (excluding egunjes), N4,000 for a graduate - thus Nigeria is in ruins.

If you employ a graduate, especially because of his qualifications, part time or not, you cannot hand him N4,000 per month. He must really be in bad luck to accept it or HAVE NO CHOICE, like being in the NYSC! That is why you are never going to get true commitment from NYSC members.

You are not saying NYSC members are working part time and don't deserve living wages, right?

N4,000 is how many bottles of coke compared with meeting a single person's expenses for one month.



That would make a lovely medium of exchange,,,hehehe
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by DeepSoul(f): 11:27pm On Apr 03, 2010
naijamini:

@snowdrops

I am not refering to what they make full-time or not, I am talking about the DISPARITY.

N4,000 is how many bottles of coke compared with meeting a single person's expenses for one month.

The disparity is alarmingly unbelievable.

N4,000 = 80 Bottles of coke (3 crates + 8 extra bottles).

N4,000 = N1,000 per week

N1,000 per week = less than $1 a day.

And these are people who live far away from home.

Do we still applaud??
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by honeric01(m): 11:36pm On Apr 03, 2010
Nysc was not founded for money making so why are some comparing the pay with a full time job? Though i don't even buy the idea but it was created for selfless service to your fatherland.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by DeepSoul(f): 11:46pm On Apr 03, 2010
honeric01:

Nysc was not founded for money making so why are some comparing the pay with a full time job? Though i don't even buy the idea but it was created for selfless service to your fatherland.

The primary obejctive isn't to make money, yes. But the government should atleast be able to provide enough to take care of basic needs which >$1 won't do!

If it's all about selflessness, then is shdnt be made mandatory. It shd become optional. You don't force anyone to be "selfless", do you?
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by honeric01(m): 11:59pm On Apr 03, 2010
They made it mandatory imo because we all know nigerians won't do anything for free, you know it and i know it, if it was volunteerily, how many do you think will serve with the way we all chase money starting from our mother's womb?
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by AloyEmeka5: 1:28am On Apr 04, 2010
honeric01:

Nysc was not founded for money making so why are some comparing the pay with a full time job? Though i don't even buy the idea but it was created for selfless service to your fatherland.

True but the govt needs to pay them enough to survive on.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by naijamini(m): 4:09am On Apr 04, 2010
@honeric01
Nobody is comparing it to a full time job - just that if you are going to conscript someone you shoudl take care of them, not make them slaves.

The problem is that the NYSC, while built on laudable objectives, should be voluntary and well provided for. That way the government can say each year we only have space for 100 this year, 1000 the next or 1 billion (because we found money on Mars). You take as many as you can use and care for. Right now people are being forced to do what they don't want to do, in places they don't want to go or is dangerous for them. Those with enough connections has turned it into a sham, where postings are arranged rather than accepted. Can't blame them though, no parent wants to raise a kid all this time and have him/her cut down senselessly or wasted for a year.

The incentive should be that voluntary national service is a plus when you wish to be in public office. If you checked it, a lot of those collecting millions of Naira from Abuja today "did not really" do their national service, others enjoyed doing their part.

Mandatory service, especially for as long as a year, should be for building a reserve army, but we know who are afraid of such a progressive idea.

By the way, was the National Assembly founded for money-making? If not, we should just tell them to make laws by feeding on air and living in tents on the grass of the National Assembly.

honeric01:

Nysc was not founded for money making so why are some comparing the pay with a full time job? Though i don't even buy the idea but it was created for selfless service to your fatherland.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by naijamini(m): 4:15am On Apr 04, 2010
@honeric01
And of what use to you is dragging a horse that has decided not to drink water to the river. You are the one that would be left huffing and puffing, and needing water.

honeric01:

They made it mandatory imo because we all know nigerians won't do anything for free, you know it and i know it, if it was volunteerily, how many do you think will serve with the way we all chase money starting from our mother's womb?
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by AloyEmeka5: 5:47am On Apr 04, 2010
naijamini:



The incentive should be that voluntary national service is a plus when you wish to be in public office. If you checked it, a lot of those collecting millions of Naira from Abuja today "did not really" do their national service, others enjoyed doing their part.





So true.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by honeric01(m): 5:32pm On Apr 04, 2010
Aloy+Emeka:

True but the govt needs to pay them enough to survive on.

Yes the money is small but then they should not make the pay the basis of their serving, they can't be paid money they'd survive on because we know that human want is insatiable, they have parents, don't they? so it's not the money NYSC is going to pay them that would make them survive, if they were able to pass through Nigerian school without dropping out, then you'd know that the govt can't really pay them the amount most of them would want.


naijamini:

@honeric01
Nobody is comparing it to a full time job - just that if you are going to conscript someone you shoudl take care of them, not make them slaves.


Mandatory service, especially for as long as a year, should be for building a reserve army, but we know who are afraid of such a progressive idea.

By the way, was the National Assembly founded for money-making? If not, we should just tell them to make laws by feeding on air and living in tents on the grass of the National Assembly.


you're still mixing up full time job with a volunteer job, they ain't the same, compare non-profit organization with NYSC and we'd debate it.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by DeepSoul(f): 6:01pm On Apr 04, 2010
honeric01:

Yes the money is small but then they should not make the pay the basis of their serving, they can't be paid money they'd survive on because we know that human want is insatiable, they have parents, don't they? so it's not the money NYSC is going to pay them that would make them survive, if they were able to pass through Nigerian school without dropping out, then you'd know that the govt can't really pay them the amount most of them would want.

U sef. How many people do you know who went thru University did so @ d expense of their parents? I know loads and loads of pple that could barely make it thru school. Not every1 is fortunate to have parents! When I was in d university, I know a girl who worked part time in Mr. Biggs just to make it through, I know another who worked at a bar. And those are the fortunate ones!

Anyway jare, are you up for Scrabble? wink
If you are, hit me on ISC!
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by honeric01(m): 7:32pm On Apr 04, 2010
Deep Soul:

U sef. How many people do you know who went thru University did so @ d expense of their parents? I know loads and loads of pple that could barely make it thru school. Not every1 is fortunate to have parents! When I was in d university, I know a girl who worked part time in Mr. Biggs just to make it through, I know another who worked at a bar. And those are the fortunate ones!

Anyway jare, are you up for Scrabble? wink
If you are, hit me on ISC!


yea, i know, but 1 year to serve your nation is not too much even though the money is small, we shouldn't do it because of the money, rather because of the experience you can never exchange for money.

yea i am online now, you want your arse get kicked? undecided
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by naijamini(m): 8:08pm On Apr 04, 2010
@honeric01
You are yet to show me the volunteer job.

honeric01:

you're still mixing up full time job with a volunteer job, they ain't the same, compare non-profit organization with NYSC and we'd debate it.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by honeric01(m): 8:11pm On Apr 04, 2010
naijamini:

@honeric01
You are yet to show me the volunteer job.

you're still mixing up full time job with a volunteer job, they ain't the same, compare non-profit organization with NYSC and we'd debate it.
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Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by naijamini(m): 8:22pm On Apr 04, 2010
@honeric01
May be you are blind of reading  cheesy Sorry, I just couldn't resist, didn't mean any insult.

I already compared the NYSC to a non-profit organization ---- wait for it -----  OUR NATIONAL ASSEMBLY. Much closer to the NYSC than any private, non-profit organization you can find. Now you tell me why they get to keep millions each month and live in priviledged quarters, while doing close to nothing (okay so that's an exaggeration, sue me).

honeric01:

you're still mixing up full time job with a volunteer job, they ain't the same, compare non-profit organization with NYSC and we'd debate it.

Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by Kobojunkie: 8:23pm On Apr 04, 2010
I say Kudos to the government on this!! I can't imagine how educated person can survive and GROW on less than N5000 a month, free accomodation or none.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by honeric01(m): 8:40pm On Apr 04, 2010
naijamini:


I already compared the NYSC to a non-profit organization ---- wait for it -----  OUR NATIONAL ASSEMBLY. Much closer to the NYSC than any private, non-profit organization you can find. Now you tell me why they get to keep millions each month and live in priviledged quarters, while doing close to nothing (okay so that's an exaggeration, sue me).


you must be joking, tell me you are comparing the national assembly with NYSC, one of the qualifications to work in the national assemble is NYSC so why should you compare both? why not compare the position of the president too, or maybe the position of the judges of the federation of Nigeria.

good comparison should be orphanage home, school for the blind and so on, most of these people that work there do it for the love and passion first before the pay they get, so why should corp be looking for 100k per month? i hope you know that no amount you'd give to a graduate that would dim fit and okay for our money hungry citizens. this is not a permanent job so they should cut us some slacks.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by naijamini(m): 8:50pm On Apr 04, 2010
@honeric01

I never brought up the non-profit comparison, you did, so don't blame me if it doesn't support your argument. The National Assembly is a non-profit organization. I will play along - if someone volunteers to work at orphanages, does that mean they don't get living wages. I don't know how much they earn, since you brought it up you find out, then others can verify for us.

My whole point from the begining is that you should not hand any graduate N3,500 per month, no matter what he is engaged in - its either he/she is desperate or has no choice than to accept it, like in the NYSC. I compared it to the National Assembly because both are really supposed to be selfless National Service. Being a judge is not national service, it is a professional job, politics may be what you do, but nobody trains you for it, you volunteer, campaign and may get elected once you meet certain criteria, as should be the case for any job.

Enough said.

honeric01:

you must be joking, tell me you are comparing the national assembly with NYSC, one of the qualifications to work in the national assemble is NYSC so why should you compare both? why not compare the position of the president too, or maybe the position of the judges of the federation of Nigeria.

good comparison should be orphanage home, school for the blind and so on, most of these people that work there do it for the love and passion first before the pay they get, so why should corp be looking for 100k per month? i hope you know that no amount you'd give to a graduate that would dim fit and okay for our money hungry citizens. this is not a permanent job so they should cut us some slacks.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by honeric01(m): 9:00pm On Apr 04, 2010
^^^^^^

Guy, for 'God's sake, this is not a job, it's just like a place where you go to learn about random things, that's what NYSC means, it's not anything you're making it look like, it's for people to get acquainted with places they have never been to, live with people they'd never have lived with, teach,work,train younger ones, impact what they went to school for into these young ones, it's not for money purpose so for the money to have been increased to 15k means the government of each state already know about the small pay issue.


for once, let Nigerians put passion first before pocket.

I rest my case.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by ReachRich(m): 9:13pm On Apr 04, 2010
honeric01:

^^^^^^

Guy, for 'God's sake, this is not a job, it's just like a place where you go to learn about random things, that's what NYSC means, it's not anything you're making it look like, it's for people to get acquainted with places they have never been to, live with people they'd never have lived with, teach,work,train younger ones, impact what they went to school for into these young ones, it's not for money purpose so for the money to have been increased to 15k means the government of each state already know about the small pay issue.


for once, let Nigerians put passion first before pocket.

I rest my case.
U need to compare the amount paid to corpers with the economic situation on ground.A corper who receives N15k/month has has to feed,pay for transport,buy clothes,buy airtime, pay for other sundry expences and probably save for the rainy day.How can one do all these with a paltry 15k?Our problem in 9ja is that there is so much money at the centre thats why u see every Tom,Dick and Harry jostling to occupy one position or the other in Abj.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by ReachRich(m): 9:20pm On Apr 04, 2010
Up till today,our civil servants receive a minimum wage of N5,500 whereas our senator take up to N2.4m/month plus other allowances.Some of them dont even have a university degree.Do these Senators have 2 heads?Our leaders are insensitive to the desires of the citizens who elected them into office.Otherwise corpers shouldnt get anything less than N40,000/month.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by honeric01(m): 9:39pm On Apr 04, 2010
ReachRich:

U need to compare the amount paid to corpers with the economic situation on ground.A corper who receives N15k/month has has to feed,pay for transport,buy clothes,buy airtime, pay for other sundry expences and probably save for the rainy day.How can one do all these with a paltry 15k?Our problem in 9ja is that there is so much money at the centre thats why u see every Tom,manliness and Harry jostling to occupy one position or the other in Abj.

yes the money is small, but it's just what they have to do for 1 year, after 1 year, they can go ahead and work in the oil firms or anywhere that pays huge money, it's a yearly thing and[size=14pt] i heard that the government is about to start giving out 250k to any corper that wants to go solo after service, i am trying to dig out the news, i heard it on TV but it should be on paper too (maybe still being debated in the national assembly, not really 100% sure if it has been confirmed)[/size]
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by ReachRich(m): 9:56pm On Apr 04, 2010
All am saying is that our governmnent should increase the corpers pay to about N40,000 so that they can save and probably start up a trade or better still enroll for their MSc at the end of their service year instead of travelling up and down the country insearch of non existent jobs.Afterall the same government is encouraging the graduates to go into enterpreneurship so how would they do this without funds.
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by gidson12(m): 10:47pm On Apr 04, 2010
Good news federal government should follow suit
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by Nobody: 11:00pm On Apr 04, 2010
lagosians see your tax naira at work!!!

oya calling on all corpers to take on the fashola detractors cheesy
Re: Corps Members In Lagos Get 400% Pay Rise by Kobojunkie: 11:20pm On Apr 04, 2010
oyb:

lagosians see your tax naira at work!!!

oya calling on all corpers to take on the fashola detractors cheesy

Oh blimey!!!! lol ,

I hope the corpers don't turn into "MINDLESS" For_Fashola Drones as a result. I believe it is good development and sort of different from many previous moves in that this actually puts money back in the hands of people. By doing so, it increases their ability to fend for themselves and essentially help in job creation. I am for anything that helps lift people out of poverty and I think such an increase(hoping there will be more down the road) will go a long way in helping lift graduates above the poverty line, and helping improve the quality of our workforce in the end. A Better paid CORP member is better able to deliver on the job.

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