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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by smellingmenses: 9:56pm On Mar 08, 2018
DIKE WAS AND IS STILL A STAIN ON THE DISTINCT XTER OF UI... A STAIN THAT HAS BEEN UTTERLY CORRECTED.

Adelaide2:


Accommodating in the 1950s and 60s? You are a joker. Please just state the facts how these people became the head of just post colonial institutions in Nigeria versus Dike of UI
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Throwback: 9:57pm On Mar 08, 2018
Adelaide2:


Just tell me how Dike, Njoku and the other guy (still trying to remember his name) were unqualified to be rectors of UI, Unilag and Yabatech, respectively.

This debate has been exhausted conclusively on another thread.

I have no interest in who became the first Nigerian head of a higher college that Yorubas rejected from the British as a sorry excuse for their demand for a full fledged university education.

As for Dike, I have already detailed how he got his appointment by Igbo merit. ENI Njoku was also appointed by the NPC/NCNC coalition that was in government at that time in 1960.

Njoku was Igbo, and an Azikiwe was Governor General/Ceremonial President.

The most qualified Igbo gets the nod in typical Azikiwe and NCNC fashion.

Or do you also insist that Kenneth dike was more qualified than his senior colleague and first African professor Oladele Ajose, in University College Ibadan?

Dike was called back from his sabbatical in the USA, to come resume as Vice-Principal, in a bid to ensure he eventually became Principal soon. The Igbo agenda was then unveiled when they conducted their first recruitment after the departure of the British.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by revolt(m): 10:21pm On Mar 08, 2018
Throwback:


Yes Prof Biobaku was stabbed by a single Yoruba student who ended his life in a psychiatric home.

He was a Yoruba like Ademoyega, Banjo and Fajuyi, who were not like their tribalist Igbo friends.
the first mayor of Enugu was from where?!!! The first coup plotters planned to install who?!! Which ppl, go to other lands, learn their language and assimilate way of life ?!! Dude pls keep quiet there drop ur revisionist antics

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by revolt(m): 5:49am On Mar 09, 2018
Throwback:


Yes Prof Biobaku was stabbed by a single Yoruba student who ended his life in a psychiatric home.

He was a Yoruba like Ademoyega, Banjo and Fajuyi, who were not like their tribalist Igbo friends.
which psychiatrist home?! You revisionists can cook up tales. Anyways it wasn't a single Yoruba that protested. The students violently protested and security forces were brought in. That's how u guys hve been rewriting history, but are quick to expunge it from our curriculum because with proper research the truth will emerge.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by revolt(m): 5:54am On Mar 09, 2018
Throwback:


This debate has been exhausted conclusively on another thread.

I have no interest in who became the first Nigerian head of a higher college that Yorubas rejected from the British as a sorry excuse for their demand for a full fledged university education.

As for Dike, I have already detailed how he got his appointment by Igbo merit. ENI Njoku was also appointed by the NPC/NCNC coalition that was in government at that time in 1960.

Njoku was Igbo, and an Azikiwe was Governor General/Ceremonial President.

The most qualified Igbo gets the nod in typical Azikiwe and NCNC fashion.

Or do you also insist that Kenneth dike was more qualified than his senior colleague and first African professor Oladele Ajose, in University College Ibadan?

Dike was called back from his sabbatical in the USA, to come resume as Vice-Principal, in a bid to ensure he eventually became Principal soon. The Igbo agenda was then unveiled when they conducted their first recruitment after the departure of the British.
dike was so unqualified , he moved to Harvard .how many u.i vcs after him excel outside u.I?

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by revolt(m): 5:58am On Mar 09, 2018
smellingmenses:
ON THE CLAIM THAT YORUBA ARE BAD MANAGERS... WE KNOW THAT INNOSON WHO ALLEGEDLY FORGED PAPERS IS YORUBA AIN'T IT?
CC
THROWBACK
inoson is a proven tested biz man,( His plastic, motorcycle, hospitality enterprises funded the kickoff of the car assembly which is a very difficult task in nigeria.), tht built his his from scratch. I dare you to mention on Yoruba mogul whose wealth isn't connected to oil, or fg contracts or state govt contracts.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 6:04am On Mar 09, 2018
revolt:
inoson is a proven tested biz man,( His plastic, motorcycle, hospitality enterprises funded the kickoff of the car assembly which is a very difficult task in nigeria.), tht built his his from scratch. I dare you to mention on Yoruba mogul whose wealth isn't connected to oil, or fg contracts or state govt contracts.
So many than your dizzy mind can comprehend. Do proper research.

Innoson's issue is like an open wound. How can he forge clearance papers?
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by revolt(m): 6:20am On Mar 09, 2018
angels09:

So many than your dizzy mind can comprehend. Do proper research.

Innoson's issue is like an open wound. How can he forge clearance papers?
oga mention one notable one that's not connected to oil money or state funds. Innoson started from scrstcj and built an empire. I'm sure this isn't what will bring down his biz.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 6:31am On Mar 09, 2018
revolt:
oga mention one notable one that's not connected to oil money or state funds. Innoson started from scrstcj and built an empire. I'm sure this isn't what will bring down his biz.
Which of his biz? The forgery one as alleged by GT bank?
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Throwback: 8:21am On Mar 09, 2018
revolt:
dike was so unqualified , he moved to Harvard .how many u.i vcs after him excel outside u.I?

Was he also made Principal/VC of Harvard to confirm that he was the most eligible professor to head a university? No he was not.

Was his academic work as a historian so groundbreaking that he was worthy of a role in Harvard as a professor that he already was found worthy too in Ibadan, but that was not enough to become Principal in Harvard as the Igbos were not in charge of the school council?

So have you now proven that the less qualified Dike who was the senior African historian in Ibadan, as such the senior African professor of history, was by default the must qualified to become Principal of the whole school when he did, just because he later went on to Harvard to have the same job he already had in Ibadan as just a professor of his own academic field and not Harvard Principal?

Was it ever in contention that he was not qualified to be a professor of history?

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Throwback: 8:45am On Mar 09, 2018
revolt:
which psychiatrist home?! You revisionists can cook up tales. Anyways it wasn't a single Yoruba that protested. The students violently protested and security forces were brought in. That's how u guys hve been rewriting history, but are quick to expunge it from our curriculum because with proper research the truth will emerge.

Kayode Adams was not a "students attacker", but a single "student attacker" of Prof Biobaku, who was stabbed by Kayode in the back as he addressed the university community.

He pleaded insanity in court and was confined to a psychiatric home for his conviction term and rusticated from school. He was found dead a few years later, drowned by the sea shore.

Why was Eni Njoku unable to return as Principal for a 2nd term at University of Lagos?

1. Because the Igbo instrument of Nepotism and Tribalism, the NCNC, had been unable to manage their alliance with the NPC, especially after the disputed 1964 parliamentary elections that eventually delayed the forming of a government by Azikiwe after his initial refusal. This did not go down well with the North and Prime Minister Tafawa Balewa.

2. Akintola had awakened the Yorubas to what the Igbos were doing right on Yoruba soil by employment of Nepotism and Tribalism to fill federal government positions. Akintola then began to liaise with the North to get Yorubas what they deserve from the federal government. Tafawa Balewa woke up from his prior indifference to Igbos dominating the federal space in an illiterate North/Educated East alliance.

There was no way the federal government would allow their partner Azikiwe and his NCNC party continue with the unrestrained nepotism and tribalism that was so evident to all.

Akintola would be mortally hated for bringing the Igbo version of meritocracy to the spotlight. He would be denied his life for daring to be an obstacle to Igbo greed.


While the North has always been painted bad to the rest of the South, the Igbos had always been willing partners to ensure their own benefit. Same happened with their partnership with Shagari in 1979.

Yet they claim Yorubas are the weak link in the South who fraternize with the Northern enemy.

Even in 1993, the Igbos largely voted for Bashir Tofa who had an Igbo vice, rather than vote for Abiola who was a Southerner running for the presidency itself. Yet same Igbos would lament that Yorubas chose to betray the South by voting Buhari instead of Jonathan in 2015, because Buhari had a Yoruba vice. They quickly forgot that same Jonathan had been voted by Yorubas in 2011 despite that same Buhari also had a same Yoruba Pastor, Tunde Bakare then. Then they hypocritically forgot that they also voted to be vice president in 1993 with a Northern Bashir Tofa, rather than having a Southern Abiola as President.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 8:55am On Mar 09, 2018
Throwback:


Kayode Adams was not a "students attacker", but a single "student attacker" of Prof Biobaku, who was stabbed by Kayode in the back as he addressed the university community.

He pleaded insanity in court and was confined to a psychiatric home for his conviction term and rusticated from school. He was found dead a few years later, drowned by the sea shore.

Why was Eni Njoku unable to return as Principal for a 2nd term at University of Lagos?

1. Because the Igbo instrument of Nepotism and Tribalism, the NCNC, had been unable to manage their alliance with the NPC, especially after the disputed 1964 parliamentary elections that eventually delayed the forming of a government by Azikiwe after his initial refusal. This did not go down well with the North and Prime Minister Tafawa Balewa.

2. Akintola had awakened the Yorubas to what the Igbos were doing right on Yoruba soil by employment of Nepotism and Tribalism to fill federal government positions. Akintola then began to liaise with the North to get Yorubas what they deserve from the federal government. Tafawa Balewa woke up from his prior indifference to Igbos dominating the federal space in an illiterate North/Educated East alliance.

There was no way the federal government would allow their partner Azikiwe and his NCNC party continue with the unrestrained nepotism and tribalism that was so evident to all.

Akintola would be mortally hated for bringing the Igbo version of meritocracy to the spotlight. He would be denied his life for daring to be an obstacle to Igbo greed.


While the North has always been painted bad to the rest of the South, the Igbos had always been willing partners to ensure their own benefit. Same happened with their partnership with Shagari in 1979.

Yet they claim Yorubas are the weak link in the South who fraternize with the Northern enemy.

Even in 1993, the Igbos largely voted for Bashir Tofa who had an Igbo vice, rather than vote for Abiola who was a Southerner running for the presidency itself. Yet same Igbos would lament that Yorubas chose to betray the South by voting Buhari instead of Jonathan in 2015, because Buhari had a Yoruba vice. They quickly forgot that same Jonathan had been voted by Yorubas in 2011 despite that same Buhari also had a same Yoruba Pastor, Tunde Bakare then. Then they hypocritically forgot that they also voted to be vice president in 1993 with a Northern Bashir Tofa, rather than having a Southern Abiola as President.

Well said
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by revolt(m): 2:39pm On Mar 09, 2018
Throwback:


Kayode Adams was not a "students attacker", but a single "student attacker" of Prof Biobaku, who was stabbed by Kayode in the back as he addressed the university community.

He pleaded insanity in court and was confined to a psychiatric home for his conviction term and rusticated from school. He was found dead a few years later, drowned by the sea shore.

Why was Eni Njoku unable to return as Principal for a 2nd term at University of Lagos?

1. Because the Igbo instrument of Nepotism and Tribalism, the NCNC, had been unable to manage their alliance with the NPC, especially after the disputed 1964 parliamentary elections that eventually delayed the forming of a government by Azikiwe after his initial refusal. This did not go down well with the North and Prime Minister Tafawa Balewa.

2. Akintola had awakened the Yorubas to what the Igbos were doing right on Yoruba soil by employment of Nepotism and Tribalism to fill federal government positions. Akintola then began to liaise with the North to get Yorubas what they deserve from the federal government. Tafawa Balewa woke up from his prior indifference to Igbos dominating the federal space in an illiterate North/Educated East alliance.

There was no way the federal government would allow their partner Azikiwe and his NCNC party continue with the unrestrained nepotism and tribalism that was so evident to all.

Akintola would be mortally hated for bringing the Igbo version of meritocracy to the spotlight. He would be denied his life for daring to be an obstacle to Igbo greed.


While the North has always been painted bad to the rest of the South, the Igbos had always been willing partners to ensure their own benefit. Same happened with their partnership with Shagari in 1979.

Yet they claim Yorubas are the weak link in the South who fraternize with the Northern enemy.

Even in 1993, the Igbos largely voted for Bashir Tofa who had an Igbo vice, rather than vote for Abiola who was a Southerner running for the presidency itself. Yet same Igbos would lament that Yorubas chose to betray the South by voting Buhari instead of Jonathan in 2015, because Buhari had a Yoruba vice. They quickly forgot that same Jonathan had been voted by Yorubas in 2011 despite that same Buhari also had a same Yoruba Pastor, Tunde Bakare then. Then they hypocritically forgot that they also voted to be vice president in 1993 with a Northern Bashir Tofa, rather than having a Southern Abiola as President.
here we go with another revisionism. Akintola was a minion of ahmadu bello and was the opposition and tool they used in kicking awolowos AG out of the western helm of affairs. The north was preaching anti Igbo sentiments and akintola in trying to play solidarity, championed that campaign of calumny in the west. He was responsible for the expulsion of the Igbo lecturers in the west. Somehow you make it look like ALL lecturers were igbo., which is a blatant lie. Akintola introduced violence in politics of the west and connived to jail awolowo, who was struggling to maintain his influence in the west. The students protested the imoosition of prof biobaku, and the security forces were called in to save the situation. The school was closed till calm returned. These revisionist antics won't work. Forget it

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by smellingmenses: 4:33pm On Mar 09, 2018
tales by moonlight...

revolt:
here we go with another revisionism. Akintola was a minion of ahmadu bello and was the opposition and tool they used in kicking awolowos AG out of the western helm of affairs. The north was preaching anti Igbo sentiments and akintola in trying to play solidarity, championed that campaign of calumny in the west. He was responsible for the expulsion of the Igbo lecturers in the west. Somehow you make it look like ALL lecturers were igbo., which is a blatant lie. Akintola introduced violence in politics of the west and connived to jail awolowo, who was struggling to maintain his influence in the west. The students protested the imoosition of prof biobaku, and the security forces were called in to save the situation. The school was closed till calm returned. These revisionist antics won't work. Forget it
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 9:57pm On Mar 09, 2018
Nairaland has gone to the ‘dogs’ with no modicum of intelligence.

Ajose & Dike’s matter should not be up for debate at all. Anybody with brains should wonder and ask why Kenneth Dike who was still a Post Graduate student at the time Ajose was already a full professor was made a VC over Ajose, a most senior and very qualified professor at the time.

Stupidity & outright mental corrosion are the reasons why people are trying to find different arguments as to why such abominable appointment was done. These are also the reasons why people do not know or care to know how things work in the academia but continue to push the narratives of Dike’s ‘CV’.

If appointments to VCship were about accomplishments, then Soyinka would have been a VC; Olukoju the first abd only authority in maritime History in Africa would be a VC in Unilag; Akinrinade a first class graduate of History & a top commonwealth Historian well known in the UK would have been a VC in OAU.

Appointments are never about groundbreaking accomplishments but years spent at the certain cadre level. So the argument about Dike’s celebrated position as a Historian is not only wrong but very uneducated. Dike’s position became celebrated much later. Dike may have been the poster-boy of African Historiography but there were much better Historians than he was who really ‘built’ the Ibadan School of History but I won’t speak further on the man’s achievement.

The ‘koko’ here now is, since the academia has a rule of appointing senior colleagues into offices of HOD, Dean, Provost & VC. How and why was Dike, a PG student in 1946 appointed over Ajose, a Professor in 1948?

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by honeychild(f): 7:38pm On Mar 24, 2018
Throwback:
Meanwhile no one has had the courage to take up my challenge above that is a mission impossible.

Even on the other thread that I first made the challenge, my Igbo debater has surrendered and run for cover.

Just 10 names each in the field of Medicine and Law, before the year 1900.

Hmmm...you dey go far. 1900 loun loun. My igbo husband (a man in his thirties) is the first university graduate in his entire extended family grin grin

Meanwhile my entire father's generation were all graduates. My uncles are professors, doctors lawyers. There is nothing any of us in my generation want to achieve academically that someone in our family has not done before. In fact my grandfather was educated.

When these people on nairaland talk about Igbo's being ahead academically in the 50s and 60s I just shake my head.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by jzun: 6:44pm On Sep 20, 2018
Adelaide2:
A few Igbo firsts in Nigeria

The first Black Vice Chancellor of the University of Ibadan was an Igbo man named Professor Kenneth Dike.
•The first Vice Chancellor of the University of Lagos was an Igbo man named Professor Eni Njoku.
•The first Nigerian Rector of the then Yaba College of Technology was also an Igbo man
The first Nigerian Professor of Mathematics was an Igbo man named Professor Chike Obi – the man who solved Fermat’s Last Theorem. He was followed by another Igbo man named Professor James Ezeilo, Professor of Differential Calculus and the founder of the Ezeilo Constant.
The first Nigerian professor of history was an Igbo man Professor Kenneth Dike who also became the first black vice chancellor of the University of Ibadan.
The first Nigerian Professor of Botany was an Igbo man named Professor Eni Njoku. He went on to become the very first vice chancellor of the university of LAGOS.
The first Nigerian Professor of Anatomy and Physiology is Professor Chike Edozien an Igbo man who is also the current Obi of Asaba.
The first Nigerian Professor of Physics was Professor Okoye an Igbo man who became a Professor of Physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, USA in 1960. He was followed by the likes of Professor Alexander Anumalu who has been nominated for the Nobel Prize for Physics three times for his research in Intermediate Quantum Physics.
In Nuclear Physics and Chemistry – again another Igbo man – Professor Frank Ndili who gained a Ph.D in his early ’20s at Cambridge Univesity in Nuclear Physics and Chemistry in the early ’60s. This young Asaba man had made a First Class in Physics and Mathematics at the then University College Ibadan in the early ’50s.
First Professor of Statistics – Professor Adichie who’s research on Non-Parametric Statistics led to new areas in statistical research.
What about the first Nigerian Professor of Medicine – Professor Kodilinye – he was appointed a Professor of Medicine at the University of London in 1952. He later became the Vice Chancellor of the University of Nigeria Nsukka after the war.
What about Astronomy – again another Igbo man was the first Professor of Astronomy – please, look up Professor Ntukoju – he was the first to earn a double Ph.D in Astronomy and Mathematics.
Let’s go to the Social Sciences – Demography and statistical research into population studies – again another Igbo man – Professor Okonjo who set up the first Centre for Population Research in Ibadan in the early ’60s. A double Ph.D in Mathematics and Economics.
Philosophy – Professor G D Okafor, who became a Professor of Philosophy at the Amherst College USA in 1953.
Economics – Dr. Pius Okigbo who became a visiting scholar and Professor of Economics at the University of London in 1954. He is also the first Nigerian Ph.D in Economics.
Theology and theological research – Professor Njoku who became the first Nigerian to earn a Ph.D in Theology from Queens University Belfast in Ireland. He was appointed a Professor of Theology at the University College Zambia in 1952.

All were appointment made by the ruling coalition of the Igbo dominated NCNC and the Hausa/fulani NPC.

When in 2015 Buhari said he was going to give Igbos only 5% of appointments . They shouted blue murder but in 1960 they frustrated out many Yorubas by promoting there juniors over their head.

At University college Ibadan; Professor Ajose was the first black man on the board/council of the school and tghe automatic choice for first VC. He was sidelined because he was Yoruba. He left after University of Ife was created and went to become i8t's first VC.Note that Dike was so Junior to Ajose, it was like making a captain in the army commandant over a colonel. Igbos are tribalistic to the point that all the federal appointments, they did not concede one to the south eastern minorities.
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by revolt(m): 6:37am On Sep 21, 2018
Oh well ..these people are esoteric naturally
...afterall the first man on earth came down with a chain from heaven and till this day the chain still hangs in Ife, according to them.

Their penchant for revisionism is enigmical, little wonder the folklore of buharis clean slate was easy to force down on them .... The British govt (for those that know history will not dispute the fact colonialism or indirect rule failed woefully in the east especially the igbo people which did not go down well with British authorities)collaborated with igbos in filling up positions not just in The west but also even up north. The US consular office issued a memo concerning the uprising of 1966. I'm pretty sure the igbo NCNC govt connived with the US too. Only lazy intellectuals come up with folklore as history. The only evidence of history is the present. I know for sure the odds have been against the igbo since the civil war and yet they still excel in education commerce and even more internationally. I know most igbo multiillionaires arent connected to Fg contracts or oil but can we authoritatively say the same about the revisionists?. We expunged meritocracy lool where it got us.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by revolt(m): 6:48am On Sep 21, 2018
jzun:


All were appointment made by the ruling coalition of the Igbo dominated NCNC and the Hausa/fulani NPC.

When in 2015 Buhari said he was going to give Igbos only 5% of appointments . They shouted blue murder but in 1960 they frustrated out many Yorubas by promoting there juniors over their head.

At University college Ibadan; Professor Ajose was the first black man on the board/council of the school and tghe automatic choice for first VC. He was sidelined because he was Yoruba. He left after University of Ife was created and went to become i8t's first VC.Note that Dike was so Junior to Ajose, it was like making a captain in the army commandant over a colonel. Igbos are tribalistic to the point that all the federal appointments, they did not concede one to the south eastern minorities.
OK I think I see the truth now. These igbos are terrible people no wonder with high cutoffs and fg backed impediments here and there they still succeed. Ohh no wonder.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 6:37pm On Mar 19, 2020
Throwback:
Is there no proud Igbo to take up my challenge above?

This is a disgrace!

Just name 10 Igbo Doctors and 10 Igbo lawyers before the year 1900, and I will name 10 Yoruba's for each profession who were the second generation of Yorubas with such education at the time.

Okay, maybe this is mission impossible for Igbos. Just name 10 university educated Igbos as at 1900, and I will still fulfill my own end of the bargain.
That's baseless. It's not about who started first; it's about who made lofty contributions. Achebe said that the Yoruba started education first because of their contiguity to the coast, but when Igbo started they matched up Yoruba. Didn't you start first, yet the first Vice Chancellor of UNILAG was an Igbo man, Prof. Eni Njoku, while that of Ibadan was Prof. Kenneth Dike?

Besides the civil service of the 1960s was dominated by Igbos because of merit, which you Yorubas envied. Even the officers' cadre of the military was dominated by Igbos. So, your question is baseless.

Due to the location of your land, Yorubas had the first contact with White men (Europeans), and that's why the University of Ibadan was sited in Yorubaland. Even Lagos was also a seat of the colony before and later became the capital of Nigeria.


Igbos pioneered crude oil refining, the first of its kind by black Africans during the war, and also manufactured bomb called ogbunigwe then. Even the Whitemen attested to the ingenuity, skillfulness, intelligence and bravery of Igbos. Yorubas fought on the Nigerian side, but nothing was manufactured by them.

England was the seat of power before. They colonized the US, but the US is the world power today. So, it's not about who produced the first 10 doctors and lawyers before 1900. Igbos are making waves worldwide today. Yorubas have not done better than Igbos in WAEC and JAMB results for the past twenty years. Igbos led for most of those years.


More Igbos now hold elective posts in Poland, England and America where meritocracy is rewarded. So, your question is baseless and senseless, since Igbos came to your land, outsmarted you and became the first VC of UNILAG as well as the first indigenous Principal and VC of University of Ibadan. Even your people rioted that they wanted Prof. Eni Njoku and Prof. Biobaku, a Yoruba man, was stabbed when he stole the position from Njoku backed by your greedy people who hated Igbos. This was because Njoku merited it and was therefore more deserving of the VCship of UNILAG.


China was a third world country before, but it has overtaken America economically today. So, it's not about who started first.


Compare the progress being made by Yorubas and Igbos today, and you'll discover that Igbos have surpassed you people. Igbos are a formidable force in Lagos. Your people only sell lands to us and use it to organize owambe parties, and when it finishes they'll come back, begging again to sell more to us. Your people in Igboland are only Keke tricyclists and tailors. They contribute little or nothing to the economy of Igboland. So, even Zik outsmarted you people in your land. So, your comparison is baseless.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 6:56pm On Mar 19, 2020
Throwback:


This was a dare I tabled before the empty headed BankeSmalls who said Yorubas were in the jungle when Igbos were educated.

Let one Igbo come and defend the claim by providing just 10 university educated Igbo as at 1900.

No be the same Igbo wey just get secondary school as recent as 1925?

I laugh in catch-up!
Give me 10 Yoruba lawyers and 10 doctors before 1900 with the links to them. Also, give me the names of your secondary schools founded in 1900 and supportive evidence. You're not historically correct when you said that secondary schools started as recent as 1925 in Igboland. Igboland and some parts of South South existed as the Eastern Region then, and there were secondary schools in Calabar then founded before 1925. Zik attended one of them too.
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 7:08pm On Mar 19, 2020
smellingmenses:

THAT WE ARE ACCOMMODATING IS NOT IN DISPUTE..
You're not accommodating. Those Igbo men got those posts by merit. You lied that the NCNC led by Zik foisted Dike on University of Ibadan. Let me ask you: did Zik have more power in the Western Region than Awolowo? Recall that the immediate outgone principal, Prof. Kenneth Mellanby, preferred Prof. Kenneth Dike to Profs. Ajose and Onabamiro. Mellanby was a White man. So, he couldn't have preferred a mediocre to take over from him and then destroy his good work.

Also, Prof. Njoku won the second term as the VC of UNILAG but was replaced with Prof. Biobaku who didn't merit it. Students thereafter fought against Biobaku and even stabbed him. Did Zik also foist Njoku on UNILAG? Recall that there was a serious riot because of the choice of Biobaku against the merited one, Njoku. Yorubas can lie!

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 8:09pm On Mar 19, 2020
Throwback:


This debate has been exhausted conclusively on another thread.

I have no interest in who became the first Nigerian head of a higher college that Yorubas rejected from the British as a sorry excuse for their demand for a full fledged university education.

As for Dike, I have already detailed how he got his appointment by Igbo merit. ENI Njoku was also appointed by the NPC/NCNC coalition that was in government at that time in 1960.

Njoku was Igbo, and an Azikiwe was Governor General/Ceremonial President.

The most qualified Igbo gets the nod in typical Azikiwe and NCNC fashion.

Or do you also insist that Kenneth dike was more qualified than his senior colleague and first African professor Oladele Ajose, in University College Ibadan?

Dike was called back from his sabbatical in the USA, to come resume as Vice-Principal, in a bid to ensure he eventually became Principal soon. The Igbo agenda was then unveiled when they conducted their first recruitment after the departure of the British.
You're economical with the truth. What of the Igbo civil servants that dominated the federal civil service and the officers' cadre of the military then? Did Zik maneuver things for them? Why then did the students revolt when Biobaku was foisted on them at the UNILAG against their choice of Njoku?

Yes, Dike was more qualified than Ajose, exposure and administration-wise, and that's the criteria they might have considered. I just got to know about Ajose right now. How do you rate qualification? It's not by being the first. Being the first professor has nothing to do with being a capable administrator, and that's why when Kenneth Mellanby, the then immediate outgone principal of the UI was approached by Dr Akanu Ibiam, he chose Kenneth Dike. Reason like a human being. Don't tell me that being the first African professor makes a professor an effective administrator? If you're reasoning that line, then your reasoning is shallow and outdated. Besides, he wasn't the first African professor except if you're excluding Egyptians and Ethiopians who blazed the trail before sub-Saharan Africans.

Give us the link where Igbos conducted the first recruitment after the British and chose purely Igbos against merit. You claimed to be the first, but you hadn't enough graduates for the federal civil service then. Fortunately for Igbos, they had more graduates than Yorubas then. That's why they filled the civil service and the officers'cadre of the military. Everything was done on merit.


Just accept that the Igbos outsmarted Yorubas and stop cooking up defeatist story and mentality here. Ibiam had no power to unilaterally appoint the principal. There were other members of the governing council drawn from Yoruba and other tribes who deliberated on it.

No Yorubas rejected the University College Ibadan because it wasn't a full fledged university. Give me the link to where they rejected it. Back it up with facts. You Yorubas can lie even more than Satan. Since you claimed that Yorubas rejected the higher college, why then are you embittered than an Igbo man first headed it?
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 8:24pm On Mar 19, 2020

So many than your dizzy mind can comprehend. Do proper research.

Innoson's issue is like an open wound. How can he forge clearance papers?
He didn't forge any paper, and he has won the case. You Yorubas like to incriminate an innocent Igbo man. It's in your DNA. Stop envy.
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 8:27pm On Mar 19, 2020
Throwback:


Was he also made Principal/VC of Harvard to confirm that he was the most eligible professor to head a university? No he was not.

Was his academic work as a historian so groundbreaking that he was worthy of a role in Harvard as a professor that he already was found worthy too in Ibadan, but that was not enough to become Principal in Harvard as the Igbos were not in charge of the school council?

So have you now proven that the less qualified Dike who was the senior African historian in Ibadan, as such the senior African professor of history, was by default the must qualified to become Principal of the whole school when he did, just because he later went on to Harvard to have the same job he already had in Ibadan as just a professor of his own academic field and not Harvard Principal?

Was it ever in contention that he was not qualified to be a professor of history?
Your argument is baseless. It lacks substance.
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 8:36pm On Mar 19, 2020
Nairaland has gone to the ‘dogs’ with no modicum of intelligence.

Ajose & Dike’s matter should not be up for debate at all. Anybody with brains should wonder and ask why Kenneth Dike who was still a Post Graduate student at the time Ajose was already a full professor was made a VC over Ajose, a most senior and very qualified professor at the time.

Stupidity & outright mental corrosion are the reasons why people are trying to find different arguments as to why such abominable appointment was done. These are also the reasons why people do not know or care to know how things work in the academia but continue to push the narratives of Dike’s ‘CV’.

If appointments to VCship were about accomplishments, then Soyinka would have been a VC; Olukoju the first abd only authority in maritime History in Africa would be a VC in Unilag; Akinrinade a first class graduate of History & a top commonwealth Historian well known in the UK would have been a VC in OAU.

Appointments are never about groundbreaking accomplishments but years spent at the certain cadre level. So the argument about Dike’s celebrated position as a Historian is not only wrong but very uneducated. Dike’s position became celebrated much later. Dike may have been the poster-boy of African Historiography but there were much better Historians than he was who really ‘built’ the Ibadan School of History but I won’t speak further on the man’s achievement.

The ‘koko’ here now is, since the academia has a rule of appointing senior colleagues into offices of HOD, Dean, Provost & VC. How and why was Dike, a PG student in 1946 appointed over Ajose, a Professor in 1948?



There's no truth in you. Dike was a professor long before there was a vacancy for the post of a principal of the University College, Ibadan. Also, the headship of universities is open to every professor, no matter your years of professorship. Being a professor before another professor doesn't make one a better administrator, and that's what Ajose lacked. You Yorubas can lie a lot.
Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 8:44pm On Mar 19, 2020
honeychild:


Hmmm...you dey go far. 1900 loun loun. My igbo husband (a man in his thirties) is the first university graduate in his entire extended family grin grin

Meanwhile my entire father's generation were all graduates. My uncles are professors, doctors lawyers. There is nothing any of us in my generation want to achieve academically that someone in our family has not done before. In fact my grandfather was educated.

When these people on nairaland talk about Igbo's being ahead academically in the 50s and 60s I just shake my head.
List those educated people in your family with verifiable evidence and links to those information or else you're a sense.less liar! The federal civil service of the 60's was dominated by Igbos because they had more graduates then than Yorubas. You may start early and be overtaken by someone who started late. Besides, you didn't marry an Igbo man. Give us the link and verifiable information of your so-called non-existent Igbo husband. Yorubas love to lie. Why then did the Igbos dominate the federal civil service of the late 50's and the 60's as well as the officers' cadre if Yorubas had more graduates then? This is a verifiable piece of information known all over Nigeria.

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Re: The Igbo Merit Structure... What It Really Means. by Nobody: 8:48pm On Mar 19, 2020
revolt:
Oh well ..these people are esoteric naturally
...afterall the first man on earth came down with a chain from heaven and till this day the chain still hangs in Ife, according to them.

Their penchant for revisionism is enigmical, little wonder the folklore of buharis clean slate was easy to force down on them .... The British govt (for those that know history will not dispute the fact colonialism or indirect rule failed woefully in the east especially the igbo people which did not go down well with British authorities)collaborated with igbos in filling up positions not just in The west but also even up north. The US consular office issued a memo concerning the uprising of 1966. I'm pretty sure the igbo NCNC govt connived with the US too. Only lazy intellectuals come up with folklore as history. The only evidence of history is the present. I know for sure the odds have been against the igbo since the civil war and yet they still excel in education commerce and even more internationally. I know most igbo multiillionaires arent connected to Fg contracts or oil but can we authoritatively say the same about the revisionists?. We expunged meritocracy lool where it got us.
Ignore them! It's always their usual defeatist story and cra.ss mentality. Aren't they ashamed that Igbos outsmarted them in their own land?

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