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Once Saved Always Saved? by PstBiola: 11:24pm On Apr 12, 2018
Once a person is saved are they always saved? Yes, when people come to know Christ as their Savior, they are brought into a relationship with God that guarantees their salvation as eternally secure. To be clear, salvation is more than saying a prayer or “making a decision” for Christ; salvation is a sovereign act of God whereby an unregenerate sinner is washed, renewed, and born again by the Holy Spirit (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). When salvation occurs, God gives the forgiven sinner a new heart and puts a new spirit within him (Ezekiel 36:26). The Spirit will cause the saved person to walk in obedience to God’s Word (Ezekiel 36:26–27; James 2:26). Numerous passages of Scripture declare the fact that, as an act of God, salvation is secure:

(a) Romans 8:30 declares, 'And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified.' This verse tells us that from the moment God chooses us, it is as if we are glorified in His presence in heaven. There is nothing that can prevent a believer from one day being glorified because God has already purposed it in heaven. Once a person is justified, his salvation is guaranteed—he is as secure as if he is already glorified in heaven.

(b) Paul asks two crucial questions in Romans 8:33-34 'Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.' Who will bring a charge against God's elect? No one will, because Christ is our advocate. Who will condemn us? No one will, because Christ, the One who died for us, is the one who condemns. We have both the advocate and judge as our Savior.

(c) Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The Bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away.

(d) The Holy Spirit indwells all believers (John 14:17; Romans 8:9) and baptizes all believers into the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13). For a believer to become unsaved, he would have to be 'un-indwelt' and detached from the Body of Christ.

(e) John 3:15 states that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will 'have eternal life.' If you believe in Christ today and have eternal life, but lose it tomorrow, then it was never 'eternal' at all. Hence, if you lose your salvation, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error.

(f) In a conclusive argument, Scripture says, 'For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord' (Romans 8:38–39). Remember the same God who saved you is the same God who will keep you. Once we are saved we are always saved. Our salvation is most definitely eternally secure!

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by hypnotic(m): 1:10am On Apr 13, 2018
Always ask for forgiveness daily because your righteousness is based on what you know and that might not be in the full parameter of God
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by ichuka(m): 2:04am On Apr 13, 2018
Nice one OP
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by CodeTemplar: 3:04am On Apr 13, 2018
Stop deceiving yourself OP. Sin can nullify your born again status. Sin will always lead to fall whether Adam or You.

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by ichuka(m): 6:37am On Apr 13, 2018
CodeTemplar:
Stop deceiving yourself OP. Sin can nullify your born again status. Sin will always lead to fall whether Adam or You.
So sin is greater than He that saved you from inception?

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by paxonel(m): 6:51am On Apr 13, 2018
Op, churches that will never agree with this truth.
1. Deeper life
2. RCCG
3. Winners chapel
4. MFM
5. Christ apostolic
etc

All these churches were sent by the devil to torment christians in Nigeria.

Beware!

Once you believe in Christ you are saved forever. Except you denounce christianity to join other religions like Islam, Buddhism, atheism, etc
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by trapQ: 9:10am On Apr 13, 2018
On the contrary these are the true churches of Christ in Nigeria. Anyone who tells you otherwise is an antichrist.
paxonel:
Op, churches that will never agree with this truth.
1. Deeper life
2. RCCG
3. Winners chapel
4. MFM
5. Christ apostolic
etc

All these churches were sent by the devil to torment christians in Nigeria.

Beware!

Once you believe in Christ you are saved forever. Except you denounce christianity to join other religions like Islam, Buddhism, atheism, etc

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by Nobody: 10:30am On Apr 13, 2018
hypnotic:
Always ask for forgiveness daily because your righteousness is based on what you know and that might not be in the full parameter of God
It's not true brother.
We are forever righteous.
It doesn't depend on anything we have done or will ever do. But Christ's finished works.
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by neezar: 11:24am On Apr 13, 2018
Junia:

It's not true brother.
We are forever righteous.
It doesn't depend on anything we have done or will ever do. But Christ's finished works.
baba once u sin u instantly loose ur salvation

Nothing like once saved, Forever saved

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by Nobody: 12:10pm On Apr 13, 2018
neezar:

baba once u sin u instantly loose ur salvation

Nothing like once saved, Forever saved
Hihi
You don't respect Jesus' sacrifice.
Even the blood of lambs of goats could cover sins for a year. How much more the blood of Jesus.

Adam sinned.
Because of that, all became sinners.

Jesus obeyed.
Because of that, all who believe in Him becomes righteous.


Under Adam when we do right, do we move from unsaved to saved ?

What makes you think that once you sin, you will move from saved to unsaved !
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by neezar: 12:11pm On Apr 13, 2018
Junia:

Hihi
You don't respect Jesus' sacrifice.
Even the blood of lambs of goats could cover sins for a year. How much more the blood of Jesus.

oga read ur bible, I can't argue over this

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by Nobody: 12:14pm On Apr 13, 2018
neezar:
oga read ur bible, I can't argue over this
Do you read yours ? What scriptures make you say what you are saying ?

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by hypnotic(m): 1:47pm On Apr 13, 2018
Learn to grow in Christ, speak in tongues, work towards perfection, walk in the spirit. There are levels on levels to grow to in the spirit. All this once saved forever saved talk is milk for babies. What have you done for God with your salvation? That should be the focus

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by hypnotic(m): 1:50pm On Apr 13, 2018
Stop walking towards self righteousness, ask for an encounter with the Holy spirit
paxonel:
Op, churches that will never agree with this truth.
1. Deeper life
2. RCCG
3. Winners chapel
4. MFM
5. Christ apostolic
etc

All these churches were sent by the devil to torment christians in Nigeria.

Beware!

Once you believe in Christ you are saved forever. Except you denounce christianity to join other religions like Islam, Buddhism, atheism, etc
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by ammyluv2002(f): 2:18pm On Apr 13, 2018
CodeTemplar:
Stop deceiving yourself OP. Sin can nullify your born again status. Sin will always lead to fall whether Adam or You.

Me, I don't understand this "Once saved always saved" these days. Someone challenged me on this too. Why would I continue in sin and be claiming being saved forever?

It doesn't make sense! Adam sinned, God had to send His son Christ Jesus to atone for the sin.

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by Nobody: 2:42pm On Apr 13, 2018
CodeTemplar:
Stop deceiving yourself OP. Sin can nullify your born again status. Sin will always lead to fall whether Adam or You.
u need to get out of religion. Christ himself said u have to be born again. Man has already fallen and under sin. Neither ur careful living or observance to some certain codes can save u only the shed blood of Christ can make whole again. Righteousness is not earned, it is a gift.
Once you are born again nothing can undo your status. There is eternal salvation in Christ.

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by Nobody: 2:58pm On Apr 13, 2018
ammyluv2002:


Me, I don't understand this "Once saved always saved" these days. Someone challenged me on this too. Why would I continue in sin and be claiming being saved forever?

It doesn't make sense! Adam sinned, God had to send His son Christ Jesus to atone for the sin.
Christ died so that you will have life. Sin itself is death but nobody can stop himself from commiting sins because we are born and dead in sin.
Psalms 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Due to sin everyone is under God's judgement.
But the bible says for whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
The question is do people believe Jesus can save them? Jesus promise eternal life to those who believe him.
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by Nobody: 3:35pm On Apr 13, 2018
ammyluv2002:


Me, I don't understand this "Once saved always saved" these days. Someone challenged me on this too. Why would I continue in sin and be claiming being saved forever?

It doesn't make sense! Adam sinned, God had to send His son Christ Jesus to atone for the sin.
When you continue to live in sin, then you are proving that you are actually not saved.
1 John 3:9
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

The born again doesn't struggle to live righteous because he has been made righteous. That means
1. He or she now has a righteous nature. The sin nature has been destroyed.

2. He or she has right standing with God. Before, we were alienated from God.

3. He or she is God's prove of His righteousness. God could have been called unjust for forgiving us when He didn't forgive Lucifer. But Christ died in our stead, hence; God still qualifies to be called righteous and just.
So God can point to you and say, he sinned and deserved to die. But I punished his sins in Christ and therefore he can live.
I Am The Righteous God.

Having this truth will enable you to live above sin.

Get this truth and stop worrying about your salvation because you're saved forever.
John 8:35
Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever.

We are son's of God.

John 10:27-28
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.

We are Jesus' sheep.
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by paxonel(m): 7:11pm On Apr 13, 2018
hypnotic:
Stop walking towards self righteousness, ask for an encounter with the Holy spirit
the moment you believe in Christ it is never self righteousness, it is righteousness through the holy spirit

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by paxonel(m): 7:24pm On Apr 13, 2018
trapQ:
On the contrary these are the true churches of Christ in Nigeria. Anyone who tells you otherwise is an antichrist.
church that does not believe that once saved is always saved is not church, it is money making business.
Why?
Because christians that believe that there are christians who are not saved will always go back to church to purify themselves peraventure they fall into that kinda category of christians .
In the process of going back to church ignorantly to purify themselves pastors make so much money from them.

But what says the bible?
Christ has already made them pure they don't know
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:20pm On Apr 13, 2018
neezar:
baba once u sin u instantly loose ur salvation
Nothing like once saved, Forever saved
Anti-Christ doctrine... You just denied Christ and His cross.

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:38pm On Apr 13, 2018
ammyluv2002:


Me, I don't understand this "Once saved always saved" these days. Someone challenged me on this too. Why would I continue in sin and be claiming being saved forever?

It doesn't make sense! Adam sinned, God had to send His son Christ Jesus to atone for the sin.

Go and figure. Eve eyes became opened through Adam even though she was the first person to disobey God by eating the forbidden fruit in the garden.

My point is this: If Adam had refused to eat that fruit, there will be no fall even though Eve ate it.

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by rmventures(m): 9:39pm On Apr 13, 2018
It very true and correct that you can't lose your salvation and nothing can snatch you from God's hand hallelujah! But come to think of it, Rom.8:38 mentioned so many things that can't separate us from the love of Christ but it never mentioned SELF. You yourself can decide to throw your salvation away by yourself and there is nothing anybody can do about it because it's your attitude and decision, no wonder Paul Apostle said "work out your salvation with fear and thrembling". That means you have some things to do as the Holy Spirit helps you, please read: Rom.8:12&13 (Good news version)

Brethren we need to be very carefulof of how we live our Christian lives. Yes Holy spirit is there to strengthen but you can decide to ignore Him when the hurge is very strong.
The fact is that when you continue to hold on to all these onece saved is forever saved, I'm not condemn for my sins anymore because Jesus has been condemned for them bla bla bla... Soon you won't see anything wrong in some slight or very negligible sins anymore. Examine yourself weather you're still the faith.
May The Lord uphold us all to the very end. IJN.

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by trapQ: 9:41pm On Apr 13, 2018
Bla bla bla bla bla.

Dude, learn to speak with facts. By facts here I mean Bible verses. Stop the long sermon and drop verses supporting your claims, otherwise you're just saying things.
paxonel:
church that does not believe that once saved is always saved is not church, it is money making business.
Why?
Because christians that believe that there are christians who are not saved will always go back to church to purify themselves peraventure they fall into that kinda category of christians .
In the process of going back to church ignorantly to purify themselves pastors make so much money from them.

But what says the bible?
Christ has already made them pure they don't know
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by trapQ: 9:42pm On Apr 13, 2018
Are you more Christian than God himself who said without holiness and righteousness no man can see him?
bloodofthelamb:


Anti-Christ doctrine... You just denied Christ and His cross.

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:55pm On Apr 13, 2018
trapQ:
Are you more Christian than God himself who said without holiness and righteousness no man can see him?

Friend, holiness and righteousness is a gift which those who are in union with Christ have abundantly for according to scripture, He is made unto us( those in him) righteousness, sanctification( holiness)...

Which order holiness are you looking for again that is greater than the one God made available for us?

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by Nobody: 10:06pm On Apr 13, 2018
bloodofthelamb:


Go and figure. Eve eyes became opened through Adam even though she was the first person to disobey God by eating the forbidden fruit in the garden.

My point is this: If Adam had refused to eat that fruit, there will be no fall even though Eve ate it.
Deep

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Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by Nobody: 10:09pm On Apr 13, 2018
rmventures:
It very true and correct that you can't lose your salvation and nothing can snatch you from God's hand hallelujah! But come to think of it, Rom.8:38 mentioned so many things that can't separate us from the love of Christ but it never mentioned SELF. You yourself can decide to throw your salvation away by yourself and there is nothing anybody can do about it because it's your attitude and decision, no wonder Paul Apostle said "work out your salvation with fear and thrembling". That means you have some things to do as the Holy Spirit helps you, please read: Rom.8:12&13 (Good news version)

Brethren we need to be very carefulof of how we live our Christian lives. Yes Holy spirit is there to strengthen but you can decide to ignore Him when the hurge is very strong.
The fact is that when you continue to hold on to all these onece saved is forever saved, I'm not condemn for my sins anymore because Jesus has been condemned for them bla bla bla... Soon you won't see anything wrong in some slight or very negligible sins anymore. Examine yourself weather you're still the faith.
May The Lord uphold us all to the very end. IJN.
The only way to lose your salvation is to denounce Christ.
When someone says he or she is born again and continues to live in sin, I believe that person was not even born again.
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by hypnotic(m): 10:17pm On Apr 13, 2018
okay, the Holy Spirit comes when you ask, it is not automatic
paxonel:
the moment you believe in Christ it is never self righteousness, it is righteousness through the holy spirit
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by trapQ: 10:28pm On Apr 13, 2018
Holiness and righteousness were never mentioned as gifts. You are preaching a gospel other than Christ preached. You who call others anti Christ are the antichrist yourself. Not for once have you posted any verse to substantiate your claims
bloodofthelamb:


Friend, holiness and righteousness is a gift which those who are in union with Christ have abundantly for according to scripture, He is made unto us( those in him) righteousness, sanctification( holiness)...

Which order holiness are you looking for again that is greater than the one God made available for us?
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:28pm On Apr 13, 2018
Junia:

The only way to lose your salvation is to denounce Christ.
When someone says he or she is born again and continues to live in sin, I believe that person was not even born again.

Brother, I don't even believe that someone who has tasted the sweetness of the Spirit of Jesus will denounce Christ...
Re: Once Saved Always Saved? by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:43pm On Apr 13, 2018
trapQ:
Holiness and righteousness were never mentioned as gifts. You are preaching a gospel other than Christ preached. You who call others anti Christ are the antichrist yourself. Not for once have you posted any verse to substantiate your claims

Have it. Romans 5:17- For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the GIFT of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ...

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