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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by sprints1: 8:21pm On Jun 09, 2018
delexy123:
Man selfishness has always been the reasons for his woes(wars included). Religion like technology, education etc is just a tool used by man to acquire resources for himself. Take away religion (which is a tall dream anyway) and man will still continue to controll and suppress his kind using other means. Also your assertion that the religious belief of these men caused all what you stated above is a construct of men who have succeeded in swaying you into buying their narrative using 'half truth' information which is also a tool to further their own selfish agenda. The truth is that man is naturally selfish and will continue to devise any means to acquire resources for himself even at the expense of his kind. Survival of the fittest they say it is...
I reason with what the guy above me said...but religion was created to make the world better... certain rules and regulations to reduce negatives of life...but now in this century religion is now driven by money and greed... technology on the other arm has done so many arms internet fraud cybercrime etc..well it depends on the perspective we see it... Is religion really helping nowadays...I don't think... despite the number of churches mosques etc the community is still revolving around greed...what I don't like is someone imposing his/her beliefs on me...religion was not created by u..u can tell me to dis do that if I do this I won't make heaven or if I don't pay this money I won't make the kingdom of God/Allah etc..well I also read from the scriptures or words of religion I can comprehend and interpret it the way I like...a man once said if u don't observe ramandan fully as a Muslim and u are enriching people' life making life better for others u are worse than a rapist a criminal a fraudster liar cheater who observes his own ramandan fully without skipping a day.. I looked at the the person who is highly religious and say is he OK.we need to understand their is difference between saint and good... now to what the guy above me said about man being selfish he is right that is why nobody is really good...we all I have this selfish energy around even if we give....
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by johnydon22(m): 8:33pm On Jun 09, 2018
Ugosample:
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thw worst crimes till date was committed in the name of religion eg the crusades, the massacre in latin America, jihadist incursion etc

World war 2, Rwanda Massacre, Biafra war, World war 1...

I think just like everything else, religion can be a cause of war but the idea that it is the highest cause of war is nonsensical

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by delexy123: 8:45pm On Jun 09, 2018
sprints1:
I reason with what the guy above me said...but religion was created to make the world better... certain rules and regulations to reduce negatives of life...but now in this century religion is now driven by money and greed... technology on the other arm has done so many arms internet fraud cybercrime etc..well it depends on the perspective we see it... Is religion really helping nowadays...I don't think... despite the number of churches mosques etc the community is still revolving around greed...what I don't like is someone imposing his/her beliefs on me...religion was not created by u..u can tell me to dis do that if I do this I won't make heaven or if I don't pay this money I won't make the kingdom of God/Allah etc..well I also read from the scriptures or words of religion I can comprehend and interpret it the way I like...a man once said if u don't observe ramandan fully as a Muslim and u are enriching people' life making life better for others u are worse than a rapist a criminal a fraudster liar cheater who observes his own ramandan fully without skipping a day.. I looked at the the person who is highly religious and say is he OK.we need to understand their is difference between saint and good... now to what the guy above me said about man being selfish he is right that is why nobody is really good...we all I have this selfish energy around even if we give....
. Man has always been known to shift blame from himself and point the fingers to his tools. Going by your assertion what can make a seemingly harmless religion become poisonous? Man who in his selfishness has make a tool out of religion to further his own gain. Until man become totally selfless and take full responsibility for his actions and inactions rather than blaming his tools (a tall dream anyway) the human race will continue to experience conflicts.

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by Smarkie: 8:56pm On Jun 09, 2018
interesting
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by leofab(f): 11:22pm On Jun 09, 2018
rekinomtla:


True but the question is how much harm has it done to man.
it’s has solved almost all man’s problem and quest.. ranging from transportation to communication and interaction; healthcare and critical thinking to but mention but a few.. the. I challenge you to mention just one positive attribute of religion to humankind..
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by leofab(f): 11:24pm On Jun 09, 2018
felixomor:


You have failed by providing zero evidence to counter the claim.
Please try again sad

your claims are only applicable in Africa.. in fact religion frowns at learning that why the church tortured and killed Galileo and others.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by felixomor: 12:37am On Jun 10, 2018
leofab:
your claims are only applicable in Africa .. in fact religion frowns at learning that why the church tortured and killed Galileo and others.
Wrong.
Go read the histories of the founding of top universities in the world.
Like Havard, Yale, Oxford etc
Read their founders mission statements
Even their logos,
Come back and enlighten yourself.

Besides, if u say it is only applicable in Africa, then you are even damping your own argument because Africa is the main reason why many people speak ill of religion.
Yet u admit that religion brought education to it.

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by rekinomtla(m): 2:11am On Jun 10, 2018
leofab:
it’s has solved almost all man’s problem and quest.. ranging from transportation to communication and interaction; healthcare and critical thinking to but mention but a few.. the. I challenge you to mention just one positive attribute of religion to humankind..

Numerous churches feed and care for the poor through charity.

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by felixomor: 2:14am On Jun 10, 2018
rekinomtla:


Numerous churches feed and care for the poor through charity.
Thank you

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by rekinomtla(m): 2:18am On Jun 10, 2018
leofab:
your claims are only applicable in Africa.. in fact religion frowns at learning that why the church tortured and killed Galileo and others.

The bold in fact never happened. Galileo was never tortured nor killed, thats an atheist myth. Do your research, he was placed under house arrest and later died of natural causes.

Don't trust what atheists have told you about the churche's relationship with science, they lie a hell of alot about that. Rather do your own research.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by felixomor: 2:18am On Jun 10, 2018
felixomor:

Wrong.
Go read the histories of the founding of top universities in the world.
Like Havard, Yale, Oxford etc
Read their founders mission statements
Even their logos,
Come back and enlighten yourself.

Besides, if u say it is only applicable in Africa, then you are even damping your own argument because Africa is the main reason why many people speak ill of religion.
Yet u admit that religion brought education to the continent.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by felixomor: 2:23am On Jun 10, 2018
Meanwhile

For those who claim religion has destroyed more lives than atheism

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by superhumanist(m): 4:08am On Jun 10, 2018
felixomor:

Meanwhile

For those who claim religion has destroyed more lives than atheism

When was Afghanistan ever an atheist country?

Or even France?

You keep posting lies and rubbish.


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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by superhumanist(m): 4:43am On Jun 10, 2018
johnydon22:


If we go by what has been achieved, politics killed and have destroyed 10 times what religion has through history. It still remains.

johnydon22:


World war 2, Rwanda Massacre, Biafra war, World war 1...

I think just like everything else, religion can be a cause of war but the idea that it is the highest cause of war is nonsensical



The point is that religion has done more harm than technology. All this your bending over to sit on the fence on this issue is disappointing.

I'm truly disappointed in the 'kingebuka-like' statements you made here.



Religion is a far more dangerous tool than technology. There exists no technology or even politics that will cause a 100 people to commit suicide together without facing any imminent threat.

Remember that Christian cult that drank poison and commited suicide? What technology or politics could do that? Hmm

I really think that all the prise you have earned is getting to your head.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by Kingsley10000: 6:44am On Jun 10, 2018
Therez a great disparity between them
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by hopefulLandlord: 7:10am On Jun 10, 2018
Superhumanist, Johnydon22

I think religion might not be the main cause of wars around the world but if we really study most of wars whether fought on religious or non religious grounds we'd notice leaders on both sides of the wars using religions to justify why their subordinates should fight. they can use "god told me" or some holy book verse to encourage people to go and die for the cause which they might've been reluctant to die for otherwise. George Bush claimed god told him to invade Iraq, this is an example and its obvious many such would have been happening, is still happening and would continue to happen

Now I understand religion is just and ideology just like someone can be convinced to kill and potentially die for what "god wants" another can be convinced to kill and potentially die for "what Leninism wants" but my grouse with something like Religion compared to Leninism is that religion is untestable, unverifiable and unfalsifiable so while someone can check certain facts and figures to know if a Leninist telling his people to go, kill and potentially die so their economy can get better is lying..... the same cannot be done for religiously backed statements like "God told me" no facts and figures can be used to know if such a person is lying.

the worst part is that not even after the fact can anyone prove it either. We can look back at the acts of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini and say they were wrong buy who is anyone to say Al Qaeda is wrong whether now or in the future? No one because they believe some god is behind their killings and results or consequences don't matter so one cannot judge them on anything testable and verifiable


To the OP though I haven't read the main text but from the header I think it makes no sense to create a dichotomy between technology and religion

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by johnydon22(m): 8:16am On Jun 10, 2018
superhumanist:


The point is that religion has done more harm than technology. All this your bending over to sit on the fence on this issue is disappointing.

I'm truly disappointed in the 'kingebuka-like' statements you made here.

Its amazing if you think that I am here to impress anyone.


Religion is a far more dangerous tool than technology. There exists no technology or even politics that will cause a 100 people to commit suicide together without facing any imminent threat.
We have a technology that can wipe out the whole planet. What can be more dangerous than that?

I dont think any of you understand this argument.


Remember that Christian cult that drank poison and commited suicide? What technology or politics could do that? Hmm
Communism, guns, bombs, nuclear bombs. The premise here is "Dangerous"



I really think that all the prise you have earned is getting to your head.

LOL. Amazing. Ad hominems do not validate arguments.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by hahn(m): 10:51am On Jun 10, 2018
johnydon22:
I'm not disputing this but this isn't really the premise of the post

It all boils down to it eventually
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by fayded(m): 11:58am On Jun 10, 2018
johnydon22:
Today, technology have given us a weapon powerful enough to end life as we know it by just the flick of a button, I doubt religion have ever being that powerful or threatening throughout history.

Let us be objective, anything can be misused and abused given the wrong application, technology and religion are suitable examples.
Yea, but religion gives people a "reason" or belief or should I say a strong conviction beyond reasonable doubt to use those powerful weapons on other people.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by felixomor: 12:09pm On Jun 10, 2018
superhumanist:


When was Afghanistan ever an atheist country?

Or even France?

You keep posting lies and rubbish.


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Such facts are not meant for your likes.
U lack the intellectual capacity for even the least of such.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by RuthlessLeader(m): 12:19pm On Jun 10, 2018
felixomor:

Such facts are not meant for your likes.
U lack the intellectual capacity for even the least of such.
Most of the christians on nairaland like you are very big liars. If jesus were real, he would call you guys children of satan

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by felixomor: 12:28pm On Jun 10, 2018
RuthlessLeader:

[s]Most of the christians on nairaland like you are very big liars. If jesus were real, he would call you guys children of satan[/s]
Another dolt
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by RuthlessLeader(m): 1:35pm On Jun 10, 2018
felixomor:

Another dolt
like your God abi
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by leofab(f): 11:29pm On Jun 10, 2018
rekinomtla:


The bold in fact never happened. Galileo was never tortured nor killed, thats an atheist myth. Do your research, he was placed under house arrest and later died of natural causes.

Don't trust what atheists have told you about the churche's relationship with science, they lie a hell of alot about that. Rather do your own research.
so why did the pope apologized ?
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by leofab(f): 11:48pm On Jun 10, 2018
rekinomtla:


Numerous churches feed and care for the poor through charity.
really ? And all the grant we. Receive in Africa is from WHO NGOs.. these are termed anti-christ movement... does it mean Devil cater for humans too?
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by rekinomtla(m): 9:18am On Jun 11, 2018
leofab:
so why did the pope apologized ?

Don't know, wasn't necessary. Just know it wasn't because they tortured or killed him. The pope most likely just apologized due to the fact that Galileo was actually correct.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by rekinomtla(m): 9:24am On Jun 11, 2018
leofab:
really ? And all the grant we. Receive in Africa is from WHO NGOs.. these are termed anti-christ movement... does it mean Devil cater for humans too?

Thats irrelevant to my point. You ask me to name just one positive attribute of religion to humankind. Churches feeding the poor is one. People terming the WHO as anti-christian movements does not delete the positive contributions of religion.

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by Anas09: 11:26am On Jun 11, 2018
RuthlessLeader:

Technology can be used for both good or bad. It doesn't dictate morality.

Religion determines good and bad even when it goes against your commonsense or conscience.
Thank you.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by Anas09: 11:28am On Jun 11, 2018
RuthlessLeader:

Technology is controlled by humans.

Humans are controlled by Religion
Ah, you mean the humans who killed their followers in the atheists nations like the Soviet Union before now were controlled by religion? Be sincere pls.

Is the North Korean guy today controlled by religion?
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by Anas09: 11:36am On Jun 11, 2018
Hakeem12:
You have said it all. Religion is one of the major reasons for our continued backwardness in this nation coupled with superstitious beliefs. People are discouraged from reasoning and making use of their brains. They are discouraged from asking questions in churches and mosques, asked to donate 10 percent of their hard earned income to a sky daddy who doesn't need it promising you eternal life which those religious leaders themselves know is bullshiit.
You know, you are not religious, pls what have you done as a person that has moved the world around you forward?


Mentioned your achievements as an irreligious person.
Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by Anas09: 11:51am On Jun 11, 2018
vaxx:
johnydon22 may no longer be an atheist. i am sensing it .
No. He is an atheist alright. But a sensible and an objective one.

He calls a Spade a Spade not a gardening tool. Others are bitter and angrily baize so that even when they see the truth, they'd twist it for hate's sake.

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Re: 'Religion Has Done More Harm To Man Than Technology' - Twitter User Says by hopefulLandlord: 11:55am On Jun 11, 2018
Anas09:

Ah, you mean the humans who killed their followers in the atheists nations like the Soviet Union before now were controlled by religion? Be sincere pls.

Is the North Korean guy today controlled by religion?

Soviet Union was NEVER an atheist nation

North Korea guy calls himself God and they worship him just like you do Jesus

Stop saying wrong things wink

ask and learn wink

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