Anas09:

I expected that you'd mention them. I'm interested in knowing what is Anti religion and what breeds it. Don't tell me many facts breeds it. Mention and explain them.

Mention what? go to google or something

ScienceWatch:
Millions of innocent little babies are freely killed because atheists worship their SATANIC deity called NO-GOD.

Horrific abortions of babies are encouraged, men having anal sex with each other are encouraged, shoving parents into prisons called old age homes are encouraged, ETC, ETC.

The destruction of healthy societies is atheism's goal.

these epedemics goes on rapidly in Nigeria where 98% of their populations are religious; just wondering the culprits though!

ScienceWatch:
His only weakness is that he fights to publish SATANIC Harry Potter fiction on a so-called religious section.

butter confessed he has a double-barrelled gun that shoots both ends. I did suggest he get a mirror so he can see himself, but we all know how butter refuses to learn, because it's all, 'hardwired into his dna from the start'. Besides, he's hardly going to take advice from atheist buda. If he did, both of you would see that not only is Harry Potter religion, but it specifically is Christian religion.

Harry Potter is followed by house-elves and goblins — not disciples — but for the sharp-eyed reader, the biblical parallels are striking. Author J.K. Rowling's "Harry Potter" books have always, in fact, dealt explicitly with religious themes and questions, but until "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," they had never quoted any specific religion.

But what else should be expected from those who think they shoot their opposer when in fact, they only accomplish their very own demise. One can clearly see why the JK says:

"I go to church myself," she declared. "I don't take any responsibility for the lunatic fringes of my own religion." JK Rowling

hopefulLandlord:


Mention what? go to google or something

And you think i don't know what i'm insisting on abi?

You rushed to talk, now mention the factors that are responsible for people becoming anti religious, you can't. Yet Anti Religion is not atheism.

Gerarahia boy.

superhumanist:


Keep quiet.

I have always known you to have inferiority complex. John no be your class. You may pride yourself that you both are in the same atheist camp, yet deep down, you know you are rass where he is.

omenka:
Question is, hasn't religion been behind some of the greatest crimes against humanity we've witnessed?

Nope, religion has not been behind ... .

You and your sneaky question, "some of" !? That doesn't have a meaning!

Still, religion has not been behind the "greatest crimes against humanity we've witnessed". No religion has ever killed anyone. It is humans who are behind the greatest crimes, and achievements, we've ever witnessed. Some just sometimes chose god as their preferred weapon is all.

Anas09:

I have always known you to have inferiority complex. John no be your class. You may pride yourself that you both are in the same atheist camp, yet deep down, you know you are rass where he is.

Interesting.

Since you and felixomor are praising johnnydon, I am quite confident that he is wrong.

I mean, if two of the worst Christians lend you support, wouldn't you question yourself?

budaatum:
Nope, religion has not been behind ... .
You and your sneaky question, "some of" !? That doesn't have a meaning!
Still, religion has not been behind the "greatest crimes against humanity we've witnessed".

I have never heard of compassion killing anyone

budaatum:
No religion has ever killed anyone.

Well, its akin to saying, no gun has ever killed anyone

budaatum:
It is humans who are behind the greatest crimes, and achievements, we've ever witnessed.

Quite right.
Humans misunderstanding religion that God approves of as true and faultless

budaatum:
Some just sometimes chose god as their preferred weapon is all.

Tragic

superhumanist:


Interesting.

Since you and felixomor are praising johnnydon, I am quite confident that he is wrong.

I mean, if two of the worst Christians lend you support, wouldn't you question yourself?

Keep kwayet

Anas09:

And you think i don't know what i'm insisting on abi?

You rushed to talk, now mention the factors that are responsible for people becoming anti religious, you can't. Yet Anti Religion is not atheism.

Gerarahia boy.

Let me put this in simple terms, a person realising organised religion is nonsense could be from many factors, it could come from the person suffering some bad things from them, it could be from studying religion unbiased, it could be from trying to find out the "truth" being peddled by religion, it could be from seeing the terrible influence religion has on his society, it could be from such a person seeing how religion is preventing certain scientific advancements due to its being against some religious tenets and many others.
we see posts here of people saying they are not atheists but say they're against organised religion, such people are antireligious. some Christians even say such too like saying "I believe in Jesus but I'm against organised religion, Jesus never created any religion after him, its all humans doing". We see some atheists saying religion is still a good thing and has its benefits so it shouldn't be eradicated but encouraged

You lots just try to make atheism an antireligion thing while ignoring the fact that there are many atheists in places like Japan, China, India etc who are participating in religions like Shintoism, Buddhism, Taoism, Jainism etc

superhumanist:


Interesting.

Since you and felixomor are praising johnnydon, I am quite confident that he is wrong.

I mean, if two of the worst Christians lend you support, wouldn't you question yourself?

So becos i said he is unbiased in his assessment of issues he is wrong?
He is wrong now becos he said the truth?

Why don't you pick the points he gave, analyze them and pin point where he is wrong?

I've always known you to be daft beyond repair.

Butterflyleo, you do a tremendous job school this kid. He has learned nothing from all the effort you have put in him, Chai.

So Johnydon22 is absolutely wrong becos i said he is rational, not from what he said.

Nonsense mumuhumanist.

No quote me again o. which kind mumu be this?

An Atheist is someone who lacks a believe in anything he can not see. e.g Spirits.

An Anti Religious person is someone who is against someone who believes what he cannot see, eg, Spirits.
Who then is an atheist? An atheist is an anti religious person who is against anything which can not be seen or proven by an empirical study.

hopefulLandlord:

Let me put this in simple terms, a person realising organised religion is nonsense could be from many factors, it could come from the person suffering some bad things from them,

I will begin by saying what you have heard me say numerous times and i will say it again until it sinks into you, altho, it's taking you forever to grasp it. I AM A CHRISTIAN AND WILL NOT STAND TO ANSWER FOR WHAT ISLAM DOES. IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ME, IT WILL FOOLISH TO JUMBLE ME UP WITH THOSE I CAN'T DEFEND. That said.

You started by saying 'anyone who realizes that organized religion is nonsense', by this you call Christianity an organized religion yeah? Well, answer me again, quote for me a scripture from Genesis to Revelation where YHWH/Jesus handed man his creation a religion.

Again, i will speak as a Christian. Does Christ promised His followers a suffering-Free walk with Him? Did Abraham suffer?
Did Joseph suffer?
Did Moses suffer?
Did David suffer? What about, Jeremiah, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? Did Jesus suffer? What about all the Apostles? Was anyone speared from suffering becos they were followers of YHWH? Did any of them turn around and malign Him becos they suffered? I have suffered, and still suffering, yet I have not turned against my God. That is because, true allegiance comes when a believer can praise God in Spite of Pain, thank God during trials, trust God when tempted, surrender while suffering, and most of all, love God even when he seems distant.
Anyone who can not stand this is not worthy to be called a disciple.
FOR,
Anyone who puts his hand in a ploy and looks back is not worthy of Christ. Luke 9:62.

hopefulLandlord:

it could be from studying religion unbiased, it could be from trying to find out the "truth" being peddled by religion,

Studying religion or studying Christ you meant to say? Pls drop just one name of a man who set out to study Jesus who came out hating Him if you believe Jesus gave his followers a religion.

hopefulLandlord:

it could be from seeing the terrible influence religion has on his society, it could be from such a person seeing how religion is preventing certain scientific advancements due to its being against some religious tenets and many others.

Let's begin with how Christianity which you try so hard to group with Islam is responsible for your hating or turning against Jesus. Pls begin with outlining Bible passages that enjoined Christians to harm the society, stand against scientific advancements, (stuff you don't even know began from YHWH Himself).

Put it this way, 'This is why i Hopefullandlord am anti Christ or Anti YHWH. The Bible says this and that about this and that, and for this reason, i can not acknowledge Him as God over me.
Go ahead pls.

hopefulLandlord:


we see posts here of people saying they are not atheists but say they're against organised religion, such people are antireligious.

And have you also noticed how those people take hateful spiteful stance against Jesus and Christians here? Have you noticed that altho they say they are against religion, the religion they mean is Christianity? Have you ever seen any anti religious thread targeting Islam? Why this hypocrisy?

hopefulLandlord:

some Christians even say such too like saying "I believe in Jesus but I'm against organised religion, Jesus never created any religion after him, its all humans doing". We see some atheists saying religion is still a good thing and has its benefits so it shouldn't be eradicated but encouraged

Why then are all your anti-religious threads targeting Christianity? Just like this one?

YHWH has always wanted to have a religionship man, and a relationship is not a religion. Judie-christian is the only Creed where there is a father/son/daughter relationship exists. God is their father and they are His children.
What name will you call a religion of a Father/Son relationship?

hopefulLandlord:

You lots just try to make atheism an antireligion thing while ignoring the fact that there are many atheists in places like Japan, China, India etc who are participating in religions like Shintoism, Buddhism, Taoism, Jainism etc

These people or groups you mentioned here do not intrinsically believe in a Supreme being as i do. They believe that THEY are the gods, but attaining to this godhood takes processes and adherence to certain taunts. It will be a shame for anyone to group these people with Islam, how much less Christianity.

Again, these people you mentioned here are all New Age ideologies, some of them are here with us all their stance is against Christianity, not even Islam, why us that?

In Merlin's thread, 'How he became a Satanist', i discovered a lot of anti Christian (Call it anti religion as you already do) in there were actually New Age Adherents. (And New Age is pure atheism,self worship).
And, they join you here to call us names and insult Jesus. The same New Agers you called Religious people.

Call a Spade a Spade, not a gardening tool.

Anas09:
An Atheist is someone who lacks a believe in anything he can not see. e.g Spirits.

An Anti Religious person is someone who is against someone who believes what he cannot see, eg, Spirits.
Who then is an atheist? An atheist is an anti religious person who is against anything which can not be seen or proven by an empirical study.



I will begin by saying what you have heard me say numerous times and i will say it again until it sinks into you, altho, it's taking you forever to grasp it. I AM A CHRISTIAN AND WILL NOT STAND TO ANSWER FOR WHAT ISLAM DOES. IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ME, IT WILL FOOLISH TO JUMBLE ME UP WITH THOSE I CAN'T DEFEND. That said.

You started by saying 'anyone who realizes that organized religion is nonsense', by this you call Christianity an organized religion yeah? Well, answer me again, quote for me a scripture from Genesis to Revelation where YHWH/Jesus handed man his creation a religion.

Again, i will speak as a Christian. Does Christ promised His followers a suffering-Free walk with Him? Did Abraham suffer?
Did Joseph suffer?
Did Moses suffer?
Did David suffer? What about, Jeremiah, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? Did Jesus suffer? What about all the Apostles? Was anyone speared from suffering becos they were followers of YHWH? Did any of them turn around and malign Him becos they suffered? I have suffered, and still suffering, yet I have not turned against my God. That is because, true allegiance comes when a believer can praise God in Spite of Pain, thank God during trials, trust God when tempted, surrender while suffering, and most of all, love God even when he seems distant.
Anyone who can not stand this is not worthy to be called a disciple.
FOR,
Anyone who puts his hand in a ploy and looks back is not worthy of Christ. Luke 9:62.

Studying religion or studying Christ you meant to say? Pls drop just one name of a man who set out to study Jesus who came out hating Him if you believe Jesus gave his followers a religion.


Let's begin with how Christianity which you try so hard to group with Islam is responsible for your hating or turning against Jesus. Pls begin with outlining Bible passages that enjoined Christians to harm the society, stand against scientific advancements, (stuff you don't even know began from YHWH Himself).

Put it this way, 'This is why i Hopefullandlord am anti Christ or Anti YHWH. The Bible says this and that about this and that, and for this reason, i can not acknowledge Him as God over me.
Go ahead pls.


And have you also noticed how those people take hateful spiteful stance against Jesus and Christians here? Have you noticed that altho they say they are against religion, the religion they mean is Christianity? Have you ever seen any anti religious thread targeting Islam? Why this hypocrisy?


Why then are all your anti-religious threads targeting Christianity? Just like this one?

YHWH has always wanted to have a religionship man, and a relationship is not a religion. Judie-christian is the only Creed where there is a father/son/daughter relationship exists. God is their father and they are His children.
What name will you call a religion of a Father/Son relationship?



These people or groups you mentioned here do not intrinsically believe in a Supreme being as i do. They believe that THEY are the gods, but attaining to this godhood takes processes and adherence to certain taunts. It will be a shame for anyone to group these people with Islam, how much less Christianity.

Again, these people you mentioned here are all New Age ideologies, some of them are here with us all their stance is against Christianity, not even Islam, why us that?

In Merlin's thread, 'How he became a Satanist', i discovered a lot of anti Christian (Call it anti religion as you already do) in there were actually New Age Adherents. (And New Age is pure atheism,self worship).

How does any of these thesis address my point?

Your post is filled with so much misinformation and misconceptions I don't know where to start from as NOTHING you said here is correct

hopefulLandlord:


How does any of these thesis address my point?

Your post is filled with so much misinformation and misconceptions I don't know where to start from

I'm sure you didn't read anything i posted.

An atheist is an Anti religious person is the conclusion you' d get if you read through.

budaatum:

Nope, religion has not been behind ... .

You and your sneaky question, "some of" !? That doesn't have a meaning!

Still, religion has not been behind the "greatest crimes against humanity we've witnessed". No religion has ever killed anyone. It is humans who are behind the greatest crimes, and achievements, we've ever witnessed. Some just sometimes chose god as their preferred weapon is all.

I totally agree with you. Guns don't kill people, People kill people. It is hate that kills people.

Again, let me say that from when man shifted his gaze from his mission on earth which is to dominate and rule over God's creation, but fixed it on ruling over and dominating other Men, is when all of these began.

God never intended for a man to dominate and rule over other men, that came with the Fall. That is why Christ came.

Christ's disciples went to Him with this same issue, He rebuked them and told them to be servants instead. No one shd bare rule over the other was what Jesus told us, but disobedience will not allow us be good Christians.

Well, in Islam Muhammad enjoined them to subjugate non Muslims. those who resist shd be killed.

hopefulLandlord:


How does any of these thesis address my point?

Your post is filled with so much misinformation and misconceptions I don't know where to start from as NOTHING you said here is correct

Are you Capable of Calling a Spade a Spade?

Anas09:

So becos i said he is unbiased in his assessment of issues he is wrong?
He is wrong now becos he said the truth?

Why don't you pick the points he gave, analyze them and pin point where he is wrong?

I've always known you to be daft beyond repair.

Butterflyleo, you do a tremendous job school this kid. He has learned nothing from all the effort you have put in him, Chai.

So Johnydon22 is absolutely wrong becos i said he is rational, not from what he said.

Nonsense mumuhumanist.

No quote me again o. which kind mumu be this?

He even likened johnnydon to being the worst atheist when he compared him to a worst christian.

The guy is on another level of stupidity.

Butterflyleo:


He even likened johnnydon to being the worst atheist when he compared him to a worst christian.

The guy is on another level of stupidity.

Low level stupidity if you ask me

Anas09:

So becos i said he is unbiased in his assessment of issues he is wrong?
He is wrong now becos he said the truth?

Why don't you pick the points he gave, analyze them and pin point where he is wrong?

I've always known you to be daft beyond repair.

Butterflyleo, you do a tremendous job school this kid. He has learned nothing from all the effort you have put in him, Chai.

So Johnydon22 is absolutely wrong becos i said he is rational, not from what he said.

Nonsense mumuhumanist.

No quote me again o. which kind mumu be this?

Looool

felixomor:

Looool

That boy na supermumunist.

Anas09:
Are you Capable of Calling a Spade a Spade?

that's what I do!

budaatum:
butter confessed he has a double-barrelled gun that shoots both ends. I did suggest he get a mirror so he can see himself, but we all know how butter refuses to learn, because it's all, 'hardwired into his dna from the start'. Besides, he's hardly going to take advice from atheist buda. If he did, both of you would see that not only is Harry Potter religion, but it specifically is Christian religion.

Harry Potter is followed by house-elves and goblins — not disciples — but for the sharp-eyed reader, the biblical parallels are striking. Author J.K. Rowling's "Harry Potter" books have always, in fact, dealt explicitly with religious themes and questions, but until "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," they had never quoted any specific religion.

But what else should be expected from those who think they shoot their opposer when in fact, they only accomplish their very own demise. One can clearly see why the JK says:

"I go to church myself," she declared. "I don't take any responsibility for the lunatic fringes of my own religion." JK Rowling

There is truth to your experience as a spiritual leader. You stated that you called on spiritual entities in the middle of the night to intervene in the affairs of the village on this link; https://www.nairaland.com/4373196/atheism-belief-lack-belief/8#65514637
In spite of your spiritual experience as a leader, you feign ignorance of the deeper meaning of what BUTTERFLYLEO said about DNA and "hardwired" , the fact is that ones DNA changes when a supernatural entity affects ones life.

How can you dare to falter like this, by mixing spiritual realities with secular mundane pseudo science.

BUTTERFLYLEO is in fact taking advice from atheists but he wisely and kindly buffers it with highest truth to point the unwary readers to safer higher ground.

You are still slyly justifying your desire to establish JK Rowlings and Harry Potter as authentic religious knowledge worthy of recognition on a religious forum.

Do you remember FAKE pastor Oaroloye, he also slaved to spread SATANIC initiation through FICTIONAL Nagualism and Satanically inspired Scientology under the disguise that Nagualism and Scientology books have always, in fact, dealt explicitly with religious themes and questions.
BUDAATUM you argue the same way.

Anas09:
An Atheist is someone who lacks a believe in anything he can not see. e.g Spirits.

Incorrect

An atheist simply do not believe in God.

Doesn't matter what other things you believe in, seen or unseen. As long as you don't believe in God, you are an atheist.

An Anti Religious person is someone who is against someone who believes what he cannot see, eg, Spirits.

Wrong.

Antireligious just is against the institution of religion, often believes it is important for religion to be eradicated.

Atheism isn't same thing with Antireligious.

Anyone can be antireligious though many atheists are. Some aren't.

An atheist can also be religious, there are in fact religions that are formed on a fundamental atheistic assumption (No God or indifference to God).

Who then is an atheist? An atheist is an anti religious person who is against anything which can not be seen or proven by an empirical study.

Someone who lacks belief in God. Q.E.D

Anas09:

I'm sure you didn't read anything i posted.

An atheist is an Anti religious person is the conclusion you' d get if you read through.

actually I did and everything you said is wrong so the conclusion you drew can't be correct either, let me summarise it

"Atheists only believe what they can see" No!

"Jesus never organised any religion after himself" maybe but that's not important here, what's important is that an organised religion has been built around the person of Jesus and some people are against that, we don't need to split hairs over this

organized religion
noun
1. a structured system of faith or worship, especially one followed by a large number of people, such as Christianity, Islam, or Judaism.

You mentioned islam, something I never brought up or where did you see me mention islam?!

You misconstrued my talk about "suffering" and started talking about Abednego and whatnot, wetin concern me with that one?

its funny how you've totally missed everything we've been saying and you're trying hard to drag unimportant matters into this

what? do you have any idea what newage means? Shintoism, Buddhism, Taoism, Jainism are NOT newage by any stretch of the imagination! neither do any of them claim to be gods, you're just talking ignorantly and a simple googling would've saved you all these embarrassment

Like I said, nothing in your long thesis is correct so its safe to say the conclusion is not too

Butterflyleo:




Your atheist brethren disagrees with you with the words in bold. It does show how you guys can lie

You asked for evidence of how atheists kill as an ORGANIZATION and when shown you say I am wrong? Were these not your words?





You are a shameless lying hypocrite. You guys really have perfected the art of talking from both sides of your mouth.

Well said Sir. Could it be that the SATANIC atheist prophet Richard Dawkins had wannabe atheists like Ruthlessleader in mind, when he told a group that they WERE ONCE FISH ?

johnydon22:



An atheist can also be religious, there are in fact religions that are formed on a fundamental atheistic assumption (No God or indifference to God).

Would ANAS09 agree that Satanism is a religion that is indifferent to God.

Butterflyleo:



Here you are being deceptive again. I ignored your goalpost shifting attempt earlier because it was simply extremely silly.

Here you are claiming I tried to shift the goalpost when I never did.

Here was your goalpost shift which I just laughed when I saw it.



What we were discussing had absolutely nothing to do with that nonsense in bold you deliberately posted so as to shift the goalpost but I know you guys and how you function in such a cunning deceptive manner so I laughed when I saw it and ignored it. Now because I did not fall for your trick you now claim I am shifting the goalpost.

Ogbeni stop quoting me and go deal with your obviously deceptively, lying hypocritical self.

BUTTERFLYLEO, Have explained in layman's language the Senile Dementia of this arrogant demented atheist.
By debating you, Ruthlessleader is hoping to gain recognition and relevance.

Anas09:

So becos i said he is unbiased in his assessment of issues he is wrong?
He is wrong now becos he said the truth?

Why don't you pick the points he gave, analyze them and pin point where he is wrong?

I've always known you to be daft beyond repair.

Butterflyleo, you do a tremendous job school this kid. He has learned nothing from all the effort you have put in him, Chai.

So Johnydon22 is absolutely wrong becos i said he is rational, not from what he said.

Nonsense mumuhumanist.

No quote me again o. which kind mumu be this?

Unfotunately Superhumanist will ignore your respectful request to stop quoting you.
He dense o !

Butterflyleo:


He even likened johnnydon to being the worst atheist when he compared him to a worst christian.

The guy is on another level of stupidity.

I Have to agree with ANAS09, You can be the most brilliant teacher, but demented students such as Superhumanist and Ruthlessleader make you look bad.

It is time to Chuck them from your class, they are stifling progress.

Mathew 11:30 Jesus promised,
"For my yoke is easy, my burden is light."

Compare this with the experiential evidence of Atheism. Their yoke is exceedingly heavy and there burden is unbearable.

See for yourselves, examine atheists posts and experience the unbearable burden they place on themselves by evangelizing a destructive creed.

The satanically inspired prophet of modern atheism, Richard Dawkins, knew fully the atheists painful burden when he told atheists that "You were all once FISH."

budaatum:

Nope, religion has not been behind ... .

You and your sneaky question, "some of" !? That doesn't have a meaning!

Still, religion has not been behind the "greatest crimes against humanity we've witnessed". No religion has ever killed anyone. It is humans who are behind the greatest crimes, and achievements, we've ever witnessed. Some just sometimes chose god as their preferred weapon is all.

Wow, Check it out ! The Old BUDAATUM is back in town. Sober.

Nukilia:
The only way to enslave weak minds is tru religion

The most powerful role of all religions are to teach and demonstrate the reality of the spiritual dimension.

Atheists are fully aware that Satanism is a religion too, but they slyly focus their attack on other religions. ??