Osakwe is not a Bini name. If an Edo person bears the name, then know that the Edo person must have been influenced by the their Igboid(Ika) neighbors.

The letter "Kw" doesn't exist in Bini alphabet.

pazienza:
Osakwe is not a Bini name. If an Edo person bears the name, then know that the Edo person must have been influenced by the their Igboid(Ika) neighbors.

The letter "Kw" doesn't exist in Bini alphabet.

r u a bini person?

to end dis argument u dont have to take my word for it, just go n ask a benin person if osakwe is a bini name, what they tell is the truth, forget what me or anyone else will here

ariesbull:


We don't know you and we don't recognise you in a faceless forum ...tell your kings to say it or your statesmen

We don't listen to touts and urchins in the streets

so cuz i dont agree with u bout my tribe, im now a tout, my entire family dat said ikwerre is not igbo is a toutish family?, if i had said ikwerre is igbo then i would ve been responsible?

SMH, calling you a bush pig will be an insult to bush pig

viscerion:


osakwe is a bini name oo, i didnt need BSC n MSC to know that, one visit to benin and i saw countless bini people bearing d name, it is one of d most common bini names, and i learnt it means d same thing in bini and igbo.

well d good thing is if u keep insisting, its only who are not familiar with bini u maybe able to deceive, all bini people here and all those who know about bini very well, will know you are either lying or deceiving yourself, u can neither deceive them nor me

Point of correction:

1) Osa in Igbo names is the short form of Olisa/Olisabuluwa which means God. Just as we have Chi which is the short form of Chukwu. Chukwuemeka/Chiemeka, Chukwudi/Chidi, Chukwuoma/Chioma etc. Osa in Bini comes from 'Osanobua' vs Osa in Igbo from 'Olisa'. Coincidence in names and meaning.

Olisakwe/Osakwe....if God permits/agrees. Some people answer Chikwe instead. For eg, the popular Mrs Kema Chikwe from Imo state.

2) While both Osakwe/Osakhue in Igbo/Bini might sound familiar, the Binis do not have 'kw' in their original alphabet. Until recently, they have always spelt the name as Osakhue or Osakue. Any 'kw' usage in Bini language indicates a borrowing of the 'kw' feature from the Igbos. The equivalent of 'kw' in Bini would be 'kh' but going by recent prominence of 'kw' in usage in Bini, the Binis are starting to adopt 'kw' over their native 'kh'.

3) Igbos and Binis have quite a lot in common culturally and linguistically. Back in the day, the Nri held a strong religious influence in Ani Idu and surrounding environs such that the Binis borrowed the Igbo 4 market days of the week (Eke, Oye/Orie, Afor and Nkwo known respectively as Eken, Orie, Aho and Okuo in Bini). In addition to the Edos, the Igalas and Idomas adopted the Igbo system of market days. On the reverse side, the Bini influence on the Igbo-speaking people is felt more in Anioma land in their kingship structure and also some linguistic influence.

4) Ogbemudia is a Bini name which would surprise many Igbos when broken down - Ogbe mu dia = my lineage exists. Exactly the same meaning in Igbo, but hardly borne by Igbos only Binis.

Igbo Alphabet

bigfrancis21:


Point of correction:

1) Osa in Igbo names is the short form of Olisa/Olisabuluwa which means God. Just as we have Chi which is the short form of Chukwu. Chukwuemeka/Chiemeka, Chukwudi/Chidi, Chukwuoma/Chioma etc. Osa in Bini comes from 'Osanobua' vs Osa in Igbo from 'Olisa'. Coincidence in names and meaning.

Olisakwe/Osakwe....if God permits/agrees. Some people answer Chikwe instead. For eg, the popular Mrs Kema Chikwe from Imo state.

2) While both Osakwe/Osakhue in Igbo/Bini might sound familiar, the Binis do not have 'kw' in their original alphabet. Until recently, they have always spelt the name as Osakhue or Osakue. Any 'kw' usage in Bini language indicates a borrowing of the 'kw' feature from the Igbos. The equivalent of 'kw' in Bini would be 'kh' but going by recent prominence of 'kw' in usage in Bini, the Binis are starting to adopt 'kw' over their native 'kh'.

3) Igbos and Binis have quite a lot in common culturally and linguistically. Back in the day, the Nri held a strong religious influence in Ani Idu and surrounding environs such that the Binis borrowed the Igbo 4 market days of the week (Eke, Oye/Orie, Afor and Nkwo known respectively as Eken, Orie, Aho and Okuo in Bini). In addition to the Edos, the Igalas and Idomas adopted the Igbo system of market days. On the reverse side, the Bini influence on the Igbo-speaking people is felt more in Anioma land in their kingship structure and also some linguistic influence.

4) Ogbemudia is a Bini name which would surprise many Igbos when broken down - Ogbe mu dia = my lineage exists. Exactly the same meaning in Igbo, but hardly borne by Igbos only Binis.

Igbo Alphabet

really! well I didnt know this, I guess ure right, i neva agrued if there is 'kw' in bini or d origin of osakwe in bini, i only said that the name 'osakwe' exists in bini which u have proven, though its a modern form of original 'osakhue'. I dont know the names history but i know its there, i ve seen countless bini people answer the name

Youre right though, we learn everyday, i guess thats why its probably d only bini name with 'kw'

fero007:


I don't know why they take it so personal, well I can't tell you kwale people are ukwuani not Igbo, don't let anyone deceive by saying 'its like saying yorubas in kwara or Togo are not yorubas' both scenarios are different

You are just a fool. Are you trying to spark up the air

dprsauce:

You are just a fool. Are you trying to spark up the air

if u ve points to prove ur argument state them, like what bigfrancis21 did, instead of just insulting cuz no one will learn anything new from it

The first language of ireland is English irish is the native language barely spoken just as english isnt the native language of england but a mix of languageof the people tha moved to england mixed the the languageof those who colonised/ ruled england....france, latin.

ariesbull:


Please bear in mind that we have Irish names and English names ...these are not it


And these are not Irish names they are English names

Irish and English are completelydifferent languages. They are members of different branches of the Indo-European language family, Irish is Celtic and English is Germanic. Irishvocabulary is very different. The Irishalphabet is smaller.


Please, Irish don't speak English as a first language....they speak English as a form of second language just like us due to conquest ...don't mistake this


They are completely unrelated. Irish is an ancient Celtic language closely related to Scottish Gaelic and Manx and more distantly related to Welsh, Cornish and Breton. It is completely unrelated to English except at the level that English, Irish, Russian and Sanskrit are all Indo-European tongues.

ariesbull:

It's a lie

Osakwe Is the short form of Olisakwe

Just like Osemeka


I don't know why you guys are arguing...the last time I checked it's Ika Igbo is what they are calling them


Now argue with Google

Agbor is Ominijie and what does that mean in Benin
Agbor king is Obi or Dein ...what does that mean in Benin

"Ominije" ("Omini-eje" in Edoid language particularly in Urhobo language means, "Cosmopolitan Settlement" or congregation of people of diverse origin". Agbor was given that name because it was originally established/settled by diverse people who escaped from harsh and oppressive rules of ancient Edo monarchs. Several Urhobo-Isoko clans have ancient history of how they once lived in Agbor environs before finally migrated to their present homelands. I am from a clan in Urhoboland called "Agbon" Kingdom and our history tells of how our ancestors migrated from ancient "Udo" (near Benin) during the "Ogisos Dynasty" era and lived in Agbor (Ominije) vicinity where our ancestral patriarch "Agbon" had his first son who he named "Okpara", before he later moved with his family and settled in present Urhoboland. Till today there is a town in my Agbon Kingdom in Ethiope East LGA of Delta State called "Okpara" founded by descendants of the first son of Agbon. My point is that Agbor has a very strong Edo origin, and the name"Ominije" is no also of Edo origin no doubt.

fero007:


wats d meaning of okoro in urhobo sef

"Okoro" ("Oko-oro" can be interpreted as "precious or dearest friend".

ariesbull:
Osakwe means God has agreed
Osadebe means God has kept
Osaloka means God has remembered
Osaemeka means God has done so much
Osebuluwa means God who carries the world
Akaolisa or Akosa means the handwork of God
Osadinma means God is good

Now thank me for teaching you Igbo
LoL he has gone cursing.....
That's their attitude

Enwero m efe gi...Igbo wanna be



These are pure Igbo names

Mr Man Osakwe is a very Edo Name oo!!! Infact one of the most common !!

ariesbull

AutomaticMotors:
Mr Man Osakwe is a very Edo Name oo!!! Infact one of the most common !!

ariesbull

osakwe

ariesbull:


Kue and kwe aren't the same thing and there is nothing like kue in benin that I know ....so stop these lies ...it's not helping your case...what is meaning of Kue if there is anything like that in your Benin

Do you speak Edo language?

If you do, then you will not be arguing blindly about "kue" in Edo language.

For your education, "kue" in Edo language means "agree".

sotall:


Do you speak Edo language?

If you do, then you will not be arguing blindly about "kue" in Edo language.

For your education, "kue" in Edo language means "agree".

I speak Benin and there is nothing like Kue in Benin language


What we have us Gue ....Osagie , Osague and noting like Osakue


No dey lie

ariesbull:


I speak Benin and there is nothing like Kue in Benin language


What we have us Gue ....Osagie , Osague and noting like Osakue


No dey lie

You're still here standing fast on your ignorance even after evidence had been shown to you many times. This level of obtuse pigheadedness is admirable

You don't speak Benin, by the way. No need to lie.

ariesbull:


I speak Benin and there is nothing like Kue in Benin language


What we have us Gue ....Osagie , Osague and noting like Osakue


No dey lie

Its of no use educating your ignorance. But we hope one day you will have outgrown this phase of arguing ignorantly on the internet.

Now let's take a deeper look into the name "Osakwe"

Looking at this name, every good student of Nigerian culture and language will recognize the name is of Edoid origin and not igboid.

First the prefix "osa" is mainly used by Edoid groups in their names especially those who speak Edo language and it means God. Hence majority of those in Nigeria whose names begin or end with "osa" are from Edo state or speak an Edoid language.

On the other hand igbos and igboid group uses the prefix "Chi" and "chukwu" in their names as their own prefix and it also means God. So you find many igbo names with like Chidinma, chukwudi, Chinonso etc.

This gives another perspective on the origin of that name. Everything is not arguement, just learn and move on.

sotall:
Now let's take a deeper look into the name "Osakwe"

Looking at this name, every good student of Nigerian culture and language will recognize the name is of Edoid origin and not igboid.

First the prefix "osa" is mainly used by Edoid groups in their names especially those who speak Edo language and it means God. Hence majority of those in Nigeria whose names begin or end with "osa" are from Edo state or speak an Edoid language.

On the other hand igbos and igboid group uses the prefix "Chi" and "chukwu" in their names as their own prefix and it also means God. So you find many igbo names with like Chidinma, chukwudi, Chinonso etc.

This gives another perspective on the origin of that name. Everything is not arguement, just learn and move on.

How many Kue names exist among the Edo? I'm just asking for enlightenment purposes, as I have not heard any other one apart from Osakue. Can you make a little list, if you can?

But Kwe names are very typical among the Igbo:
Anikwe - If the Earth deity agrees
Uwakwe - If the world agrees
Mbakwe - If the community or town agrees
Ohakwe - If the public agrees
Agbarakwe - if the deity agrees
Ezekwe - if the Eze agrees (I don't like translating eze as king, as that is not what it originally meant)
Nzekwe - if the titled man agrees
Umunnakwe - if the kindred agrees
Igbokwe - if the community agrees

And the list just goes on....

Even if we accept the argument that 'osa' was originally derived from the Edoid, it was simply grafted unto a typical Igbo name structure.

Saying that Osakwe was borrowed from the Edoid is like saying Ijesurobo was borrowed from Latin. Ijesu is derived from the Latin name for Jesus, which is Jesu. But it was grafted unto an Edo naming pattern. You can actually observe other Edo names like Osarobo, Oghenerobo and Obarobo, which follow the same pattern. Osakwe follows a demonstrably Igbo name pattern.

How many other Edo names follow the Osakue pattern? It would be pretty telling if there were many Edo people bearing Obakue or Oghenekue for instance, but I don't think there are. (Feel free to correct me.) If other names of that pattern don't exist in Edoid or are not common in Edoid, then it will even be tempting to reach the conclusion that Edo Osakue was influenced by Igbo Osakwe, despite the 'osa' element possibly being originally an Edo loan.

RedboneSmith:


How many Kue names exist among the Edo? I'm just asking for enlightenment purposes, as I have not heard any other one apart from Osakue. Can you make a little list, if you can?

But Kwe names are very typical among the Igbo:
Anikwe - If the Earth deity agrees
Uwakwe - If the world agrees
Mbakwe - If the community or town agrees
Ohakwe - If the public agrees
Agbarakwe - if the deity agrees
Ezekwe - if the Eze agrees (I don't like translating eze as king, as that is not what it originally meant)
Nzekwe - if the titled man agrees
Umunnakwe - if the kindred agrees
Igbokwe - if the community agrees

And the list just goes on....

Even if we accept the argument that 'osa' was originally derived from the Edoid, it was simply grafted unto a typical Igbo name structure.

Saying that Osakwe was borrowed from the Edoid is like saying Ijesurobo was borrowed from Latin. Ijesu is derived from the Latin name for Jesus, which is Jesu. But it was grafted unto an Edo naming pattern. You can actually observe other Edo names like Osarobo, Oghenerobo and Obarobo, which follow the same pattern. Osakwe follows a demonstrably Igbo name pattern.

How many other Edo names follow the Osakue pattern? It would be pretty telling if there were many Edo people bearing Obakue or Oghenekue for instance, but I don't think there are. (Feel free to correct me.) If other names of that pattern don't exist in Edoid or are not common in Edoid, then it will even be tempting to reach the conclusion that Edo Osakue was influenced by Igbo Osakwe, despite the 'osa' element possibly being originally an Edo loan.

Just as there are many "kwe" names in igbo are there "kue" names in Edo.

Here is a list i can remember but there are so many others.

Osamakue
Ikuenobe
Ehikue
Iyalekue.


Now i repeat Osakwe is of Edoid origin, it is very obvious unless you can bring proof otherwise.

The core igbo speaking people do not use "osa" in their names. This "Osa" prefix/suffix is predominantly being used by the Edo speaking people.

If it was "chi" or "chukwu" , i bet no one will argue this. I would expect to hear Chukwukwe if it was an igboid name.

That some people are bearing Osakwe instead of Osakue doesn't make the name igboid. Its just spelling differences and doesn't change a thing.

sotall:


Just as there are many "kwe" names in igbo are there "kue" names in Edo.

Here is a list i can remember but there are so many others.

Osamakue
Ikuenobe
Ehikue
Iyalekue.

The fact that you cannot come up with many (as I and many Igbos easily can) demonstrates that it is significantly less common than kwe names in Igbo. Ikuenobe doesn't actually fit the pattern, so in essence all you gave me are three names. If I wanted I could go on and on. I could draw up my friend list on Facebook right down and come up with tens and tens of Igbo people with kwe names.

Now i repeat Osakwe is of Edoid origin, it is very obvious unless you can bring proof otherwise.

You yourself have not brought evidence that Osakwe was borrowed from Benin. Kwe is a bonafide Igbo word. Osa, Ose, Olisa, Olise may have ultimately been borrowed but it was integrated into Igbo cosmology, and the name could have been sourced from that native cosmology that had already absorbed Osa, without having to import the name wholesale from the Edo. Osejindu, Osemeke, Oseloka, Akaosa, Nwosa, etc. Were these names also borrowed from Edo because they possess the Osa prefix?

BTW, if we choose to follow this Osa argument to its logic conclusion, the origin may ultimately point to Yoruba, rather than Edo, origin. But let's not even go there. It would be unnecessary digressing.

The core igbo speaking people do not use "osa" in their names. This "Osa" prefix/suffix is predominantly being used by the Edo speaking people.

I don't do this core Igbo/non-core Igbo nonsense. My close friend from Agukwu-Nri goes by the name of Oseloka.

If it was "chi" or "chukwu" , i bet no one will argue this. I would expect to hear Chukwukwe if it was an igboid name.

Chukwukwe and Chikwe are well-used names among the Igbo. Now the Igbo communities who also used Orisa/Olisa and its contracted form, Osa, simply swapped out the Chi/Chukwu to get names like Orisakwe, Olisakwe and Osakwe, all of which are common among "Igboid" people, both in the southeast and the southsouth.

That some people are bearing Osakwe instead of Osakue doesn't make the name igboid. Its just spelling differences and doesn't change a thing.

It is not merely a spelling difference. Pronunciation is also different.
Ku-e and kwe are not pronounced the same. Edo doesn't have a kw sound. Saying this does not negate them being cognate, of course. But they are NOT pronounced the same way, and neither group borrowed kue/kwe from the other.

RedboneSmith:


The fact that you cannot come up with many (as I and many Igbos easily can) demonstrates that it is significantly less common than kwe names in Igbo. If I wanted I could go on and on. I could draw up my friend list on Facebook right down and come up with tens and tens of Igbo people with kwe names.



You yourself have not brought evidence that Osakwe was borrowed from Benin. Kwe is a bonafide Igbo word. Osa, Ose, Olisa, Olise may have ultimately been borrowed but it was integrated into Igbo cosmology, and the name could have been sourced from that native cosmology that had already absorbed Osa, without having to import the name wholesale from the Edo. Osejindu, Osemeke, Oseloka, Akaosa, Nwosa, etc. Were these names also borrowed from Edo because they possess the Osa prefix?

BTW, if we choose to follow this Osa argument to its logic conclusion, the origin may ultimately point to Yoruba, rather than Edo, origin. But let's not even go there. It would be unnecessary digressing.


I don't do this core Igbo/non-core Igbo nonsense. My close friend from Agukwu-Nri goes by the name of Oseloka.


Chukwukwe and Chikwe are well-used names among the Igbo. Now the Igbo communities who also used Orisa/Olisa and its contracted form, Osa, simply swapped out the Chi/Chukwu to get names like Orisakwe, Olisakwe and Osakwe.



It is not merely a spelling difference. Pronunciation is also different.
Ku-e and kwe are not pronounced the same. Edo doesn't have a kw sound. Saying this does not negate them being cognate, of course. But they are NOT pronounced the same way, and neither group borrowed kue/kwe from the other.

How many names did you list in your examples and how many did i give you? You asked for more and i gave you more.
Please go on and on and bring more examples and not just say it.

You admitting that "Osa" was borrowed and then refusing to see for yourself were it must have been borrowed from says a lot about the objectivity of your argument.

Ose/Osa or whatever variants of the word are all borrowed by igbo from Edoid speaking groups.

Saying igbo borrowed these words from other tribes and integrated it into their languages doesn't take anything from the igbos but the obvious has to be said.

There are also borrowed words in Edo language of igboid origin. This is just cultural influence and cultural acclimatization.

And your last paragraph trying to tell us that kue and kwe are pronounced differently reeks of someone desperately grasping at revisionism.

sotall:


Osamakue
Ikuenobe
Ehikue
Iyalekue.

Wait. I just tried to research these names, and I think you're trying to pull a hood over my eyes. The Kue part of most of them doesn't have anything to do with "agree", "allow" or "permit" which is what kue means in Osakue and what kwe means in Osakwe and all the Kwe names I have listed.

So it appears you have not been able to present me with another Edo name that follows the pattern under discussion.

Except for Ehikue. Incidentally, this name too exists in Ika as Ehikwe. 😂

While the ehi prefix is without doubt borrowed from Edo, I will argue that in the Ika area it was grafted unto a long-existing kwe name pattern of Igbo origin and then reborrowed by the Edo as Ehikue.

RedboneSmith:


Wait. I just tried to research these names, and I think you're trying to pull a hood over my eyes. The Kue part of most of them doesn't have anything to do with "agree", "allow" or "permit" which is what kue means in Osakue and what kwe means in Osakwe and all the Kwe names I have listed.

So it appears you have not been able to present me with another Edo name that follows the pattern under discussion.

Except for Ehikue. Incidentally, this name too exists in Ika as Ehikwe. 😂

While the ehi prefix is without doubt borrowed from Edo, I will argue that in the Ika area it was grafted unto a long-existing kwe name pattern of Igbo origin and then reborrowed by the Edo as Ehikue.

I am from Edo and i speak Edo language. And you know what i think about your rejoinder...a joke!

If arguing my language with me is what you can come up with, then you aren't worth the onions anymore to deserve my attention.


Get an Edo-speaking person to tell you the meaning of those names up there and stop messing around.

sotall:



And your last paragraph trying to tell us that kue and kwe are pronounced differently reeks of someone desperately grasping at revisionism.

Yes, they are not pronounced the same! If you have been calling your Igbo friend Osakue, you have been pronouncing his name wrong. Osakwe is pronounced with a strong kw- sound, like in other Igbo words like ụkwụ (leg) or Chukwu. Edo people who don't have this sound in their language will typically say uku and Chuku, except for those who have self consciously trained themselves to articulate the kw- sound.

So for you it is Osa-K-U-e. With a 'k' and a 'u' sounds.

For your Igbo friend it is Osa-KW-e. With a single 'kw' sound.

Learn the difference, oga.

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Get an Edo-speaking person to tell you the meaning of those names up there and stop messing around.

Don't be dodgy then. Provide their meanings. I provided the meanings of the Kwe words that I listed.

An Edo names dictionary says Iyalekhue (which you wrote as Iyalekue) means I forgive; and Ikuenobe means I will not succumb to evil.

You're more than welcome to correct what I saw in the dictionary. Set the record straight by telling us what the names mean.

RedboneSmith:


Yes, they are not pronounced the same! If you have been calling your Igbo friend Osakue, you have been pronouncing his name wrong. Osakwe is pronounced with a strong kw- sound, like in other Igbo words like ụkwụ (leg) or Chukwu. Edo people who don't have this sound in their language will typically say uku and Chuku, except for those who have self consciously trained themselves to articulate the kw- sound.

So for you it is Osa-K-U-e. With a 'k' and a 'u' sounds.

For your Igbo friend it is Osa-KW-e. With a single 'kw' sound.

Learn the difference, oga.

Stick to speaking igbo language and dont try to dabble into other languages you have no knowledge of.

Pronunciation of "Osakue" in Edo language has the "Kw" sound. It is not pronounced KU-e.
It is pronounced "Kwe". And it means "agree".


Stop soreading half truths and ignorance here.

Kue/kwe in Edo means agree. I can't easily remember another word in Benin(Edoid) language that mean agree apart from Kue/kwe. In other words, take kue away from Benin(Edoid), Benin will probably have no other word for agree. Considering the aforementioned, it is unlikely Benin could have borrowed this very important word, coupled with the fact that those that are now referred to as Edo have been in existence since antiquity.

I believe kue/kwe difference in pronunciation is due to the speaker..Igbo/Edo. They simply mean the same thing (agree)

It will be interesting to know if there is/are other Igbo words that mean agree. If there are other Igbo words that mean agree, It could be possible to deduce which branch of the wider Igbo family that contributed Kwe. It is safe to suggest that Edo influenced Anioma contributed the Osa, Ose...word/names in the wider Igbo language. Igbo, like yoruba is a conglomerate of different/diverse people who contributed to both the modern Igbo and Yoruba languages and cultures.

If there are other words in Igbo language that mean agree apart from Kwe, it will be safe to argue that Kwe/Kue could have travelled from Edo to Anioma and then into the Igbo language.

Meanwhile enjoy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPDfNzQXDxw

RedboneSmith:


Wait. I just tried to research these names, and I think you're trying to pull a hood over my eyes. The Kue part of most of them doesn't have anything to do with "agree", "allow" or "permit" which is what kue means in Osakue and what kwe means in Osakwe and all the Kwe names I have listed.

So it appears you have not been able to present me with another Edo name that follows the pattern under discussion.

Except for Ehikue. Incidentally, this name too exists in Ika as Ehikwe. 😂

While the ehi prefix is without doubt borrowed from Edo, I will argue that in the Ika area it was grafted unto a long-existing kwe name pattern of Igbo origin and then reborrowed by the Edo as Ehikue.

Osamakue also followed that naming pattern, there is also Ehimakue but it is not common. Both of them means God does not agree and Ehi does not agree. I dont think any of the languages borrowed the kue or kwe word from each other even though the OSA was undeniably borrowed from Edo. I mean outside the name, the kue word is used everyday for negotiation and so on. A word like agree or you agree certainly was not borrowed even though in names it seem to appear more in igboid lect. Edo is spoken along some 8,600 km2 of land. Over 8 to times larger than the Ika speaking space. That Ehi was borrowed from the the Ika and drifted into the Ika linguistic speech form and then Ehikwe was now borrowed by the Edo again does not really sit well with me as an Edo. If we are to talk about Ehikwe, what about Osakue, Osamakue, Ehimakue and so on. I mean these are names with standard meanings from the giver with an intention.

What about those communities on the far flung western frontiers that does not have any relationship with Ika. I do not subscribe to the fact that the Combination of OSA and Kue will have to be borrowed

RedboneSmith: Don't be dodgy then. Provide their meanings. I provided the meanings of the Kwe words that I listed.

An Edo names dictionary says Iyalekhue (which you wrote as Iyalekue) means I forgive; and Ikuenobe means I will not succumb to evil.

You're more than welcome to correct what I saw in the dictionary. Set the record straight by telling us what the names mean.

You keep asking questions and i keep clearing your doubts. Quit arguing, learn and move on.

Now see the names and their meanings in Edo language


Osakue....God agrees

Osamakue...God didn't agree

Ehikue...(my) spirit agrees

Ikuenobe....i wont/didnt agree/succumb to evil

Iyalekue....i forgive.

sotall:

Stick to speaking igbo language and dont try to dabble into other languages you have no knowledge of.

Pronunciation of "Osakue" in Edo language has the "Kw" sound. It is not pronounced KU-e.
It is pronounced "Kwe". And it means "agree".


Stop soreading half truths and ignorance here.

Riddle me this. Why isn't there a kw in the Edo alphabet then? You're pronouncing Kue fast and thinking you're saying 'kw'

Evboesi:
Osamakue also followed that naming pattern, there is also Ehimakue but it is not common. Both of them means God does not agree and Ehi does not agree. I dont think any of the languages borrowed the kue or kwe word from each other even though the OSA was undeniably borrowed from Edo. I mean outside the name, the kue word is used everyday for negotiation and so on. A word like agree or you agree certainly was not borrowed even though in names it seem to appear more in igboid lect. Edo is spoken along some 8,600 km2 of land. Over 8 to times larger than the Ika speaking space. That Ehi was borrowed from the the Ika and drifted into the Ika linguistic speech form and then Ehikwe was now borrowed by the Edo again does not really sit well with me as an Edo. If we are to talk about Ehikwe, what about Osakue, Osamakue, Ehimakue and so on. I mean these are names with standard meanings from the giver with an intention.

What about those communities on the far flung western frontiers that does not have any relationship with Ika. I do not subscribe to the fact that the Combination of OSA and Kue will have to be borrowed

There was nowhere I said Edo borrowed Kue from anybody, but okay.