006:

I wonder how much Kenyan Barack Obama is. At least Barack Obama has visited Kenya twice as an adult but you’ve only visited Alaigbo just once as a child, yet every time you come up here, you seem to be an authority on anything Igbo. You cannot be Igbo by reading texts alone, you have to feel it.

I thought we are of the understanding that Ibos, even yourselves, do not need to be in Iboland to be considered Ibo? I mean most all of you on nairaland who delude yourselves into believing you are authorities in all things Ibo don't even live in Iboland, no matter how many times you are willing to CLAIM you have yourselves been there. So, what are you on him about? You really think we are to believe you claiming you have been down there more times than the other man means you KNOW more about the poeple than he does?

^^^^^^

I wonder do you like to antagonize [b]IGBO [/b]men?

I think you enjoy it. Must be payback for a former IGBO boyfriend.

EzeUche:

I wonder do you like to antagonize [b]IGBO [/b]men?

I think you enjoy it. Must be payback for a former IGBO boyfriend.

I think she grew up in Igboland and has her grudges.

Kobojunkie:

I thought we are of the understanding that Ibos, even yourselves, do not need to be in Iboland to be considered Ibo? I mean most all of you on nairaland who delude yourselves into believing you are authorities in all things Ibo don't even live in Iboland, no matter how many times you are willing to CLAIM you have yourselves been there. So, what are you on him about? You really think we are to believe you claiming you have been down there more times than the other man means you KNOW more about the poeple than he does?

Easy, every Igbo is Igbo. My cousins and nephew born in North America are all Igbos but they can’t go as far as to start clamouring for a State for my village when they don't even know who and who are among their kinsmen or start talking about how the people feel right within Igboland with so much authority. I’ll look at them twice to know if something is wrong.

006:

I think she grew up in Igboland and has her grudges.

That explains it. No wonder she knows a lot about us. She most likely has an Igbo man in her life in which she does not have the pleasure of saying what she thinks about Igbos, that is why she comes online to antagonize us.

006:

We don't worship him, we revere him greatly for his sacrifice and values, so folks should take him out of their radar of people they’ll take a swipe at.

what sacrifice are you talking about that some igbo folks like chinenyeN do not appreciate ?

EzeUche:

That explains it. No wonder she knows a lot about us. She most likely has an Igbo man in her life in which she does not have the pleasure of saying what she thinks about Igbos, that is why she comes online to antagonize us.

Most likely.

006:

I think she grew up in Igboland and has her grudges.

Easy, every Igbo is Igbo. My cousins and nephew born in North America are all Igbos but they can’t go as far as to start clamouring for a State for my village when they don't even know who and who are among their kinsmen or start talking about how the people feel right within Igboland with so much authority. I’ll look at them twice to know if something is wrong.

You must be kidding me, right? So how much Ibo land experience does one need to have to SPEAK FOR or ASSERT oneself as an authority for all things Ibo as you continue to do here?

Please stop offering up bull arguments. There are so many IBO clubs out here claiming to speak for, and some go as far as making decisions for those who live FULLTIME in villages across iboland. Personally, I think it is an insult to Iboland for people like you, who do not live their FULLTIME to claim you are decision makers or authorities on all things ibo, while denying others in your own shoe the same right, with your reason being that you have more iboland experience, even though you all LIVE outside of iboland,  than they do.

006:

I think she grew up in Igboland and has her grudges.

Easy, every Igbo is Igbo. My cousins and nephew born in North America are all Igbos but they can’t go as far as to start clamouring for a State for my village when they don't even know who and who are among their kinsmen or start talking about how the people feel right within Igboland with so much authority. I’ll look at them twice to know if something is wrong.

Please learn to stick to the discussion at hand rather than trying in desperation to derail by attacking persons whom do not see things as you do.

Kobojunkie:

You must be kidding me, right? So how much Ibo land experience does one need to have to SPEAK FOR or ASSERT oneself as an authority for all things Ibo as you continue to do here?

Please stop offering up bull arguments. There are so many IBO clubs out here claiming to speak for, and some go as far as making decisions for those who live FULLTIME in villages across iboland. Personally, I think it is an insult to Iboland for people like you, who do not live their FULLTIME to claim you are decision makers or authorities on all things ibo, while denying others in your own shoe the same right, with your reason being that you have more iboland experience, even though you all LIVE outside of iboland,  than they do.

Please learn to stick to the discussion at hand rather than trying in desperation to derail by attacking persons whom do not see things as you do.

Hey Miss, hold on there, you’re argument most times is warped. How can someone who grew up in a place till his/her late 20s not know much about the place? Living outside a place one grew up does not mean one doesn’t know much about the place anymore. It’s quite different from someone who never lived in a place or has been there once as a child. So what are you talking about? If you don’t know much about Aba you always bring up here, stop talking about Aba.

I’m still in contact with most people in my street, get updates about everyone’s whereabouts, know about my town’s meetings, who passed on, who got married, who built a new house in the village and still communicate with so many of my kinsmen.

Anyway, this is outside the topic of this article, so I won’t reply to you again outside this ‘cause I know how the argument with you will go.

006, you assume too much. EzeUche, you talk too much, and apparently, both of you misunderstood my post. . . gravely.

006:

Hey Miss, hold on there, you’re argument most times is warped. How can someone who grew up in a place till his/her late 20s not know much about the place?

That you KNEW of the place does not mean you KNOW of the place. Key phrase here is 'GREW UP' . . . Even then, you only KNEW OF the people and events around you then and not ALL OF IBOLAND. Do not try to pretend that Iboland is so advanced that people growing up in Isiukwuato people could have ALL OF IBOLAND figured out just by being there. It is usually the case that they are clueless about happenings outside of their villages order than rumours and news reports they are lucky to get a hold of.

006:

Living outside a place one grew up does not mean one doesn’t know much about the place anymore.

Sorry, but there is a difference between knowing of the place your grew up in and claiming to know of and SPEAK FOR a whole region when you only grew up in a tiny hamlet within that region.

006:

It’s quite different from someone who never lived in a place or has been there once as a child. So what are you talking about? If you don’t know much about Aba you always bring up here, stop talking about Aba.

I can tell you that there are people who probably have never been to ibo land ever, but having invested so much time researching and investigating the history of areas in the iboland can give you a better picture of happenings in the zone than you can.

Again, he has been, he does not have to be their fulltime. You on the other hand claim you have been in some areas longer but you are not their fulltime so, again, how can you claim to be an AUTHORITY when you measure it all by your PERSONAL idea of who an authority should be on this issue? If an Ibo living fulltime in Ibo land came in here to tell you that you are just making noise and have no clue what you are yapping about, would you still be an AUTHORITY on all things Ibo then? Or proven just another Ibo who thinks too much of his opinion?

006:

I’m still in contact with most people in my street, get updates about everyone’s whereabouts, know about my town’s meetings, who passed on, who got married, who built a new house in the village and still communicate with so many of my kinsmen.

So? Most every Nigerian out there has the same story to tell,so what is your point?

006:
Anyway, this is outside the topic of this article, so I won’t reply to you again outside this ‘cause I know how the argument with you will go.

Yeah right!!!  lol

ChinenyeN:

006, you assume too much. EzeUche, you talk too much, and apparently, both of you misunderstood my post. . . gravely.

dont mind them jare.they are not just confortable seeing an igbo man not giving ojukwu leadership recognition.lol

ChinenyeN:

006, you assume too much. EzeUche, you talk too much, and apparently, both of you misunderstood my post. . . gravely.

Your communications have lots of subtleties in them either intentionally or unintentionally, you can tell me. So don’t try to be too clever in the manner you communicate with people because some people are more logical than you are and might find it disingenuous and annoying.

Again, 006, you're assuming too much. Would you like for me to break down my earlier posts for you, so that you can finally grasp what I was simply stated before? Or do you prefer to wallow in assumption?

Lastly, you don't know me. You don't know how active I am (or am not) in my people's diaspora amaala meetings. You don't know how active I am (or am not) in communicating with other diaspora amaala "chapters". You don't know how active I am (or am not) in communicating with friends and family in Nigeria, Igboland and ala Ngwa. You don't know how much I know (or don't know) about my people, and you don't know how much I know (or don't know) about the Igbo. So please, stop assuming. If you come across something I write and you feel there is a subtlety in it, ask. Don't assume. Onye ajuju anaghi efu uzo, they say. So ask, and make things easier for the both of us here on NL.

EzeUche, I don't have to write too much to you. The shorter my response, the more likely you are to understand it. So I'll simply tell you, "you don't know me at all. So stop".

~Bluetooth:

dont mind them jare.they are not just confortable seeing an igbo man not giving ojukwu leadership recognition.lol

Oh, I do recognize Ojukwu and his role, in the past, but the time "now" is a whole new chapter. I do have my thoughts on his leadership though, but here isn't the place to expound on it.

ChinenyeN:

Oh, I do recognize Ojukwu and his role, in the past, but the time "now" is a whole new chapter. I do have my thoughts on his leadership though, but here isn't the place to expound on it.

I'm sure your other igbo folks here would like to know what is it you dont want to talk about him

@ Nenye,

Nwanne, odighi ese. Anyi agaghi ano ndia etie anyi ihe gbaa anyi aja; ana ekwu na-agbaa anyi aja, ha ayukwasa anyi nsi n’isi.

~Bluetooth:

I'm sure your other igbo folks here would like to know what is it you dont want to talk about him

Nah, I've basically already been ostracized for not seeing my identity as synonymous with theirs, and for whatever reason, they seem to have made a habit of misunderstanding nearly everything I say. So, I'd rather not put myself through an unnecessary headache. If they want, they can start an Ndi Igbo, Let's Talk "Ojukwu" topic and have another "Igbo peoples meeting" like we did in the Igbo Extraction And Leadership Problem thread, and I'll chip in a few comments here and there.

~Bluetooth:

I'm sure your other igbo folks here would like to know what is it you dont want to talk about him

. . . and you think you're damn clever, eh??

006:

@ Nenye,

Nwanne, odighi ese. Anyi agaghi ano ndia etie anyi ihe gbaa anyi aja; ana ekwu na-agbaa anyi aja, ha ayukwasa anyi nsi n’isi.

Abegi  . .  go find better thing do with your time. This VICTIM crap needs to end. You continue to make ridiculous claims and expect people to swallow it all just because?

Kobojunkie:

Abegi . . go find better thing do with your time. This VICTIM crap needs to end.

This semi-Igbo woman, leave me alone.

006:

This semi-Igbo woman, leave me alone.

Maybe when you stop cooking up ridiculous bowls of mash and telling us you have the authority to do so on behalf of Ibos, maybe then I won't have to respond to most of what you post.

Now I am semi-Ibo and woman too. ROFLMAO!!!

ChinenyeN:

Again, 006, you're assuming too much. Would you like for me to break down my earlier posts for you, so that you can finally grasp what I was simply stated before? Or do you prefer to wallow in assumption?

Lastly, you don't know me. You don't know how active I am (or am not) in my people's diaspora amaala meetings. You don't know how active I am (or am not) in communicating with other diaspora amaala "chapters". You don't know how active I am (or am not) in communicating with friends and family in Nigeria, Igboland and ala Ngwa. You don't know how much I know (or don't know) about my people, and you don't know how much I know (or don't know) about the Igbo. So please, stop assuming. If you come across something I write and you feel there is a subtlety in it, ask. Don't assume. Onye ajuju anaghi efu uzo, they say. So ask, and make things easier for the both of us here on NL.

EzeUche, I don't have to write too much to you. The shorter my response, the more likely you are to understand it. So I'll simply tell you, "you don't know me at all. So stop".

Chinenye,

I don't like that haughty attitude of yours. It is unbecoming of an Igbo man. However, I do not blame you, you are a product of your environment. Always trying to talk like you understand the Igbo but never lived in Igboland.

Even this Kobojunkie character is more Igbo than you.

Stay away from Igbo issues, even though you are an Igbo, you do not understand us Igbo. Only someone who was born and raised understand the Igbo mind. Not some Igbo who was raised in Lagos and definitely not an Igbo raised in either the UK or the United State unless they came back home to live.

I knew that was something that was right. You acted like you understood the Ngwa mind if you probably have never been to your own village. You only hear stories probably from your parents. Diaspora Igbos are far out of touch with reality and do not what is happening back home. Come back home, I go back home every year and months there. Go to your village. And then finally talk to us.

There is only so much you can read about the Igbo in the books in which you have experience land YOURSELF!

006:

This semi-Igbo woman, leave me alone.

Chei! She knows too many of our ways. An enemy who even speaks our LANGUAGE!

006:

@ Nenye,

Nwanne, odighi ese. Anyi agaghi ano ndia etie anyi ihe gbaa anyi aja; ana ekwu na-agbaa anyi aja, ha ayukwasa anyi nsi n’isi.

e mee, a gbahnuo we onu.

from @EzeUche

EzeUche:

I don't like that haughty attitude of yours. It is unbecoming of an Igbo man.

Joke of the Day  

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EzeUche:

Chei! She knows too many of our ways. An enemy who even speaks our LANGUAGE!

Hahaha, don't try her, she's damn good!

EzeUche, my attitude isn't haughty, just fed up, especially with you. Regarding the rest of your post. . . you're still talking too much, and might I add, stupidly. Also, the response I gave to 006, also applies to you. Read. . .

ChinenyeN:

Lastly, you don't know me. You don't know how active I am (or am not) in my people's diaspora amaala meetings. You don't know how active I am (or am not) in communicating with other diaspora amaala "chapters". You don't know how active I am (or am not) in communicating with friends and family in Nigeria, Igboland and ala Ngwa. You don't know how much I know (or don't know) about my people, and you don't know how much I know (or don't know) about the Igbo. So please, stop [. . .] and make things easier for the both of us here on NL.

Re-think you approach towards me and my posts, so that all this unnecessary activity can stop.
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EzeUche:

Even this Kobojunkie character is more Igbo than you.

Stay away from Igbo issues, even though you are an Igbo, you do not understand us Igbo. Only someone who was born and raised understand the Igbo mind. Not some Igbo who was raised in Lagos and definitely not an Igbo raised in either the UK or the United State unless they came back home to live.

~Bluetooth, see what I mean?

Kobojunkie:

Now I am semi-Ibo and woman too. ROFLMAO!!!

Ok, semi-Igbo girl,    I beg, no vex.

ChinenyeN:

EzeUche, my attitude isn't haughty, just fed up, especially with you. Regarding the rest of your post. . . you're still talking too much, and might I add, stupidly. Also, the response I gave to 006, also applies to you. Read. . .
So please. . . re-think you approach towards me and my posts.
[center]--------------------------------------------------------------[/center]~Bluetooth, see what I mean?

I shall dispatch you like I do anyone who thinks there are high and mighty and must be brought low.

It is bad that you only visited Igboland once and that was when you were a child. Like 006 said, even Obama visited his fatherland twice as an adult when he was in school. What is your excuse?

What makes it even worse is that you act like you are some authority on the Ngwa or the Igbo. I rather talk to someone who was raised in Ngwaland then some who can only knows things through hearsay. You cannot say you experienced your land either.

So until you live amongst your people for years, no Igbo in Nairaland will take you seriously. Stop talking like you know everything cause you don't. You only know the book, and have not experienced it.

006:

@ Nenye,

Nwanne, odighi ese. Anyi agaghi ano ndia etie anyi ihe gbaa anyi aja; ana ekwu na-agbaa anyi aja, ha ayukwasa anyi nsi n’isi.

oops!!.sounds like somebody is not happy here,i guess

ke l'e me gbuo? Okay. Let me just take my time and address these, because with the way you're talking, someone could just come by and actually take you seriously, and then erroneously assume stuff about me that aren't. Anyway, on to the dissection. Also, I'm in a very sarcastic mood today. . . so take no offense. No vex, a begi.

EzeUche:

I shall dispatch you like I do anyone who thinks there are high and mighty and must be brought low.

Really? I know I thought of myself as non-synonymous. I did not know that I also thought of myself as high and mighty. Thanks for letting me know what I think of myself. It's always very helpful whenever someone who doesn't have access to your mind tells you all about yourself.

EzeUche:

It is bad that you only visited Igboland once and that was when you were a child. Like 006 said, even Obama visited his fatherland twice as an adult when he was in school. What is your excuse?

I'm sure 006 and I actively discussed this a while ago, and I remember your presence in that thread where we discussed it. So this ought not be part of the discussion.

EzeUche:

What makes it even worse is that you act like you are some authority on the Ngwa or the Igbo. I rather talk to someone who was raised in Ngwaland then some who can only knows things through hearsay. You cannot say you experienced your land either.

Pray tell, where have I acted like an authority on the Ngwa or the Igbo? Where have I raised myself on a pedestal and spoke for all Ngwa or all Igbo? I know I make general statements based on the attitudes I witness and the discussions I have with other Ngwa. So I know I talk in reference to general Ngwa, but I don't speak for all Ngwa. Same applies to the general Igbo populace. I make general statements based on the attitudes I witness and the discussions I have with other Igbo, and so I know that I do speak in reference to general Igbo, but never for all Igbo. So, I'm at a loss regarding where I have supposedly made myself an authority on 'All Things Ngwa and Igbo'.

EzeUche:

So until you live amongst your people for years, no Igbo in Nairaland will take you seriously.

Oh, of course. It is a requirement to have lived amongst my people first before I can be considered legitimate; before I can be considered "nnwa afo"; before I can be considered "Ngwa bu Ngwa". I don't know why that slipped my mind.

EzeUche:

Stop talking like you know everything cause you don't. You only know the book, and have not experienced it.

Okay. I could respond, but my posts on NL are enough to counter to this little quote without me having to make any real contribution.

Roflmao!!!!