iammo:
I only pity soldiers in the northeast from southern origin, as usual northern leaders and commoners would be silent. There was heavy massacre in sokoto for two days straight no northern leader made any statement. As a matter of fact they were all concerned with ekiti elections

No Sir, don't pity any soldier. Were they not among the soldiers sent to molest Nnamdi KANU? Were they not the ones that bombed Numan villages for Fulani? The pilot (captain) is a southern. The weak military had to take cover under civilian protection at Geidam. You see karma? Flexing muscles with civilians in Ekiti.

Wonderful! Saint Buhari provided world class arms for them. WEAK, WEAK WEAK MILITARY.

WE ARE AT THE MERCY OF GOD and not under the protection of the military.

SSGN:
I implore you all to ask yourselves...how is it that each time Boko Haram is dealt with, there is a few months hiatus, then they bounce back, often in such spectacular fashion worthy of a Hollywood blockbuster movie. We will be doing ourselves a major disservice by pretending the Nigerian Army hasn't made major gains and stride, considering it practically had to be re restructured. You all sit in your rooms spewing out crap in a predictive manner, lambasting the men and women in the front.

Ask yourselves..how is it Boko Haram bounces back each time? They no longer even have a major stronghold. Where re the weapons coming from? Hiw do they get real time intelligence on the movement of Nigerian troops? There are six drone bases in the region....could it be there are external players whi stand to gain from a Nigeria in continuous chaos? There is practically a civil war brewing in Cameroon now, where a murderous dictators is killing women and children, yet mysteriously the world is silent.

What has the world focused on for the last two months? Its not the human rights violations and killings in Cameroon. Nope.....its Nigeria. Nigerian soldiers rapeing thousands Boko Haram captives, which is borderline insane. Now suddenly Boko Haram is BACK. And we Nigerians, as usual in a predictive manner go gun blazing with this sick self hating stupidity. You arm chair generals spewing crap think war is a video game. You are the critical elements the powers that be need to push their agenda of a Nigeria ungovernable. You dont think. Where are the weapons coming from? How come the rate of terrorism increases anywhere the United States behin building drone bases. You think these Boko Haram guys are clairvoyant? They just know where to attack at the rjght time with the right number of men?

The summary of the matter is that:
NE NIGERIA is the next Libya in the making.
The oil in the Chad basin is not for us(Nigeria)
Our defense intelligence is rather reactive than proactive.

All them "diplomats" in NIA are not patriotic but self serving. One other thing, you made mention of Arm chair generals it will interest you to know that most of them are verrrrrrrry patriotic but weren't given the chance to prove themselves. In my days I participated in many military screening exercises so I know.

Let's hope for the best, but hope alone can't get things done.

A personal one, my close friend is an LT from SSC yr 014. Drafted to the sappers, told him since he's a demo it will make sense after his Counter Force training he should head SS for amphibious training to be able to do some good damage. My paddy laugh say im salary na to start life first that Nigeria should defend itself. He's cooling off in one highway sector. Most of these training are just for the ribbon, no one wants to fight. NA is not what it used to be. No Intel officer wants to risk his life, they just love the profile.

Acjohn:
I hope its Buhari's brothers that are affected because I can't understand why he will be releasing some captured bokoharam members because he felt they are repentant.
To add salt to injury he is adding them to the armed forces of Nigeria.

God will continue to punish them a hundred folds.

Oblitz:
Our leaders are irresponsible


#ourleadersareirresponsible

No Sir, the Followers are as useless as the P in psychology.

The problem of Nigeria is the followers.

truthtosinknaij:
If this is true, the repercussion is huge;
It effectively means a huge stockpile of arms and ammunition are in the hands of Boko Haram as most military bases act as a store.
It means communities up and down the country are sitting duck to these marauds.
It means the country is effectively finished.

You are correct. It's deliberate. An average Northerner (military, paramilitary) is boko haram sympathetic.

If critically look at how Buhari handles boko haram you will agree with me.

Google his past comments on BH to confirm.

NairaMaster1:


No Sir, don't pity any soldier. Were they not among the soldiers sent to molest Nnamdi KANU? Were they not the ones that bombed Numan villages for Fulani? The pilot (captain) is a southern. The weak military had to take cover under civilian protection at Geidam. You see karma? Flexing muscles with civilians in Ekiti.

Wonderful! Saint Buhari provided world class arms for them. WEAK, WEAK WEAK MILITARY.

WE ARE AT THE MERCY OF GOD and not under the protection of the military.

We still got to pity them Sir, In the army if you dare disobey a command it's called mutiny and can cost them dismissal. And only a seating president can order or authorize and air operation So Buhari is more responsible for the air attack than the poor pilot used as a willing tool. No matter what I think we southerners should start supporting our own. I sympathize with you on the Evil act in south east With all the atrocities going on in the middle belt gowon and IBB still wouldn't say a word.

KingsCity:
A battalion of almost 1000 soldiers defeated in 2hrs!

My brother, I just tire.

The news even said the aggressive enemy force was in the hundreds!!!!!

Hundreds against seven hundred, yet they retreated. Something isn't right.

Did our soldiers lack weapons and ammo/ Was there no air support?

Why would the commander order a retreat? Or is he a Boko-Haram apologist?

Should APC loose the presidential election and a probe is ordered into the defense budget, i won't be surprised if they discover that the looting of funds meant for weapons and ammo by top-ranking Generals also continued in the Buhari administration with somebody as ATM just like Sambo Dasuki

Hedonisst:


This is beyond shocking really. There's simply no excuse other than extreme cowardice and or sabotage/complicity.

Bros, you just echoed one of my sentiments earlier.

This news would warrant a Military Police investigation in a saner society. I mean, the enemy wasn't really numerically superior unless the news outlet was lying. The commander would've been stripped of his command and investigated.

It's either complicity, cowardice or his superiors failed him by not ensuring they had enough ammo

I am seriously pissed right now

Ugosample:



Six ex soldiers from different divisions saved the American consulate in Libya

Six soldiers.


So these soldiers are being set up for a long ting because I see that these people benefiting from it are not ready for it to end.

Even a single platoon of regular soldiers with enough communications with headquarters and air-support would hold

I'm ashamed of our soldiers. The army needs a total revamp. From training, to kits to tactics.

All pot-belly fools parading themselves as commanders ought to be discharged. They are only interested in blowing convoys and harassing innocent civilians.

pacino26:


The summary of the matter is that:
NE NIGERIA is the next Libya in the making.
The oil in the Chad basin is not for us(Nigeria)
Our defense intelligence is rather reactive than proactive.

All them "diplomats" in NIA are not patriotic but self serving. One other thing, you made mention of Arm chair generals it will interest you to know that most of them are verrrrrrrry patriotic but weren't given the chance to prove themselves. In my days I participated in many military screening exercises so I know.

Let's hope for the best, but hope alone can't get things done.

A personal one, my close friend is an LT from SSC yr 014. Drafted to the sappers, told him since he's a demo it will make sense after his Counter Force training he should head SS for amphibious training to be able to do some good damage. My paddy laugh say im salary na to start life first that Nigeria should defend itself. He's cooling off in one highway sector. Most of these training are just for the ribbon, no one wants to fight. NA is not what it used to be. No Intel officer wants to risk his life, they just love the profile.

This sounds like a very interesting excuse for mediocrity.

Please could you elaborate further with examples as to the veracity of your comments?

SSGN:
I implore you all to ask yourselves...how is it that each time Boko Haram is dealt with, there is a few months hiatus, then they bounce back, often in such spectacular fashion worthy of a Hollywood blockbuster movie. We will be doing ourselves a major disservice by pretending the Nigerian Army hasn't made major gains and stride, considering it practically had to be re restructured. You all sit in your rooms spewing out crap in a predictive manner, lambasting the men and women in the front.

Ask yourselves..how is it Boko Haram bounces back each time? They no longer even have a major stronghold. Where re the weapons coming from? Hiw do they get real time intelligence on the movement of Nigerian troops? There are six drone bases in the region....could it be there are external players whi stand to gain from a Nigeria in continuous chaos? There is practically a civil war brewing in Cameroon now, where a murderous dictators is killing women and children, yet mysteriously the world is silent.

What has the world focused on for the last two months? Its not the human rights violations and killings in Cameroon. Nope.....its Nigeria. Nigerian soldiers rapeing thousands Boko Haram captives, which is borderline insane. Now suddenly Boko Haram is BACK. And we Nigerians, as usual in a predictive manner go gun blazing with this sick self hating stupidity. You arm chair generals spewing crap think war is a video game. You are the critical elements the powers that be need to push their agenda of a Nigeria ungovernable. You dont think. Where are the weapons coming from? How come the rate of terrorism increases anywhere the United States behin building drone bases. You think these Boko Haram guys are clairvoyant? They just know where to attack at the rjght time with the right number of men?

Good points, especially about the possibility of the US connection.

My guess is that this soldiers are mostly southerners,that they were set up by there northern commanders for annihilation,so that in the event of mass rigging that will take place in 2019 the northern soldiers station in the south will suppress any eventuality.

SouthEastFacts:
They were busy rigging the Ekiti election.

Sore loser, you will cry again next year

darkelf:


This sounds like a very interesting excuse for mediocrity.

Please could you elaborate further with examples as to the veracity of your comments?

Usually I'll laugh and put up a funny meme but let me break tradition and come to the simplest of terms. SSBN took a swipe at folks here "arm chair generals" because they are making analysis to the best of their limited knowledge(military info are not made public) given facts on ground. I reminded him they are good and patriotic citizens denied the right to prove themselves.

You get it now?

bravehost4u:


I concur, they probably retreated. Imagine commander wey suppose dey command don run 60km already

If na you nko?

First we must learn not to always shift goal posts



Some people are saying U.S and maybe France are involved in BH operations



To me, that's laughable because currently the man in charge of the U.S doesn't seem to be interested in such frivolities



You can accuse him of a lot, but to sponsor terrorism in the third-world which he regards as shithole..... I guess not.


Our military are doing a fantastic job, but do they have the wherewithal? Most of them are not accessible to sophisticated weaponry


BH is a common enemy dat grew because of levity, and same levity is used to handle the herdsmen menace in the country


Internal forces know about BH no doubts



But to start blaming nations like France who also occasionally experience such attacks as in the case of Paris, U.S as in 9/11 and London amongst others is not just unfair, it is plain dumb.

hmmm

That is bad that NO air support for the troop

Why wouldn't they be overran? The security and military might is focused on winning election and suppressing opposition.... not stopping terrorism.

post=69412810:
They should be brought to book ASAP

lol...brought who to book? person wey get upper hand against you,abi the one that has been technically defeated?

iammo:


slowpoke, am a Muslim and a proud yoruba, whatever you uneducated codiene socked people do with your lives that's fine, what else do I expect when you are all birthed like rats in multiples. Now check all human development index and see how sorry you should be. From high illetracy, polio and preventable desease outbreak, to VVF and UGF due to pedophilic tendencies

iammo:


We still got to pity them Sir, In the army if you dare disobey a command it's called mutiny and can cost them dismissal. And only a seating president can order or authorize and air operation So Buhari is more responsible for the air attack than the poor pilot used as a willing tool. No matter what I think we southerners should start supporting our own. I sympathize with you on the Evil act in south east With all the atrocities going on in the middle belt gowon and IBB still wouldn't say a word.

Very pleased to see a young turk realising how important it is to forge a southern solidarity, which is a cause I've been campaigning for so long like a lone voice in the wilderness.

This whole Yoruba/Igbo cosmetic beef and mutual suspicion is doing us more harm than good. The North is a common threat and a deadly one at that, and as long as the South ignores this ominous truth and continues playing the apathetic ostrich, we shall all become cannon fodder for these blood-sucking beasts sooner than later. They're slowly advancing, BH on one flank, Herdsmen on the other. Already, they have boots on the ground all over the South, and they can easily overrun Lagos right now if their leaders give the orders. It seems like a joke now but wait let them finish annexing the Middle Belt...

The South has to shamelessly unite, pool resources together, and wage this war against a ruthless and covetous enemy. And the Middle Belt has to join us (because we share similar liberal heritage, tendencies, and way of life - not to mention a common enemy). The first step is to put our lives on the line to prevent Buhari from winning any polling booth anywhere in the South and the Middle Belt next year. It may seem like I'm talking politics rather than the issue on ground, but we must realise that this entire problem begins and ends with politics. After all, politics is war by other means, just as war is a continuation of politics (Clausewitz). Electing a certifiably liberal northerner in place of Buhari next year would at least slow down the Northern expansionist agenda and give us breathing space to strategize and plot the next move.

It is an existential threat, and the time to start challenging this threat is now. Tomorrow may be too late.

and some confused minions from West still went ahead and vote for this evil party APC..
how I wish boko haram navigation West

Overrun! It is finished

It so quick for majority of you to sit and insult the military when some of you only at the sound of teargas your almost dead. Keep allowing the President and other leader fool you with what equipment are the soldiers going to fight with or the counted bullet issued that can't last for an hour gunfire fight or motivation we loose our boys on a daily and this shithole leaders are less concerned may they experience this attack maybe just maybe the would situp and really see to proper funding and structuring our security institutions RIP to our failing Gallant Officers and their neglected family my God's favour see you all through. Those in front line protection of God see us through. Who no go No dey Know

Ugosample:


well you cannot blame the country completely
The soldiers go through a lot.

Take that from me, whose relations served in, and a few are still serving in the army.

Their superior at the defence hq are wicked, under equipping them, slashing their allowances etc
I can't say other stuff because I'm on this forum and it's public, but know this......

The ogas at the top wants this to continue for their enrichment

ofcourse its not the fault of the foot soldiers, its the nigeria corrupt system that made sure nothing work even if you have the best intentions...the ogas started from somewhere with so much zeal to serve but along the line got indoctrinated into the system.....its not the people that is bad but the system with its faulty foundations...the problem of the nigeria army is obvious and present in all sector of the country business

iammo:


We still got to pity them Sir, In the army if you dare disobey a command it's called mutiny and can cost them dismissal. And only a seating president can order or authorize and air operation So Buhari is more responsible for the air attack than the poor pilot used as a willing tool. No matter what I think we southerners should start supporting our own. I sympathize with you on the Evil act in south east With all the atrocities going on in the middle belt gowon and IBB still wouldn't say a word.

Better I IBB. Gowon has come out to tell the whole world not to blame Buhari for the herdsmen's killing.
Gowon?

Omoikarekimire:


Nigerian military need to change their security architecture.They must know intel gathering and use of drones to fight the Boko haram is a must.

Correct

I have no facts, but extrapolating from events so far in Nigeria, my strong feeling is that some foreign force, either in the West or Islamic world is trying to destroy Nigeria through the combination of, tying the army down, turning Nigerians against one another and orchestrating a farmine. Right now they are at war with not only the Nigerian army, civil society online but with your Nigerian farmers.

....the idea that forces abroad may be working hard on orchestrating a farmine in Nigeria beggars belief. We live in a truly evil world...


As an aside, I have this uncomfortable thought that some aid Agencies, ones established in your backyard, are powerful enough to feed conflict: the idea being that this huge, unwieldy machinery needs misery in order to generate finances to exist. It's as if they need to be relevant, so they facilitate misery in order to save you.And of course, the West love nothing better than if you are dependant on thire agencies through which you are greatful for their benevolence.

pacino26:


Usually I'll laugh and put up a funny meme but let me break tradition and come to the simplest of terms. SSBN took a swipe at folks here "arm chair generals" because they are making analysis to the best of their limited knowledge(military info are not made public) given facts on ground. I reminded him they are good and patriotic citizens denied the right to prove themselves.

You get it now?

Excuse me but fúck all that classified mumo jumbo y'all spilling to make it look like they are competent. Its simple logic. If they are competent where is the evidence. Almost 10 years and this BH shít is still strong. Make we hear word arm chair generals is a bit too kind sef. Peppersoup generals is more apt

Litmus:
I have no facts, but extrapolating from events so far in Nigeria, my strong feeling is that some foreign force, either in the West or Islamic world is trying to destroy Nigeria through the combination of, tying the army down, turning Nigerians against one another and orchestrating a farmine. Right now they are at war with not only the Nigerian army, civil society online but with your Nigerian farmers.

....the idea that forces abroad may be working hard on orchestrating a farmine in Nigeria beggars belief. We live in a truly evil world...


As an aside, I have this uncomfortable thought that some aid Agencies, ones established in your backyard, are powerful enough to feed conflict: the idea being that this huge, unwieldy machinery needs misery in order to generate finances to exist. It's as if they need to be relevant, so they facilitate misery in order to save you.And of course, the West love nothing better than if you are dependant on thire agencies through which you are greatful for their benevolence.

Niggerians never seek practical solutions to a problem now you sound like your president blaming phantom opposition for the mess Niggerians created. You need to read posts here to get an idea of how hateful the average Niggerian really is

Jaqenhghar:

Nigerians never seek practical solutions to a problem now you sound like your president blaming phantom opposition for the mess Niggerians created. You need to read posts here to get an idea of how hateful the average Niggerian really is

I'm a Nigerian, move among Nigerians, visit Nigeria often, travel around Nigeria and i don't recognize your Nigerians or those portrayed falsely online. In addition, for someone like me who has mixed with Africans in the West, that did not realize that i was Nigerian (what an eye-opener), I've come to appreciate that Nigerians are some of the best people in Africa - Good hearted, open, (very clued-on) and very helpful.

Nigerians abroad regularly help one another and other Africans but often are betrayed to authorities by other Africans - fact!