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Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by Nobody: 2:59am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:

Why God Forbid?. . .i've had me a couple of hot akata chicks in my lifetime. . but i cant see myself marrying one though

I could never pass for an AA. . .cause i still got that Unique Naija accent,so once i speak everyone knows he aint American. . .lol


hehehe, I think it's mostly because I grew up with Miami kids. I didnt live in Miami tho. Most of them were ghetto, anoying as hell. No bright future, crazy mofos ready to fight at the slightest move.

Yea, the akatas are okay to mess with. . . . for men. But I've had to refuse their dating offers. Their men have no credibility or sense of responsibility, rubbish ppl embarassed Imagine a man calling you a b.i.tch and telling you to shut up. . . . . and then you're [i]expected [/i]to laugh at his expensive jokes. WTF?

heheehe naija accent. "I want some warra" grin
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 3:02am On Jul 04, 2010
UcheUwadi_:

As someone who is mixed with Igbo and African American, I must say that there is some resentment in both communities. You will hear derogatory remarks coming from both groups.

But I don't think it is outright resentment. Africans who were raised in America tend to blend in with Black Americans so they do not have much of a problem. And many Black American women are attracted to Africans.

I think this little drama is way overblown.

Now I see both sides of the fence due to the fact of my mixed ethnic heritage.






EzeUche:

^^^^^^^

Gbam!

And that UcheUwadi man might be on to something. Being mixed, he probably knows a lot more about the issue than any of us and I doubt Bkbaybe can speak for anyone! Let alone African Americans.


Lol. Of course u'd say that! Fool! Uche Uwadi is probably one of ur aliases!lol Why do I throw this out there?


1. Started off trying to convince us he was Ibo and African-American. Ended up still trying to convince us he was Ibo and African-American! Me? I smell a straight-up Biafran!


2. Kept referring to African-Americans as "Black-Americans". "Black American" is a term we deem offensive. Another Ibo man error I see here!


3. He said he was "IGBO"! Lol. HAHAHAHAHA. Need I say more on this? Ibo or Igbo! The "Black American" chose "Igbo". Ezeuche Uchenna , which of ur "mans" did u put on to this? Lol.
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by naijamini(m): 3:02am On Jul 04, 2010
@bk/babe99
Actually I read you loud and clear, although you stated it in a sacarstic manner. What you wrote below confirms that this is the way you feel. From my viewpoint, this is the source of our potential friction. Africans grow and live in a completely different reality than the African-American, but each seems to be thinking we should have the same worldview simply because we had a common past. This is not true at all. The great names that you mentioned are common knowledge to African-Americans, but go to the street of Lagos and mention those names and see the blank stare that you get.  Why are the rappers more prominently known? Simply this, those are who people see. Even among African-Americans the young are likely to be more in tune with these rappers than the heros that are really worth emulating. This is an ongoing fight in the community, so don't be surprised that Africans that grow and live under even more oppressive regimes and almost completely unaware of your experience, don't have a clue about what our common history implies. When an African finally allows himself to stop and read some of these history they develop the proper perspective, although some are completely without redemption in their twisted views. In the same way, African-Americans need to be more aware that their struggle against the oppression they still experience today actually seems more endurable than the b-as-tard leaders that rule the mother continent. We will find that the freedom we desire are more alike if we cut out the incorrect imposition of worldviews on each other's experiences.

Besides, there is no need to answer for the person I met. We talked more than what I have said here, and it was clear that he cared about Africans and is not too happy that some of those he has met don't seem to recognize the common bond between us. I believe that once we stop making incorrect assumptions, we would finally figure out the proper reasons that would lead us in the right direction.

bk/babe99:

Foolish Biafran! Clearly the poster mistakened my sarcasm as sincerity! Even the dead skin cells at the bottom of my feet are more intelligent than u, homo!Like I said we really dont give a funck about yall! What we know is this: Yall been brainwashed to think African Americans are a hopeless bunch! Yall been conditioned to ignore the likes of Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Condoleeza Rice, Collin Powell ect . Uve been made to believe we're all Nicky Barnes', Guy Fishers, Gangsta Rappers and Athletes. Regardless Tho, the average African American could care less about native Africans. The ones who do, want to find out more about their heritage; and thats a very small minority of us. Me? I know where I'm from, I'm just trying to figure out where I'm heading to. Meaning? Could care less about yall; i'm thinking more about me and my loved ones!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by paddylo1(m): 3:03am On Jul 04, 2010
heheehe naija accent. "I want some warra"

Lol.  .Naija accent sweet oh. . hmmn

I have even gotten laid cause of this ma Naija accent. . .


Its the best accent in West Africa. . IMO
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by Nobody: 3:06am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:

lol.  .Naija accent sweet oh. . hmmn

Its the best accent in West Africa. . IMO

I have even gotten laid cause of this ma Naija accent. . .

She must have been cheap to bleep u because of your accent undecided tongue
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 3:10am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:

The eyes are always red homie. . . Did i scare u young thug?. . .why not run to your room hide under your bed and hug a Teddie

As for my pic. . u not supposed to like it. . thats for the ladies fool. . .






Scare me? lol. u anorexic lil thing; I could easily crush ur oesophagus and larynx with just three fingers of my left hand, while patting ur awful "Craig Mack" with the two remaining fingers! For the ladies indeed!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by paddylo1(m): 3:11am On Jul 04, 2010
She must have been cheap to bleep u because of your accent

I dont think she was cheap. . .ill just say she was intrigued. . .she said my accent was sexy

Just the way u might feel about a black French guy whispering in your ear. . .lol
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 3:14am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:

Lol.  .Naija accent sweet oh. . hmmn

I have even gotten laid cause of this ma Naija accent. . .


Its the best accent in West Africa. . IMO


Lie of the Century! Now the world-wide, horribly-known, hard-to-understand Nigerian accent has on this day July 3rd, 2010, been place on the same level as the sweet sounding, sultry, and sexy French, Italian, Spanish, British, Greek and German accents, by none other than our resident "red-eyes".


P.S:Then again, she coulda been a Fat crack fiend! Yeah, that'll count!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 3:15am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:


Just the way u might feel about a black French guy whispering in your ear. . .lol


I take it, from ur statement, You've had experience with a French guy whispering in ur ears!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by paddylo1(m): 3:28am On Jul 04, 2010
I take it, from your statement, You've had experience with a French guy whispering in your ears!

Nope. . Am a black guy with a unique accent(Not AA,Not carribean),so the chick fell for me

For Fl_gators to understand my analogy,she has to think of being with a black guy with a unique accent(Not AA,Not Caribbean,not Naija),hence French

Get it?. . .I guess dude was right,u really are brainless. . .
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by Nobody: 3:30am On Jul 04, 2010
@paddy lo

It depends on what kinda accent you got.
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 3:32am On Jul 04, 2010
FL Gators:

hehehe, I think it's mostly because I grew up with Miami kids. I didnt live in Miami tho. Most of them were ghetto, anoying as hell. No bright future, crazy mofos ready to fight at the slightest move.

Yea, the akatas are okay to mess with. . . . for men. But I've had to refuse their dating offers. Their men have no credibility or sense of responsibility, rubbish ppl embarassed Imagine a man calling you a b.i.tch  and telling you to shut up. . . . . and then you're [i]expected [/i]to laugh at his expensive jokes. WTF?

heheehe naija accent. "I want some warra" grin

So, they werent no classy Miami Kids in your neighborhood? Man, Princess Fiona, shut the hell up boi! This is wut kills me about Nigerians! Your parents raise u in the Projects, then u wanna get mad at the world. Thinking u better than your hosts! If it was that easy, while your dad was working his 18hr/day cab shift he coulda bought a house in, say, Chesapeake Bay or Nahant,MA and raised u there, that way u wouldnt have had to ever see those horribbly "ghetto Miami kids".

 Talking about "bright futures";  your country has a bright future, huh? And what African-American would wanna date you to begin with? YOU THINK WE'RE A BUNCHA EZEUCHES?!? lol. Rubbish people, huh? They call women bi.ches and tell u to shut up? We're also the Nigerian men that killed their wives in droves (in Dallas ) and its surrounding areas after bringing them from Africa?! Yall just a buncha hypocrites its unbelievable! Oh, u forgot to mention that we're mad promiscuos! And I woulda reminded u that ya'll got the highest HIV/AIDS infection rate in the world. Oh, and that yall girls getting banged left and right with the easiest of ease at the so-called "RE-UNION" yall currently having here in NYC!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by paddylo1(m): 3:33am On Jul 04, 2010
Lie of the Century! Now the world-wide, horribly-known, hard-to-understand Nigerian accent has on this day July 3rd, 2010, been place on the same level as the sweet sounding, sultry, and sexy French, Italian, Spanish, British, Greek and German accents, by none other than our resident "red-eyes".


P.S:Then again, she coulda been a Fat crack fiend! Yeah, that'll count!

u dolt. . .German,Greek,and British accents are anything but sexy. . .

Italian is blah. . .while u can keep the spanish,i dont really do Latinos like that

They get too fat once they get over 18. . .

Seriously though Naija accent is unique and sexy. . .i been told that on numerous occasions
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 3:36am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:

Nope. . Am a black guy with a unique accent(Not AA,Not carribean),so the chick fell for me

For Fl_gators to understand my analogy,she has to think of being with a black guy with a unique accent(Not AA,Not Caribbean,not Naija),hence French

Get it?. . .I guess dude was right,u really are brainless. . .


Sure! No need to explain ur sexu.ali.ty to me! Wut u like is wut u like. I aint the french dude, homie! I'm brainless? Brainless enough to know that u coulda easily used a "french-woman" as ur example! But, I guess I cant condemn how u decide to roll. Hey, its legal in Massachusetts and a few other states now, so, do u!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by paddylo1(m): 3:36am On Jul 04, 2010
@paddy lo

It depends on what kinda accent you got.

I grew up in lagos,went to Private school. . so i guess i got that smooth aje lagos accent. .

I dont know, I still think all naija accents are sexy. . ever heard a hausa chick speak?. . .Now thats hot
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 3:38am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:

u dolt. . .German,Greek,and British accents are anything but sexy. . .

Italian is blah. . .while u can keep the spanish,i dont really do Latinos like that

They get too fat once they get over 18. . .

Seriously though Naija accent is unique and sexy. . .i been told that on numerous occasions


True, I'll take that "I-sound-like- I'm-bout-to-fight-u" Nigerian accent over a sexy, dreamy, British, German, or Greek accent anyday!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by Nobody: 3:42am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:

I grew up in lagos,went to Private school. . so i guess i got that smooth aje lagos accent. .

I dont know, I still think all naija accents are sexy. . ever heard a hausa chick speak?. . .Now thats hot


Lagos accent? I cant tell a Yoruba accent different from other Yoruba accent, period.

But Yoruba accent sexy, period tongue
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by dayokanu(m): 3:44am On Jul 04, 2010
kk
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by paddylo1(m): 3:44am On Jul 04, 2010
True, I'll take that "I-sound-like- I'm-bout-to-fight-u" Nigerian accent over a British, German, or Greek accent anyday!

U can do whatever u like homie. . . .I see u are into snow bunnies

Am not into pale skin. . I like ma women like my Amala. . .Black. . .
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by paddylo1(m): 3:46am On Jul 04, 2010
Lagos accent? I cant tell a Yoruba accent different from other Yoruba accent, period.

But Yoruba accent sexy, period

Yea Yoruba accent is cool. . .am not yoruba though. . .
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by cold(m): 3:47am On Jul 04, 2010
bk/babe99:

True, I'll take that "I-sound-like- I'm-bout-to-fight-u" Nigerian accent over a sexy, dreamy, British, German, or Greek accent anyday!
Are you finally tired of crawlin the web for Ojukwu stories?Didn't think you'd hav tym for anythin else
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 5:51am On Jul 04, 2010
cold:

Are you finally tired of crawlin the web for Ojukwu stories?Didn't think you'd hav tym for anythin else

"SECURITY I NEED HELP THIS BIAFRAN COLD-STALKING. . . . . . !!!!"
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 5:52am On Jul 04, 2010
paddy_lo:

U can do whatever u like homie. . . .I see u are into snow bunnies

Am not into pale skin. . I like ma women like my Amala. . .Black. . .


Homie, I dont discriminate! I pro'lly fucnk more nIGERIAN gals than ya!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by One11: 5:56am On Jul 04, 2010
^^^Ignored. Nobody should reply him, sorry wink
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by Nobody: 6:12am On Jul 04, 2010
bk/babe99:

d. Oh, and that yall girls getting banged left and right with the easiest of ease at the so-called "RE-UNION" yall currently having here in NYC!
Sounds like a personal problem, which ofcourse is not mines to worry abt. Just wear condoms sha, i know you prolly went with no boxers on.


paddy_lo:

U can do whatever u like homie. . . .I see u are into snow bunnies

Am not into pale skin. . I like ma women like my Amala. . .Black. . .

correct, omo
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by amazonia(m): 9:46am On Jul 04, 2010
@naijaking1, At first glance it appears that the Dan Fodis were conducting the exchange. But a closer observation reveals that the UDFs are equally captives. Their lines is two, with little dept. The first two in the front , are standing behind the role of sitting captives. Look closer at their gazes, there is bewilderness in their contenance. BTW, do anybody have a date for the picture? sombering.It look recent considering the structure of the boat. Might be early 20th century to late 19th century.
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by naijamini(m): 10:31am On Jul 04, 2010
amazonia:

@naijaking1, At first glance it appears that the Dan Fodis were conducting the exchange. But a closer observation reveals that the UDFs are equally captives. Their lines is two, with little dept. The first two in the front , are standing behind the role of sitting captives. Look closer at their gazes, there is bewilderness in their contenance. BTW, do anybody have a date for the picture? sombering.It look recent considering the structure of the boat. Might be early 20th century to late 19th century.

It is from this site http://wysinger.homestead.com/mapofafricadiaspora3.html with the caption “Group of Slaves with Arab men” , Zanzibar, 1850-1890
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by naijamini(m): 8:48pm On Jul 04, 2010
@cap28

You make a number of important points, but I am afraid we might still be missing a well-rounded perspective on these issues

For a very long time now africans and african americans have deliberately been kept in the dark as to what really happened in those dark days of slavery, the white slave master was able to completely brainwash the african american into believing that africans were primitive savages and that way of thinking continues to date (see bk babe's comments) some educated african americans on the other hand are aware that whitey is still up to his old tricks of divide and conquer.  In the case of africans whitey used religion and western education to destroy our minds and our ability to think for ourselves, this is why to date the average african idolises and mimics the ways of white people.
Of course, these were explicit policies in the past. However, it is mainly implicit today, and there are caucasians fighting Africa's cause even more than our rulers. So I would avoid generalizations at this point in time. The word "whitey" is probably as racist as the word "nigger". I think the major responsibility now falls on African leaders many of who, though free, continue to play the role of slaves.

today we celebrate our "acheivements" by comparing ourselves to whites instead of forging our own unique destinies.
I don't think there is any problem comparing achievements in areas that are common to human development across the globe. Food, health, transportation, etc are universal needs and achievements in these areas should be compared with other peoples' achievements. Healthy competition is actually good. It is the wholesome adoption of other peoples underlying worldview that has damaged the African psyche - much of it forced. Whatever we borrow from abroad must be localized - that is exactly what they did, that is what the Chinese are currently doing without losing "themselves". The underlying factors behind the industrial revolution were borrowed and customized. Moreover, Africans achieved great feats in ancient times, comparable to, and perhaps greater than, civilizations elsewhere. We cannot isolate ourselves, but also must not lose ourselves.

It will take years of deprogramming for this to be rectified, our only hope now is future generations coming up (any person below the age of 18)  as i feel the current generation of blacks are a lost cause. 
I think if THE leader comes along we can go places in as little as 20 years, but I am not talking about the borrowed and visionless Vision 2020. They already used up half a decade preparing useless documents on that one!

Have you ever come across any historical account of the slave trade which was written by a white historian which accepts full responsibility for the atrocity which was the slave trade? of course not, instead what you hear are series of excuses - we did not invent it , they were practiicing it amongst themselves before we arrived, the arabs were enslaving them before we arrived etc but the truth is that no where on this planet have human beings been reduced to chattel in the way that black africans were by european slave traders. 

Many are definitely trying to avoid responsibility - you hear this even from people you expect to know better. There also remains large sections that maintain the view that we are supposed to be their slaves. However, there are also others who realize the evil of these events and are fighting our cause. The problem is that our leaders are not providing any basis for hope given the slave-mentality from which they act - swiss accounts for one. Abacha's sons are still being convicted for the crimes they commiteed with their father, but are already gearing up for political office! ibb is attempting to climb into the chair of Nigeria's presidency!

All i can say is it is time to wake up and understand that we (africans and african americans) are both victims of one of the most heinous systems invented by man - white supremacist capitalism, white supremacist capitalism is what caused the depletion of man power from africa, the plunder and pillage of the african continent, the degradaion and abuse of people of african descent in the diaspora and eventually the creation of the most powerful nation on earth - the united states of america, but all done at the expense of the black african man.  Has anything changed to date - i woudl say no - blacks all over the world continue to be exploited, degraded and abused wherever we go in the world, therefore I think its time for us to understand that we should forget about the antagonism and start working together, this was Marcus Garvey's message - the whites knew this and they cut him down before he could become too powerful, he was even denied entry into africa because the white colonialists thought he might instigate the overthrow of the white colonialists.
Yes, the struggle must continue, although I am not sure about the "white supremacist capitalism" characterization. The success of the industrial revolution certainly gave the caucasian race an air of invincibility that soon led to white supremacy, but capitalism itself, kept within the bounds where it works well, is the main means of generating immense wealth and national development. That is what China found out and has exploited to great advantage over the last few decades, while maintaining policitcal socialism.
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by cap28: 12:30am On Jul 05, 2010
naijamini:

@cap28

You make a number of important points, but I am afraid we might still be missing a well-rounded perspective on these issues
Of course, these were explicit policies in the past. However, it is mainly implicit today, and there are caucasians fighting Africa's cause even more than our rulers. So I would avoid generalizations at this point in time. The word "whitey" is probably as racist as the word "nigger". I think the major responsibility now falls on African leaders many of who, though free, continue to play the role of slaves.

Im afraid i beg to differ naijamini, first of all if a policy of exploitation that was explicit is now implicit how does that change things for africa's progress? 

If a man who used to tell you to your face you are not equal to him, now calls you nigger but this time under his breath does that mean that he thinks better of you?  this is the posiiton of the black man - in the past we were blatantly told to our faces that we were inferior, now what happens is that you have a smiling white man treating you with the utmost courtesy but going behind to cheat and exploit you, how is that progress?

Where are these whites that are fighting the african man's cause?  I hope you don't mean those fake white liberals as they are  even more racist than the right wing whites, they pretend to sympathise with the cause of black people but at the end of the day no white person jeopardises his position in order to assist blacks.  Whites know the consequences of such behaviour is complete ostracism  from the white community and very few are willing to place themselves in such an unfavourable position. White people know that they are in a privilged position - by virtue of their white skin they have access to better employment, housing, healthcare and education than blacks  and very few are willing to loose all those privileges, this is why you will find some who know what is going on  but chose to do and say nothing. 

There is no point looking to the current crop of african leaders that we have as they are western stooges, many of them have been assisted into power by way of western backed coup d'etats, they are subsequently armed and allowed to remain as life presidents in exchange for opening up our countries to wholesale pillage and plunder by these western vultures, a nigerian academic by the name of chinweizu Ibekwe describes them as black colonialists - these black colonialists are no different from their white predecessors - the only difference being that they are of the same race as the people that they abuse and exploit.  What we need is a complete cull of  these criminals, there is a need for them to be replaced with a new crop of fresh minds, who have not been tainted or brainwashed by western religion and education. 

I  don't think there is any problem comparing achievements in areas that are common to human development across the globe. Food, health, transportation, etc are universal needs and achievements in these areas should be compared with other peoples' achievements. Healthy competition is actually good. It is the wholesome adoption of other peoples underlying worldview that has damaged the African psyche - much of it forced. Whatever we borrow from abroad must be localized - that is exactly what they did, that is what the Chinese are currently doing without losing "themselves". The underlying factors behind the industrial revolution were borrowed and customized.

The problem is we have completely absorbed the white man's supposed civilisation without stopping to question what it has done to our own civilisation, our economies and political systems have been tailored to suit the demands of foreign imperialist powers, africa was hijacked and divided up amongst a group of european imperialists for their own economic and political benefit not for ours, now is the time for us to step back and question what it has done for us and where we are headed.

You mention China but remember China actually had a revolution in 1949 - there was a concerted effort on the part of the chinese people to eradicate every trace of western influence, it was only after the chinese had succeeded in defeating all forms of foreign influence that they were able to begin the economic, political and cultural reconstruction of  their nation, are we at that stage yet? I would say no, until we get to a point where we realise that our very survival is dependant on a complete overhaul of what is currently in place we will remain stagnant.

I agree with your statement about localising production of what we import, our only saviour is industrialisation - we cannot continue to import stuff that we are capable of producing locally, this is why we need to start with removing the current crop of leaders that we have, they are following economic policies set out by the world bank and IMF which stipulate that we whould continue down this suicidal path of being suppliers of raw materials to western nations, no advanced nation on this planet became advanced by relying solely on the exportaion of raw materials, if we continue down this path we are doomed!


Moreover, Africans achieved great feats in ancient times, comparable to, and perhaps greater than, civilizations elsewhere. We cannot isolate ourselves, but also must not lose ourselves.
I think if THE leader comes along we can go places in as little as 20 years, but I am not talking about the borrowed and visionless Vision 2020. They already used up half a decade preparing useless documents on that one!

I agree and we are still capable of acheiving even greater things than those accomplished by our ancestors of ancient egypt but we must accept that in order to surpass our ancestors we must acknowledge that many aspects of our current condition will have to change -  it will not be a painless transition, it took the Chinese 70 years to be where they are today, and this involved the loss of many lives and severe sacrifice and discipline, are we prepared to make those kind of sacrifices in order to save future generations from inheriting the ignominious legacy of second class citizenry that has become the lot of black people all over the world?

Many are definitely trying to avoid responsibility - you hear this even from people you expect to know better. There also remains large sections that maintain the view that we are supposed to be their slaves. However, there are also others who realize the evil of these events and are fighting our cause. The problem is that our leaders are not providing any basis for hope given the slave-mentality from which they act - swiss accounts for one. Abacha's sons are still being convicted for the crimes they commiteed with their father, but are already gearing up for political office! ibb is attempting to climb into the chair of Nigeria's presidency!

The black race is involved in a war, a psychological and physical war, the psychological war is being fought by way of brainwashing, the western media are using all possible means to make us feel ashamed of who we are, they bombard us daily with negative images of ourselves, they are covertly trying to make us hate ourselves and in many ways they are succeeding.

The physical war is being fought on various levels - the economic exploitation of africa by way of the IMF and world bank which has crippled and destroyed the economies of various african nations, the imposition of corrupt puppet leaders who work in collaboration with western countries to exploit and destroy their own nations, the sale of arms to african countries in order to wage war against revolutionary nationalist movements who try to get rid of these puppet leaders and finally but most controversially by way of biological warfare - the HIV AIDS virus which is aimed at providing a "final solution" to the problem of the black man - dont take my word for it read former national security adviser Henry Kissinger's memo - NSSM 200 written when he was US national security adviser in the 1970's (during the Nixon administration) and you will find out what the US's stance was and still is with regard to what is euphemistically referred to as "population control" of the third world. 

Yes, the struggle must continue, although I am not sure about the "white supremacist capitalism" characterization. The success of the industrial revolution certainly gave the caucasian race an air of invincibility that soon led to white supremacy, but capitalism itself, kept within the bounds where it works well, is the main means of generating immense wealth and national development. That is what China found out and has exploited to great advantage over the last few decades, while maintaining policitcal socialism.


My understanding of capitalism is that its main objective is the relentless pursuit of profit at any cost,  the beneficiaries of capitalism are not concerned about keeping it within certain limits they are concerned about making money and if making money means that some people will be losers in this process they see those losses as necessary evils, capitialism means that a business will close down a factory in an area causing mass unemployment simply because that business could make more money if it set up shop in a third world country where it can pay its workers starvation wages .  This is the whole basis of capitalism.  If you are talking about wealth generation please ask yourself this question - who are the people benefitting from the wealth generation?  I can tell you that it is not the ordinary worker on the street but the owners of these businesses, in america less than a fraction of 1% of the population of that country own 80% of the wealth of that country - that shoudl tell you that the wealth that you refer to is being enjoyed by a tiny elite, this tiny elite are the  people who run and own america, not the so called electorate.

I do not think a complete replication of capitalism as it currently obtains in nigeria is the answer, so i would agree with your statement that the chinese model of capitalism could be looked at as a good example.
Certain aspects of capitalism can work but not in its pure form, it must have a human face, in america and europe capitalism does not operate to the exclusion of certain aspects of socialism.  Here in the UK we have various welfare programmes aimed at providing a safety net for the most vulnerable people in society (although this is now in the process of being dismantled)

It is only in the third world that you find capitalism in its harsh unmodified form being imposed on the people which results in the kind of grim poverty and suffering that currently obtains in nigeria and other so called third world countries.
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by UcheUwadi(m): 8:07pm On Jul 05, 2010
@ bk/babe99

I may not normally post on Nairaland much, because I do not have the time to do so, but I can see from your post is that you are an Internet troll. You add nothing to a discussion, so please do me a favor and do not respond to me after this post.

My father is Igbo and my mother is from Baltimore. And I have always been able to be around both sides of the family to understand the prejudices that they have for each group. My Black American family members, and many blacks in America rather be called Black American because they have no attachment to Africa would say that Africans are "African booty scratchers." And my Nigerian side would say not to act like those "crazy akatas" and akatas are lazy. I heard the terms, but at the end of the day, this issue is overblown.
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by bkbabe99: 8:18pm On Jul 05, 2010
UcheUwadi_:

bk/babe99,

I may not normally post on Nairaland much, because I do not have the time to do so, but I can see from your post is that you are an Internet troll. You add nothing to a discussion, so please do me a favor and do not respond to me after this post.

My father is Igbo and my mother is from Baltimore. And I have always been able to be around both sides of the family to understand the prejudices that they have for each group. My Black American family members, and many blacks in America rather be called Black American because they have no attachment to Africa would say that Africans are "African booty scratchers." And my Nigerian side would say not to act like those "crazy akatas" and akatas are lazy. I heard the terms, but at the end of the day, this issue is overblown.




Lol. Typical Biafran spawn! For u we dont even need a DNA test! He tries to school me then in the same vein tries to "order" me around by telling me not to bother replying him; Negro Funxck you!!! And what was the point of the "bootie scratchers"history u tried to force down my freaking throat! Wait. . . HOW OLD ARE YOU? Cus itd be a shame if I'm bout to be drawn into a confrontation with a 12 yr old!
Re: Africa And African-americans: How Deep Is The Resentment? by UcheUwadi(m): 8:22pm On Jul 05, 2010
bk/babe99:


Lol. Typical Biafran spawn! For u we dont even need a DNA test! He tries to school me then in the same vein tries to "order" me around by telling me not to bother replying him; Negro Funxck you!!! And what was the point of the "bootie scratchers"history u tried to force down my freaking throat! Wait. . . HOW OLD ARE YOU? Cus itd be a shame if I'm bout to be drawn into a confrontation with a 12 yr old!

Biafra has come and go, so what in the world is your obsession with Biafra? Order you around? lol WTF? You are seriously trippin or you are on some expensive herbs.

I was simply stating how both Africans and Black Americans throw abuses. And since you are not a Black American, you cannot speak for us. So shut up and move on.

And I am old enough to know you are an illiterate fool.

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