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Christianity copied from ancient religions too.. Click on the link in my original post

I thought salvation is personal...I never knew it can now be inherited... Nothing we will not hear.

Op.You are very wrong.Christianity is not a religion you are born into.You must be born again before you can be saved.John 3.Being.born.into Christianity does not save you.Each person must personally encounter Jesus through salvation experience.

adegeye38:

Christianity is not a religion, its an experience, its not a practice, it is life itself, its you having a personal relationship with God and experiencing him in another dimension, its having prayers answered, encountrring the holy spirit and growing in God's light, thats y Christianity is special, its not theoretical, its real and it can best be experienced if you have given your life to Christ

ISLAM is not a religion, its an experience, its not a practice, it is life itself, its you having a personal relationship with ALLAH and experiencing him in another dimension, its having prayers answered, encountrring the holy spirit and growing in ALLAH's light, thats why ISLAM is special, its not theoretical, its real and it can best be experienced if you have given your life to MOHAMMAD.

How about that?

Hmm keep deceiving yourself Jesus peace be upon him never perish cristinanity and the hole Bible never be the word of God.
This video clarify u
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DknYI0h57lXM&ved=2ahUKEwjb8razxszeAhUtzYUKHUsJCm0QwqsBMAF6BAgIEAg&usg=AOvVaw103PqDKQ7t_jE9pkPmdgcB

I was looking for bible passages from you to justify your claim but saw non. Please, stop this erroneous message of yours,

Only God knows those who're really saved-not by religion

KyrianOkeke:
No doubt op, it's your faith in Christ that makes you a Christian, however, the faith in Christ you talk about has to be confirmed by works.

Do you fear God enough to desist from the things that don't please him? Are you walking in Christ's image in your day to day activities? Is there an explicit difference in lifestyle between you who's a Christian and people who are not?

The work is what proves You a Christian, not claim of faith that nobody sees

What work? Can you please read Gal 2:20, 21 how can grace and works work together? Please read Heb 10 very well and read over and over again until it's well understood.
If it's by work, are you telling me that you haven't sinned today to not go to hell?
Read 1John2:1, 2 as well.
Stop creating fear in people's hearts. God is loving and doesn't need any one to fear him.

adegeye38:

Your heading doesnt make aby sense, Jesus says no one comes to the father except through me, meaning without believing and confessing in the death and resurrection of jesus christ dere is no salvation

this is the same thing the op is saying. Everyone in christianity have believed and confessed that Jesus is the christ already .

and it doesn't matter wether u ar born in a Christian home or not.

says who?
Certainly not the bible or do you have any scripture to show for this your error?

Every body is an individual, no one can get saved for another person.

this one you have said is true, no one can get saved for another person, everyone have their rights to choose to be christian or not

And if you decide to live your life in sin, yoy lose d salvation

from your own invented doctrine, not the bible.
Contrary to that, the scripture affirms that we are justified by our faith, not by our works

KyrianOkeke:
No doubt op, it's your faith in Christ that makes you a Christian, however, the faith in Christ you talk about has to be confirmed by works.

lie,
The bible says we are justified by our faith not by our works

Do you fear God enough to desist from the things that don't please him? Are you walking in Christ's image in your day to day activities? Is there an explicit difference in lifestyle between you who's a Christian and people who are not?

The work is what proves You a Christian, not claim of faith that nobody sees

very true!
It proves to men who christians are, but not to God.
We are to please God for our eternal life not men.

No man can give us eternal life.

Only faith pleases God not works.

Without faith it is impossible to please God

almarthins:


This is heresy ...

christ preached what the jews considered heresy thats how he was crucified, so not all heresies are false

once saved is nt forever saved. You need constantly watch and pray. Jesus said, we should watch and pray. Backsliding is possible and dangerous, it can take many forms.

lie.
Go get your bible

hibrahim:





Once saved is forever saved is the doctrines of Satan.

lie from the pit of hell

The false pastors recently distorted and misrepresented some of the scriptures you quoted to achieve their evil agenda. And the result today is the lukewarm churches scattered all over tthe world, the kind of cchurch the Lord promised to spew out of his mouth.

lukewarm of what, explain in details

PrecisionFx:


If u are born into a Muslim family, You at forever saved too.

Next!!

Didcot:


My friend shut the fu ck up and stop preaching nonsense!
Odensin

you think being emotional will help you know the truth?
Dont start using your brain first?

Ihedinobi3:

You are exactly right that the only criterion for salvation is faith in Jesus Christ. However, it is also true that when one chooses to place their faith in Jesus Christ, they become born again and receive the righteousness of the Lord Jesus so that they become righteous in the eyes of God.

you are 100% correct sir.

Consequent upon that, the believer must begin to learn to know the Lord so that they can also imitate Him in behavior and attitude. That is sanctification. It is the product of true faith in the Lord.

very true, God bless you

femi4:
Wrong Heading. No one is save via physical birth, you need spiritual birth. Except a man is BORN AGAIN ...........your Father's, parents or family's faith cannot save you

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Who is doing the childbearing?
Are they not parents?

Therefore it will be difficult for a child who was brought up from a christian home leaves his home religion to go and join islam or any other religion.

This is the concept of salvation, dont mind what churches are saying they have never understood salvation to this point

sweetrace:


Being born into a Christian home can at best make you religious. True Christianity is a one on one relationship with Christ.

everyone born into a christian home whether they are religious or not were made to believe in christ by their parents thats the point of salvation.

Whoever believed is saved.

YAHREIGNS:
You need to define Christianity, Righteousness, Salvation and faith. You've used them in contradiction with each other.

the op did not define any of these talkless of using them in contradiction.

Anyway,christianity is a religion dont mind them.

It is the religion established on earth by Jesus christ and his apostles.

Righteousness can be seen in two ways, the way God views it which is quite different from the way men views it.

Men says if you do good that is righteousness but God only looks at faith, not the good you do.

As a matter of fact no one has ever in the history of mankind been good except christ.

guyla:

Christianity has its root in Judaism, yet in the days of Judaism Christ said to a Judaist "except a man be born again he can not see the kingdom of God" John 3:6
You must be born again, it's true we are not saved by works but by grace, yet he that names the name of the Lord must depart from iniquity, finally be you holy for the God we serve is holy
You are not totally right,

and you made a very valid points here.
Thanks

paxonel:
this is the same thing the op is saying. Everyone in christianity have believed and confessed that Jesus is the christ already .
says who?
Certainly not the bible or do you have any scripture to show for this your error?
this one you have said is true, no one can get saved for another person, everyone have their rights to choose to be christian or not
from your own invented doctrine, not the bible.
Contrary to that, the scripture affirms that we are justified by our faith, not by our works

By our faith in the finished works of Christ

paxonel:
this is the same thing the op is saying. Everyone in christianity have believed and confessed that Jesus is the christ already .
says who?
Certainly not the bible or do you have any scripture to show for this your error?
this one you have said is true, no one can get saved for another person, everyone have their rights to choose to be christian or not
from your own invented doctrine, not the bible.
Contrary to that, the scripture affirms that we are justified by our faith, not by our works

the bible says with our hearts we belive and with our mouth, we confess into salvation

musicwriter:


ISLAM is not a religion, its an experience, its not a practice, it is life itself, its you having a personal relationship with ALLAH and experiencing him in another dimension, its having prayers answered, encountrring the holy spirit and growing in ALLAH's light, thats why ISLAM is special, its not theoretical, its real and it can best be experienced if you have given your life to MOHAMMAD.

How about that?

Your level of ignorance is alarming

SonsOfLiverpool:
That's the new slang you Christians now say cos it sounds cool.

Oga, Christianity is a religion, like every other religion where a single type of books guide your action, tells you where to put your 10%, tells you what commandments to follow etc.

That is religion. Stop saying things because people say it.

Your level of ignorance is alarming, Christians dont live by commandments, the old israelites in the old testament were not Christians, they wer just pple who God chose, Christianity came after Christ died, and it comes by believing in the finished work of Christ, you have the holy spirit who you relate with, with is help you know the rigjt things to do and what not to do, you have a personal relationship wih God, its a strictly 100% spiritual experience, that manifests in the physical

tstx:
The Muslims think this too... Budhist too and so does every other major religion on earth... So who is fooling whom?

The way i see it.. This talk is just to get more followers..

Anywhere you dey so long as you are pure at heart... Nothing dey happen...

Meanwhile y'all might want to read the post below... 5 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions






Mr man you only say this because You were born into a Christian home... If you were brought into the world by an Alfa you wouldn't be here saying this....
... We are all victims of circumstances

I didnt become a Christian cos i was born into a Christian home, i became a Christian, when i actually experienced Christianity, a lot of Muslims, that were born into Christian homes or traditional homes do convert, and rarely would you see a Christian convert, there is a reason for dat, Christianity like i said, is a spiritual experience and can only be experience through faith in God and in Christ Jesus

paxonel:
1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Who is doing the childbearing?
Are they not parents?

Therefore it will be difficult for a child who was brought up from a christian home leaves his home religion to go and join islam or any other religion.

This is the concept of salvation, dont mind what churches are saying they have never understood salvation to this point

I m not an half Bible Christian that validate a point with just a scripture without backup scriptures.

Now, to understand 1Tim2:15..... you need to go back to 1Tim2:1. There, Paul was given them (man and woman) instruction on how to Worship.

V8 talked about how men should pray

V9-10 was about how women should dress to worship God

Verse 14 is very Important cos it revealed how the first woman sinned.

14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.


Now in verse 15, It was clear that the instruction was for women, the first woman, Eve was caused in Gen 3:16
“To the woman he said, ‘I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children.

So, Women would be saved from these pains IF......they continue in Love, Faith and holiness.

This is not about Salvation cos Man wasn't even Included. Qed

adegeye38:

Your level of ignorance is alarming, Christians dont live by commandments, the old israelites in the old testament were not Christians, they wer just pple who God chose, Christianity came after Christ died, and it comes by believing in the finished work of Christ, you have the holy spirit who you relate with, with is help you know the rigjt things to do and what not to do, you have a personal relationship wih God, its a strictly 100% spiritual experience, that manifests in the physical

Trash.

Next*

Thank God i have seen one christian who is interested in analysing scriptures, not like what our pastors are doing in church

femi4:
I m not an half Bible Christian that validate a point with just a scripture without backup scriptures.

Now, to understand 1Tim2:15..... you need to go back to 1Tim2:1. There, Paul was given them (man and woman) instruction on how to Worship.

V8 talked about how men should pray

V9-10 was about how women should dress to worship God

before i concluded that it was talking about salvation i have read it from the beginning and saw all these.

Verse 14 is very Important cos it revealed how the first woman sinned.

14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

first of all you have to understand that the moment the fact that adam and eve sinned was mentioned, it point to the fact that mankind sinned from the beginning and needed salvation. Therefore there is no way you can exclude salvation out of this scripture no matter how you are seeing the scripture

Now in verse 15, It was clear that the instruction was for women, the first woman, Eve was caused in Gen 3:16
“To the woman he said, ‘I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children.

So, Women would be saved from these pains IF......they continue in Love, Faith and holiness.

so, i will ask you questions, when you say love, faith and holy, what Faith was it talking about?
If it was referring to faith in christ are there not women today who have faith in christ who are still experiencing the pains of childbearing today?

Or have you ever heard in the history of mankind that there has been any woman who has not experienced pains again when she was giving birth to children by the blood of jesus ?
Because, this scripture you quoted has nothing to do with salvation i can tell you that
Gen 3:16
“To the woman he said, ‘I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children.

And scriptures made us to understand in

Romans 5:19 For as by one man's(Adam) disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one (Jesus christ) shall many be made righteous.

Which implies that christ has restored every losses of Adams fall, yet women(including believers) are still experiencing pains during childbearing.

Therefore, the Gen 3:16 has nothing to do with salvation but was part of the purnishment to Eve for disobedience.
And 1 tim 2:15 i quoted truly refers to salvation of Eve (invariably salvation of all mankind).

There are other scriptures which points that men are saved from childbearing i can show you

paxonel:
Thank God i have seen one christian who is interested in analysing scriptures, not like what our pastors are doing in church before i concluded that it was talking about salvation i have read it from the beginning and saw all these.
first of all you have to understand that the moment the fact that adam and eve sinned was mentioned, it point to the fact that mankind sinned from the beginning and needed salvation. Therefore there is no way you can exclude salvation out of this scripture no matter how you are seeing the scripture
so, i will ask you questions, when you say love, faith and holy, what Faith was it talking about?
If it was referring to faith in christ are there not women today who have faith in christ who are still experiencing the pains of childbearing today?

Or have you ever heard in the history of mankind that there has been any woman who has not experienced pains when she was giving birth to children due to the Gen 3:16 you quoted?

Gen 3:16
“To the woman he said, ‘I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children.

Because scriptures made us to understand in

Romans 5:19 For as by one man's(Adam) disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one (Jesus christ) shall many be made righteous.

Which implies that christ has restored every losses of Adams fall, yet women(including believers) are still experiencing pains during childbearing.

The scriptures doesn't contradict. Salvation is via the second/last Adam (Jesus)

The punishment on Adam and Eve still stand even after Salvation but a woman with holiness, love and faith shall be save from the portion allocated to women.

Even though he was the head of God's creation Adam failed. With his disobedience, he brought depravity on his whole family and to every descendent down through the ages. We inherited sin and death from old Adam. "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned . . . " (Romans 5:12; cf. 1 Cor. 15:22

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive" (I Corinthians 15:20).


In 1Tim2:15 Emphasis was on "The Woman" , mankind wasn't used. I rest my case!

femi4:
The scriptures doesn't contradict. Salvation is via the second/last Adam (Jesus)

The punishment on Adam and Eve still stand even after Salvation but a woman with holiness, love and faith shall be save from the portion allocated to women.

true

In 1Tim2:15 Emphasis was on "The Woman" , mankind wasn't used. I rest my case!

The woman was used because she first committed the sin, inspite of that she was saved through christ, thats the bottomline and that is grace for you

adegeye38:
the bible says with our hearts we belive and with our mouth, we confess into salvation

very true.

And when you read it from verse 1, it says i pray that israel should be saved.
That simply means that until the israelites abandon their judaism and join christianity (the religion of christ) they can never be saved.

Remember the jews(israelites) had the old covenant through abraham and that was the beginning of their religion judaism .

But christ had the new covenant which is christianity, therefore salvation is all about the faith

SonsOfLiverpool:
Trash.

Next*

The bibles says, the word of God is foolishness to those that are headed for destruction.

The bibles also says, a fool will say there is no God

adegeye38:

I didnt become a Christian cos i was born into a Christian home, i became a Christian, when i actually experienced Christianity, a lot of Muslims, that were born into Christian homes or traditional homes do convert, and rarely would you see a Christian convert, there is a reason for dat, Christianity like i said, is a spiritual experience and can only be experience through faith in God and in Christ Jesus

You mussed the whole point... Have u ever heard the saying. Train a child the way you want him to be so that when he grows he wont depart from jt.... You think the saying carries no weight.. Sure there are going to be some exceptions. People who convert to another religion.. But the exceptions are not even upto 2%