I hope you all saw the recent news about the boat that capsized off the coast of Libya. 15 persons were reported dead. The good side of the bad news however, is that there were several survivors, thanks to the rescue efforts by the Red Crescent workers. Kudos to them.

Well, the name Red Crescent and the kind of work they do, clearly manifest an Islamic parroting of the Red Cross International. First off, the organization's name shows that the founders believed that Red Cross is a Christian organization. Second, their name and work shows they believe Red Cross is a good idea but should not be allowed to seem to be a Christian stuff. Third, well, there is no third unless you include it.. But see my point....

For centuries, Red Cross served humanity irrespective of religious backgrounds. Whether knowingly or not, their name, symbol and work, has been proclaiming the cross of Christ, the red blood shed on that cross and the love exemplified in it all. Now, in an attempt to deny Christ, the founders of Red Crescent have acknowledged him by at least showing they are following a Christian lead. It is the same way their historians started to replace BC (Before Christ) with BCE (before the common era). Meanwhile, what makes this era common and the one before it uncommon? I'm sure no one can explain this well without mentioning Jesus Christ at some point which shows, everyone keeps acknowledging Jesus Christ as the centre and Lord of history. And... did I need to tell you that even the Qr'an is a plagiarism of the Bible?

Besides, I hate those pastors who are using Jesus for making money in deception. On the last day, many Muslims will be saved instead of those evil pastors. I am not religious but I am for the Truth. Thanks.

dumahi:
I hope you all saw the recent news about the boat that capsized off the coast of Libya. 15 persons were reported dead. The good side of the bad news however, is that there were several survivors, thanks to the rescue efforts by the Red Crescent workers. Kudos to them.

Well, the name Red Crescent and the kind of work they do, clearly manifest an Islamic parroting of the Red Cross International. First off, the organization's name shows that the founders believed that Red Cross is a Christian organization. Second, their name and work shows they believe Red Cross is a good idea but should not be allowed to seem to be a Christian stuff. Third, well, there is no third unless you include it.. But see my point....

For years, Red Cross served humanity irrespective of religious backgrounds. Whether knowingly or not, their name, symbol and work, has been proclaiming the cross of Christ, the red blood shed on that cross and the love exemplified in it all. Now, in an attempt to deny Christ, the founders of Red Crescent have acknowledged him by at least showing they are following a Christian lead. It is the same way their historians started to replace BC (Before Christ) with BCE (before the common era). Meanwhile, what makes this era common and the one before it uncommon? I'm sure no one can explain this well without mentioning Jesus Christ at some point which shows, everyone keeps acknowledging Jesus Christ as the centre of history. And... did I need to tell you that even the Qr'an is a plagiarism of the Bible?

Besides, I hate those pastors who are using Jesus for making money in deception. On the last day, many Muslims will be saved instead of those evil pastors. I am not religious but I am for the Truth. Thanks.

This one week me! @And... did I need to tell you that even the Qr'an is a plagiarism of the Bible?
Perhaps this is the reason why new edition of the bible appear almost every year!
Chai! Wetin concern Arabic with " eli-eli lema sabachtani"
Chai

qwertyboss:

This one week me! @And... did I need to tell you that even the Qr'an is a plagiarism of the Bible?
Perhaps this is the reason why new edition of the bible appear almost every year!
Chai! Wetin concern Arabic with " eli-eli lema sabachtani"
Chai

If the Koran is picked up and shaken free of the Bible, it'll flat and die.

Islam is alive becos of the deception that Christians and Muslims serve the same God. And, it's only the ignorant believe that the word 'God' is a personal name making allah Jehovah.

Islam is a shitty blood letting relation.

dumahi:

Besides, I hate those pastors who are using Jesus for making money in deception. On the last day, many Muslims will be saved instead of those evil pastors. I am not religious but I am for the Truth. Thanks.

So you are an atheist? What then gave you the right to talk abt religious matters?

What do understand to be Truth?

You said Muslims shall be saved and pastors will be damned. So, can you pls explain what Justification means?

What is Salvation? How are saved?

How are we redeemed, i mean, by what means?

If you know that someone will be saved then you shd know the above questions.

Anas09:


So you are an atheist? What then gave you the right to talk abt religious matters?

What do understand to be Truth?

You said Muslims shall be saved and pastors will be damned. So, can you pls explain what Justification means?

What is Salvation? How are saved?

How are we redeemed, i mean, by what means?

If you know that someone will be saved then you shd know the above questions.

See what Jesus himself said about justification and getting saved: Not those who call me Lord Lord will ENTER the Kingdom of God, but those who DO the will of my Father in Heaven. Else, talking about the last day, he showed that, that doing of his Father's will consists in showing practical love especially towards those in need by, for example, clothing the naked, feeding the hungry and visiting prisoners. It's not by a criminal taking the title of 'pastor' as a means of deceit. Let me get the Bible passages and share it now.

dumahi:


See what Jesus himself said about justification and getting saved: Not those who call me Lord Lord will ENTER the Kingdom of God, but those who DO the will of my Father in Heaven. Else, talking about the last day, he showed that, that doing of his Father's will consists in showing practical love especially towards those in need by, for example, clothing the naked, feeding the hungry and visiting prisoners. It's not by a criminal taking the title of 'pastor' as a means of deceit. Let me get the Bible passages and share it now.

Pls leave pastors as i didn't even consider them. My concern is with you talking abt Muslims getting saved at the appearing of Jesus. Hence i asked you;

1. What is redemption?
2. What is salvation?
3what is Justification?
4. By what means are we saved, redeemed, and Justified?

Do you think entering into eternity with Jesus depends on good works?
Answer these questions and leave the pastors to their master. You didn't call them, you can't judge them.

Anas09:

Pls leave pastors as i didn't even consider them. My concern is with you talking abt Muslims getting saved at the appearing of Jesus. Hence i asked you;

1. What is redemption?
2. What is salvation?
3what is Justification?
4. By what means are we saved, redeemed, and Justified?

Do you think entering into eternity with Jesus depends on good works?
Answer these questions and leave the pastors to their master. You didn't call them, you can't judge them.

Yes, according to Jesus (MT 7:21 and 25:40 and thereabouts) salvation depends on what you DO. And 'works' are nothing but what you DO. Otherwise, tell me what it is. Yes, the Bible is right to stress the role of faith in a person's salvation and the same Bible says that faith that is not expressed in work is dead - in other words, such faith does not exist. Works are faith made visible. Forget the lies pastors tell by misinterpreting the Bible to suit their selfishness.

dumahi:


Yes, according to Jesus (MT 7:21 and 25:40 and thereabouts) salvation depends on what you DO. And 'works' are nothing but what you DO. Otherwise, tell me what it is. Yes, the Bible is right to stress the role of faith in a person's salvation and the same Bible says that faith that is not expressed in work is dead - in other words, such faith does not exist. Works are faith made visible. Forget the lies pastors tell by misinterpreting the Bible to suit their selfishness.

To have faith in Jesus means to obey his commandment or to do the will of his Father in heaven.
To have faith in Jesus is to be born again and continue to obey his words .

How many muslims are born again by confessing their sin and believing that Jesus died for their sins ? Non !

How then do you think any muslim will be saved ?

dumahi:


Yes, according to Jesus (MT 7:21 and 25:40 and thereabouts) salvation depends on what you DO. And 'works' are nothing but what you DO. Otherwise, tell me what it is. Yes, the Bible is right to stress the role of faith in a person's salvation and the same Bible says that faith that is not expressed in work is dead - in other words, such faith does not exist. Works are faith made visible. Forget the lies pastors tell by misinterpreting the Bible to suit their selfishness.

So, this is how the muslims will get saved? Wonderful.

Justification is absolution. Although you did wrong, but you are absolved and let go as though you didn't do it.

Salvation is deliverance from a helpless state. A state you can't hell yourself out of, hence someone helps you out.

Redemption is purchasing back with a ransom that which was lost with blood.

Now, all of these is an act performed by a higher, more powerful individual. But this can not happen without a cry for help to that individual. It happens only when there's a turning towards that individual, acknowledging your state of helplessness, repenting of what got you into that state in the first place.

In this instance, Sin. We must accept that we have done wrong and can not help ourselves out of sin. hence call on Jesus who we must believe is the only saviour to save us. If this is done, then Salvation happens. A new life is given to you, then you begin to follow and do what the Bible teaches, then you'll enter into life at the appearing of Jesus.

Now, which of these does the muslims do to be saved at the appearing of Jesus as you claimed?

You are preaching a wrong gospel.

enilove:


To have faith in Jesus means to obey his commandment or to do the will of his Father in heaven.
To have faith in Jesus is to be born again and continue to obey his words .

How many muslims are born again by confessing their sin and believing that Jesus died for their sins ? Non !

How then do you think any muslim will be saved ?

Funny thing is, he is irreligious, yet he knows how the muslims can get saved by Jesus.

dumahi:
I hope you all saw the recent news about the boat that capsized off the coast of Libya. 15 persons were reported dead. The good side of the bad news however, is that there were several survivors, thanks to the rescue efforts by the Red Crescent workers. Kudos to them.

Well, the name Red Crescent and the kind of work they do, clearly manifest an Islamic parroting of the Red Cross International. First off, the organization's name shows that the founders believed that Red Cross is a Christian organization. Second, their name and work shows they believe Red Cross is a good idea but should not be allowed to seem to be a Christian stuff. Third, well, there is no third unless you include it.. But see my point....

For centuries, Red Cross served humanity irrespective of religious backgrounds. Whether knowingly or not, their name, symbol and work, has been proclaiming the cross of Christ, the red blood shed on that cross and the love exemplified in it all. Now, in an attempt to deny Christ, the founders of Red Crescent have acknowledged him by at least showing they are following a Christian lead. It is the same way their historians started to replace BC (Before Christ) with BCE (before the common era). Meanwhile, what makes this era common and the one before it uncommon? I'm sure no one can explain this well without mentioning Jesus Christ at some point which shows, everyone keeps acknowledging Jesus Christ as the centre and Lord of history. And... did I need to tell you that even the Qr'an is a plagiarism of the Bible?

Besides, I hate those pastors who are using Jesus for making money in deception. On the last day, many Muslims will be saved instead of those evil pastors. I am not religious but I am for the Truth. Thanks.

Red Crescent? Why not White Crescent? Do they know that the redness of the cross is as a result of the spilled blood of Jesus on it?

Muslims keep shouting their superiority over Christianity, yet copy everything Christians do.

Abt time they wait for Christians to copy one thing they do.

What can we copy? Let me see... Drinking Camel piss?

Anas09:

Funny thing is, he is irreligious, yet he knows how the muslims can get saved by Jesus.

You obviously think this point of yours is smart of you. If only you knew that Jesus and God belong far more to REALITY than to RELIGION. Your negativized mind makes you disregard all the beautiful things I wrote in favour of Christianity to hammer on one little paragraph that obviously accuses you surely because you are one of those so called Christians who duck other people's wives and claim they are covered by grace. Which grace? The grace of Jesus or another? Christ came and his greatest opposers were religious leaders. And the situation hasn't changed either: Christ is still here, and his greatest enemies are leaders and proponents of empty religious persuasions. What did you say about the Bible passages I cited where Jesus himself and Apostle James are seen saying in effect that DOING is central to ENTERING the Kingdom of God? No, you will not see that lest your conscience be pricked because of what you do with prick.

Let's hear others please.

dumahi:


You obviously think this point of yours is smart of you. If only you knew that Jesus and God belong far more to REALITY than to RELIGION. Your negativized mind makes you disregard all the beautiful things I wrote in favour of Christianity to hammer on one little paragraph that obviously accuses you surely because you are one of those so called Christians who duck other people's wives and claim they are covered by grace. Which grace? The grace of Jesus or another? Christ came and his greatest opposers were religious leaders. And the situation hasn't changed either: Christ is still here, and his greatest enemies are leaders and proponents of empty religious persuasions. What did you say about the Bible passages I cited where Jesus himself and Apostle James are seen saying in effect that DOING is central to ENTERING the Kingdom of God? No, you will not see that lest your conscience be pricked because of what you do with prick.

Did you read what you posted here?

The only reason i came into your thread is you claiming that Muslims will be saved when Jesus comes. I asked you questions which till now you cannot answer.

All you wrote here has no bearing at all.

Anyone who is not born again, meaning spiritually accepted the life which only Christ can give at repentance and confession, cannot see or enter into His Kingdom. Why not leave Pastors and face my point?


Good deeds without regeneration which comes 2ru repentance takes no one into the Kingdom of God.

I don't really have the time to engage you on this. But, it's obvious you are seeking room to vent on Pastors but threw in a detour.

Pls have fun fighting what you can't change.