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Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Amujale(m): 11:55pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: Btw are you’re ancestors different to mine? Records of Imhotep dates back around more than 46 centuries ago. All the famous Greek philosophers all studied under the stewardship of Imhotep. Plato, Aristotle, Socrates e.t.c Socrates is hailed as father of westeen philosophy; described as "the man who brought philosophy down from heaven to earth" ( Cicero 45BCE). In essence, Socrates was teaching the Greeks Imhoteps knowledge. As a huge fan of Socrates, i sometimes remember to thank him for introducing the Socratic methods that would later evolve into the 'Scientific Method' whereby investigations begin with hypothesis; yet, the knowledge he taught them in Greece was not the original works of Socrates but rather that of a Nubian KM.Tic scientist known as Imhotep. All the famous Greek mathematicians studied under the stewardship of Imhotep. True history records Imhotep as the father of orthodox medicine. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/3293164/How-Imhotep-gave-us-medicine.html [url]https://www.healio.com/pediatrics/news/blogs/%7B475f0fed-3f4c-4767-9cd7-0725a4e1034d%7D/james-h-brien-do/imhotep-the-real-father-of-medicine-an-iconoclastic-view[/url] https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19726401-600-the-strange-anatomy-of-the-brain/ source: Risse GB. West J Med. 1986 May; 144(5): 622-625. Imhotep and orthodox medicine--a reevaluation
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Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Daejoyoung: 12:28am On Dec 13, 2019 |
Amujale:True history says jesus existed. Note that even Socrates may not have existed, we don't have good enough evidence to suggest he did. Some think he is a fictitious character created by Plato and the likes but mainly Plato. This is to show you that people can assume anything and make up conspiracy theories. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Amujale(m): 12:33am On Dec 13, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: You are mistaken, anyone who studies Greek history knows that Socrates was a real person. It’s Jesus that’s the fictional character not Socrates. Furthermore I’m not here to defend Socrates but to make clear that Jesus is a fictitious character that the Romans invented in the first century CE. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Daejoyoung: 12:34am On Dec 13, 2019 |
Amujale:Who wrote Greek history and why do you trust them? Haven't you heard that history is written by the Victors? |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Amujale(m): 12:40am On Dec 13, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: I don’t trust Greek history at all, the only history I’m able to trust is one that is proven beyond reasonable doubt. And the only history that fits those requirements are the African ones. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Nobody: 7:10am On Dec 13, 2019 |
johnydon22: with all due respect friend, you and your preacher friend are two ignoramuses (@least about God, if not in other things). I blame you more for allowing a fellow man deceive you into thinking he's a preacher with just a suit and tie. If you want to learn about the creator, study creation in all the universe and you'll get an idea of what God is like. 1 Like |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by sonmvayina(m): 10:33am On Dec 13, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: I was only speaking from the Pont of view of the Jews, they claim the Torah (ie from Genesis to deuteronomy) is the divine laws of God and nobody whatsoever can change, alter or add to it.. Every other book in the old testament is just a foot note... Since everything in the new testament is against those laws, it is logical to conclude they are not of the jew or their God... |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by sonmvayina(m): 10:40am On Dec 13, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: But what most Christians preach is "Jesus died for our sins"... Is Jesus not supposed to be a human being... Or am I missing something? |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by sonmvayina(m): 10:48am On Dec 13, 2019 |
Lightangel65: God said if I sin, I should confess and forsake, he will forgive my sins and he will remember them no more.. 2nd Chronicles 7 :14, so of what purpose is Jesus to me?.. And God also commanded "thou shall have no other God BEFORE me, so of what purpose is Jesus to God?.. So what is it you are seeing that I am not? |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Lightangel65: 12:13pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
sonmvayina:Jesus is a breach between humans and God, remember the Bible says anything you ask in Jesus name would be answered. John 3:16 for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son and whosoever believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. You can't communicate with God except through Jesus. Jesus also said "I am the way the truth and the life and no one comets to the father except through me". And about what you said confess I your sins and he would forgive you. Your sins are only forgiven because Jesus died on the cross read the book of Matthew again. Bro pls you can't think of making heaven, when the only yardstick is through Jesus. If you really read your Bible you will know that every place God is mentioned you can't come to him except through Jesus. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Daejoyoung: 12:14pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
sonmvayina:Well Christians only say the old testament is a shadow of the new, but it's a continuation of the story of God. For example : Why did God tell Abraham to sacrifice isaac? what kind of a test is that? ln the new testament, this is explained. Who is the Angel of Yahweh in Exodus bearing Yahweh's very name. There was confusion about this very Angel in jewish mythology. Why does God need passover sacrifices at all? how does it benefit God. ln lsaiah 53, if you say it is a prophecy about Israel, then why is God striking and bruising the jews for the sins of the gentile nations? what sense does it make? why kill so many jews for the sins of gentiles. Whatever answer you give to this prophecy, just insert jesus also and you would see how it is also consistent with the jesus figure. The old testament is the story of lsrael and her God, the new testament is a continuation and a retelling of that story for not just jews but also gentiles. Because even gentiles needed the messaiah figure. A figure who has power over sickenesses, sufferings and even death. This is the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham, that in his seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. This is how the entire mythology of both old and new testament works. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Lightangel65: 12:25pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:Yes the new is a continuation of old not a shadow. But guess what it's not just a myth or a story, I know I might not be able to conventional with your current mindset. But when you expirence the holy spirit you will know God is real |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Nobody: 12:41pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
sonmvayina: Should I understand your position of Jesus as a mockery or out of anger, or do you mean what you are saying? If you mean it, your evidence will be appreciated. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Daejoyoung: 12:57pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
Lightangel65:How do you know the experience of Holy Spirit? |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Lightangel65: 12:59pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: You will know when you feel it. The moment you see everything differently |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Daejoyoung: 1:01pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
Lightangel65:Feelings? Do you accept that Holy Spirit also dwells in the chinese priests who practice meditation and feel enlightened? No where in the gospels did jesus say you would know Holy Spirit by your feelings. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by MuttleyLaff: 1:34pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:Yes, that is true and there is a bit more to that truth, and thats in the sense of that the Old Testament as a shadow of the New Testament, is the New Testament concealed, while the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed Daejoyoung:It is a test of obedience to give up what you most value to God Daejoyoung:the Angel of Yahweh is God, Yahweh Daejoyoung:Care to share with us what the confusion is or is all about? Daejoyoung:It served as a memorial to the Israelites for being saved from the destroyer when they were slaves in Egypt. It benefit God to later be the Passover Lamb for mankind Daejoyoung:lsaiah 53 is about the Suffering Servant, Jesus Daejoyoung:The promise to Abraham is a continuation and/or progression of the promise and prophecy to Eve in Genesis 3:15 |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by saxha: 5:36pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
Jesus is just another Nigga, he died like everybody else. 1 Like |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by kkins25(m): 5:39pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: The bolded interest me very well.. bearing in mind that the first cayse cannot manifest itself other than through the material world and immaterial world. To be more specific, the angels upon further studies - we discover they are actually manifestation of different properties of God. If you combine all the universe into one point then thats God. The particular verse in question somewhat induces this thought in me that the entity in of the burning bush is another manifestation of God who has no interest (atleast directly) in human affairs. The God thay was later worshipped as the bible paints it is definitely the angel of the burning bush. I do remember lord sarassin saying something similar. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Daejoyoung: 6:28pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: l asked why did God test Abraham and you said it is a test of obedience, but if God should ask you to sacrifice your son , your only son, would you pass that test? lnfact why should God ever have to test anyone? what is the purpose of the test? |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by sonmvayina(m): 7:16pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
JMAN05: Jesus was created as a mockery against God.. An insult... God is Almighty and all powerful, he is responsible for both good and evil... He created both light and darkness.. Everything he created is under his control.. If the devil even exist, he is not an exception... Jesus was created to fulfill Dan 7:25 |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by 1Sharon(f): 10:00pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
budaatum: No hell in the old testament !! |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by MuttleyLaff: 10:56pm On Dec 13, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Daejoyoung:Daejoyoung, the following is my addendum to the above quote of mine, taken from another thread. As it happened, Abraham wasnt repulsed, when asked by God to give up Isaac, lol. Abraham didnt finding it shocking that God should ask him to sacrifice his long sought after and only beloved son to God. Abraham didnt recoil back, he wasnt sickened, didnt feel disgusted that God should ask him to carry out something like that, lol. You already have an idea why, because I have hinted in my quote above. Yes, Abraham was familiar with child sacrifices, afterall he was a pagan, an idol worshipper before being called out of Ur, lol. Abraham whilst in Ur, would have witnessed neighbours, family members sacrifice their kids. Burnt offering of children is regarded as normal, lol. Abraham was familiar and used to the practice, so why not test Abraham with something that is an everyday, well-known familiar sight to him, lol Daejoyoung:God would find another and different way to test me Daejoyoung lol. It definitely wouldnt be asking me to sacrifice any of my kids, besides, we've gone past the chance to be asked to sacrifice our kids as burnt offering to God. Do you know why, it is because after that test with Abraham, God emphatically laid down the law that He is against the practice of offering children as sacrifice, lol Daejoyoung:Whats the proof that something will stand the test of time, except it is tested Daejoyoung lol. When in an unfamiliar environment, why do you test a chair first, before you park, drop, sit and sink your bum bom on it, lol, erhn? Why do you test your codes during programming Daejoyoung, lol? C'mon, now Daejoyoung, it is for the same reason and/or purpose, you subject your codes to testing nah, lol Daejoyoung, let me, a bit, be real with you. Oftentimes, from Adam to Abraham even up to Jesus and beyond, the purpose of a God test, isnt necessarily to show us up, not necessarily to expose someone as being bad and/or faulty, its not to show our weaknesses but its for our benefit, its about self-discovery, an opportunity to discover our strengths, the chance to peep and gain an insight into one's own character, lol. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by kkins25(m): 12:42am On Dec 14, 2019 |
1Sharon:yeah, but font forget the threats, he was so cruel he promised to bring hell to earth if the jews dared disobeyed him.. the entity Yahweh is not to be fuqed with at all at all.. better surmmon lucifer self |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by kkins25(m): 12:44am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:it is obvious its to make sure Abraham fears him more than he loves his son. Can you imagine the tyrant muttleylaff calls God of love 1 Like |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by MuttleyLaff: 6:02am On Dec 14, 2019 |
kkins25:It is obvious, it is oblivious to you, that this was a test of Abraham's faith and for him to have an opportunity to shine, to show how deep his love of God and trust in God is. You dont know warris going on, lol. Abraham willingness and/or preparedness earned him a mention, a place and/or position in the greatly desired or envied Hebrews chapter eleven "Hall of faith" or "Faith Hall of Fame" lol |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by GoodMuyis(m): 8:12am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Amujale: Are you serious about your claim? Historical information prove otherwise, i.e. Christian persecution |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by objectivechrist: 9:32am On Dec 14, 2019 |
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Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Amujale(m): 9:45am On Dec 14, 2019 |
GoodMuyis: What is the meaning of Christian persecution ? Christianity cannot make any claims about persecution because it’s a false conception. Rather than being persecuted, Christianity is the persecutor of true history ; their failed attempts to wipe out true history and as such murdering billions of people on the malicious pretext that their false and fabricated ideas was passed down to them from their God. The problem with that argument is evident in the malicious writings of the weapon of mass destruction known as the Christian bible. Christianity peddles a false representation of history. The points in the previous post is very clear. Jesus is a fictional character. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by Amujale(m): 9:48am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Jesus has done nothing, because Jesus isn’t real. |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by oaroloye(m): 10:03am On Dec 14, 2019 |
SHALOM! budaatum: I ALREADY ANSWERED JOZZY4'S CHALLENGE, BUT WAS COMPLETELY IGNORED, AS USUAL. That is because none of you want what Lord Yeshua has done for you. hahn: THAT IS WHAT LORD YESHUA'S DISCIPLES ACTUALLY SAID TO HIS FACE, THAT ONLY I SAY CAUSED HIS IMMEDIATE DEPARTURE TO HEAVEN! . ACTS 1:1-11. THE former Treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and Teach, 2. Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through The Holy Ghost had given Commandments unto the Apostles whom he had chosen: 3. To whom also he shewed himself alive after his Passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to The Kingdom of God: 4. And, being assembled together with them, Commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for The Promise of the Father, "Which," Saith he, "ye have heard of me. 5. "For John truly Baptized with Water; but ye shall be Baptized with The Holy Ghost not many days hence." 6. When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, "Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again The Kingdom to Israel?" 7. And he Said unto them, "It is not for you to know the Times or the Seasons, which the Father hath put in His Own Power. 8. "But ye shall receive Power, after that The Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the Earth." 9. And when he had Spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a Cloud received him out of their sight. 10. And while they looked stedfastly toward Heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11. Which also said, "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into Heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into Heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into Heaven." THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE SADDEST POINT OF LORD YESHUA'S ENTIRE LIFE! It was at that point that Lord Yeshua surely knew that he had FAILED. . LUKE 24:13-48. 13. And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem (about) threescore furlongs. 14. And they talked together of all those things which had happened. 15. And it came to pass, that, while they communed (together) and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. 16. But their eyes were holden that they should not know him. 17. And he Said unto them, "What manner of communications (are) these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?" 18. And the one of them whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, "Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass in these days?" 19. And he Said unto them, "What things?" And they said unto him, "Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a Prophet mighty in Deed and Word before God and all the people: 20. "And how the Chief Priests and our Rulers delivered him to be condemned to Death, and have Crucified him. 21. "But we trusted that it had been he which should have Redeemed Israel: and besides all this, to day is the Third Day since these things were. 22. "Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; 23. "And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a Vision of Angels, which said that he was alive. 24. "And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found (it) even so as the women had said: but him they saw not." 25. Then he Said unto them, "O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that The Prophets have Spoken: 26 "Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his Glory?" 27. And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, he expounded unto them in all the Scriptures concerning himself. 28. And they drew nigh unto unto the village whither they went: and he made as if he would have gone further. 29. But they constrained him , saying, "Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent." And he went in to tarry with them. 30. And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed (it), and brake, and gave to them. 31. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight. 32. And they said one to another, "Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us The Scriptures?" 33. And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the Eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, 34. Saying, "THE LORD IS RISEN INDEED, AND HATH APPEARED TO SIMON." 35. And they told what things (were done) in the way, and how he was known to them in breaking of bread. 36. And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and Saith unto them, "Peace (be) unto you." 37. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38. And he Said unto them, "Why are ye troubled? And why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39. "Behold my hands and feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." 40. And when he had thus Spoken, he shewed them (his) hands and (his) feet. 41. And while they believed not for joy, and wondered, he Said unto them, "Have ye any meat?" 42. And they gave him a piece of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43. And he took (it), and did eat before them. 44. And he Said unto them, "These (are) the Words which I Spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in The Law of Moses, and (in) The Prophets, and (in) The Psalms concerning me." 45. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand The Scriptures, 46. And Said unto them, "Thus it is written and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead The Third Day. 47. "And that Repentance and Remission of Sins should be preached in his Name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48. "And ye are Witnesses of these things. 49. "And, behold, I send The Promise of my Father upon you: until ye be endued with Power From On High." LORD YESHUA HAD SPENT THREE AND A HALF YEARS TEACHINGS THESE FOOLS THE MOST ADVANCED SPIRITUAL DOCTRINE IN THE HISTORY OF HISTORY! . GENESIS 1:26-31. 26. And God Said, "Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness: and let them have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over the Cattle, and over all the Earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the Earth." 27. So God created Man in His Own Image, in The Image of God created He him; male and female created He them. 28. And God Blessed them, and God Said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the Earth, and subdue It: and have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over every Living Thing that moveth upon the Earth." 29. And God Said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the Face of all the Earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30. And to every Beast of the Earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the Earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat:" and it was so. 31. And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was Very Good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. GOD CREATED MANKIND FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXERCISING DOMINION OVER ALL THE EARTH, AND OVER ALL OF ITS BEASTS AND COMPONENTS. Nothing Earthly takes precedence over Humanity. Nothing Earthly can be mightier than a Human. Humans are Commanded to feed differently from the Beasts. Beasts, which are inferior, can eat the greenery. Humans, who are superior, are to eat only those things that bear seeds. "Seed," in Aramaic, the language of the Israelites, also means Teaching. [Source: George Lamsa.] . DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6. ALL The Commandments Which I Command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which The LORD Sware unto your fathers. 2. And thou shalt remember all the Way which The LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep His Commandments, or no. 3. And He humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with Manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that He might make thee know that "MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY BREAD ONLY BUT BY EVERY (WORD) THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD DOTH MAN LIVE." 4. Thy raiment waxed not old upon thee, neither did thy foot swell, these forty years. 5. Thou shalt also consider in thine heart, "THAT, AS A MAN CHASTENETH HIS SON, SO THE LORD THY GOD CHASTENETH THEE." 6. Therefore thou shalt keep The Commandments of The LORD thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to fear Him. THE WORD OF GOD IS ALSO FOOD. Whereas everything was made from The Words of God, not everything is food for Humans. The Soul needs to be fed, as well as the Body. . EXODUS 20:1-7. AND God Spake all these Words, Saying, 2. "I (am) The LORD thy God, Which have brought thee out of The Land of Egypt, out of The House of Bondage. 3. "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me. 4. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness (of any thing) that (is) in the Earth beneath, or that (is) in the Water under the Earth: 5. "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I The LORD thy God (am) a Jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the third and fourth (generation) of them that Hate Me. 6. "And shewing Mercy unto thousands of them which Love Me, and Keep My Commandments. 7. "Thou shalt not take The Name of The LORD thy God in vain; for The LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh His Name in vain." AT AGE 13, ISRAELITES ARE DEDICATED TO GOD, (BAR/BAT MITZVAH,) AND MUST SPEND THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS ACQUIRING THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, IN ORDER TO BE QUALIFIED TO SERVE HIM FULLY, BY AGE 20. ISRAEL was a special nation, directly created by God to always serve Him, even while the rest of the World fell into Sin and Iniquity. God holds every Human accountable for the deliberate Sins of their Parents, their Grandparents, and their Great-Grandparents. The only "Innocent Infants" are those whose parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents have no iniquities their whole lives. "INIQUITIES" are DELIBERATELY-COMMITTED SINS; no ATONEMENT covers them. Forgiveness of INIQUITY is by God's Discretion. No one can oblige Him to do that. . DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9. 4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy might. 6. And these Words, which I Command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of Them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind Them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write Them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. EVERY HUMAN IS OBLIGED TO RECOGNIZE GOD, AND TO LOVE HIM TO THE MAXIMUM OF THEIR EVERY FACULTY. It does not matter whether someone told you any different. That is THE LAW OF GOD, and NOTHING will CHANGE That. . LUKE 7:19-23. 19. And John calling unto him two of his Disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, "Art thou he that should come? Or look we for another?" 20. When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, 'ART THOU HE THAT SHOULD COME? OR LOOK WE FOR ANOTHER?' 21. And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight. 22. Then Jesus answering said unto them, "Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the Blind See, the Lame Walk, the Lepers are Cleansed, the Deaf Hear, the Dead are Raised, to the Poor The Gospel is preached. 23. "And Blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me." THE ISRAELITES CREATED STUPID THEORIES ABOUT WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN, ONCE THE HaMISHIACH MANIFESTED. Lord Yeshua showed YOCHANNAN BAPTIST how foolish his inquiry was. It was really HEROD who wanted to know that. He surely had people listening in on everything Yochannan Baptist's visitors discussed with him. He would have wanted a Heads-Up, just in case Yochannan was plotting to take his head off! He knew him for a crude Barbarian, who did not appreciate his... hospitality. Yochannan's Disciples wanted to know, too, and "THE HOLY GHOST TOLD ME" wasn't cutting it. . LUKE 10:16-24. 16. "He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth Him that sent me." 17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, "Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us through thy Name." 18. And he Said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven. 19. "Behold, I give unto you Power to tread on Serpents and Scorpions, and over all the Power of the Enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." 20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your Names are written in Heaven." 21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and Said, "I thank Thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed Good in Thy Sight. 22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who The Son is, but The Father; and Who The Father is, but The Son, and he to whom The Son will reveal him." 23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and Said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see The Things that ye see: 24. "For I Tell you, 'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE, AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM; AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR, AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' " LORD YESHUA showed them that they were all idiots not to register the fact that what he was doing was far better than driving the Romans out of their country. LORD YESHUA EXERCISED DOMINION OVER THE EARTH, AND SUBDUED IT, SO THAT HE RESTORED THE BLIND, THE LAME, THE DEAF, THE DUMB, AND EVEN THE DEAD AND DEVIL-POSSESSED TO FULL DOMINION OVER THEIR OWN BODIES! He demonstrated that correct worship of Yahweh God gives His Followers Power over Matter, Energy, Space, Time, and Evil Spirits. But all they cared about was POLITICAL SELF-DETERMINATION! [To be Continued.] |
Re: What Did Jesus Do? by oaroloye(m): 11:20am On Dec 14, 2019 |
[Continued:] NONE of the Israelites cared about THAT: not even the ones he Healed. None of them volunteered to follow him to the cross, did they? Nobody believed that he could possibly come back from the Dead, did they? Once Lord Yeshua was dead, everyone believed that he could no longer "deliver" Israel. Lord Yeshua's "Disciples" therefore told him that if he didn't put POLITICAL AUTONOMY into the hands of the people who had had him killed and stood by and watched him be killed, THEN HE REALLY HADN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR ISRAEL! . JOHN 14:1-27. "LET not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2. "In my Father's House there are Mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. 3. "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4. "And whither I go ye know, and The Way ye know." 5. Thomas saith unto him, "Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know The Way?" 6. Jesus Saith unto him, "I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life: no man cometh unto The Father, but by me. 7. "If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know Him, and have seen Him." 8. Philip saith unto him, "Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us." 9. Jesus Saith unto him, "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen The Father; and how sayest thou then, 'SHEW US THE FATHER?' 10. "Believest thou not that I am in The Father, and The Father in me? The Words that I Speak unto you I Speak not of myself: but The Father that dwelleth in me, He doeth the Works. 11. "Believe me that I am in The Father, and The Father in me: or else believe me for the very Works' sake. 12. "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, 'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO; AND GREATER WORKS THAN THESE SHALL HE DO; BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER.' 13. "And whatsoever ye shall ask in my Name, that will I do, that The Father may be Glorified in The Son. 14. "If ye shall ask any thing in my Name, I will do it. 15. "If ye love me, keep my Commandments. 16. "And I will pray The Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; 17. "Even The Spirit of Truth; Whom the World cannot receive, because It seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18. "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19. "Yet a little while, and the World seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20. "At that Day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21. "He that hath my Commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." 22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, "Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the World?" 23. Jesus answered and Said unto him, "If a man love me, he will keep my Words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24. "He that loveth me not keepeth not my Sayings: and the Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's Which sent me. 25. "These things have I Spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26. "But The Comforter, Which is The Holy Ghost, Whom The Father will send in my Name, He shall Teach you all things, and bring all things to your Remembrance, whatsoever I have Said unto you. 27. "Peace I leave with you, my Peace I give unto you: not as the World giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." MIRACLE-WORKERS ARE A DIME-A-DOZEN IN MANY RELIGIONS. A Miracle-Worker who passes on his same Power to mere BELIEVERS-ON-HIM is UNHEARD-OF! The Power a Keeper of The Law aspires to are these: . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. What Lord Yeshua did was show his followers how to complete that journey, and attain EVERLASTING LIFE- IF WE REALLY WANT IT. Lord Yeshua's Disciples didn't want EVERLASTING LIFE: they wanted to HATE PEOPLE and for no good reasons. They hated THE ROMANS, and would rather see them DEAD than to LIVE ETERNALLY, and Ascend into Heaven and be with Lord Yeshua. They hated their FELLOW ISRAELITES- and preferred to DIE, and go to HELL, rather than see them become their superiors in The Kingdom of Heaven. They hated WE GENTILES, and preferred to DIE . MATTHEW 25:13-46. 13. "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the Day nor the Hour wherein The Son of Man cometh. 14. "For The Kingdom of Heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. 15. "And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. 16. "Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. 17. "And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. 18. "But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. 19. "After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. 20. "And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, 'LORD, THOU DELIVEREDST UNTO ME FIVE TALENTS: BEHOLD, I HAVE GAINED BESIDE THEM FIVE TALENTS MORE.' 21. "His lord said unto him, 'WELL DONE, THOU GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT: THOU HAST BEEN FAITHFUL OVER A FEW THINGS, I WILL MAKE THEE RULER OVER MANY THINGS: ENTER THOU INTO THE JOY OF THY LORD.' 22. "He also that had received two talents came and said, 'LORD, THOU DELIVEREDST UNTO ME TWO TALENTS: BEHOLD, I HAVE GAINED TWO OTHER TALENTS BESIDE THEM.' 23. "His lord said unto him, 'WELL DONE, GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT; THOU HAST BEEN FAITHFUL OVER A FEW THINGS, I WILL MAKE THEE RULER OVER MANY THINGS: ENTER THOU INTO THE JOY OF THY LORD.' 24. "Then he which had received the one talent came and said, 'LORD, I KNEW THEE THAT THOU ART AN HARD MAN, REAPING WHERE THOU HAST NOT SOWN, AND GATHERING WHERE THOU HAST NOT STRAWED: 25. AND I WAS AFRAID, AND WENT AND HID THY TALENT IN THE EARTH: LO, THERE THOU HAST THAT IS THINE.' 26. "His lord answered and said unto him, 'THOU WICKED AND SLOTHFUL SERVANT, THOU KNEWEST THAT I REAP WHERE I SOWED NOT, AND GATHER WHERE I HAVE NOT STRAWED: 27. 'THOU OUGHTEST THEREFORE TO HAVE PUT MY MONEY TO THE EXCHANGERS, AND THEN AT MY COMING I SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED MINE OWN WITH USURY. 28. 'TAKE THEREFORE THE TALENT FROM HIM, AND GIVE IT UNTO HIM WHICH HATH TEN TALENTS. 29. 'FOR UNTO EVERY ONE THAT HATH SHALL BE GIVEN, AND HE SHALL HAVE ABUNDANCE: BUT FROM HIM THAT HATH NOT SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY EVEN THAT WHICH HE HATH. 30. 'AND CAST YE THE UNPROFITABLE SERVANT INTO OUTER DARKNESS: THERE SHALL BE WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.' 31. "When The Son of Man shall come in his Glory, and all the Holy Angels with him, then shall he sit upon The Throne of his Glory: 32. "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33. "And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34. "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, 'COME, YE BLESSED OF MY FATHER, INHERIT THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD: 35. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED, AND YE GAVE ME MEAT: I WAS THIRSTY, AND YE GAVE ME DRINK: I WAS A STRANGER, AND YE TOOK ME IN: 36. 'NAKED, AND YE CLOTHED ME: I WAS SICK, AND YE VISITED ME: I WAS IN PRISON, AND YE CAME UNTO ME.' 37. Then shall the Righteous answer him, saying, 'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE AN HUNGRED, AND FED THEE? OR THIRSTY, AND GAVE THEE DRINK? 38. 'WHEN SAW WE THEE A STRANGER, AND TOOK THEE IN? OR NAKED, AND CLOTHED THEE? 39. 'OR WHEN SAW WE THEE SICK, OR IN PRISON, AND CAME UNTO THEE?' 40. "And the King shall answer and say unto them, 'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, "INASMUCH AS YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME." ' 41. "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, 'DEPART FROM ME, YE CURSED, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS: 42. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED, AND YE GAVE ME NO MEAT: I WAS THIRSTY, AND YE GAVE ME NO DRINK: 43. 'I WAS A STRANGER, AND YE TOOK ME NOT IN: NAKED, AND YE CLOTHED ME NOT: SICK, AND IN PRISON, AND YE VISITED ME NOT.' 44. "Then shall they also answer him, saying, 'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE AN HUNGRED, OR ATHIRST, OR A STRANGER, OR NAKED, OR SICK, OR IN PRISON, AND DID NOT MINISTER UNTO THEE?' 45. "Then shall he answer them, saying, 'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, "INASMUCH AS YE DID IT NOT TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE, YE DID IT NOT TO ME." ' 46. "And these shall go away into Everlasting Punishment: but the Righteous into Life Eternal." ANYONE WITH COMMONSENSE WOULD KNOW THAT EVEN IF ALL HUMANS LIVED FOR EVER, THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE UNRIGHTEOUS CAN BE SUCH THAT THEY MIGHT PLEAD EVERY MINUTE FOR FINAL DEATH! . JOHN 8:28-53. 28. Then Said Jesus unto them, "When ye have lifted up The Son of Man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath Taught me, I Speak these things. 29. "And He that sent me is with me: The Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him." 30. As he Spake these Words, many believed on him. 31. Then Said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, "If ye continue in my Word, then are ye my Disciples indeed; 32. "And ye shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall make you Free." 33. They answered him, "We be Abraham's Seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, 'YE SHALL BE MADE FREE?' " 34. Jesus answered them, "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN IS THE SERVANT OF SIN. 35. 'AND THE SERVANT ABIDETH NOT IN THE HOUSE FOR EVER: BUT THE SON ABIDETH EVER.' 36. "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37. "I know that ye are Abraham's Seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my Word hath no place in you. 38. "I Speak That Which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your Father." 39. They answered and said unto him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus Saith unto them, "If ye were Abraham's Children, ye would do the Works of Abraham. 40. "But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you The Truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41. "Ye do the deeds of your father." Then said they to him, "We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God." 42. Jesus Said unto them, "If God were your Father, ye would love me for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me. 43. "Why do ye not understand my Speech? Even because ye cannot hear my Word. 44. "Ye are of your Father The Devil, and the lusts of your Father ye will do. He was a Murderer From The Beginning, and abode not in The Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the Father of It. 45. "And because I Tell you The Truth, ye believe me not. 46. "Which of you convinceth me of Sin? And if I say The Truth, why do ye not believe me? 47. "He that is of God heareth God's Words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God." 48. Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, "Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a Devil?" 49. Jesus answered, "I have not a Devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. 50. "And I seek not mine own Glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. 51. "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, 'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING, HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.' " 52. Then said the Jews unto him, "Now we know that thou hast a Devil. Abraham is dead, and the Prophets; and thou sayest, 'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING, HE SHALL NEVER TASTE OF DEATH.' 53. "Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the Prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?" IF YOU WERE HUMBLE ENOUGH TO DO WHAT LORD YESHUA SAID, YOUR MIND WOULD HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL BUILDING-BLOCKS OF PERCEPTION TO PERCEIVE AND UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH. Would you want EVERLASTING LIFE, if you had to live as a BEGGAR, every day? Would you want EVERLASTING LIFE, if you were being TORTURED every day? Would you want EVERLASTING LIFE, if you were a MANACLED PRISONER every day? If you had the experience of being an ANGEL OF MERCY to people who needed you, you would know to FEAR living ETERNITY like that. THE DEVILS feed off the Life Force of those who have failed to use it to serve Gods Fundamental Purposes- which makes it inaccessible to them. If we survive our First Death- which is only possible with TOTAL RECALL- but are not protected by Superior Power- THE DEVILS WILL FEED ON US. If we fail the TOTAL RECALL Test- given to every creature that dies- our Soul Body will be destroyed, when the Devils feast on its remains. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] Anyone with FULL ESP can easily perceive that. At the very least, Lord Yeshua has alerted us to what we need to do to avoid that Dark Fate. It is the height of Ignorance and Stupidity to deny that Lord Yeshua did anything for us! WHEN LORD YESHUA COMES, HE EXPECTS HIS DISCIPLES TO HAVE DEVELOPED THE TEN TALENTS. Those who developed nothing will be expelled into Outer Darkness. Those who cultivate and develop The Talents are supposed to do so by using them to Feed, Water, Clothe, Heal, and Visit them with what they have. . THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE. 1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS; 5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING. [SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard.] Whatever you have on any level can be used to support fellow Brethren, but the Reward for support is proportional to the effort expended in said support. . DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16. 13. Thou shalt not have in thy bag divers weights, a great and a small. 14. Thou shalt not have in thine house divers measures, a great and a small. 15. But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have: that thy days may be lengthened in the Land which The LORD thy God giveth thee. 16. For all that do such things, and all that do unrighteously, are an abomination unto the LORD thy God. . MATTHEW 7:1-6. “JUDGE not, that ye be not judged. 2. "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3. "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, 'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE OUT OF THINE EYE;' and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." UNJUST PEOPLE ARE STRANGELY MYSTIFIED THAT GOD DOES NOT RESPOND TO ATTEND THEM FASTER THAN THEY RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF OTHERS! They actually expect God to treat them better than they have treated His Servants. For instance, that the English loudmouth Atheist, RICHARD DAWKINS, the one who told his ilk not to debate with Theists in order to "DENY THEM THE OXYGEN OF CREDIBILITY," then wonders why God does not descend from Heaven to manifest before him, like one of his school pupils, explaining why they should not be expelled for being late to submit their Assignment! You are supposed to have answered all your silly questions about God during your adolescent years, and are none of you now anywhere near to ADULTS! Lord Yeshua delivered us from DEATH ITSELF- yet you all bumble and mumble as people who cannot read and write with any depth of understanding at all! Everything you think you know about The Gospel is WRONG. A Christian has no business with Death. [Concluded.] |
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